 Maybe yes, there it is. Hi. Apologies, video viewers. If you didn't get the downloadable video Friday, but YouTube never gave it to us. Roger and I went back and forth trying to figure out how to get it out of there. And I guess we could do screen captures or something goofy like that, but it's still processing according to YouTube. So I don't know what happened there, but hopefully today will be better. I'm gonna close the blast doors. Over the blast doors, over the blast doors. I just called someone on next door. Yes. She got all like grammar police in this thread for no reason out of nowhere. And I was like, hooray for unnecessary grammar police. And like it's getting all the thanks now. I'm opening the blast doors to tell you that next door is the worst of all time. It is the worst. It is the worst. It is all your neighbors are crazy. And then you become a crazy neighbor because all of your neighbors are crazy. I found out on next door that while we were gone on Saturday afternoon out shopping, some guy had his house surrounded by eight police cars, maybe not eight, but like more than three, because he had a dummy in his window, probably left over from Halloween and hung an AK-47 from it. That's great. That's a great idea. That's a really great idea. Really timely, great idea. You dumb idiot. Yeah. No harm came to anyone as other than him getting upset at the police for showing up. Cool. Yeah. Super smart guy. I would never have known it would have happened if I hadn't been for next door. Thank goodness for that. That's what I'd be like. It kind of raises your awareness level of craziness in your neighborhood. I'm not sure that's always a good thing. I don't know. But we're here to do a technology show. I hurt my ear lobe. Does that mean you can't do the show? No, I have in-ear buds, not over-the-ear buds, so I'll be okay. You're gonna be okay? Right. Yes. All right, here we go. If you donate $10 per month, you can say it's 1.4 seconds of every single episode is brought to you by you. Head to dailytechnewshow.com slash support to adopt the second I call dibs on the first two seconds. Have that beautiful theme music. This is the Daily Tech News for Monday, December 7th, 2015. I'm Tom Merri joining me today, Ms. Veronica Belmont, DTNS contributor and host of Dear Veronica on Engadget. How is it going, Ms. Belmont? It is a Monday, once again, inescapably. How are you? That is a perfectly legitimate answer to that question. My answer to you is also that it is, in fact, Monday. Yes. By all calendars that I follow. Now, we're doing, we're gonna be great. We're gonna be fine. We are talking about it. We're all fine here. We are talking about a weighty topic, though, having to do, not with encryption this time, but government calls for tech companies to assist on social networks to combat terrorism. An interesting difference than the encryption discussion, but let's start off with some headlines. Dropbox will shut down its email app, Mailbox, on February 26th, and shut down its photo manager, Carousel, on March 31st, according to a blog post from Dropbox CEO Drew Houston and CTO, Arash Ferdowsi. The company wants to focus on the Dropbox app and they say they'll integrate things they've learned from running Mailbox features of Carousel into the main Dropbox app. Carousel users will be provided an export tool early next year and Dropbox says that some of the better features of Carousel should actually show up in the Dropbox app within the coming months. That's sad. Mailbox was a good app, and if any of you out there are looking for a similarly good app, I really recommend Airmail, which I have been using for a long time, after leaving Mailbox and moving to everything. That's why they're folding it, Veronica, could you like? Yeah, because I left clearly. No, but it was kind of sad when this happens, you know? Yeah, and not just Airmail, but also Inbox Outlook, even all started to have some of the features that Mailbox pioneered, and it's a classic example of an app doing it right first, but not following through on the momentum or keeping the momentum anyway, and then eventually going away. Or getting acquired and then having those features being wrapped into the larger product and losing the product itself. Yep, absolutely. Venture B reports Google announced a new feature called Reminders that lets users create calendar entries that remind them to complete tasks. It will work with contacts to provide names, addresses, and phone numbers. Unlike events, Reminders will stay listed on daily calendars until they are swiped away. Users can also make Reminders from Inbox, Keep, and Google Now. Reminders are available on the latest calendar apps for iOS and Android, and will come to the web version of Calendar Next. All right, this is built for me. I love this because I use my calendar, my Google calendar as a task manager. I put things up there, sometimes repeating, that I have to do every day. And there are times when I'm like, I really don't wanna schedule this on a day. I just want it to be up there until I do it, right? Maybe it's like, I don't know, clean that box out in the garage. Like, I'll get to it when I