 Like, have you ever wondered why are there Trumpites at all? Like, why would somebody support this guy that we find to be so... Noam Chomsky was talking about that this morning on 89.5 on the show Alternative Radio. It comes on at 9 a.m. And he was discussing how, as the center is unfolding and unpacking and dying, the fringe is taking over, which is why on the left you had Bernie Sanders and on the right you had a Trump. People are disenfranchised, weak, they're in pain, they're not for the establishment. And you know what? If this guy is going to poke at the opposition and make fun of the opposition, it's all fun and games, but I trust him more than I trust what's come before him, which is the establishment. So it's the idea of the anti-establishment, which is more powerful than all the other facets of that person's character, regardless. So it's like, I'm forgiving him of his racism, I'm forgiving him of his ad hominem attacks, I'm forgiving him of all these other things, because you know what? All those other people that were more center, they're like that, but worse. That's what the public is believing. And like the right wing of evangelicals, if you're wondering, how can a Christian support this guy who's so clearly immoral? You know what I mean? That broke so many of the 10 commandments. It's because it's the overall good that they think that party is going to be able to do for their particular value system. Self-interest, of course. Self-interest, right? He's going to be pro-life. He's going to be for this, right? He's going to be for that. The pro-life argument's interesting. I see both sides. I see where pro-lifers are going. I see where pro-choice is going. But then I also view, I look at human behavior, and I look at law. There's philosophy, but then there's the law. And there's no perfect panacea answer for this. But how I view it from a pro-choice standpoint, like if you make it or pro-life, if you make it illegal, no matter what, people are going to fucking do it. Yeah, man. That's the problem. No matter what. And it could cause irreparable harm. Like you're not going to stop people. No. So I get where you want. I have friends of mine that they're here because that person didn't get an abortion. It's a miracle that they're here. At the exact same time, if somebody wants to do some self-harm damage, nothing's stopping them. I know. I kind of look at it like it started a process. Something has started and it's developing. And it's not my call on the process because it's not my body. In general, I'm not thrilled that a process has to be aborted, which is literally stopping it, right? But I don't know the context. I don't have the nuances. You know what I mean? It's not my call in any way, no matter whether I was religious or non-religious, to tell a woman that you have to carry on for the next nine months. That's just not my call. And we have to realize that it's not a perfect world. We have philosophy. We have Star Trek. What would potentially resolve this? If a woman could take a developing fetus out of herself and give it to a guy and say, here you go, you want this to continue? I'll sign off right now, would that change things or if it could just date in a box somewhere? I think support systems though too. Oh yeah. That's all very important question. And birth control, of course, in the preceding stages, this is what Obama talked about when it came down to this issue, right? You got to look at the whole aspect of the issue from birth control all the way through for personal choice and that sort of thing. Mom was a Catholic. Mom picketed outside of Henry Morgan Taller's clinics. Henry and I became really good friends. I gave the eulogy at Henry's funeral. You mentioned that last year. That's right. And you know what? Even though my mother was a died in the world Catholic and hated his gods. I get it, right? You got to see the consistency of why she would. In her mind, sperm touches egg as gods call, as not humans call. It's a sentient life. It is. And when you take that, you're taking a soul. You're not just taking a body, you're taking a soul. From the scientific standpoint, I don't buy the fact that how do we definitely know that it's not sentient? Like, what's the trimester? Like second or something? Right, right. So I mean, there seems to be precursor, there's evidence that a precursor for sentience is at least an intact nervous system. So without a nervous system, there really can't be a form of sentience. So when does the nervous system develop? Okay. So very quickly, there's three positions you can have on abortion. Conservative. Sperm touches egg. That's it. You don't touch it. Feminist or legalist, head and shoulders have exited the birth canal. It's alive and it has rights. Gradualist somewhere between sperm and egg and exiting the birth canal. There's problems with all three, right? If it's sperm touches egg, then I tell people, I have in one hand a 64-celled zygote that's been in liquid nitrogen and is preserved and is viable and can be transferred embryonically into a woman and become a child. And I have a two-month-old. One of these is going to die. You call the shot. Now, if you're a conservative, you have to believe they're equal. Yes. So then you flip a coin. Yeah. Okay. Now, if you don't flip a coin, then