 How's everybody today? We have got the Titanic project with us today and it's a really really interesting project. I'd like to welcome Donna into the bingo, the Friday bingo. Thanks Donna for bringing this project to us today. You're welcome. You are a Titanic knowledge base. I have learned. So what got your interest into Titanic? Excuse me. I'm not even really sure. I was looking for projects here on wikitree. I didn't have any particular interest in it before this but I was looking around for projects and this one just leaked out at me for some reason and I'm not related to anyone specifically so I'm not really sure but I do I'm interesting for sure. It is interesting and you've done a great job with it as well. Looking at it there's a lot to cover with this bingo today so bear with us. We're going to kind of take this in two parts. We're going to take it with introducing you to the project and a couple of the profiles that are in the project and then discuss what we we would really like you guys to help us with the project. Then we're going to do a bingo card. I put the bingo card in the chat so everybody bring up your first bingo card while we get started and then when we come back from the first bingo card we're going to talk a little bit about the uniqueness of the titanic on wikitree and play the second bingo card and then we're going to end up with some interesting facts as well. So I will tell you I am pleasantly surprised Donna how many things I did not know until we started chatting on discord about what I didn't know and all the facts but I do want to mention something too two things so as bingo you know we try to have as much fun as we possibly can on bingo and some subjects we can have a great fun and some subjects are a little bit more somber in this particular one let's not forget that we're dealing with not the fancy Hollywood movie so much but we are dealing with human lives here and what we're trying to do is document those human lives. Donna mentioned a word earlier today in discord so if this is a trigger for anybody or if anybody has any type of a strong emotion towards this feel free you can ditch us if you'd like and come back and contact Donna behind the scenes and ask her how you can help with the profiles adding profiles or adding biographies and things like that so let's go ahead and get started then. So for the titanic project this is actually nestled under wikitree's disaster project so if you thought I have never seen this project before it's under the disaster project and then it's also side by side kind of been kind of nestled with the maraton disasters and I will tell you I work on the coal mine disasters and I'm going to guess Donna this is the same for you as well working on the titanic project you cannot do like 20 profiles of these a day it's just too much it gets to you right. It does because you know you first get in there you think oh I'm just going to keep going away but there's a lot to think about as you do each one you run into so many families behind the scenes behind you know when they get in their background when you try to do sourcing even just sourcing it really is so much to think about it when you do it. It really is and if you're working in trying to find as much as you can on the sources because there are some that were in the third class that you're going to have a hard time probably doing a biography so as you dig for more information and you see that they were just people you and me trying to capture that American dream and it does kind of hit you a little bit as you start to work on some of these profiles that's why we say many hands will make light work for disaster profiles in general. Okay let's talk a little bit so first off this is as I always tell everybody this is kind of the same idea of how to join if you want to join the project this is a great way to communicate together and what you're working on to try and talk about let's tackle this part let's do this part let's connect these profiles it's the same way that you join any project with Wicked Truth there's a g2g link and Donna's got it all set up right there for you and then you just add the Titanic as a tag on your profile and I tell us you know the goals are really to document everybody that was on the Titanic but you're also documenting are you documenting like the builders and things like that that weren't on the Titanic or is this just the disaster part? It's all encompassing the object would be to to add the builders anybody who has an association we even have a category for people that just missed it they either changed their mind it didn't go on it or something happened designers a lot of the engineers were actually on the boat so um they actually were on the boat for the sailing because they wanted as many of the important people that you know put their work into it to be involved in this is my understanding so but yeah it's all encompassing but just the scope of it it's it's I think it started out originally as its own project in 2013 if I looked at this correctly I think a1 was one of the first ones to work on it I think you're right and but as they got as wiki tree progressed and they got into the into projects more they realized that this is a this is a small project compared to many of the other ones so if you look at your black heritage or your england or you know those are those are continuing on I mean those it's not a finite this is the finite group of people within reason so but it's a large group of people so it started out as a own project but then it did get under the disasters which makes sense because there should be an end point eventually but it's still a long ways off and it you do make a good point but if nestling it under the disasters also makes it maybe easier to find as people go and explore projects as well I always tell people you know we had a couple weeks ago the rock and roll hall of fame in the country musical fame most people did not have a clue that that was on wiki tree and it's kind of like the titanic I knew it was on wiki tree because I worked in a disasters project but if you don't work in a disasters project I'm hoping that this type of environment the bingo brings up these projects because like you said there we're going to show you there are a lot of profiles we still need to add to wiki tree so any help at all is always appreciated and we've got a special idea for this weekend as