 Alrighty, good morning to you. You are still watching Hashtag Hawaii in the morning and you're hanging out with me, Brian Sakua. And on this segment, Hashtag MCM, we are all about great conversation, lots of fun and laughter. In just a bit, we are going to delve into an interesting conversation about Nairobi. Okay, Nairobi. You know, Nairobi is just unique. And like I said before, we should continue making movies about the city. And on that note, we had asked you a question on our social media platform, Pali, Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. Tutor called me, Ulisa. Question 2. Name Tagani Nairobi Uliishi. Now, who is the Rudy? How to keep your number for free? I'm going to ask you, where are your family members? Invite your aunties, your sisters, your cousins. Who do you wish for free? Who is he? Who is your daughter? Who is your father? Who is your father? That's the question. Name Tagani Nairobi Uliishi. Now, who is Rudy? How to keep your number for free? Okay. That's the question. And I'd love to hear your feedback on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. Combokani Y254 channel. Instagram Y254 underscore channel. Minds is at Brian Sakwa 101. Now, back to the conversation of the day still on Nairobi Chronicles. We are just going to delve into an interesting conversation about Nairobi. What are some of the attributes of inhabitants of this city? What are some of the features of Nairobi? What are the expectations of the inhabitants of the city? And then, what is the design of Nairobi? But you know Nairobi in itself is a hall. They say it's a big bedroom. Is it one small bedroom or a big bedroom? I'll leave that assignment to you to decide. So, we are going to talk about that in just a bit. And joining me right about now is a very powerful gentleman. He's going to actually be one of the participants and contributors of this conversation. Good morning. Welcome back Karibusana brother. Good morning. Thank you. How was the election? How did it take you? It was awesome and peaceful. Thank God. Did your candidate win? Okay, somehow. Somehow, somehow. But anyway, it's a story for another day. Back to the conversation of the day, but let me ask you. I think Nairobi was the issue at that time. You said, where are you? Where are you? Where are you? Where are you? Some parts to the same as the old. Some parts to the Cibra, the Cuezi. Bono. Bono. We're going to experience it because it's a very special area. We're going to be able to say, Hey, I'm Cibra. Okay, so the Cibra, okay, I've been there. And the story in hygiene and all that. It's just pathetic, by the way. And it has gone over years. No change in anything or anything. Then I want to ask you about the crimes. What they talk about. Those in that direct experience. Yeah, but can feel it. Yeah. Okay. Speaking of Cibra, Some of us are from a different country, some of us are from a different country, and we're not from Nairobi. And we had expectations. But then, depending on wherever village you come from, wherever up-country you're from, If you go to Nairobi, you will have expectations. If you go to Nairobi, you will have a good life and a job. Yeah, by the way, let me say that's a challenge. It's a challenge. Just live along the story in Nairobi. Easy Nairobi. Up on campus. In a YouTuber. Hey! Then going back home, people are like, they really expect a lot from you. And your personal life is just another city. Because Nairobi is at all the capital city. But then at personal life, to go in different places. Experiencing different lifestyles, doing different hustles and stuff. So, it's been a long time since I came here. These people expect me to come here and invest. You really invested and now you need to give back to the society. So, the expectation is really so high. That's true. And speaking of expectations. Especially when you're a student. For example, when you're a student. You have a campus. And you expect to have a good life. You will have a good job. You will have a good life. You will have a good money. You will have a good life. You will have a good campus. You will have a good responsibility. The rest is up to you. You will have a good life. Some people don't have a good life. But, they say it's just another bedroom in itself. I'm not sure if you can see it. There are challenges. Maybe, you can say, I'm a student in Nairobi. I'm not sure if I'm under any pressure. From your experience, especially when I'm a student. I'm in general too. Okay. This notion that when you're a student, you're broke, you go home. And you're like, by then I'm broke. I need some amount from this idea. It will be very hard for you. This person has an idea. And you'll be like, ah, I'm broke in Nairobi. How? And