that means you might be more of a gradualist than you thought. Feminist, legalist approach, head and shoulders exiting birth canal. If that's when you believe a child is alive, a fetus, a baby, whatever you want to call it is alive, then let's go back to the point at which the next contraction is going to cause birth and 10 seconds before that contraction, the woman says, I've decided I don't want this. Inject it with poison and stop its heart now. If you're a legalist feminist, you have to say do what she just said. Now, if you think it's one more contraction and this thing is coming out fully alive, viable, ready to be adopted or given up for adoption, then maybe you're not fully a legalist feminist. Maybe you do believe there are times when we really shouldn't be messing at that point. Now, if you're a gradualist, you got a whole host of problems. I was like, I'll hold off until the third. This one sounds like an easy one. I got this one covered. When is it alive? When does it have rights? When it has a fully intact nervous system in the heartbeats, when it has all of its organs, when it can respond to pain, when it's conscious. If it's consciousness, then we can be killing kids up till they're too. If we're really talking about full conscious awareness of themselves, as Jim Jeffery said, did you guys believe in late-term abortions? And the woman said, how late? He said, I don't know, five years? Because you're right. It takes a while. It does. If you think about it. So if you're a gradualist, that doesn't make anything easier. Now you have to say the line in the sand is at 17 weeks, 14 weeks. And I've had heads of obstetrics say 14 weeks. What? 14 weeks. I said, what are you talking about? He said, that's my line in the sand. I said, really, you're telling me this right now? And he goes, yep. Because I was doing bioethics work at McMaster. And I said, that's your code. That's it for you. And he said 14 weeks. What happens at 14? For him, everything's intact, nervous system, heartbeat, the hands. It's pretty much human-like. It's small, but it's pretty much intact. It's not viable. It probably couldn't survive on its own, but it's very close. And for him, that was the line in the sand. He was a gradualist and he said, that's it. He said, no, that doesn't mean I'm going to stop another doctor from doing late-term abortion. That's not my call. What is late-term? After 20 weeks. After 20 weeks. I don't know if this is social media fake news, but I've been hearing some crazy stuff about like seven months, eight months, even close to nine months abortions. It's rare. I have no idea. Maybe medical condition, I don't know. They discover something and I've dealt with couples and this happened. The first two ultrasounds didn't pick it up because the fetus hadn't developed enough. The third ultrasound at 19 weeks picked up that there were no lungs. So it's going to be born to die. And what could they do? I mean, you either have the abortion then and some women are like that. I've seen some women say tomorrow or now. I don't want this fetus to feel any more pain than it has to. It would be cruel. And I've had others say, we're going to term. And we're going to pray. Oh, wow. And it's in God's hands now. And it's a bioethicist. You don't say, no, you shouldn't do that. You honor that. But this is why I'm more inside of choice. It is choice. Because when you have the law open, you can do A, you can do B. But what a tough decision they have to make. What a tough decision they have to make. And now the last thing a bioethicist would ever do is try to convince them to do one thing rather than another. Because context, they're religious. I'm not overly religious. I'm not a religious person. I don't get to bring my biases into this. For the sake of compassion, you got to listen to the whole person. You got to hear what's going on in the world. And you got to assess the situation accordingly. Because if you don't, then your biases are getting the better of your reasoning, which could inflict harm to their particular worldview and their value system. So no easy answers. I had a friend of mine that was born dead. Really? Yeah. And the mother wouldn't let him go. And she held on to him and held on to him and held on to him. And he resuscitated. Yeah, they say it must have been the mother's touch or the heartbeat of the mother or something like that. So, you know, stuff. But yeah, he's, oh yeah, it's tough. He's alive today. Yeah. Yeah. And we're never going to solve the abortion issue. Like nobody's ever going to come up with a magical argument that says, aha, here's the answer. We're not. Because we just differ so much in our, in our opinions about what it means to be alive and therefore have rights as an individual. The most important thing though is you make optionality. Like I always gave the argument against like hardcore socialists. I'm like, you can be a socialist here in a, in a not really capitalist system, but semi capitalist system. I cannot be a capitalist in your system. I can't. You know, my dad ran away from Yugoslavia because the government came in and took his business. Right. And that's why he came to Canada. Exactly. You can still run your business. Sure. Yeah. But under our rules and we have our fingers. Under new management. Correct. Correct. That's