 We're back with the breakfast and Oppenabong Kataria joins us this morning for Off the Press Oppenabong Kataria. It's good to have you join us. Probably was just looking for happy something to wish you, but let's say happy Monday and happy election week. Good morning. Yes, please. Thank you for joining us. It's always a pleasure to have you on the show. We're sort of with the punch now. The headlines are quite interesting. Governors give Malami a Mephili Tuesday ultimatum to obey Supreme Court. Let's see how that counts out. That's tomorrow. Failure to comply will lead to content and charge on Tuesday. Zanfarah, A.G. have a Tony generous quota to say. Now reverse Kogi on the equity. A.C.F. Mbaka knocks Buhari as CBN faces fresh suits. Old Nile rejection spread. The report says the 20 trillion Nile lost to CBN cash mop up. Really. I mean, there's a lot of struggles going on, but I can't wait to share the thoughts of Kataria on this one. Beaver's Reset ends today. INEC promises result transmission. Let's see how that goes. Not going back on nationwide protests, the Liberal Party is saying. There's some trend that you would see on social media. Occupy INEC. Before it used to be Occupy Nigeria. Defense had quite as many as Nigel drops in global military ranking. We'll look at that. Adamos fate, mass leadership, top agendas, Senate, elect, Mitz, Tunubu. It's a point where a lot of people are lobbying. We have done the job. We have to get it. Angus Gunman killed 35 in Katsina and Kaduna. So it feels like the attacks have returned shortly after the elections. My daughter preparing for Masters in the United Kingdom before train crash. I saw that unfortunate incident that happened. There's also a pictorial representation of the core member that died in that train crash that happened in Ikeja. We decide. We don't even want to talk about it. To hear that the passengers were saying that they were trying to stop. We have to move quickly because of our time. So I just quickly take this now. Senate threatened to stop UI funding that I said this morning on the punch newspaper. I think we'll just take one paper and then we'll go over to our guests. You know, we just sometimes I laugh. You know, I get to derive some comic relief from some of the headlines and where things are going in the country. The nation has these headlines. They may feel it launches fresh plot against President-elect, Tinnable, CBN boss conspires with Jen on Lagos polls. Those are 500 million Naira new notes to Libre Party's campaign. Governors take tough stance on Naira's guest seat. And foreign portfolio investments post gain in five years. Businesses adopt new tactics to stay afloat of cash crisis. This is a sad one, of course, but still good news. Bittersweet, 53 train and bus accidents out of hospitals. I mean, 35 killed in Kaduna Katsina Taxi. We've got other papers as we go on, but because of time, we're quickly bringing our guests. Our Punebo and Kutaira, good morning to you once again. Let's start off with the story on the front page of the nation. The nation, of course, we know where they stand. They're saying that immediately the CBN governor is launching a fresh plot against President-elect Tinnable. He says that the central bank of Nigeria's governor immediately is playing his last card in court in the closing chapter of the high-stake power play that has embroiled Nigeria in the past six months. The paper says the CBN boss who has disobeyed the Supreme Court judgment that the old 500 and 1,009 which remain legal tender until December 31 is determined to influence the outcome of the March 18 governorship election in legal state against the ruling APC is what the nation has seen. So you can mix that up with the punch that says, Governors give my army a mafia to sell to make them to obey the Supreme Court. Mr. Kutaira. Let's go to the issue of the governors and the CBN governor on the Nigerian roads in the currency. If you remember, because you're Christian, messy, if you remember in the Bible, I've forgotten exactly who, when God said, well, no, the people are for a king and eventually when God gave them a king, I think God gave them a king. I think God gave them a king. The son said, my father built you which will throw you with scorpions and so on. And that is what we are facing in this country. No, no, I'm not saying I'm telling you this, but I will say it. For any Nigerian who dies as a result of this cash crunch, senseless color is on the head of Mr. Kutaira. Because so many have died in hospitals, not because they don't have money. They don't have access to their own money. What is going on is not my last word, it is my last compensation. We have a president that has a pension for just regarding cuts orders. It's one of his meeting broadcasts. If you remember, Dasuki, he said, that was when he was admitted today, he said, they should continue to detain Dasuki. Why will the cuts, no you do well that Dasuki is guilty. We think he has already pronounced him guilty. That Dasuki is guilty. Why would the cuts go ahead to admit him to bail? That was the kind of president he had. And he lamented, this is not a military deal, where I would have just chosen. That was not the president said. You don't expect him to do otherwise. This was the same man who came on telly when Nigeria, Dasuki's way in the highway, he said, okay, the 200 narrates should remain a liquid tender. Why is he not interested in making a statement on the Supreme Court? With the country where I came from, the rule of law is here that I deserve. If the governor's life, they can go to court one billion times. What are they going to do? Constance has to go back to the unity clause in the Constitution. We have to, there has to be an agenda where it is said that those in Supreme Court, the other Supreme Court, make a judgment pronouncement, he said judgment is on a needy. And the city, because that's the high court. I'm not talking about the high court, I'm not talking about the court, I'm talking about the Supreme Court. And any president that obeys that judgment, that you get is pitchable offense. It is only at that point that I think our presidents will sit up and start to respect the rule of law. Because they know they have the immunity agenda. It's not even if you protest, they'll roll out the dance. Look at the end. They'll roll out the dance. We