they expect to really have money. So, yes, like, if you're a student, you'll have to pay for it. But, if you're a student in Nairobi, you'll have to pay for it. In two weeks, you'll have to pay for it. You'll have to pay for it. These 200 bucks cannot even take you for a day. So, it's really hard. It's really hard for that to mean more. So, the boy child, they'll say, hey, dem, the girl child, and they'll say, hey, you need that stuff. But the boy child, hey, you really need to fight for your life. Yeah. Yeah. Now, for example, if you compare dem, I came after Job and boy child. Some of them, if you're a student, and then boy child, you'll have to pay for it. Do you think it's a very common factor in Nairobi, especially when it comes to job hunting? Because that's when you start working on your own. Yeah, yeah. By the way, this thing I really used to write in Ninshabaq in primary school. I started working on my own. But knowing this thing was really true. So, like, when you're at school, when you're in Nairobi, you start working on your own. You are there, automatically you're going to find it. That's what the mentality is. But then, you'll have to pay for the girl child. By the way, you'll have to pay for the girl child to have the opportunity to, on its own. They'll want to face challenges. But then, it is something, it's, to some point it's an advantage despite the several challenges you want to face. So, when you get up, when you get up, you'll have the same interview as them. When you get up, you'll have 50-50. Yeah, the lady, the lady, most probably, 90% of me will have to pay for that thing ahead of you. In case there's one opportunity, you'll have to pay for that. Because when I believe, when I was working on my own, I started working on my own. The lady said, I'll pay for that. She said, oh, I'll pay for that. So, the lady will have some brains, automatically she'll get it. Interesting, interesting opinions right there. Now, there's a way that you can stay in Nairobi for long. Basically, for people who are not born in Nairobi. I was born in Nairobi anyways. Just kidding, anyways. But, you know, you can stay in Nairobi for so long, you'll have to be so absorbed into the culture if you're going to have a lot of kids who live in Nairobi, like a wife in Nairobi and husband, the eve between sisters, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're absorbed into the culture, you get to actually, I want to say, you get down with the program, you learn the music, you get to be inspired by Nairobi, but the way you speak in a change, you talk about what you did before and especially, was it last year and do you remember what you did last year? Last year Last year, So, I was told that they were men with the same gender, so they were brides of the same gender. And I was told that they were looking at you like, ''Hey! So, are you a man with the same gender?'' Okay, let me start. I see that at the time you got home, and you were already married, and then when I got home, you ended up with another man. Yeah, he's just telling me that this person has their simulation. One of the feelings is to change. So it's not like you're changing, you're going to be like Nairobi. Yeah, by the way. Yeah, so I think that the main thing Nairobi has to change is the adventure. You have a home, you have a strict parent and now you have freedom. And you're like, I've never tried this. How does it feel? How does it feel hanging out with the friends? You have a home, you have a home 7, 6, 5. How does it feel to be late? To be late with friends, just hanging out and all that. Then you have a home, you're trying to adapt and these people are seeing you as a lost ship. Yeah. And then you have to make a dread. You have to change. You have to keep it TV. You have to wear a mask. You have to wear a mask and then you're dead. Yeah, they are really superstitious. And you have a very high level of superstition. And anything you have to say, they are not the main thing. They are the head of the ring. They are the main thing. They preach to you. These people preach for you. And anything to them has to be signed. Spiritual background, in anything you do. The lifestyle. Anything you have to have spiritual background. So they have to relate it to something. something. This is very bad. You don't need to do this. They are really always against the lifestyle, the fashion and all that. So fashion to them is some evil. Is it? Nileminaat. Nileminaat. Yeah, umekwam tumbaya. Yeah, they say, yeah. So there's some character who want to attach to the lifestyle here in Nairobi, okay, in the home. Speaking of speaking of speaking of that. Yeah, in a shape of your story. Can you tell us some of the common