wild. It is. Think about it. Right. So you got to create systems that everyone can play in. You want your answer or your choice? Here you go. Do you want your choice? Here you go. And those are truly the greatest countries to live in. Yes. The ones that people are highly educated. They have maximum amount of freedom. They have social programs that take care of those less fortunate and that people give a damn. Like they, you know, when I was in Iceland, I'd see people on the street walk, walk past garbage cans where there might be a bottle at the bottom. They go and get it and put it in the garbage can. They don't let the next person do it. Yeah. When we had to use the gym, the group before us, it was like five minutes before we went on a bell rings. They all stop what they're doing and like six of them grab mops and form a line and sweep the gym floor and then we get it for an hour and five minutes before, something at the bell rings and then we decide six and then we do it for the next. So that's like a social democracy. Yeah. Yeah. So, but there's this, you know, you look at these places as very homogenous, very low population. Well, Iceland's like less than 400 pounds. Yeah. And they have a unique identity that they can all raise their hands and say like, for example, Toronto, I love Toronto as a city. I don't consider myself a Torontonian and I don't know what a Toronto identity is. I've been saying this for a long time from a branding perspective. If you were to stop 100 people and ask, what does this city represent? Actually, they're going to say diversity because it's the easiest, like it's the easy one to pull down, but really and truly like what is our vision? What is our identity? What is our brand? Sun defined, really. So there's no cohesive unity. Right. That's the thing when people talk about like, oh, and it's very tribal. It's like, you're not going to like everybody. You're not going to agree with everybody. That's it. And yeah, here's a good segue for that. Saying we are all African got my ass fired. Yeah, you mentioned that last time. Yeah. But if we could accept that that and understand that we're all related, can this go any distance towards reducing the racism and the hatred of the other? I know we're tribal, you know, tribalism, racism doesn't exist. Yeah. Right. Well, are we actually racist or are we just tribal? Because now we're xenophobic, which is fear of the foreigner, fear of that, which is fear of the unknown. So we're xenophobic, but all animals are. They have to be, they end up as a lunch. It's safe to precaution. It's like, I don't know who you are. That's right. Yeah. But once we get trust, right? Once we know that I don't have to fear you anymore, that's got to go. The fear's got to go. Right. Because what reason now do you have? So here, now, how long do you think it'll be before the world accepts that we are all African? Or do you think it's going to be centuries? Actually. Yeah. Never, in my mind. Really? You don't think there will be a world acceptance that we all came from the same place that we're all related? This is where my belief in like one prophet, Gene Roddenberry comes in. And I'm almost religious in my belief in Star Trek, where I say, you know what, like, I believe, I got to believe, man, that it's gonna, it's possible. I got to believe that we're going to get to that point of like Roddenberry level of enlightenment, not none of this new shit Star Trek, but like Picard level. The only way that's going to happen. I mentioned before is there has to be a global catastrophe. The aliens or something's going to kill us all. We need an enemy that we can unite together to benefits all of us. Right. The Watchmen. Yeah, sure. Another thing though, too, is like you mentioned Africa, you know, obviously religious people should kind of be on that side if there was an Adam and Eve, right? We should theoretically come from some of my Christian friends believe that's where they're male or female, right? Yeah. And whether it's Africa or like, replace Africa for like, I don't know, like any country, Scarborough, Scarborough, like everyone comes from Scar, we're all Scar, that's right. All Scarperians. One point of origins, let's say, right? I think the identities and philosophies and egos are too ingrained in people. And I think you mentioned transhumanism. I think in the future, I mentioned Star Trek, we will have a new subspecies of Homo sapiens who are genetically modified from the get go using CRISPR, any type of new technology. Cass9. Correct. They're no longer Homo sapien. They're next version, so they won't even agree that I come from there. There is a TED talk on this. I'm a brand new type of human being. No. That our grandchildren are going to be a different species pretty much, like the rate of change, especially in the brain and like the level of autism. In the last little while, more humans are like geared to specialize that few generations from now, we're going to be very, very different. I'm going to find that. But I'm literally talking about using technology to say, how do I create this person to be more myelin in the brain? How do I create that? So using whether it's like a delivery system by virus or in bacteria, I will genetically modify an egg and a sperm and I can maybe we'll have