have time, but I wanna keep being reminded of it. And there's not an easy way to do that other than manually dragging it along every day. So this is perfect. My only quibble is, it doesn't work on the web yet. And I can't, so I'm not gonna start using it until it works everywhere, because I don't wanna remind myself on one app. And then I'm looking at another app, and it's like, oh, I didn't see it, because it doesn't work there. Well, Tom, this is why we have had this discussion in the past that you need an actual calendaring app that combines all of your calendars in one location that would include your reminders. That would include your reminders, instead of just going on to- Then I wouldn't be able to use this feature at all. Well, yeah. Or- And also, those calendaring apps often don't have a web version at all either. Well, Sunrise does, and Sunrise is the best. And if you use a task manager like Todoist, you can actually have a separate calendar segment on Sunrise or on the calendar if you're choosing, where it puts your reminders directly onto your calendar. Well, you can do tasks posted directly on Google Calendar, but I love this idea of just a reminder that floats, that knows, like, until I'm done, I just should keep showing up in the calendar. Well, so now for me, this is just another added thing that I already have a solution to, that now Google is trying to wedge its way into my life with. Like, oh, just use all of our stuff for all of your things. It's like, no, I have a solution that works already. Leave me alone, dammit. My wife works for you too. TJ Burbank wanted us to note the verge passes along a report from French newspaper Le Monde that French security forces drafted a proposal, according to some internal documents that leaked, proposing banning public Wi-Fi and banning access to the Tor network as a non-emergency counter-terrorism measure. France could forbid and block communications on the Tor network in the country. VoIP services would also have to hand over encryption keys on request in this proposal. A block on public Wi-Fi would fall under proposed state of emergency changes that wouldn't make them permanent. A state of emergency was extended for three months after attacks in Paris last month. The ministry has not decided what to do with the proposals or even whether they're constitutional. So if you're reading this, this isn't France has decided to do this. This is some leaked documents show that military and police were proposing, well, here are things we could do. Now, one way to look at this is that you want military and police to say, tell us everything that you would want. We'll decide if it's okay to do or not. And that could be what's going on here. Testing the waters, I guess, though this was leaked documents. So that- I mean, if I'm in charge of the country, I wanna know what everybody thinks they want, whether I'm going to give them or not is a whole different matter, right? Well, I wanna know every possible solution that we can do and look into those possible solutions. So I guess we'll have to wait and see. But I hesitate, I rushed rather, I don't hesitate, I do the opposite. I rushed to say, I would not want to impose either one of these solutions. I don't think they're good ones. Yeah, TechCrunch reports that Twitter is rolling out an update today that will improve multi-photo displays and allow users to see uncropped photos in their Twitter stream without having to click on the tweet itself. The display for multiple photos is larger and allows the user to select a lead image. It's supposed to be available for all users now. And this is great because there's a lot of unseemly crops going on. Yeah. On Twitter. I get that this is going to make my scroll a little longer sometimes because there'll be some bigger photos, but I'd rather, personally, I'd rather have that than the crop that like takes away basically what I was supposed to see. There's a part of my mind that while like what you said is happy that we're seeing the uncropped versions is also like, oh, so much added noise. I miss the days of it just being like a very nice stream of text. No images, no nothing, just beautiful text. Yeah, and I followed 32 people and I could read them all. There was no such thing as an at. No, I don't miss that. I don't not miss, I don't miss the lack of that. I mean, there were ads that didn't link though. Yeah. Back in those days, Veronica and I could tell you you had to make up your own ads. Anyway, yeah. I do think Twitter has to be careful about handling the complication of its stream because one of its advantages has always been the simplicity of its use, right? The Verge reports that Adobe has removed the requirement for a creative cloud subscription in order to use its free Adobe Lightroom app for Android. It was free to download. We couldn't use it without a subscription. However, users wishing to sync between the mobile app and the PC version or with Lightroom web will still need a subscription. So they're saying, great, you can download it and now you can use it. But if you want to use any of the cloud services, well, then it makes sense you pay for creative