characteristics outside Nairobi? And I'm like, you come back, you're not doing too well. Me, I'm just a child. It is, it is. OK, me personally, before I was a kid, since I was a child, my mom raised me in a family where we were just known for respect. We were two years old. So me, that one I took, I took it as a thing every time I came by, I have to say thank you. Any time, I didn't even know. So coming back to Nairobi, I was like, I'm going to meet a client, I'm going to write a letter, the expectations are so low and then the price is so high. But I'm always a very shy person. They come in and say, but I'm really shy. So even talking to myself, I'm like, I'm not shy, I'm just shy. What I say, I'm shy. Another thing, most people, I'm like, hey bro, some of them are shy, so I punch them and they're happy. They're happy. Yeah, I'm shy. So I'm like, I'm just giving it all heartedly. Because I'm not shy. Some things are really known, like we're really known for them. For them, most of the time in Nairobi. Discussing, some of them are shy. And the relationship we're in is designed for them to be fair to me. And then they'll say, hey babe, you know I'm a kufa, so I'm really shy. Yeah, by the way, it's always so rampant, but it's so easy. The rest of the time, I'm like, I'm really shy. I'm not like, I'm really shy. But you're young, right? I'm like, I'm really shy. Okay, the thing is, it's so easy. The truth is, I'm really shy. I have good things in my setup. Like, I don't know what to do with my setup. Like, being good... I'm not like, I'm really shy. Yeah, being good in Nairobi, I don't know what to do with my setup. Why? Because to marry that lane. That trust. Yeah, that trust in me, I don't know what to do with anybody. You can't trust anybody because I'm like, hey, I don't know what to do with my setup. Why is she so good to me? Why is she so good to me? Sometimes the intention is so pure. But then from experience, you know, it's not because you don't know what to do with the setup. I don't know why... I don't know what to call her. Oh, she's like, I'm like, I don't know what to do with my setup. I don't know what to do with my setup. That trust in me, that's my setup. I don't know. And then there's this design in security. They're trying to make people believe they're going through the street. You're watching who's working behind you, sideways, left, right, and so on. I had a degree with you on that one. I was a fan of the street design. As much as you're a tambourine, but you're a shaker and a gov. You're a shaker and a gov. You're a shaker and a gov. You're a gov. You're a shaker and a gov. You're a gov. But you're like, no, no, no. You're a gov. You're a gov. You're a gov. Big people... If you're a gov. You're a gov. You're going to the Nairobi, and if you go there, you'll get a heartache. If you go to Nairobi, I expect to see youSure. I'm willing to drink and drink. So these people, number one, betrayal. Betrayal leads on it. Betrayal, a laugh of past experience. Once bitten by a shy. True. So, if you were to hit a key, you were like, I'll never want to pass through this again. Yeah. So, you just be careful, you're protective, and you overreact in everything. Yeah. Kila Kiti Tu, I told you, I told you to set up. You'll get hit, and you'll be in the house. Yeah. I'm only bitten by a fujia. Yeah, I'm bitten by a fujia. I'm going to kick you out of the house. I'm going to pick you up and you'll be like, Hey, hey, hey, hey. You're after my money. And my bag. Yeah, so, I hit a two. And security ain't equal to like, we can't run from it. But, Nukul, it's really good to be, to be so careful. Yeah. Because you never know. But do you think we are over-careful? Okay, we just tend to be. I mean, we're just insecure. Is it being over-careful or to go too insecure? To go insecure. To go insecure. Your past experiences. Yeah. Kenyans are so careless. Yeah. That's it. We are so careless. So, we're just insecure. And that moment, we are not carried away. Yeah. We don't feel, ah, I need really to take care of this. Then on the part of it, it's important we lose them. V2 is really important. And you have to protect them. We really hold on to them. Yeah. Like, I'm not going to let it go better then. It happens because these people daily are developing it. Yeah. A different way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, Is it, is this thing, is it, was it created? Is it a lifestyle? Is it a facade? You know like, in a, in a, when you say changes, you change. Is it a culture or what do you think happened? Okay, Is it from kaufen, and I'm changing. Allow me, allow me refer to a book! Yeah. This, Matthew 12th 34th. Matthew 12th 34th! 34. They had the most peaks. He was the one who made