certain chambers to semi mimic a womb to a certain level, then maybe we can put it into a host. This is a brand new human. It is. Brand new human. And so for them, their identity is like, well, I'm not from Africa. I'm not naturally considered. I'm genetically modified human being. Well, theoretically, then you could make androids, right? If you could model that process. I think we're eventually going to get there. We've already seen people like in China, they've used CRISPR for HIV to cut it out. Oh, shit, really? You got to be careful with the CRISPR because what you cut out, you don't know what the long-term effects might be. Second-order thinking, I always mention that. We're not there yet, close. But guys are doing it themselves. Some guys do it in their garage. Yeah, yeah, biohacking. It's huge. I know biohacking. I didn't know you could do that. I didn't know you could do that. So that it would turn his muscle, like he didn't have to work out as much. It would convert, tear his muscle down and build it up quicker. He died, I think. Yeah, that's my thing with any new technology. CRISPR-Cas9, that's called. That's the thing with any new technology, is you want to wait till 10th generation or something, especially when you're like snipping my RNA with some bacteria. Yeah, it's like DVD players. Let's just wait. You're $1,000 now. I found the name of that TED Talk. There's actually two by the same gentleman, his name is Juan, J-U-A-N, Enrique. And one of the TED Talks is called, Will Our Kids Be a Different Species? And then the other one is The Next Species of Humans. Yeah, so like going back to Star Trek and the hope that humans will unite, the only way, like I said, the only way to see it is we have to have some kind of external... So calamity. In Roddenberry it was World War III. And World War III was the war of social, it was a social war of different classes because the, hey, think about it, man, this guy started running this shit in the 60s, right? Oh yeah. But basically sometime in this period, in the mid-21st century, the classes are so far apart and it starts actually in San Francisco. This is bizarre. In California and in San Francisco. Doesn't everything start in California? And the divide is so huge that eventually, like that's what creates a global world war. Really? Yeah. And after that... The haves and the have-nots? The haves and the have-nots. There's a pretty much a decomposition of like government agencies and world leaders and everything. And then they kind of got a rise back up. And at this point, they've now matured to work together. I wonder if there's any kind of... We know there's a correlation, but I wonder if there's any causal relationship between the erosion of the middle class and the erosion of the middle political. It's such a strong diversity on both ends. And such an erosion of that middle class. If any society has a nice, fat middle class, everybody tends to be pretty happy. I think this is what Chomsky was saying, is that that is exactly what's happening. There's more and more people that are disenfranchised because he started it off with discussing the wealth distribution and how most people are actually in debt, like the majority of Americans. Yeah, for sure. The problem is it's through the blame game. And yeah, one, people have to understand that we're not in a capitalist system. We're in a crony capitalism. Like the stuff the Wall Street does is fucked up. They're beyond criminal. The bailouts that they did, the free money that they got, the buybacks of stocks that they're doing, that's straight fucking criminal. Just the competition alone now, right? It's all algorithmic. It's high frequency trading. But even getting bailed out by the fucking government. And then getting bonuses. Too big to fail, right? And then buying back your own stocks or free money that you have. Too big to fail. It's called the Catalina effect too. They get the first money, so they have a premium on the money. They spend on what they want, then it trickles down to the rest of the people at a high inflated rate. We'll see at least Iceland went after those guys and put them in jail. So, good on them. So for me, when I look at middle class, I think they also have been sold, not just middle classes for everybody, they've been sold a bullshit dream. Yeah, we're not actually capitalistic. Especially in the States. It's not. And that's the problem. There's too much lobbying going on. There's too much... I don't remember where I was reading it, but basically, as soon as you get into office as a senator, you're spending four or five hours a day, you're saying, getting prepared to meet donors. Like most of your job is to collect money from big donors. It's not to serve the people. And it's just like this. You saw Edward Stone's talk, right? On Joe Rogan. I didn't watch the full three hours. I watched a bit of it, yeah. I thought it was interesting. He mentioned how presidents will come in with all of these ideas and within their first day, they'll sit down with the career politicians, people running the FBI, the CIA, guys who've been around for a very long time. This is great. Love your ideas. Here's the reality of the situation. This is what the fuck you're doing. And you're just like in that same... You're caught on that system. Which