are headed slowly, but slowly, we rent the food and again. I said it every day and it's becoming clearer, more accurate, but you have money, you cannot access it. Go to the theaters, theaters have no forms. You go to those ones. They are almost, the way our hospitals talk to. What is that in the precutial centers? Nothing. You go to the banks, you can't even get your money. What level of prostitution is this? If you will take prostitution and correct it, beat the mess in the bank. I don't want to say some of the more mess you are not talking, but this is what God said in the Bible. The men are gradually becoming the women in the house. Live up to their responsibilities. As you wake up in the morning, you're scared to see it. You have the money in the bank to provide you food is important. You know food is rude, unless you go to the markets. Because the woman of this, they don't even access transfers. If you transfer, it could take two weeks. What are we talking about? The page of Nigeria is about women. I said no. Because from day one, this was how it started. But what will happen? What will happen when admitted can be? In Kotharia, if you're not feeling detention, in Kotharia, we have other papers this morning. Let's quickly delve into that. But I'd like to, it feels like this morning, you probably had a great time in church yesterday. And you seem to be changing the scripture reminding you of the, you know, the scripture that you were making reference to or the king at the time, Rehoboam, who would treat, you know, the other people with scorpion and what have, what have you based on your analogy there. But quickly, I want us to look at the ranking of the nations of the world based on that. No, you remember, you made a reference to a statement in the Bible about the king who said he was going to treat, you know, the people differently from what the father had treated. And I said it was Rehoboam. Yes, please. Now, so let's get to the punch. The punch talks about the ranking of nations of the world based on current available power and looking at that ranking, the final global firepower ranking, you know, they looked at several factors, 60 individual factors to determine a given nations power index core categories ranging from the number of military units and financial standing on logistic capability and geography among others. Now, Nigeria in that ranking dropped one place in the global military ranking, that's in 2023. Nigeria military was ranked 36 out of 143 countries reviewed for 2023. Now, prior to this time, we had been rated armed forces of Nigeria 35 out of 143 countries. What are your thoughts exactly? When you juxtaposed that, you know, with the factors that I'd mentioned, and also looking at the fact that Egypt is number one, you know, in Africa? So my thoughts is what do you make of the latest ranking of the military? We're ranked 36 out of 145 countries in terms of firepower. In Kotaia, can you hear me? No. Okay. So I'm sure that there's some disconnection somewhere. I'm asking that we look at the ranking, the latest global ranking that puts Nigeria 36 out of a total of 145 countries. Now in Africa, you have Egypt topping the charts. We're looking at countries in terms of, you know, how many military units? There are 60 individual factors that, you know, were used to arrive at this result. And so in terms of military units, financial standing, logistics, and that of you, firepower really. And Nigeria didn't even get close. I mean, in Africa, we're not topping the charts. You have Egypt. Now, number one on the list, you have the United States, followed by Russia. You have China. And then, you know, you have other countries. So my question is, what do you make of this rating? Exactly. I'm not going to be confused because it's a portmanteau of issues. Our soldiers are good. You know, that's about that. Because when you send them out, they perform, they perform very well. You send them out. But I must tell you, if you still boil down to the leadership, we would have probably been in Africa, maybe the first five in Africa. Then you consider the huge amount of resources are located to the military. But I'll use the likes of Buratai as a very good example, where so much was given to them, and there was little or nothing to show for it. It is not Obnavo saying it. The National Security Advisor said so. They are successors, said so. So it is not just Obnavo that is saying it. And what happened? They were rewarded with ambassadural appointments. You know, that was grasped as the legalized by Guari in the military. Because he appointed the service chiefs, he appointed them as ambassadors, not to stand in the reports by the NSA, not to stand in the reports by the service chiefs. And that is what has let you, the morale, low morale, it has let you low morale in the military. So you don't keep the, otherwise, obnavably, when you train the soldiers or when they are training and eventually they pass us, you find out that they are in high spirit. They are ambitious. They are willing to walk. But that spirit is dumping. Because when you are there, you are sent to the work from, and you look at your boss. You are going to die. Your boss is in the office. You are having to take your allowances, but your boss is building mansions. Your boss is driving a roll voice. What do you expect the man to do? You will also want to get his own. We also had a situation where somebody explained that on his way to wherever the health is related to the country, the doctor, that on his way, he met how many things, and the people would say, give me my own. Don't worry, by the time you get your destination, they will understand. Tell them we took it. The soldiers, army, and so on, and police, and so on. Because they are not being replicated properly. Most of them complain. And you also live in a country where when you die in service, that is the end of you. Nobody takes care of you. But when you are even in service, nobody takes care of you. Isn't it when you die? Even their, their, even their gratitudes and so on, are paid 10 years after. Within that period, that's why the family, the widow, or widower, and the kids to survive. It's ordinarily our military should be one of the best in the world. Because when you send them out on all these missions, UN missions, whatever mission, you find out that they