cloud. Adobe made Lightroom free on iOS back in October. So this is bringing the Android app in line with that. I hate creative cloud. Really? I hate creative cloud. Why? I'm running in my gosh darned menu bar all the time. I hate it's never updated. I just, I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. She hates it. So if anyone thought that Scott and Scott was a little too positive about creative cloud last week, we'll know you have the other side of the story. There you go. Balance, fair and balanced. Apple has started supporting libraries of up to 100,000 songs for its iTunes match and Apple Music Libraries. The previous limit was 25,000. SVP at EQ confirmed the news to Macrovers. So this, I actually don't know how many songs I have. That's a good question. But my problem with iTunes match was always that I thought I had to choose certain things in my library to go in there. I don't know if I would under this. Yeah, I think I could put, well, maybe everything. Probably not still everything. Well, we digitized all our CDs at one point. So we have a ridiculous amount of music but we don't need all of that in the cloud all the time. Anyway. Yeah, I don't, okay. Australia Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull announced Monday a $1.1 billion Australian package to boost innovation in the country is coming. For people in the US, that's around $806 million. So it's close to a billion dollars right there. The plan includes capital gains tax cuts for startups, changes to bankruptcy laws to encourage risk taking for entrepreneurs, immigration changes to help lure top talent. It also would establish a cyber security growth center. Australia often ranks low in business research, collaboration and appetite for risk. Companies like Hip Chat, for instance, have IPOed in the US and that's caused some concern. And Australia is trying to transition from being supported by mining as one of its main industries, which is in decline to another industry. So they think, hey, tech looks like there's a lot of money there. Let's encourage that. Maybe I'll start a startup and move to Australia. Oh yeah. Move to Australia and start a startup. We'll move to Wallengang. Okay. Is that a lie? That's a lovely town I hear. Is it? Yeah. Well, I'd like to go to Australia. Yeah. If anyone would like Tom and I to come speak at your Australian tech conference, please let us know. Once we get enough money to launch day six of Daily Tech News Show with Peter Wells from Melbourne, we'll just have to go visit him. Go have a party. Go have a launch party. Exactly. All right. Motherboard reports that Uber has been blocked from WeChat by the messaging service parent company Tencent. Tencent claims Uber was banned from malicious marketing activities, although Uber says there is no proof of that. Tencent is an investor in Didi Kowati, a competitor to Uber in China. Didi Kowati operates, am I saying that right, Didi Kowati? Okay. I mean, for us English speakers, sounds pretty good to me. All right. I said it with, I said it. Didi Kowati operates in 259 Chinese cities compared to Uber's 20 in China. Yeah. So it makes me want to go, come on Didi Kowati, stop picking on the little guy. But then as we all know, Uber is not a little guy in the rest of the world. Yeah. Did you talk about how Lyft is partnering up with a bunch of other ride sharing apps to kind of take the international? It's clever, isn't it? It is. It is clever. I don't know if it'll be enough, but it is certainly, if they're going for a strong number two, I think that's a good way of doing it. But I think Uber has just got its 800 pound gorilla at this point. Yeah. Except in China though, where it's really... Yeah. It's having to work hard to get market share. And China and India are always tough for American companies, you know, of all different kinds of marketplaces. D Van Dykel noted a Xenoblade Chronicles Reddit post reporting that the Xenoblade Chronicles original soundtracks, you know, I think it's Xenoblade Chronicles 10, original soundtrack, can lock down your network drive. It's got some, if you attempt to play the soundtrack, apparently it mounts an encrypted drive, usually at Y location. One report says it did it to them at the Z location, but some kind of network drive. And if you're in a place where that drive is like your corporate network, you can't access your corporate network drive anymore. The edits to the registry hide the drive and users have to use GP edit and reg edit to go revert the changes. It sounds pretty nasty from what people are saying. And there's several people in the thread saying, yeah, it happened to me. Yikes, that is scary. Yeah. It has Xenoblade Chronicles. That's my only question. I hesitate to ask for fear of angering the person who loves Xenoblade Chronicles, but I don't. It feels like an anime thing. Not familiar with it, but it's not a judgment. And yeah, don't be using kind of restrictions to change people's network drives. Not nice. It's got to be a bug, right? I mean, it's bad enough that they have like super encrypted DRM on this thing, but they can't have meant to change people's network drives to be hidden. One would