I will give, I'll throw a little bit of credit in Trump's direction. It's very suspicious that Trump's personality is he doesn't like getting bullied. He likes to be the bully. First thing he did was he got into a big fight with the CIA and the FBI. And then it wasn't until recently with this Edward Snowden conversation that I was like, that's very, very interesting. Have we seen, and I'm too young, but have we seen ever in the history of United States another president being attacked by so many people? There was not a president but a candidate, Barry Goldwater, and the American Psychiatric Association, the APA, came out against him. That's why it's called the Goldwater effect that you can't psychologically analyze a person without actually having met them and discussed their situation and whatnot. Remember people were saying Trump's a narcissist? He could be a psychopath. So it was known as this kind of Goldwater aspect that we did it with Barry Goldwater and he lost big time because it was like he's unstable. He's mentally unstable. And they were saying the same thing about Trump when he took over office. And then they changed their tune and said, no, we now have more than enough evidence to know for sure he's a narcissist. Not all narcissists are psychopaths, but every psychopath is a narcissist. So is he, does he suffer from psychopathy? It's possible. That's actually a really good topic we should talk about. If we find out that the psychopaths and psychopaths can be made, they don't necessarily all have to have a genetic component, but they're predisposed. We know there is a strong biological component. So if we can make that determination early enough in life, do we owe it to society and to that individual, then how do we, it befalls us, how then do we treat that individual? Right? You know, some people maintain, well, you just put a bullet behind their ear and you take them out. You take them out of the gene pool because we can't have psychopaths. Because by and large, the psychopaths are making the world shitty for everybody else. So that's interesting. You see that recent Netflix documentary on big room yoga? You saw that, right? Good documentary. Good documentary. This guy was clearly a psychopath. Oh yeah. But the red flags are there from day one. Oh, I know. You've got to be a moron not to see the fuck coming off. Oh yeah. From day one, he was like, I'm the best. I've created yoga pretty much. Like this guy was, but you know what? As fucked up as he was. I hope I'm not butchering one of the lessons I learned here from sapiens. Like we don't know the long-term impact of the decisions and of the people. Hundreds of years from now, we're going to be like, remember that guy, Bikram Yog, he was the person that brought yoga into North America and the Western Hemisphere. My thinking is these human traits or archetypical designs have been here from the get-go. Right. From like basic logical thinking, we must serve a purpose in this so-called tribal system that we had or still have. The question is- There's sneaky fuckers. Well, they're the ones who lack empathy, right? There has to be some reason. It could be a mutation. It could be just a basic mutation. Like wartime. Do we need them in wartime efforts? Maybe Churchill was a psycho. Right. There's that aboriginal saying, right? You need wartime leaders and peacetime leaders. Yeah. Right. There's two different types of leaders. Yeah. Churchill was a great war leader. Yeah. But not a good peacetime leader. Yeah, man. I know a few people that I can say, you know, you don't want to invite them to your daughter's birthday, but shit, if there is an apocalypse, I'd be going to homie's home. I'd be hanging out with that guy. I'm also going to look at like people, like you talk about politics. And there are, I would say a very few that have altruistic reasons to go. Let's say a few. But the majority, they go for their own self-interest. They want to dictate their point of view onto you. That's it. Kind of the opposite of what the Greeks had in mind. Yeah. Like that's it. Like there's no other reason. You want to do better for society. I can tell you 10 things on top of my head that you can do right now to have a change today, then go into politics. But I want to go into politics. Well, this is another problem. You've got a lot of really intelligent people. You've got a lot of great people who don't go into politics as well. You've got a lot of great people who don't go into teaching because it sucks. Yeah. Think of all the people who have beautiful, checkered backgrounds. That could be great politicians. But you know what? They're like, why would I expose myself? Why would I go into that arena and have my personal life? My personal life picked apart because I'm not that perfect person. But they don't have that default natural behavior of like, I want to put my fucking fists down and be like, this is how I want it done. That's it. And so I think you have to be wired a certain way to succeed in politics. Yeah. Thomas Hobbs said it's probably better to work with one individual, even if that individual is a tyrant, because you can know what to expect. To cook in the kitchen. Rather than a board. Yeah. Because with the board, there's going to be backstabbing and behind the scenes crap that goes on.