 Hey everybody, here we are back again still at DEF CON still running around doing these crazy interviews We took a chance to slow down a little bit. We're checking out the hacker memorial right now I'm sitting here with conjurer who is also the founder and whole reason this thing started correct well Jeff created it for sure, and it was a kind of a group request after Dan passed and And I've been with DEF CON this is my 24th year and I was Looking for some other things to do and contribute and this is an area that I actually have a lot of training in so I'm I'm the lead right now, and we're growing. It's our third year and We just want to make sure people understand this is this is a great thing to do and come and share stories and honor and Laugh and cry about people that you've known people who helped you Learn things people who showed you how to be an amazing hacker and As a community Honoring those who have come before us is really important way to bring us together and also With new people coming in or newbies. I think is I think that's out of place these days as a word They get to have a deeper sense of what DEF CON is about and what this community is about so Yeah, it's definitely I love the idea. I love what you guys have going on here It's really nice that you're giving people that chance for remembrance and a chance to Slow down and kind of keep these people in our memories with them Enjoy it or kind of feel like they're around again because this is a big Community and the last few years have definitely made none of us strangers to loss. Yeah, so I think this is really cool Because it makes me think about that old saying that you're never really truly dead until your names uttered for the last time So this is a good way to kind of keep everybody around and remembered and and we have various things people can do here They can write on this. This is an addition to this year and it is that element that We don't want to forget and that we won't if we keep connecting and sharing and Telling crazy stories about what someone did back in the day Which they might not actually do anymore You know because back then the laws were different and now it's a little different but it keeps us alive and Jeff is looking at and we're looking at how to expand this If you have ideas if there are things you think would be great here, please come and share those We are not Set in stone so to speak we have stones you can draw on but we are not set in stone We will be constantly evolving One thing that's being looked at is Kind of having a presence virtually year-round being a space where if you lose someone in That moment at that time you can start Connecting with your family your DEF CON family about what you're going through or just You know, it's not like you have to tell everybody everything because this is a relatively private group But people won't be asking you questions. They just want to be present and help and Oftentimes People may not even know if it's someone close to them what their next step needs to be Well, it's nice to you get the the community helping the community. Mm-hmm So we're we're very thankful for what you're doing here. We love it that you were able to take the time to talk with us You bet we're here every day until about 6 6 30 and on Sunday will close down about noon So we can get ready for closing But please come see us and we out if you go to info booth or hacker tracker You'll find us and there's an email that we have and if you can send us photographs of Your friends or times with them and we can print here and we will also keep them and keep them online If you get a chance come slow down for a minute step by check out the memorial everyone till next time It's cool and we have water