hope. One would hope. Hey, thanks to Dian Diakul and everybody who submits stories at our subreddit, dailytechnewshow.reddit.com, helps us put the stories together every day and we appreciate your support and participation. Get in there and vote. And that's a look at the headlines. All right, so over the weekend, politicians in the U.S. started talking about removing social media posts, anything that is recruiting for or promoting acts of terrorism. This isn't a direct response to anything in particular. It's sort of a cumulative response to the shootings in San Bernardino here in the United States, the attacks in Paris. And Hillary Clinton was speaking at the Brickings Institution on Sunday, said things like, they're using websites, social media, chat rooms and other platforms. We should work with host companies to shut them down, deny them online space. President Obama said similar things about working with companies to get rid of the ability to communicate over social media. The House Foreign Affairs Committee in the United States is considering legislation Wednesday, calling for more details on the president's strategy to combat terrorist use of social media. Even alphabet executive chairman, Eric Schmidt, wrote a New York Times opinion piece that came out today, talking about battling online and saying that we should build tools to de-escalate tensions on social media, sort of like spell checkers for hate and harassment and remove videos before they spread or help those countering terrorist messages to find their voice. So a lot of people talking about a lot of things, it's the same overall message was, hey, tech industry, you need to work with us to fight this, but whereas encryption is about, well, you need to weaken something that protects people, this is actually more about regulating speech on these platforms. In fact, Hilary Clinton even said, you will hear, what did she said, you're gonna hear all of the usual complaints, you know, freedom of speech, et cetera. You know. You know. That stuff. You know a vat old hat. A vat old saw. But it is something that these social networks have dealt with forever, which is how do we balance speech that isn't beneficial to anyone and is harmful to our community with allowing a free and open debate that we're not in control of. It's not, cause remember, it's not about censorship. These are private companies. They can tell anybody to stop saying whatever they want. Right. And I think the struggle in this is definitely real. I mean, companies like Twitter and Facebook and YouTube and sites that are hosting this content, you know, they really have to balance the ability for dissidents of countries where they don't have free speech access. Or, you know, in one of the examples was, you know, the flame wars in Russia where trolls are going on and fighting dissidents or, you know, people speaking out against oppressive regimes all over the world. And, you know, do they give governments the power to shut down that kind of speech in the guise of protecting citizens or, you know, stopping potential terrorist activity? So there's this real question of who makes these decisions? Who decides what is free speech and what is, you know, the words and rallying cries of terrorist groups? Yeah. Let's say you're the government in France and you say, okay, Facebook, we want you to remove terrorist posts. And Facebook says, well, you know what? We hate terrorist posts too. All right, we're gonna go in and when we see a terrorist post, we'll remove it. And then you have two things happen. One is certain posts start to be removed that the people claim, hey, wait a minute. This is just, we're just complaining about the French government here where these aren't terrorist posts. You're misinterpreting what we're writing. Maybe Charlie Hebdo is a good example of those kinds of posts that are satirical, maybe offensive, but at the same time, not inciting terrorism. And then you have another country, let's say it's Myanmar that says, hey, I hear you remove terrorism posts. These are all terrorism posts here, Facebook. We're telling you there's terrorism posts. You need to remove them. And Facebook says, well, wait a minute. Those are just posts further supporting the democratic reforms that you're having in your country. So what is defined as objectionable material varies by your position. And it's easy when you're saying, I know that is something I don't wanna see. But even beyond that, I would suggest to you, like even if we all agreed, these are the things that are inciting terrorism, every time we've tried to eliminate speech on the internet that we didn't like, whether it was for copyright and whether it's for harassment, it has not always succeeded as well as limiting the cause of the speech. I think that one interesting way of kind of handling it is if you can somehow find third parties that have no horse in the race, so to speak. Being able to find people who can flag content, but then that causes the same issue of, there's been issues where I think it was in China, they had people flagging content that was against the Chinese government. There was a similar thing in Vietnam as