 This is the SF Productions podcast network It's all your favorite movies from summer 2017 Bueller Bueller from the pop culture bunker. I'm Mindy, and I'm Mark You can check out our audio podcast how I get my wave 3 comics on iTunes or on our website SF podcast network com The summer movie season is finally concluded and these studios are glad of it because it was a disaster Well, what happened? First, let's define things Although this is always highly debated We are using the traditional summer movie season to start Memorial Day weekend and end Labor Day weekend All the stats we're going to give you are as of Labor Day weekend This means Guardians the Galaxy 2 is out. That was too early. That was too early Okay, but so are King Arthur and Alien Covenant. What? There's also the question of when a movie can be considered a success or not now Traditionally that was assumed to be when the domestic gross was three times the budget because you got to give money to the theaters and Producers and you know, there's you basically added it three times that you spent on the overall budget But now foreign sales are far more valuable and more important than domestic sales So we're gonna include both in our numbers look at both and we'll begin in chronological order of release with the Baywatch reboot. Mm-hmm. It had a budget of 69 million dollars domestic gross of 58 million dollars foreign 119 million with a total of 177 million grossed So it counts as a flop perhaps the rock can't carry a movie anymore or maybe those TV to movie reboots start to play Yeah Pirates of the Caribbean dead men tell no tales budget of 230 million domestic was 172 million foreign was 619 million for a total of 791 million despite that huge number because of the huge budget comes in at me Be it far underperform the other four Pirates films I think when you get to number five in a franchise, maybe it's time to put this out to pasture There are some you could argue with but in this case I agree Yeah, of course, then we have Wonder Woman with a budget of 149 million domestic gross of 407 million foreign was 400 million a total of 807 million dollar gross It was a hit it only took them 76 years to get her to the screen It's the most profitable DC movie in the modern era and the third ever Currently at number 23 all-time domestic now again. It was as of Labor Day weekend We're doing about a week later. We're taping about a week later Now she might actually save the Justice League movie along with Joss Whedon. Yeah The mummy budget 125 million domestic 80 million foreign 327 million total 407 million dollars meh Universal's planned dark universe franchise lands with a thud Perhaps Tom Cruise should just sit at home on his pile of money I think studios and this happens more and more often they need to understand that Franchises need to occur Organically, you don't just make your first film an introduction into a franchise without actually making it its own movie Yeah, exactly and I think we can see that with some of DC stuff as well, right? Onto another sequel cars three. We don't know what the budget was for it. Nope And you know what I think some of that comes from the fact that they reuse a lot of the stuff from the earlier movies Domestic gross was 149 million foreign was 176 million total is 325 million meh With no published budget. We go with the other two films in the franchise domestic adjusted for inflation cars was 331 million cars 2 was 212 million now I'm a huge Pixar fan, but I've never gotten the point of this one other than selling toys However, it does sell twice and it does sell in video and that may be where they're looking at making their money Rough night budget 20 million domestic 22 million foreign 24 million total of 46 million dollars L. Flappo Hollywood keeps chasing that brights maids high and even with Scarlett Johansson and Kate McKinnon they fail again Transformers the last night budget 217 million domestic 130 million foreign 473 million Total of 604 million but still considered a flop despite the huge foreign numbers The three times goal was not met Two hours of digital explosions. No, thanks and another example of number five in a franchise. Yep Baby driver with a budget of 34 million domestic 104 million foreign 90 million before a total of 194 million dollars that's a hit and you just take an original concept plus car chases plus a built-in soundtrack for the win Despicable me three budget 80 million dollars a domestic take of 256 million foreign 720 million for a total of 976 million This is a hit and a money-making machine for Steve Carell The house budget of 40 million domestic 25 million foreign seven million Total 33 million flop big flop. Yeah, I'm thinking will Farrell can no longer open a movie Spider-man homecoming budget of 175 million domestic take 321 million foreign 418 million Total 739 million which means it's a hit and all it took was Sony letting Marvel Studios take the wheel War for the planet of the eights budget 150 million domestic 143 million foreign 216 million total 359 million that's actually with even with all that movie. It's a flop because it didn't make its 3x It's number four in the franchise and beaten by all the other modern films Plus the original if you adjust it for inflation On to a war movie Dunkirk it was budgeted at a hundred million domestic it took in 175 million foreign 240 million for a total of 415 million so it's a hit it's still in the theaters and already a huge success Christopher Nolan shows he can do spectacle Valerian and the city of a thousand planets with a budget of 177 million domestic 39 million foreign 133 million total 172 million critical fail. It's the Lone Ranger of 2017 an adaptation of a French comic with two young models as the stars it can't miss atomic blonde This was Charlize Theron as a Cold War spy, but I don't remember it at all Yeah, I hid at a budget of 30 million dollars rather low domestic take of 49 million foreign of 31 million for a total of 81 million which gives it a Meh rating I suspect the film would have done better had it come out early in the summer or even outside of it Yeah, it just got buried The emoji movie with a budget of 50 million domestic 78 million foreign 67 million for a total of 146 million and What's the emoji for me? The dark tower Budget of 60 million domestic was 46 million foreign was 43 million for a total of 89 million It was a flop Another attempt at a franchise without creating a good movie on its own and from what I heard about it They basically took pieces from the various novels and crammed it into a 90 minute movie. Yeah like If you're doing a franchise, why don't you start with the first book and just do the first book? I think some of these books like the dark tower and stuff now would be so much better suited towards the mini series on TV Yeah, absolutely Annabelle creation with a budget of 15 million a domestic of 83 million foreign of 138 million for a total of 222 million that's a hit a quick and dirty horror film coming out against a series of ten pole flops equals box office gold sometimes these lower budget movies can just Make so much more because they're so different The hitman's bodyguard had a budget of 30 million Domestic was 47 million. We don't have any foreign numbers. Nope Total of 47 million so far. So it could be a man. We'll see if this action buddy comedy has legs So what did we learn? Well superhero movies are still a good bet. Yes Long-running franchises are not especially if they're number five in a series Big stars aren't the guarantee they used to be no foreign grosses can save a domestic flop And Warner Brothers was the big winner even after King Arthur for this year with Wonder Woman Dunkirk and Annabelle creation for a total of 1.4 billion dollars. Good job, Warner Brothers. And what did the studios learn? Rotten Tomatoes destroyed fine films. Yeah, that's basically what they're saying now that oh these reviews came out and they're Who are they to make the decisions for this and people If they don't see a really high Rotten Tomatoes, they don't go see the movie Well, you know what they'd have higher scores on Rotten Tomatoes if they were good movies Yeah, an example of this is by the way the emoji movie It was embargoed for the reviewers until the movie came out Which is always a really good sign that you don't trust the movie to actually have the reviewers see it beforehand Ha I don't know I very seldom actually look at the I really don't either Rotten Tomatoes, but then we don't see as many movies as as maybe some people do Because we're too busy right on our audio podcast How I got my wife to read comics on iTunes or on our website sfpodcastnetwork.com from the pop culture bunker And i'm mark. Thanks for watching