well so keep in mind it's the same thing that you do with profiles you're going to create a profile if you're going to beautifully source it beautifully add biography and they have their own stickers a way to identify them we're going to show you some of the profiles in just a minute what I want to do is come down to this table that Don has created and this will show you exactly how overwhelming those projects needs can be because you guys need a lot of profiles added to this still when I think of titanic I think okay so you've got a couple people you know you've got some people and you're going to add them and then you're done it's a lot of work to get to that that done that period in that sentence yes and I gotta be honest I started with first class when I came in a lot part of it I mean it was partially I didn't create the project I came into it around at the end of 2019 and then I was trying to figure out how to wrap my head around it and I decided to start with first class because they are easier to find information on so I've tried to list on your site there you can see that all of the first class starter profiles I started to have to call them starter profiles because if I sit there and do one and completely try to do one whole profile the whole rest of the project is it feels like to me that it's it's it's a you'll never get there almost you know it is yeah go ahead you know there's so there's you know there's profiles and there's connecting then there's biographies then there's family members you know there's four to five to six or more components to a project like this and I know that I was I chose not to share this particular profile because I did not want it to be triggering but there was a profile that I noticed in the Titanic project I was just randomly looking through the category and a couple I believe they're born born lived in Belgium we're going to Wisconsin American Dream that's what they wanted American Dream but they could not afford three tickets they could only four or two and they couldn't probably afford so they left their their child I believe it was an infant to me that would be under 12 months old and they left that infant with one of their parents they were on the Titanic they did not survive so when you think about that and you think okay well I'm going to add these two people I'm going to add them and their life ends in 1912 but it doesn't because that infant child continues so now you're going to create a profile and source for them in their story and then their their spouse their life their children so you're right it does keep going on I think you can see why you call them starter because you do want to give the people that lived and the people who didn't live after the Titanic sunk a full history a full treat right and if anyone who does biographies and profiles knows it it's not as easy as just coming in and bing bing bing there's so many aspects to telling the story and even finding the stories there really are and if you take that the infant for example you would have to explain the the parents and then source that and then explain why that infant lived with the grandparents and then where did they that infant could they stay in Belgium did they go to America to follow the dream that so you're right it is it can be a lot so as you go to the project page this table is fabulous to me because it also shows where we have needs pretty much and I love that you put it needs biography the titanic does have a maintenance category for biographies and we're going to show you that in a little bit as well after we do the first bingo card the other thing that I was kind of fascinated with is how you categorized these so to me it wasn't just first second and third class you also are categorizing them into there's servants there's crew there's the orchestra and there's a whole bunch of other ways to categorize this which to me again you know I always bring up the power wiki tree so we've got all these different components and projects coming in so if you look at this it's the french on the titanic so then we're going to pull in you know the french the france project as well along with the titanic the disasters the location so this is kind of the power of wiki tree to bring all these in and then bring in the symmetris because believe it or not you can add that they died at sea so there's a lot of ways that you can categorize these and bring in the power of wiki trees to help give these people that didn't live their full normalized life that they probably could have because they died in the sinking of 1912 we should probably also mention that the sinking I kind of get confused some people say the 14th some people say april 15th I kind of take it overnight but it started sinking on the 14th I guess and then sunk on the 15th and then this is the 111th anniversary at about 11 o'clock 11 40 tonight so right that it started sinking and then yeah and and it also depends on time for time period you're in everybody found out about it at different times and you know people were from so many different time zones and so yeah let's go over just a few so as we we talk about the titanic don and I were talking about some of the facts that we have in in the bingo words themselves there are going to be a lot of facts that we're going to talk about this is kind of a different type of bingo because we're going to talk probably more during the bingo words than I normally do normally we go through the bingo words kind of quickly but I wanted to point out just a couple facts before we dig into that bingo card so if you don't have your bingo card up now's the time to get it you've got about a minute or two so since we talked about that on at 11 40 on 14th of April 19 12 was the maiden voyage and the titanic struck an iceberg it I don't think I realized it sunk in less than three hours I thought maybe was a little bit longer you would think so wouldn't you but yeah and but the way the iceberg struck it was it was much quicker than anyone anticipated I believe and then our next bit of trivia is a loss of more than 1500 lives of almost two-thirds of the people on board died and that includes not only the passengers but the staff the crew and everybody and that's where I was also fascinated how much crew was and hold that thought when we show you profiles because I was surprised at how much crew there was for a specific job even that I never even knew was on