this thing. He played the background. Now then, when we talk about something so much, it comes to work. Okay, in Nairobi, it was before I officially had a big bedroom. It wasn't. It wasn't a bedroom. Yeah, it was a sitting room or a stadium. It was just some kitchen. It was a kitchen. It was a bed seat. It wasn't a bed seat. It wasn't a tiny bed seat. People used to talk about this. They used to talk about boys. They used to talk about boys. So, a lady had an experience. I told her, she was a betrayal. Betrayal, then experience, trauma. She didn't know how to make and love. Why? This, this, this and this. Because I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. Somebody is calm, do you? Yeah, somebody is calm. And you are like... The name of love. Me, I can't. I love you. Somebody is in the fear. There are relations in bed like, ah, yes. It's an anichesa. Yeah. It's an interdue. I love for peer situations. I have a club. I love for... As a lady, a lady, I'm overtake. There are people who are dispensing and expect to be happy. It's a tendency. Like, it's something to make one used to. Yeah. Addie... It's a culture. This thing, this thing, it's something to make one used to. Immorality makes one a normality. Immorality makes one a normality. Yeah. Immorality makes one a normality. Because I don't know if it's true, if it's true, not that immoral, it's not true. From that perspective. Mm-hmm. Any homophonist level, it's not true. Yeah. It's not true. It's not true. It's not true. Now, this is my bestie. Let me tell you, this thing is so long. This is my bestie. You go to the studio and sit here. Yeah. But there are relatives... who are very close to me. Like, you can be held more by a stranger? By a stranger? As compared to... So, you can be held. Yeah. Let me say, I'm 99% of my success... is because of friends. Friends, friends. Yeah. ...when I'm with my friends. So, you're going to lose these people, but you're going to lose somebody who's jealous. So you will try, let me take care of this relationship. I'm going to say portese. To the extent, you're going to do what they do. Whereas manga, two doesn't work together unless they agree. Yeah, in Nairobi. Yeah, do careful in Nairobi family. Well, I think it's a Bible. Two doesn't work together unless they agree. So, Adi said, you can't do something. Like, when you go to Rome, do it. And on that note, you can't design it like you want to issue an issue in Nairobi. And I said, hey bro, I want to meet over a drink. It's a common thing. Yeah, we are going to discuss it. To have coffees, you can go up. Like anything small, you also want to meet for a drink. Yeah, a drink. I'm going to drink tea, tea, depending on the situation. You're totally right. I don't know. Adi, imagine, let me tell you a person who agrees to have a birthday bash in Pompeii. Yeah. Who is it? Who will come? There's no one who can be encouraged by the way. Let's go to Pompeii. See, it's not about the courage. Okay, let me just ask. 99 of Kenyan artists. Yeah. It's not a bar, but music. Music artists. The music that I'm listening to is Pompeii and Shirati. Just think of those. Like, one day, I was at Fika Palace Studio. In that case, I need each song to be trending. It was Chana and Pompeii. Pompeii. Like, just the nice things. I'll do that trend. Because what we love is what we love. But do you think the same thing is going to happen to Nairobi? Come up and get your hair. Meet over a drink. Okay. Malisafi and the chain chain. From your experience. Do you think the same thing is going to happen to Shago? Not everybody in Amazali or Nairobi. Yeah. I don't know if it's going to happen to Shago. How many of the people who pick your hair? I don't know if it's going to happen to Shago. Okay. I don't know if it's going to happen to Nile. Okay, let me tell you one thing. The fact that I don't take... Alcohol. I don't smoke. I'm going to tell you the same thing. I'm going to a house. The fact that if you're going to have a house, I'm going to have a house. I'm going to have to pay for it. Yeah. No, no. The same thing is going to happen to home, to Shago. I'm going to have to pay for it. But I'm going to have to pay for it. Yeah. So that's what happens. Nairobi is just a platform. You're going to have to go to Shago to get a house. And now you want to explore. Yeah. So see how you get to Shago. I'm going to have to pay for it. If I'm in a trend, I'm going to have to go home. I'm going to have to pay for it. Like, I want to take things so heavily. Yeah. I'm going to go to TV. Just imagine that. I don't know. I'm going to have to pay for it. I'm going to have a long time friend. Yeah. If you go to home even in the story, you're just having a talk. Who come