well. The Vietnam government was going in and flagging content that was critical of the government. That may have been what I was thinking of. So there doesn't seem to be one good issue. And I don't really follow, I like the tenor of Eric Schmidt's essay on The New York Times on his opinion piece, but I didn't feel like it gave a real concrete answer. It was kind of like we should build tools to help de-escalate tensions on social media. What does that mean? Isn't that something we could just use in general? I mean, I would love to have the ability to de-escalate conflicts on social media, but at the same time, what is that technology? I even talked about that in my talk, my XOXO talk. We need smart people to help build empathy into technology, but I don't know what that answer is. I don't know what that technology could be. How do we stop hate and harassment from propagating on open channels like this? How do we really prevent these lines of communication between terrorist cells and the people they're trying to recruit? It's, yeah, I don't know. There's no good answer, and it's extremely frustrating because for so long, the government wanted the technology industry to help things be more secure, and encryption was the answer to that, and we built secure encryption, and now they're like, no, encryption is the problem. So it seems like whatever we do as technologists to fight an issue comes back to bite us later in the ass when suddenly it's too good. Either we're oversensoring ourselves, over-protecting ourselves, or there's not enough protection, not enough censorship. Yeah, well, it's a tricky issue of tool use in that case, right? Because on the one hand, they're saying, you need to weaken encryption, or at least some of them, not all the same people are saying these things, but we're hearing certain people saying, you need to weaken encryption so that we can see what the bad guys are saying to each other. Okay, that's like, that defeats the purpose of encryption. Right, but then on the other hand, they're saying, we also need you to remove everything they're saying from the public because that is recruiting and inciting terrorism, and both those things can be true. It would be a false equivalence to say it's one or the other, but it is trying to control the tool. And the question is, is the tool the thing that needs to be controlled? Is the platform, is the communication? Would having some of this communication out there be better if you were able to see what they're saying and be able to combat it? The US government has made some efforts to go out and do anti-propaganda to what is generally considered to be not much of an effect. So I think, and again, I don't think it's either or. I think it's probably good to work with the companies to come up with a responsible and sensible way to say, okay, when we know it's really nothing but hate, let's remove it. There's some experience with that just in general internet flame wars, but I think you also need to do an anti-propaganda move with people who are actually able to carry it out effectively. Well, there was actually a really interesting piece recently on, oh gosh, I can't remember which podcast it was, but they were talking about the use of apps like Yik Yak on campuses where these, I think it was Reply All and these awful racist things were being put up in campuses all over the country, particularly, I can't remember which campus it was. I'm sorry, I'm coming to this example late in my brain without all the particulars, but what it really meant was, because the campuses were seeing all the racist horrible stuff being posted on the localized communication platforms like Yik Yak, they were able to confront it and that's something they weren't able to do in the past. You could kind of get the sense that some people were having racist thoughts or picking on students of color or students who sexually identified differently, but there was never proof, and then being able to say, okay, we know someone is saying awful things on our campus gave them the power to address it. So can something be done here where if we're just given the unfiltered content, can we, as people, kind of rise above it and see the terror and the horror for what it is? I mean, we're already seeing that, but we're getting a very cherry-picked view in a lot of ways. I think you're on to something important there, which is, I heard some people making the same argument about beheading videos, which I personally don't want to watch, but people are saying you should watch them because you need to confront how awful this is, and I don't know whether I buy that in that particular case, but I buy the principle of if you try to hide something, it's liable to fester and get worse without people realizing that it's that bad. We should be mad. We should be horrified. We should be furious about this kind of stuff, and maybe we won't get furious enough unless we see it, and maybe we won't push to make the changes we need unless it's in our face, unless we're confronted with it all the time, because maybe this ability to shelter ourselves is causing us to become implicit. And the danger of that is if you let bad actors preach and incite whatever their brand of terror is, they may convince people, right? And that's the reaction here is like, look what they did with what happened in San Bernardino. Look what happened in Paris. But I think it's a false assumption to say if we had shut down social networks more, those people would have never been convinced. Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn't. I think you need to have a balance where you don't let those kinds of postings go unanswered, and maybe there's plenty of them that you don't allow. And what is happening is Facebook, Google, Twitter, they're meeting with president, or yeah, with Hollande in France and the EC. They're changing their policies. There's Reuters article saying that in some cases they're working directly with governments to carry out their terms of service, but in a more efficient manner in certain cases. But just, that's, it's not a panacea. It's not like just, oh, we'll get rid of all of their postings on Twitter, and then they won't be able to recruit anyone else. You're just driving them into another corner and pushing the problem down the road. So you need to have a plan for that as well. Let them leave their data trails. Let them, let them flout it in public so we can find them and kick their asses. Yeah. That's what I say. I'm all fired up, Tom. I know. And the rhetoric here from Hillary Clinton, from President Obama, from Hollande is all very much a rhetoric of war, not about rights. We're not talking about shutting down hate speech. We're talking about going after the enemy, right? And that's, that changes the tenor of this discussion quite a bit as well. And I'm not, I don't know what to think of that. If this was World War II, not to get all Godwin's law, we'd all feel very like, oh, well, we know those are the bad guys. And so, yeah, we wanna cleverly shut them down, but in a way that lets them keep talking so we know what they're up to, right? And you've got, you don't have as much of a centralized and easy to identify group in this particular case. No, no, it's serious stuff. It's a new aspect of war. We've never had a conflict like this, a partisan conflict like this in an era with this kind of communication, you know? And Eric Schmidt, that is one thing he says really well in his New York Times op-ed, which is the internet has done amazing things for communication. It has improved the world so much through its communication, but like any tool, those improvements can also be used for ill and we're seeing people use it that way. Well, we don't have the answer. But I think it's important to have a responsible conversation about it. And I think we've raised a lot of the good points. So let us know what you think. Post in the subreddit, dailytechnewshow.reddit.com or send us an email feedback at dailytechnewshow.com. Our pick of the day comes from Paul in New York. He says, one of the things I enjoy about the show is the wide variety of items that people pick that aren't just tech. Along those lines, the discussion of the advocacy in some circles for gig-based employment reminded me of a good book that I read a couple of months ago that I thought I'd recommend called The Uprising on Poetry and Finance by Franco Biffo Berardi. The short book is a reflection on the social implications of engaging in a gig-based labor or what Berardi calls fragmented and precarious labor, an apt description of what those of us in tech consulting do, piecemeal for hire, cognitive labor. It's a series of somewhat cautionary essays in relation to larger trends in the growth of a precarious global workforce. And it's a fascinating read and I thought I'd pass it along. It's Semiotext and MIT Press, two of my favorite publishers, to be honest. They publish really good stuff. So thank you for that, Paul. Again, it's called The Uprising on Poetry and Finance. Send your picks to us, feedback at dailytechnewshow.com and you can find my picks at dailytechnewshow.com slash picks. Real quick, before we're out of here, a message from Michael who said, hey Tom, Jenny and all the other contributors, I found an interesting article that I think would spark some interesting discussion. It's a ZD net article about a woman who was in a hit and run apparently and the car automatically dialed 911. It was a feature of the car so that if you were disabled or knocked out by a wreck, it would call 911 automatically for you but she was still driving and the 911 operator called and said, are you okay? She's like, yeah, she's like, well, your car seemed to think you were in an accident. Well, yeah, cause it calls automatically if the airbag is deployed. So which is particularly if you're hit hard enough that the airbag is deployed, there's a pretty good indicator that you may need some help and that's kind of iffy, like I don't know if they need to be automatically calling 911 in that case, but it got her in the end. I mean, they found her and held her accountable for the hit and run. So I think it was a good ending in this case for sure. She was tracked down by police, taken to the hospital and then to jail. Anna Preston was treated at the same hospital I