the titanic sadly there were 13 honeymoon couples on board the titanic I do not have a number on who survived and who didn't that's the only bit of the trivia that we were given and approximately 6 000 artifacts have been recovered to date from the wreck site they could be something very small they could be something even larger and titanic was the largest moving object ever built at the time but this was interesting she would be draw by today's cruise liners and some of the cruise liners are quite big and I've always envisioned a titanic to be this large huge and it was but they hear that would be draw by today's cruise liners just kind of shocked me a little bit too and for another bit of trivia if you guys ever play trivial pursuit I know this one is in trivial pursuit when a titanic spunals was fake it was just for aesthetics they probably look lopsided or something they thought oh they added another one didn't they that's that's what I'm guessing too and I'll have two more facts I'm going to share one of them now and then when we talk about the cemetery part of this we'll we'll share the last fact but an earlier ship was closer and could have saved more people it it says mixed signals was this the flares that came up where the colors were different or was this through an sos I don't know there is mixed I get mixed things on that some of it says that the flares weren't the right color or they were aimed the wrong direction and they didn't see them properly some of them thought I believe one of them said that they thought it was more of a celebration versus an sos you know so it was I think it was just unclear they weren't watching well or they just weren't thinking that it was really gonna something would really happen so I think you're right it I I know that conspiracy theories abound with the titanic so we're trying to as wiki treers do we're using sources and facts that we know of let me go ahead and show you guys if you're curious how much was a ticket on the titanic so back in 1912 and we've given you the pounds and the dollar to kind of compare was you know 870 pounds for first-class seats there is no way in this world I would pay today 105 plus pounds 100 pounds for a first-class suite it's just crazy to me and if anybody goes on cruises you know that none of us pay this we don't pay but it was a different time back then this was the way to travel you didn't have all the means of traveling across the ocean that we do now so in a seven or excuse me a third-class ticket was seven pounds but that was 852 pounds as of today and if you compare that in some of the third-class passengers if you had any ancestors that were related at that time that was a lot of money that was tough money to come by just for the third-class yeah and the first-class one doesn't surprise me as much because it's you know our societies have always been so divided where the top has so much more but to me that third-class with amount of families that were on these and I know I think some of the tickets how you could travel more than one person I think there was some of that going on as well um but the amount of money for a third-class is outrageous it really is for what we would get now if you bring it back to to the story that I said that if because a lot of people think are you crazy how can you not afford to bring an infant well they were charging for the people coming in so an infant would be charged as well even though the infant wouldn't need a another bed they would probably still share a bed but that you know that's a lot of money that's exactly why that that child was left behind in hopes that they would be able to come back and get the child so it's it it is a lot a lot of money and since you talked about the difference in between first and third and price let's bring up one of the most famous people from the titanic john jaco bastard and this this kind of was interesting too because you mentioned that a one started this and this is one of her profiles that she created and it it again this shows that you can diet see this is a dying at Atlantic Ocean so we're kind of bringing in the symmetris project but along with that you can see some of the categories that anyone has added to this the stay in history the first class passengers in the titanic um the church where he belonged the 400 in the hotelers hotelers but you know going down here you can see also how detailed the profile is in the biography and as donna was saying it takes a lot of work to do this handsome guy and i believe um him and his wife i believe died on the titanic and of course because he was such a a prominent person a prominent name you see that he's in the front page of the new york paper yeah and when you looked at when i was starting to the titanic looking up information i was looking in the newspapers the same articles were just rampant you know they would go on the ap and just copy from city to city and people's names were you know in the us they were national i'm sure they were in overseas as well i just didn't have access as much to those newspapers but was right especially with these names these are the big names that everybody probably followed back in those days they would you know i hate to say gossip but the the lives of them who they married you know what they were doing and as you can see so he drowned um he made sure that his pregnant wife was in one of the lifeboats and he tried to join her but could not because this is where you hear the phrase uh women first women children first comes up a lot as well so this is one of this is really cool this is one of the most famous people that did pass away on titanic and it's cool because it's one of um a once profiles and it's rare that i get to profile one of hers on bingo and she's not here tonight for me to show or show her off okay another one that i didn't i want to mention this because i just did this so if i can do this and find sources of biography i know everybody watching can at least add one or two of these maybe over the weekend and that's a big hint and the reason why i created oscar scott woody is because the smithsonian institution just this week released over 45 000 photos to um the common internet so you don't have to pay any fees for them and i just typed in titanic and i came up with this gentleman now talking about the jobs so he was a c postal worker and there were five of them on the titanic so this tells me the