hug. Hey, that's a really big deal. The big deal? At a campus, at a campus that I was saying you hug. Yeah. I was saying you hug as compared to, we're going to talk to Shago. I said to her, you're relaxed, you're chillaxed. You praise God, you're a man. And in any but squeeze, you'll say you want to hug. So I'm going to have to pay for it in your country. I want to handshake too. Like, you know, my dad hugged me and said, like, hey, who's your dad? You should change who you are, Mr. Love. Like, in a car awkward. But then I have an experience. Okay, oh, I'm going to that notion. The campus I was saying, that's the Salam we know. So, you expect the same. You only get that reaction and you're like, oh, I forgot. So, that's itself. It's culture-shocking itself. Yeah, that's itself. That's a lifestyle you can't run away from it. But then those people, they're the baddest people we know. They're at home, they're judging, they're different. So, hypocrisy goes so high. Back to locations. There's a design, like, you know, you want to take a car and you want to take a cab. And you always want to compare on the same platform. Either it's a car, or it's a car. You know, you want to take a USIU and you want to take... Anyways, I'll give you another example. You want to take a car and you want to compare and you want to take a car. You want to compare on the same platform. There's a difference in terms of even attributes, in terms of thinking, in terms of even character. You always compare, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say it. There's a big difference. And there's a pressure of learning to take a job. And you're going to have to go to campus. Okay, this is... I'm sure there's a different principle. One of you is a manga. If you work with nine thieves, you are the tenth one. And if you work with five, four madres, you are the fifth one. The company you keep will impact who you be. So, let me say let me say an example. Yeah. You know, when you grow up, you start to have a base or a bigger story like, there are no idols, let me say that. There's jobs, and you want to find, you want to think about it as a side, Like, I was 22 years old, I was 24 years old. Okay, that's it. But then, when I went to Leshua, or any other penny, I was as young as you. Let me say you were that high-class kid. I'm a middle-class. And I received it when I was in these companies. Then, I got the opportunity to see more. I got that knowledge. I got that knowledge at a very early age. I got that knowledge, you know. And after that knowledge, I got the opportunity to see more. There's a seminar, and I had to go there. There's this youth forum, I want you to go. These people bring them in the same table. There's no reasoning. You know, I'm a middle-class kid. I'm a middle-class kid. I have that social knowledge. I'm a middle-class kid. I'm intellectual. I'm a middle-class kid. I'm a middle-class kid. You know, like, I'm a middle-class kid. I watch movies. I watch Netflix. I watch Netflix. I have a lot of experience. So, automatically, when you want to go, when you want to go, when you want to carry out yourself, you can do it. Do you think you need to pay pressure to do that? It's up to you. In terms of music, I've seen videos and posts of you doing that. You know, I'm a middle-class kid. I'm a middle-class kid with a brown style. And I'm very different in our self-learning. If you compare it to a gang of people, it's up to you. If you compare it to the quality of a woman, do you think you need to pay pressure to do that? Yeah, it does. Okay, to some point, it does. I love to watch. I've seen a lot of industries all about attention. I've seen a lot of attention. I've seen a lot of clout. I've seen people shoot videos on the street. Then, I've seen people shoot videos in a normal place in Yautam Azor. These people are over 40. So, I've seen what a gator believes to be passing a lot of challenges. And automatically, if you get a gator to struggle to make it through, there's no support for that. It is not automatic. But there's no attention for that. People grow. We know a lot of them. A lot of Vasani people grow. Kaiole people grow. Kibra, they are coming up like, you know, to be exact, we're an industry. From that background, when you're a gator, the stuff is pure. Most of the gator people, oh, and I believe, see, okay, see, same with these two. I'm not a gator. Yeah, but they really love gang-gator music. Yeah. They're not just gang-gator music. Yeah, they're not just gang-gator music. They're not just gang-gator music. But they think of me as a studio. To record. I need to record. If they record a studio, what do they sing? Now, there's the Sheng language. Is it the Shembe-Teng? Before Shembe-Teng, it