just went by and I'm assuming she had a worst night that I did, said Preston, the person who was hit. Yeah, I, you know, and Mike asked, should your car be able to snitch on you? And it is an interesting question. Like, should you have the ability to turn off that setting in your car? And you do, you do. This was a feature she had to manually turn on. So she bit herself in the butt. Well, there you go. I mean, you decided to do this and then you freaked out. So, and... This is why I say you have to understand the contracts you're entering in with technology companies, whether it be social media, whether it be your car, whether it be your gadgets, you have to understand the relationship you are entering into before you do it. You have to know all the implications. And if you're a D-bag that crashes into the back of people and thinks you can get away with it, well, tough 2Ds. There you go. I could have said it better myself. Thank you, Michael, for sending that along. We got a good Verona rant out of that. I'm mad. Oh. But you're not always mad. Sometimes you're helpful. Sometimes. And that's when you can find Veronica on Engadget.com in the series Dear Veronica. That is true. Everyone, stay in new episodes. We've got some holiday episodes, of course, coming up in the near future. We're gonna be looking at some STEM gifts for kids, how to handle your relatives during the holidays, all sorts of fun stuff. Very interested in that one. 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Hey, I hear you're going to CES. Can you meet us in booth 327-X? All that. Airbags and D bags. I like it. Title. Objectively objectionable. Deescalating Veronica. Veronica is angry. Verona Rantz. I like deescalating Veronica. I know you don't like using people names. No, I don't mind. I just don't like my own. It's apropos to the conversation. Twitter is full of crop. Although it's technically now not full of crop. Right. It's actually the opposite. Twitter was full of crop. The fixer. That's my name in fallout for the railroad. Unrelated. There's a railroad. Did I just spoil that for you? Have you not seen the railroad yet? I mean, I called the railroad. No. Oh, I'm so behind. It was Star Wars. We dropped. I'll do it. I'll do it. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to good weather. Zoe, did you like your Dear Veronica response? I didn't hear from you. From me? No, from Zoe. Oh, Zoe. Zoe, who brings the bacon? Bringer of bacon. Mechar of worlds, which we want to eat the bacon. Airbags and D-bags is winning the showbot vote. Any thoughts? Any objections? So carried. Motion carried. Makes me think of Rod Stewart. Oh, good. She looked like Jar Jar. No Ewoks. No Jar Jar. No Ewoks. I almost made a reference to episode 6 of pretend I'm dumb about Star Wars, but that's not out yet. You want a spoiler? Nope. I want to be surprised. All right. Those are part of our routine now. I see. And it's so funny because I'm always listening to them like after we do the movie and watch the movie, eat the food. And I'm listening while I prepare the food. And then I hear Matt laughing from the bedroom because I think he's napping, but he's really listening to the show. Oh, that's good. That's awesome. I'm glad to hear that. No, we really like it. 2015. I like to sing my ID three tags. So you got predictions? I should send out a predictions email, huh? Oh, yeah. We should remind people. Yes, Scott forgot I had to remind him today. Two to three. Two to three predictions. Don't have to have a ton. Homework. I predict nothing will happen. One prediction. I'm really excited about it. I know. I'm sorry, beatmaster. I had pasta for lunch and it's just like a yawn creator. Pasta creator of yawns. Creator of yens. Ew, daps. Like, can I nap? No, I had my thing this whatever the thing is this morning. What? You know, like when you're like, I have a thing after work. And then you realize, no, I had that thing this morning. I love this headline. Harrison Ford does not want to talk about the Star Wars prequels. Yeah. Well, now that he's spoiled a part of it. Did he? Don't tell me he said, and I won't tell you what he said, but he said an answer that implied something happens that you could maybe guess from the trailers. But it's sort of like, oh, well, now I know for sure. And people are very sorry. The trailers. I said, oh, oh, I used to talk about that. I was talking about the prequels. He doesn't want to talk about the prequels. Oh, he doesn't want to talk about the prequels, you said. I was reading his time headline. Well, I don't know about that. Harrison, I mean, he wasn't in them. I mean, that might be he may have never seen. No, he's just not going to answer questions about, you know, George George's decisions. He's not going to second guess his leader. Well, no, I mean, that's that's a tough. That's a difficult road to walk, right? That Harrison Ford's job to tell you what you already know about the prequels. Well, for sure. Even JJ, right? To be like, look, if we didn't have the prequels, we might not have this movie I'm making now, right? It's possible. So you can't you can't just like throw George under the bus, even if you don't like