mail that they're carrying on board from england over to the us and i believe they also worked a little bit with um the people getting telegrams in as well and everybody had they had to have somebody on staff for the postal workers i never knew there were that detailed level of employees on the titanic well and this was going to become with with the building of these large ships that we have here they're their idea was to run these ships back and forth on a weekly or every other week basis between the two to three ships that they had moving this was going to be a regular service and so the mail could be regularly you know dependably back and forth so i'm sure that was part of the reason that they had somebody and this was kind of from that particular simpsonian image collection this actually is from the us national postal museum and this is a letter telling him that he needs to report to the titanic for service and they found this is one of the artifacts that they found this was a set of three keys and this was given to his wife that was still back home and she donated it to the smithsonian museum which then got to the postal museum but this is what's kind of cool to work on these profiles because i feel like i'm giving this gentleman a life i feel like he didn't die in vain he was buried at sea he was not in a cemetery he did not have a you know true burial and all of the sea postal workers from what i read died at sea because they were trying to get up the many bags of males in hopes that they would survive when this was going down the titanic was going down no one thought this many people were going to die they thought that they were going to be on the life boats they thought they were all going to be saved along with how silly is this along with the mail so this project was fascinating to me i'm so glad that you brought it to our attention because i learned a lot of just the little things that people dedicated their life to and i was happy to add oscar to it okay one more before we start the first bingo card and this one i hope this doesn't trigger this one was was kind of interesting this i think donna you've already created this profile this is john star march and the reason why i wanted to bring this up this was also from the smithsonian collection his watch and if you notice his watch stopped at about i guess 126 128 something like that and they predicted that watch stopped when it went fully immersed under the water so that's how they could kind of give an idea of what he was doing from 1140 when the ship first hit the iceberg to about 11 or excuse me until about 126 ish when he died and i thought that was really interesting that they have this stopwatch still there's lots of artifacts and speaking of artifacts i want to bring up too because you said you you saw a traveling exhibit and joku has also went to vegas a couple years and visited the titanic exposition and you told me something interesting they give you a ticket a pass when you enter and what happens then you get a ticket with a passenger's name on it and it tells you what what what class they were in you know their meal time you know gives you a little just like a ticket they would have and then you go through the exhibit and you you can kind of relate to the different events though they send you through the first day the first stop the you know the the time when it happened and and then at the end you find out if your passenger survived or did not survive so it was very interesting did you survive yeah did you survive it was 10 or 11 or 12 years ago so i don't remember we there was seven of us going through so we are all comparing them at the end well it's interesting too because i i imagine as you go through it don't know we're talking it made you feel a little bit more human with this experience it wasn't just a museum or just an event it made you feel a little bit more like oh i am this person i'm walking through and i didn't i didn't know as much about it then so i did not realize how few people survived so you think you're like oh i can do it you know and then you realize when you get through you had a very low chance to get a reality of where it was yeah so it was definitely eye-opening so that's heartbreaking okay let's go ahead and talk bingo then let's go ahead and start if everybody has their cards now this will be a little bit different um some of them will be real easy words i'm going to go through the real easy words quickly some of them donna will give us a little bit more explanation too so i want to let everybody know the pace will be a little different usually i try to go a little faster through these but the facts of titanic are built it truly into our bingo words tonight and to play bingo and to win a prize what you need to do is get bingo straight across up or down horizontal berkeley or diagonally i do not believe there's a free space in the middle but of these but if there is go ahead and hit that dab it with your mouse right now you have to get all the words either across berkeley or diagonally in the first person who types bingo in the chat wins so five of you might win at the same time but it's whoever types in bingo first in the chat wins i want to point out that if you won already in bingo you're not eligible to win again yet it's a six month moratorium so you can win again so we just started bingo we're not into our six months just yet so if you won already you wait about another month for those first winners to win again and then also do not close down your bingo cards if somebody wins do not close them down just yet wait and see because we do have some people who have graciously said keep going so keep that in mind and once we've confirmed a bingo winner you'll we'll let you know okay so let's go ahead and start so fair view lawn cemetery this is in Nova Scotia right it is and that was where they interned a lot of the people that were recovered that didn't either no one could claim them or couldn't afford to claim them there is over 120 of the victims buried at fair view lawn cemetery in Halifax that's a good point couldn't afford to claim them i didn't think about that and sherbert was where it was built right no that was their french port that was the first port on their channel because they had people that just purchased across channel tickets so they were just basically port hopping they were going from england to france or england to ireland