 You know, when we started Finas in 2016, actually, yeah, the first two or three years were really all about enablement, enablement, enablement, the where a, and there still is effectively a very broad fork or spectrum of expertise, you know, mostly into the how engaging in open source needs to be done as a regulated industry, you know, from a legal and compliance standpoint from even a technology tool chain standpoint, but in that experience, even regulated industries are able to address the how once the why is absolutely clear. And once you have a strong business case as to why you would want to, you know, enter open source or an open source collaboration with, you know, some of your competitors, for example. And so I think it all starts from the why. And that is in a way that the actually the way you can bring, you know, this old spectrum engaged, meaning the ones that are least expert in participating in open source community as well, engage them in the problem space, engagement into what are your biggest challenges and help us prioritize what's important to you strategically. And then, okay, hopefully we can move you through the maturity chain and have you been able to put developers and influence the direction of the project. But I think that's one key sort of thing that we learned over the last few years. Another stepping stone is open standards. Banks are more familiar with open standards than with open source through sort of years and years of consortia and, you know, standardization to sort of different levels of success. But that's also been a good sort of stepping stone. And then the last point to me is, you know, you touched on it is transparency. The only way to bring everyone together ultimately, it's building, being relentless about trust. The moment you start cutting corners in any way, sort of departing from the very transparent ethos of open source, again, with the caveat that we do certain things sometimes, sort of on a time bound basis in a more private way to, you know, we're conscious. This is a regulated industry, but trust is sort of at the fuel or the gas, I guess, that fuel collaboration. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. Building on that, I think if you have the why and the value, you know, as that central point, the momentum you build around it, and then the realization that there's not one size fits all, right, to Gabb's point that how you configure the governance and the engagement and how you manage it, right, this is the reason that, you know, this is the reason that, you know, why Finno's and the Linux and Hyperledger, you know, exist is that is the, you know, the professionalism around managing that community is super important. So that you could, you know, you could make central banks comfortable, right, that they're, you know, their needs requirements and voices standards are, you know, are being met by the code that's being developed. It's, you know, you're addressing the quality issues, the security issues, you know, et cetera, that it really is a, the community, the community, the approach all has to be then configured to the needs of how it's going to be used and the stakeholders and the standards. And so momentum, active governance and, you know, and, you know, that's that's matched to the community's needs and that core of doing something really valuable. Yeah, it's kind of the recipe. And it's interesting, I was gonna say it's interesting, you mentioned regulators because I think specifically for CBDC, again, I keep going back to sort of this idea of open governance. Of course, you know, there's a debate whether, you know, what the role the public sector and the private sector should play in digital currency. I think actually open source and open governance can really provide sort of, I think you were, I think I heard you talking about that in a panel a couple of weeks ago in New York, as to how open source could actually provide this place where both public and private sector, including regulators, can come together to govern from the get go, providing this level playing field so that there's no sort of, again, doubt that either of the party is gonna...