the prequels. But I bet he doesn't want to pretend he likes them more than he might. You know, he might not like them either. That's that's tricky. There are at least six watchable moments in the first movie. What are you writing BuzzFeed articles now? Six watchable moments from episode one, The Phantom Menace. Don't worry, they're short. I want to see the animated gifts. Seriously. Eagles of death metal appeared on stage in Paris. Good job, guys. Donald Trump has called for the US to bar all Muslims from entering the country for now. This guy. God, this guy. Stop me before I get a lot of hate mail. Just say stop, Jenny. I'm not going to stop. Nobody's saying stop. God, I will instead say that did you hear that the Star Trek Beyond trailer will be ahead of Star Wars, The Force Awakens. You said what? That in better news than what I was originally going to say about Donald Trump, one of the trailers being attached to Star Wars, The Force Awakens at opening night is Star Trek Beyond. Because JJ. Right. That's a risky maneuver, in a way. I know. Like you have a bunch of people whose expectations are sky-high for Star Wars. They might be in the mood to kind of dismiss Star Trek. Yeah. I'm getting two sides of the should she rant or should she not rant. I wore. So I went to the YouTube Space event on Friday. Where JJ Abrams spoke. Saved me for myself. I was not in the audience where he could see me sadly. So I never took off my shirt. You'll see why I'm saying that in a moment. Under my flannel shirt, I wore my shirt that Veronica, you saw me buy at a convolution that says Star Trek, but in the Star Wars font. And I'm like, what better shirt to wear when JJ Abrams, director of Star Trek, is talking about his forthcoming movie Star Wars. It is the shirt that encompasses his directorial high points. Mm-hmm, yeah. And you did wear it? I wore it, but I wore it under a button-up shirt. And then I was put in the screening room. So I was like, well, he's not going to see me in here. You should have just done it for the other fans. Yeah, I guess. It was also cold outside. So then by the time I got inside, I was like. But they had wookie pies. They were feeding people wookies? They tasted like whoopie pies. I don't think there were any wookie parts. I'm going to start a protest eating wookie. That's banned. What's in it? Cream, sugary cream between two cookies. That doesn't sound appetizing. Those are good. Have you never had a wookie pie before? No, no. I just, I've only had my first moon pie in like the past 10 years. Yeah, these are not like moon pies. These are very. There's a lot of foods like that that I don't eat. Won't eat, can't eat, unable to eat. Shane says the shirt that encompasses his high points is a novel by Haste Tanked. I think I have my nano-rimo assignment for next year. There you go. When is Jennifer Lawrence going to not make movies with Bradley Cooper and Robert DeNiro? Seriously. That's what I want to know. It's getting weird. And the director whose name I just captured by blanked on, David O'Russell, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Isn't there someone else in that movie that was also Silver Lightning's playbook and? Probably. And Hustle, American Hustle. I don't know. They're just having a moment. Well, Wes Anderson does the same thing. Yeah. Goes back to the actor well when he knows. I mean, if there are people out there who can successfully work with David O'Russell, they should do that. Because he doesn't get along with everybody. Is that true? He's notorious. There have been things. There have been things. They're on Marissa Severance Package. Oh, boy. What? Wait, you just said Marissa Severance Package. Yeah, wait, what? Sorry, Time Magazine just had a whole write-up about Marissa Mayer. Oh, about how much she gets. Google it. From where? No, from Yahoo. Wait, is she? What? Because there's all that speculation about selling Yahoo. They're digging up, like, this is how much she would get if they let her go. Oh, OK. It doesn't mean they are. I was like, this is big news that apparently we missed on the show today. Yeah, right? Oh, my God. No, she is not being settled. Yeah, if they're breaking news on BTS. Marissa Mayer ousted at Yahoo. That is not true. That is not true if you're hearing this out of context. That is not true. Not true. Please get me sued. And but it does say that if there was a sale and she was fired as a result of that sale, it would cost them $160 million. Oh, that's not bad. That's not that bad. Or to put it another way, nearly $160 million more than the market currently values Yahoo's core business. Ouch. Ouch. Come on, Time Magazine. You're not one to talk. It's just the facts, ma'am. I'm sure I'm happy they saved that donkey in Ireland. Yep. Got to look for the little bit of good in the world. Yeah. Myling Tonke, rescued from rising floodwaters in Ireland. It's just the ticket. I heard Carrie Fisher had a terrific interview with Good Morning America. Her dog, Gary the dog, he's a star now. He's in the world. You just don't hear about it. Well, folks, we're going to leave you on a positive note then. Thanks for watching. We will see you tomorrow.