that's something i didn't know that's interesting so just port job second class i think we kind of talked about this but so we know what first class is and we kind of know what third class is what would second class be middle of the boat would they have a window it would um it is more middle of the boat um third class was on the ends in the very front and the very back and they had the most noise the second class has i believe i saw has the least artifacts because that is where the ship broke so the least of the artifacts are from second class because they were in the middle where everything was more compromised so interesting okay full speed full speed that was the speed they were going when they hit the iceberg so they were they were out in the middle just going fast now here's probably like we were talking that jp morgan a very famous guy and donna and i were talking yesterday if you want to talk conspiracy theories a lot of people add this name to the conspiracy theory but he canceled four days prior yep he was the owner of the boat owner of the boat and he canceled his ticket and did not get on the boat and i know donna has included this but i'm going i've got to make my um my irish pals happy and correct my mistake there we go yep correct here we go okay distress call distress call that was the biggest thing that a lot of people had an issue with they sent out a distress call to all the neighboring anybody who would answer and the nearest ships didn't were not we either unable to answer or misunderstood the distress calls now i heard and this is a conspiracy theory probably i'm not sure so everybody don't take me as back but i heard that there was a ship that was closest but it was doing illegal seal harvesting and they chose to ignore it i think i can't remember ship's name i'm only i'm tight but so this is kind of like the sad part of why what if it's a stress calls a distress call why 8 000 tons 8 000 tons that is how much coal it was carrying to get them from one side of one ocean from england to new york so not just eight not 80 000 not 8 000 pounds 8 000 tons so eight times 2 000 is how many pounds of coal they use a lot of coal the power of the electric and the ship and this might explain why in three hours or less it started to sink so quickly and was under waters at that time binoculars this is i did not know this until i was looking this up binoculars the crew member who had the key to the binocular cabinet did not board the ship oh so the crew had no access to binoculars for the whole trip whether it would have helped or not a cup some of them said it might have if they'd actually seen the iceberg not just heard people tell them about it from the radio but seen the iceberg they felt they might have done something different so i don't know i tell you guys a donor's brain and really good facts i learned something from these bingos every time that is amazing the key to the cabinet first class we kind of talked about that already and those of you that see in the movie you can kind of guess who the first class was and what they wore and what they dress and how many of luggage pieces of luggage they brought in there's 324 first class on the iceberg how to have iceberg in there that's kind of the you know the middle of the story here we got the beginning everybody's happy the end where everybody is distressed and then the iceberg was in the middle of our story here 52 52 percent 52 percent of children survived with the women and children first you would think it would be more but i believe that that is probably skewed by the fact that so many of the children were third class and many of them were not able to come out of third class and get up to a lifeboat so that's shocking it's just shocking i i got a really shocking and sad that has got to be the third class yeah now is it true they boarded the first class first in general if the third class were on the lifeboat there yeah the third class was able to get up there at the same time they were really getting the first class ladies and children in i believe right well yeah and i think they were the ones that are able to get there first obviously the third class there's there's also talking about the fact that third class won't even let out in some ways you know there it was it happened that they were not able to get out um a compactum was the second class sinks they were earthworm basins that folded back against the wall and emptied because they were not connected to running water first class was the only class that had running water and so second class had these basins that they would fill and then they would drain into the into a uh thing in the wall third class i'm sure didn't even have that yeah but that was their their luxury this now this reminds me if anybody's ever um been on train travel in the united states if you're in one of the rooms and not in the general seating that's what happens the sink goes like this and you pop it into the wall is that what it's like and then yep oh we got a bingo yay oh they got a bingo that's fabulous that was quick too and we were learning a lot through this so david uh what you need to do is let me bring it right on back up here so you're gonna email anyone and you're gonna tell her that you won the bingo for the titanic just you can tell her the first one if you want or just tell her that you want we'll put it on the page too and she will send you the information of where to get your prize it's up to 30 it's a wiki tree branded prize it's the store that she's gonna link you to or the bingo mug i have been told i've been asked this a lot my bingo mug is all black and a lot of people being it in the bingo mug with the white handle it was a supplier issue that's why we've got the white handle but they've got different colors too but definitely and i have it on good authority from a went that this is the most popular wiki tree branded item this year so make sure you get your mug that's pretty cool congratulations there that's fabulous i learned a lot yes you you can there's so many in there and retire the ugly mug i'll show you again this is the wiki tree branded one it's lovely it a1 created the logo force to silo that too is so congrats again david i'm really glad that you won because you do a lot of these projects too david's known for doing i call them sub projects and they kind of come up like he's doing the governor's project right now for example even