come almost tops, simple tops, including the police. I can't say anything at any time because this is the man, the NSA sent away to service chiefs, like Burakai and Goh, did not, did he just pay you the money? In fact, there is nothing to show that sorts are amounted and updated to the defense ministry. They said nothing. The service chiefs, they are for some to say they want to say, there is nothing on ground to show that sorts are amounted and released to our bosses. Nothing. Rather they were rewarded upon them. It's not on the dressing column. So, so do you think that is a true reflection of the military's, Niger's military strength? Pakistan made it to that list, you know, of the countries, if you look at it in terms of power. Egypt's made it tops, I mean, number one ranking for Africa, 14th in the world, Algeria came second, 26th in the world. South Africa's ranked 23rd, I beg your pardon, 23rd in the world to emerge third on the continent. All right. Okay, we have to, we have to go. Some years ago, we really had military and corruption in the same sentence. But if you say that, we can now mention them the same some same sentence. I think that is, it gives a lot to worry about. Mr. Kuzohar, finally, finally, if you remember, on the 24th of January, January, we're all reading in the papers how Mr. President Mahon Buhari had set up a committee. I think she'd be a 14 man committee headed by himself, with the, the ad hoc chairman being the Minnesota State for Petroleum Resources meant to look into the petrol scarcity. I was really biting hard at the time. It's still there, it's not gone away, but it's not as, as bad as it was that someone would say, 14 man committee. Well, the daily trust has this headline on this front page, 48 days after Buhari's committee first to end petrol scarcity. The riders to that subsidy garnered 2.4 trillion naira in six months, motorists buy at 300 naira per litre in Kaduna, others. And the last one says presidency mom. What are your thoughts on this? Do you think the papers got me right? I wonder why Nigerians still have faith in the president. The man is just an embodiment of contradictions, full of high blood pressure of deserted writers that are mainly of concrete performance. Why are they being set in a committee? It's just to dilute Nigerians. It's a premium policy. They know what they are doing. What is happening to the oil sector? It's still corruption. Was this not the person who said he was going to address? He asked just about two months ago, what has he addressed? It doesn't reflect that. What do you think the president was going to do? Because he knows the cabaret. In fact, the government is working with the cabaret. The minister for, the minister for, say, if there was a leader to that, that certain persons in government, so what are we talking about? If you can know that certain persons are foretelling the effort of the government, what have you done to stop it? They also make a lot of money for me than this is Nigerians with committees and so on. That's all that is a premium policy. Shut up. They're just tired of it. So let us pretend to the world that we are working, knowing why we are not doing anything. That is what is going on. I don't know why I need Nigeria in its right senses. You can give me my name. The last election, what happened? You have a president who frequently disobeys Nigeria, the president he put it for. Is that the kind of president you want to trust? The electorate has been signed into a law. Is that not campaigning? Because he has immunity. I want to believe such a man. What committee? What are you expecting? From a committee that is just set up to deceive Nigeria. I don't know why even at this point people cannot understand the kind of person they are. I don't know. So if anybody believes that anything good can come out of that, Mr. Kotaere, you're leaving yourself to do so. Mr. Kotaere, if you can hear me, it's very final because we're out of time, just in a sentence or two. It could be argued that the petrol scarcity has reduced. What I can hear is that it's not going to reduce. That's all I have. Well, maybe the committee has had some impact. It's not as bad as it used to be. And it's not part of the country. No, no, no. The committee did nothing. Before you set up this committee, there are a lot of persons who have been in the government's committee that has done this. Do you know the cost of a leader of the government? All right, we have to go. We have to go with Kotaere. Thank you so much for your time. You've said it all. Thank you very much for your time. And we've been in general analysis today. It's obviously not to buy any of the things that the president says he's doing to make things. It's all right. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. It's okay. It's okay. It's all right. We appreciate your time. And we look forward to having you again next week. Same time. Have a wonderful week, Mr. Kotaere. Thank you, Mr. Kotaere. All right. Thank you. It's a situation. Sometimes when you listen to some programs, maybe when we're doing some programs, you're talking about something else. And you see people, she's sending messages as a contribution. They will send a message about Naira. And the federal scarcity has nothing to do. Because people are going through a lot. Yeah, because that's very apt and it's what people are going through, the current challenges. I mean, really, I'm just taking a back with all of this. It feels like we have a government who is not even listening, paying attention. Well, the scarcity is not as bad as it was in January. So we might, it could be argued that President Buhari's committee is achieving something. When you say it's not, when you say it's not... At the point, you could drive into the petrol stations and buy. Buy petrol. Yeah, then it could be to relax. But can you, you know, so it could be the conversation. I mean, if we want to get into this now, I know we don't have time. Don't forget that prior to the Supreme Court ruling, the president had said that 200 Naira rule can be valid. You don't even have the 200 Naira note available. Petrol. Petrol. We need to go then. All right, all right. That said, we need to go. When we return, of course, we'll be looking at our first major conversation right here. And of course, we'll be right back. Please stay with us.