was in Gini. I know of Sheng and Shembe-Teng. Two languages. So, it's something. Let me say, I have an example of Othile Brown. Yeah. Othile, like, the culture I got from Othile, because in the jungle, let me see, let me say the top, from YouTube is the top earning musician in Kenya. From the last, from the last update, we took care of him. In India, in India, and Jews are musicians in Kenya. In Kenya. Yeah, so, in the jungle, they're not just gang-gator music. They're not just gang-gator music. The pressure is low. So, we're all people, and it's a very rare thing that Othile has seen. But it's something before Othile, and he has lots of things. Yeah, he does. Yeah, he does. He's a very different person. He's very different. So, people, what I'm trying to tell you is, how do you inspire? Because that's what Calligraph John, that's what Major is, and that's why we're all people. People, they're just different. In Mahishapia. They're just different. I love them. Bunga and Kuang are so diminished, Kenya. Bunga is so diminished, Kenya. Yeah. Yeah, if you can. I love them. People believe that Gengaton is Kenya. So I come up. So is it music and Nairobi? Amani music is a general audience here in Kenya. Because what I realize is that Nairobi has a hip-hop, a calligraph, and John's. Or they have a song called Brown. Or they have a song called Bahat and then they have a song called Gengaton. And then it's gone. Do you think in the same music as Nairobi and Ushago? Do you think there's a pressure on the music genre associated with Kanaeru? Yeah. Okay. Kanaeru is one of the Gengatons. Okay. What is this place? I'm from... Siaia. I'm from Siaia. I'm in those places. Yeah. And there are some people who are Gengatons. Me, in most music, I watch them live. So it's the Gengatons. Yeah. You need Gengaton. You need Gengaton. Yeah. You need Gengaton. You need Gengaton. Yeah. So it's part of the culture. Yeah. Yeah. Now, between, say, Aneshikaren, Aneshikaren for long, I'm just going to say to Aneshikaren, I'm going to say, Aneshikayole. Now, between, say, Aneshikaren, Aneshikaren for long, I'm just going to say to Aneshikaren, I'm going to say, Aneshikayole. Nani ako sefa, ako sefa in terms of, even mindset, ideologies in terms of character, in terms of development kimaisha, who is self? Or who is more brilliant to, to, to, to accompany kimaisha? I think, I'm just going to say, Kaiole, I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say, if there's a character development, I'm going to say, Kimaisha, I'm just going to say, Kimaisha, I'm just going to say, Mahaiko. But I'm just going to say, Karen, Nimsoft. Yeah. How are you? I was always in the same plate. Yeah. I was always, OK, they can't sit in the same table. OK, let me tell you, OK, this person, before I'm going to say, Karen, I'm just going to say, Alesali or Karen. OK, Alesali or Karen. OK. And then, Alesali or Ghetto. Kaiole, yeah. out of poverty. So, this person knows life. He knows how to explore food. But he knows how to explore food. He knows how to go to school. He knows how to learn how to go to school. Now, when it comes to apple, where does it come from? It comes from... He knows how to go to school. He knows how to go to school. He knows how to adapt. He knows how to adapt very fast. This person knows life. He knows how to go to school. I know how to go to school. I can live anywhere in this country. Why say that? To be honest, I've experienced a lot of challenges. It was a boy school. There was a boy school. I struggled sometimes. To some point, there were two times when we had that crisis. So, it was... The challenges we got were hard. So, the challenges we faced were hard. This thing, I think, is that you face some stuff head on and adapt. And it's so easy for them to do the same thing next time and pass through easily. If we do something, we're going to branch out. We're going to branch out from the other side. If we do something, it's going to be difficult. We're going to get through it and I'll be able to go through it. So, we'll get through it and see if it works. I've been struggling to get through it. But I've been struggling and I've been struggling. We've been through it and we've been through it. I'm a zirconza and do you feel like in terms of in terms of you Addie Matatu? I think we've got the latest ones. Yes. Jujja is one of the latest in Ganyas. In terms of competition, because Matuwanakalchi is one of the biggest celebrations in the European event. It's going to happen in a killer market. Celebrate Matuwanakalchi because he's on board. There's no pressure. He's the fanciest. We're in the USA. So Moja 150. And Doni. Jujja? Yeah. I was thinking of something. I was thinking of something. What a loyal...