though that one will never end for the most part the bulk of the work will get in and then you just add as you go along so it's great that you won during titanic because i feel like these are kind of um partners as far as their sub projects are concerned and thank you care i agree she has a white handle in love so she's already retired her old mug from that okay let's talk then a little bit let me bring up the screen and let's talk a little bit about what's going on this weekend and i'm going to remind you guys again what's going on this weekend so wiki tree has recently started i want to say david was the first one that did the pop-up challenge about a week or two ago and you're the second pop-up challenge i think donna um i i did it not one in between as well no maybe i don't remember but anyway yeah david did started with the st patrick's day as the events committees discussed this option he decided to be brave and be the first into the water and did the st patrick's day challenge which was really neat so he had to do a st patrick's he had to improve a profile with the name patrick one with the name saint and i forget what the other one was but it was interesting and that's what in so a lot of you like the thongs that go on but you want some little little small quick challenge in between the thongs and that's where the pop-up challenges come from and i can tell you that i i already have a peak at what's coming up as well they are fabulous ideas they're diverse they're they're very unique as well in the titanic one we kind of plan this so we could do a pop-up challenge and the bingo and what do you want us to do with the pop-up challenge it starts today yep i posted it this afternoon um it is my goal on this one is we still have over 900 profiles for titanic affected individuals who are not even created yet so there's over 2000 over 2200 people on the titanic and we have about 1500 to 1300 to 1500 that are created and there's still about 900 left and most of them are all in third class and crew as i said i started from first class and worked my way down because those are the easier people to find information on um but it would be nice to get the profiles starter profiles created so that we can then use those profiles to have more challenges more focus on countries individuals families whatever we can find for common on that so um there's so we're having you choose a name that does not have a profile you could as you create the profile find that there is a duplicate out there and that would be ideal also because there are people that have created them through their own daily members or even i might be getting created them and did not have all the right tags on them so they're not getting associated with the project so if we can find those and identify those we can get those properly and i will tell you too i used um i used encyclopedia titanica who knew i learned something else that i use i um went to there that source to find my mr woody and then i got kind of down the rabbit hole reading stories and everything too so keep that in mind as you do um the profiles and then you're so this goes all all through the weekend through the um april 15th actually i'm sorry i got that wrong it goes through sunday right so it'll go however long people see it and do it so um ideally they're just a short pop-up as long as it's trending and people are finding it the more the merrier the merrier um but it's identified it doesn't have a huge start date or a long end date so that you're not feeling obligated to keep in mind that a lot of hands make light work because these are not the easiest the disaster projects are not the easiest profiles but they are so so worthy they they give a story to this life and all these people they boarded the ship and i want everybody kind of put yourselves in in that whether your first second third class or if you were crew this was a new ship there was excitement there was all this news about it everybody was so excited to walk that plank to get onto this ship whether your first class you brought your best clothes you brought all the vuggies that you could find you in second class you just wanted to be a part of this to get over to america if your third class this was the american dream they were looking at they they they had arrived they had saved that money seven pounds back then put so much money to get into third class just to try and get to america to see the american dream so let's let's you know give these people life let's give them a story on wiki tree and you're gonna ask probably how do i know so i i've got a couple things that we showed you at the table and i want if you go to the main category for this you do have some different categories and i want to point this out because you never know who's watching there's something for everybody so we have the ship builders that we talked about we have the survivors if you want to just talk about and do profiles for the survivors the just mystic club these are all different categories for profiles that you can create but we also have different ones um before like i said we have the france project but there's also the finlanders on titanic and that kind of surprised me as well with that and it looks like you have also ones that were channel hopping as well the category here correct right because it made to me that made a difference um but they were getting on and off and in the finlanders that is only a very small amount there's over 200 from there's a wow i think 162 from finland and then there's a you get your sweden and your denmark there's so many options for this it we aren't even fully utilizing it yet so and that's just for the finlanders so that's amazing to me and then titanic discovery crew was that in the 80s the crew was it the 80s that they found the titanic it went down 85 i think was when they actually found it um the gentleman that that what he was his life he really wanted to find it and so he took on a mission from the government to find mines and then once he got found their two mines that he needed to locate and disarm then he was able to go find the titanic from there so that's amazing so you're right this project encompass anything and everything to do with titanic if somebody had something to do with it and thank you hillary so see we've already got somebody volunteering to go do it and then uh david's uh 15 15 nations tour they connected a black gentleman