 Let's see, the breakfast in Plastivia, Africa. We're looking at a second conversation, the decline in the production of food products in Nigeria. The Nigerian Economic Summit's group, yesterday expressed concern over the declining rate and cultivation of food crops by farmers due to insecurity. The country is forced to import more food products than it should be exported. The group says that there's a huge supply demand gap across all food crops, as the country is not producing enough to meet local demand. Well, when President Muhammad Buhari took office in 2015, he promised to diversify Nigeria's oil-dominated economy by investing more in agriculture and encouraging farming. The government aimed at food sufficiency and increased foreign exchange earnings. The president launched the agricultural promotion policy which expired December 2020 to succeed the Agricultural Transformation Agenda Policy launch in 2013 by his predecessor, Goodluck Jonathan. Buhari also spoke over time about Nigerians being able to produce what we can eat and eat what we produce. A few months after his human office, the government launched Anchor Borough's program in November 2015 to boost agricultural production and to reverse Nigeria's negative balance of payment on food. The programs target those cultivating cereals that rise maize with cotton, roots, and tuber, sugarcane, tree crops, tomato, livestock, loans are often disposed to the beneficiaries through the banks upon harvest, the farmers repay by taking their harvest to anchors who pay the cash equivalent to their bank account. So we have a farmer who joins the conversation all the way from, or your state, Abraham Michael. Thank you for joining us. Thank you. Well, so there's a group that's raised concern about food that's not enough, we're not producing enough for local consumption, not to talk about exporting and that's because of the insecurity. Do you, and can you relate with this concern? I can't relate. Can you show your experience because you're a farmer, so can you tell us how this is an issue? They are saying that insecurity has hampered food production and also hampered our ability to even export because we're not producing enough to consume, not to talk of exporting. So tell us your experience with insecurity and farming. Okay, my major experience is the problem of all those asma, to all those fully named asma. So if you plant your crop now, so I have my farm in Ushubun. Can you hear me ma? Yes, loud and clear, go ahead. We can all hear you. Okay, okay. Like I have my farm in Ushubun now, so look it there in the sharing area. Bo, can you be audible? Eh? Can you please project? Can you speak out? Okay, okay, okay. Can you hear me well ma? This is better, go ahead. Okay, I have my farm in Ushubun now. So I planted some crops like cassava, maize, yam, and other food products. So all those fully named asma, they are the major problem of farming in this country. So despite the fact that they knew that the crop has been planted on a particular land, they would see putting their cattle on that farm. And if you tell them that this is wrong, so they always ready to fight like a war, like they believe they are the one in this country that they can do and undo. I think governments should find something on this to be done. Abraham Michael, I'd like to ask you, you are a farmer, I'd like you to share experience with your farm. Are you saying that your farm has been attacked? You say you have a farm where you have yam, you cultivate yam, you have maize, and what have you? Are you saying that your farm has been attacked by bandits? You call them fuller knee heads men. How do you know that they are fuller knee heads men? Yes, I know, I know, because I've met them one on one separately on my farm with their cattle. You understand, for instance now, there is no way beside that farm to pass their cattle through. They will see for their cattle to pass through that farm. You understand, and there's no way for the cattle over there. They will just step on your crops, everything you planted. So they will destroy. There was a time, maybe two weeks ago, the cassava that have not affected, that have matured already, they are still putting their cattle through that farm. No, I don't know, they are the major problem. They are fuller knee heads men with their cattle. I saw them one on one, it's not that. Michael, very quickly, we don't have time, but we wanna ask you, how are you guys, are you farmers in your part of Nigeria, coping with this security situation where you have some heads men attacking you and all, but how do you cope to be able to get your produce to maturity? And what can be done in your own experience to make things better? Very quickly, please. Okay, okay, okay. What I usually do, or my farm is, to create a barrier around the boundary of that farm. You understand, like putting the stitch, the stitch guide over that one so that you disable those cuts too from ends to the farm. So that is the... All right, all right, we wanna thank you. So is there anything that can be done from the official quarters, to make it easier for your products to mature and to be harvested, not to be eaten by cows? I think what should be done is to fence those farms with maybe wire nets, so all to do any, to create any barrier, to disable those cut too from entering. Because another, maybe you use chemical to spring around those farms that, but it can affect their cut too. They will just eat it and go and die some way. I think that is not a norm. All right, all right. Interesting, we don't want to see that, because it's called livestock are also part of the agricultural products in the country. Michael, thank you very much for your time. And we sympathize with you and your current predicament. Hopefully that your yams and other products will not be eaten or crops by cows in the future. Thank you very much for your time. All right, thank you. All right, Messi, when we hear insecurity with the country and as it affects agriculture, we might think about Bunsen and Boko Haram. But, you know, the issue of cattle, just getting to farms and eating people's crops and then the heads man of clashing with the farmers, it's a serious problem. It's affecting people down south and the middle belt, just as displacement of farmers in the north by insecurity is also affecting the agricultural sector there. But it'll be interesting to see what the experts say about this cry or call by the NESG, Niger Economic Summit Group, bearing in mind that the NBS, National Bureau of Statistics yesterday, said that agriculture was on the sectors that had mixed results for Q2, 2022. And the crop production grew from 3.39 trillion to 3.59 trillion. So what is going on? It's actually livestock production that went down. We have to look at, maybe sometime we have the experts because we have to... You know sometimes the reports... We are out of time. Yeah, we are out of time. But you know sometimes the reports that you have because at the end of the day, you talk about the standard of living. Everything that we say on paper, the most important thing is, how does that translate to our current reality? When you go to the market, do we have this? The NBS is not just on paper, they send people to the markets. I mean, once upon a time, those who are in the livestock business, you also have that they were out of, you know, what you have, the feeds where you have the feeds for the poultry. So it's quite difficult. All right. So that's what it is. That's the size of our package, yes. We'll talk about this some more. It's an interesting dynamic. 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