 Isn't that then again though a case of us the people who don't relate to it telling the person when they should bring it up Is it really our place as dudes? I because that was my take guys of a full transparency. I Argued my wife. I said, I don't know hun I feel like she should have waited finished out the match gone to the press conference It said how dare that guy call that on me after 23 grand slam appearances calling a nonsense call on me I and that's how I felt but my wife was like, you know It really made me feel as if it's maybe not my place to say no You don't say it then say it at a time when it's more comfortable. She felt it in that moment She felt right at that moment. What are you doing? Would samples get that would as I tweeted on Saturday? Let's be real about where Serena Williams ilk as an athlete is I think we're all in the same page We're talking about might be the greatest athlete of all time. We're talking about Ali. Yeah, the Maggio We're talking about the greatest who have ever done their sport It'd be like LeBron or Michael Jordan getting a double-tech in overtime of game seven of the finals This was to tie Margaret court for 24th grand slam So I do think it's essentially you start out with the coaching call whether it was done or not was absurd I've watched probably 60 grand slam finals in my life. Maybe a hundred. I don't know never in my life Maybe it was over. Maybe it was over it But no one else seemed to think that they all said the commentary all day was he did the same thing Everyone else did her coach comes around goes I did the same thing but Sasha her coach was doing the exact same thing Why are you calling on my person? Why would the star not get the benefit of the doubt? That's generally how it works Well, I always have this argument with Paul O'Neill who thinks that umpires put themselves in the situation where they become the story And he said you can't throw somebody out in certain situations and I said I Would technically agree, but does that mean that the player could do and say whatever he wants if it's a big Situation he could drop the f-bombs all over the place and he doesn't get thrown out There has to be a line drawn in the sand. She would not let it go. I agree. I can I can I can see your point about the coaching I think it's a dumb rule She obviously broke the racket, but then she deserved to have a warning, but if she kept going I think she still would have kept going and all by the way. She was still getting Beating she was gonna lose that match that party it was and I feel sorry for the young lady She was on the verge. She had a chance to turn it there Mike. We should be fair She was if you were watching the game from from a momentum standpoint the match in that spot 33 second set she lost the first set handling you were starting to sense it was turning But if I'm being fully honest to someone who's watched her a thousand times she was in her own head all day Right, she was not right all day. So would she have done this had she not been in that mental space? I don't know but that's all the more reason why for the chair umpire standpoint. She's down six two Okay, it's not like she's cheating her way to some victory You're like I just can't let her keep cheating. She's destroying this girl So why in that moment would you as an umpire inject yourself there? Don't know it's hard to Support the umpire you can't Carlos Ramos obviously was wrong Is he sexist? That's obviously certainly up for debate. I don't know his history John McEnroe afterwards said I'd gotten away with a lot worse But to me that doesn't apply what happened 30 years ago with another umpire. I don't think this is a tennis problem per se I think this is an umpire problem. She has well within a right to go everywhere that she went Where I would be critical of Serena is I do think with stature comes responsibility She is tennis in this country and To make it about her for that moment came at the price of a really really good story for tennis Naomi Osaka got robbed her for a moment. So if you want to criticize her and say well She's more she's well within her right to bring it up any time she wants because she felt she was wrong Somebody with that kind of responsibility. I could then say You know what? Maybe your timing was misplaced because it took away from what was a really cool cool moment for your sport So and I think she's okay with that responsibility when you are that big Sometimes you need to recognize a moment that was lost because of her timing that would be my only criticism of when she brought it up I think that's fair. I also feel that if Naomi Osaka happened to be a Different personality the moment at the end wouldn't have been as bad as it was I know that sounds like I'm being harsh on her. I'm not trying to be she's a kid Playing her idol in an awkward moment But that said at the end just the person that she is she never quite recovered in the moment It was really a disaster because she couldn't turn her face around at all right and that's just who she is That's okay. I'm being the whole crowd was booing her well I didn't the crowd was booing Naomi though. They were booing the u.s. Open, right? That's tough But that's very she never got the adulation. She should have got beating it off And by that same token though We should give Serena for in the moment trying her best there at the end to try to turn it around She she could have tried a little bit more once you had the mic Well, you know this tried enough she didn't try enough wow So I thought she tried pretty hard to turn it around but she could have just said this girl want man This girl deserves all yeah, that's where she could have been aggressive She could have been really great because she owned the crowd right there She could have given that girl a moment and she was still upset and I love the fact she didn't shake the umpire's hand I love that. That's I love the fact that Drake brought out meek mill and will not address Kanye West. I love that I love petty. I know you're at your petty. I'm a big Yeah, no, I Not sure I would have the same opinion if she had beaten and somebody established if she had beaten Sharapova Somebody of that ilk then maybe it doesn't matter I thought a really cool moment was lost because of it and so your wife is right or you're you're right Well, I forget whose opinion it was that the timing could have been better that she's allowed to do A man, I do I have an opinion on that of whether it's sexist And Alexa gave me a comparison because I and I she really fell passionate about this and she said You don't understand what it's like in moments when you feel you're being robbed as a woman And she just had one happen recently in a professional situation in which someone Treats a woman in a way where if she responds She feels as if she's going to be called hysterical or out of control isn't it? This is gonna sound so strange a Woman benefited from the guy disciplining Serena. It wasn't like she was playing Bobby Riggs She's just she's just trying to compare apples to wrenches. Okay, a man could curse like that or whatever and get away I don't know. Maybe in some part would also penalize the guy. There were three steps I got a penalize. It wasn't just what she was saying. Well, I do agree. There's no doubt about it I mean, okay, so she she felt victimized as a woman, but a woman won because of it Yeah, but the thing is you remember Michael would what she would she's claiming sexism on is that her behavior? essentially Essentially is being called on ladylike. That's essentially what it is because meltdowns are part of tennis right and meltdowns are a part of a lot of male Male-driven sports as we pointed out. I sat here celebrating Aaron Boone for losing his mind That's part of baseball, right? It's built into it tennis is different women's tennis is different I Just think this Ultimately my number one takeaway from it is was Serena perfect. No, I don't think she was however To me my number one problem is Why on earth would an umpire in a moment like that start in the middle of a match call a penalty No one calls that was just a stupid way to inject yourself. Did Serena handle it perfectly afterwards that could we could debate that all day? Not even afterwards or when she got that when she had the game take on she was very I was so shocked Michael to get I didn't know a game being taken away was a thing Yeah, if you recall it's 3-3. She loses the game. So they're on serve at this point Osaka wins on serve to go to 4-3 So they're on pace to stay on serve and maybe end up in a tie break for the second set Which if Serena wins? What are the how much of the odd swing that she wins the third set? Instead they say on serve go to 4-3. She yells takes a game. It's now 5-3. Right? It's basically over. Yeah, she basically it was basically like having a quarter taken away. It was so brutal So it was a I'll tell you what though. It was like bite-fighted Jace I mean it was a shocking moment on TV. Yeah, it took your breath away. It really did