on the titanic of 80 so that's awesome so again the power wiki tree not only is it the projects in the categories but it's our pop-ups and our other little projects that we have going on in that i agree i think that is amazing that's awesome and amazing and this is a previously connected a nurse from margitina and she survived three different shipwrecks good grief i don't think i want to sail with her it makes me nervous there's two crew members that did that two crew members that did that they survived all three sister ships two sinkings and a collision on each of the three sister ships oh my gosh that's amazing and then we have a little bit more detail about the one that you guys connected for the nation tour so that's pretty awesome i'm going to post up here the second bingo card and you guys bring it up and we're going to go into this fairly quickly i just wanted to mention a few things so as you create the profiles you have the stickers to use and i love it that you have specific stickers these create categories as well when you put the stickers on there and as you notice that we have the orchestra the servant the crew in the classes as well the the top one is really used for more notables like mr aster and things like that but it's really great that we can separate these out as well so you have your stickers to go on the profiles and we talked about the biography because as donna mentioned if we could at least get the starter profiles in and a lot of times we call sometimes the starter profiles cousin bait to at least get somebody that does a search on google or search on wiki tree to find the profiles so we also don't have merges need for merges if the profiles there there's 900 here that need biography so if you're somebody who doesn't really want to create the profiles because it might be tough to do you can go in and just pick up a biography do one a week you know do one a month if that's all you can do but like i said light hands or many hands make light work and it's really interesting to just go through here as well and pick out and see where some of these people were born you can see it's a very diverse area of people that this is not just english people going to america or irish people going to america there's a lot of different countries here there were 64 countries of birth deli delineated on titanic passenger and crew so that's a ton that is that is a lot and now would you suggest that we how would you suggest we go to find the profiles to add would that be the encyclopedia titanica and then do a search yeah i'm a pop-up instructions that was my my instructions would be to pick your name from the list of ones that don't look like they've been created yet from those tables and then from there i would go to encyclopedia titanica so that you can at least get the basics on that person because it's hard to pull them out of nothing yeah and this this particular site is very comprehensive on what they have it's not a primary uh source but it so many clues and and i have found so much i don't know how i'd get where i was without that because that's been extremely helpful it's a great website and i will ask you this i'm putting you on the spot so for my gentleman that i created let me bring him up i believe he had a number by him they and that's from encyclopedia titanica okay that he was the number 167th body that was recovered so um that i believe it one of the ships we went out on one or two or three cognizant missions and they were recovering as many as they could so that unfortunately that's a body number for the recovery but i think it's important to see it and put it in the biography because it it again it gives this person details in in their bio and their their life okay let's bring up the bingo if everybody's ready let's go on and start the bingo so donna who's movina dean dean she was where did she go she was the last survivor to pass away in 2009 oh wow she was also the youngest she was two months old at the time of the sinking so she was the youngest person on the titanic and she was the last to survive which kind of makes sense yeah so she was in her 90s though so i mean this is a white star line and they were the company that owned the boat it was the olympic was a twin two um there is a triplets there is sister they called them sister sister ships right they were the first olympic class they called them so they had the titanic the britannic and the olympic and women and children first what's like we said um you would expect that the women and children would have the highest rates the women had 74 percent of survival children 52 and the men only 20 percent oh 20 percent so the radio operators were hugely important obviously if the distress calls had gotten more attention um but the crew of the titanic had been warned six times of icebergs the radio operators so this is why they thought the binoculars might have been helpful because they they really didn't think they were sinkable just by hearing it unbelievable starboard starboard was the side that was hit and that was um named because it was the steering side on the right hand side since most people right handed on the original boats before they had motors oh that's an interesting tip it is newfoundland was where they were 400 miles off the coast of newfoundland that was the closest country to where they sank and i don't i knew that there was a cemetery up in in novice fishing newfoundland i just never realized how close it was until talking to you right in the orchestra that's kind of one of those famous things that and it really comes to light in the movie but um the leader believed in the power of music they literally played from the time they got up on deck until the ship sank they played for over two hours that is powerful and they all were lost this is extremely powerful i i mean i get chills even with you explaining them and i know that's seen you're you're talking about yeah and steerage is another name for third class because they were housed in the steer in the front and the very back where they got all the noise from the motor and the steering and so that was another name for third class do remember whoever gets bingo first is the one that types it in the chat water the waterline was hugely important if the iceberg had hit above the waterline it would have made a huge difference but it did not hit below the waterline which is where the water sits between the air and underneath the water south hampton is where the ship originally took off and it narrowly avoided a collision in the harbor because none of the harbors could handle the wake that was made from the motors so when it took off it literally unmoored another boat which almost capsized into their the side of their ship in the original harbor that they left so congratulations melanie we have a bingo i'm so sorry christine christine you just missed by this much so now you're going to come back and see me in two weeks for the bingo in two weeks but congratulations melanie i want to let you know oh and i lean all of you guys started popping up with bingo this was quick i will tell you just to show you guys if you have um a little bit of bingo trivia with wiki tree i asked the projects for 50 words to and to make the bingo go a little bit further i sometimes will add an extra 10 words so we can get through more trivia this was tough i just did the words you gave me because this was tough and then what you're going to do is you're going to email anyone and she's going to let you know the link and the details but it's a wiki tree branded shop up to 30 they have a lot of different things they have bingo mugs they have generic wiki tree t-shirts they have cool tote bags they have all kinds of things so get in touch with her and she will get you hooked up for your bingo prize and congratulations that's pretty awesome and i don't know about you guys but i'm learning a lot and we're going to end this with just a few bits of trivia or information that most people probably don't know so let me bring it up real quick if you're working on the profiles and you find that there are some of the people that were bodies that were buried in Nova Scotia the cemetery category is already in wiki tree oddly it's not a lot there's 152 and how many burials were there and this goes i know this isn't just for titanic burials but how many burials there's over over 120 i think there's 122 maybe so with 152 here and that's some of the locals this is telling me that we're probably lacking quite a bit of profiles for this particular cemetery that relates to titanic and to give you an idea this is what it looks like this is going to be some of the memorial stones for the titanic and i know there's a lot of unknowns you mentioned that there's a lot of unknowns as well yep and i want to mention uh joku and yourself mentioned the visiting a museum or the exposition there is impigeon forge tennessee a titanic museum this is it and it works very similar to the way that both of you had you get a boarding pass with a person's name one and i think a number right and then at the end as you go through the entire experience you see whether the person survived or not based on the ticket that you have and this is actually pigeon forge tennessee go online there's lots of discount coupons as well for that and i want to bring the pop-up challenge one more time and give you guys the link for the pop-up please sign up like i said even if you just do one that helps or maybe you're really really good and you really love doing biographies then there's a maintenance category as well for that that you could just do the biographies and others create the starter profiles to help done in this project come to a point where it can be complete or almost complete and i'm going to also give you the link for the project as well so there's a link for the project and then there's also the link for the pop-up go to the pop-up sign up for a pop-up she gives you great great ways to go and explore and find people to add to wiki tree then go over to the project and discuss it join the project and start adding the names to the list there there's a lot there let me bring up again because i i only know this because i've worked on on mr woody but if you look at some of the categories here i know that there's more for the crew and if i click on the category for the crew donna's also given us a list of names she tells us whether they're survivor or not if you need any help with this at all please reach out to donna she's listed on the page but there are also links here of people that need profiles as well so it's a complete full information so you've got a lot of the cemeteries if they died at sea do you prefer us to put at sea or atlantic ocean or one of the two it either one is fine um it both are both are acceptable for sure so i like the atlantic ocean because i think it's more specific but that's just me so neither of them is wrong so so definitely guys go to the pop-up if you have any questions at all contact donna don't forget to add your categories because donna's creates some really good categories if you go to the sticker page on the on the project there are specific stickers for what the person was on the boat whether they were a passenger in what class they were if they were orchestra if they were crew there's so many crew i mean there's a lot of crew we sometimes focus on the passengers but there's so many crew or if you would rather work on some of the builders or the discovery workers or the finlanders there's there's options for everybody and i want to thank everybody for joining us don't forget that we're here every two weeks because next week is going to be friday date night where you can join julie and date some profiles and we're going to see you in two weeks on april 28th it we've got actually uh no no date night next week because it's the thon oh it's a thon oh she is let's see if every so then what you guys have to look forward to or the hangouts for the thon there's going to be hanging out so about every four hours i believe all the way through the thon and i got the midnight and the 4am shift i think so then we'll see you then you guys will get to see donna you're doing some too are you doing something else i will i haven't yes i haven't signed up yet but i will so so you'll see our smiling faces again for the thon so if you haven't signed up for the thon go to g2g it's pinned at the top and definitely sign up for a thon pick a team and go from there and if you have any questions about the titanic and how to help go to donna and if you have any suggestions for a project that you would like for us to showcase then contact me and i will reach out to them and see if we've got and we've got some really good ideas coming up and we hope to see you soon so have fun and thanks for joining us again i appreciate you guys