 Well, it's time now for our hot topic and we're focusing on on those states. There is a sunset and there is a dawn in on those state right now. But before we go to the nitty gritty of that, we have our guest here who will be talking about these issues Dr. Ibrahim Oshinowo, Enterprise and Investment Risk expert has joined us to talk on a do on on those state Good morning and welcome to the program doctor. Thank you for having me. Thank you. Yeah, like I said, it's a sunset for Keredolu. He's no more, but it is a dawn of a new day for Ayed Etiwa in on those state. Ayed Etiwa has been sworn in as we bid farewell to Keredolu at this time. So let's let's just get you your your opinion on issues leading to this moment and what you respect from on those state from here on out. Yeah, this was actually a great one. He is a symbol of someone you can call a patriot. But he loves his country. He loves on those states. And he sounds and you are diligently is the smell is, you know, a huge loss to a lot of us. I could remember when I was in the University of in Mandela. My mom elder said better than was the chief engineer of the UCH. So I met him in 1990. As a young guy, he was already a lawyer in a molotov. And when we go for student you know, the same back in the days, I remember came and a boyfriend was actually the lawyer for the so-called bad boys in school who used the unison to speak or they oppressed and challenged the military. But we were dealt with. But up against the law and a boyfriend was actually one of the pwnier who we call three and the rest of the fair. But the law system was the latest. But what they have to was also in the fair. And a boy that grew up was also in the fair. If I am going to grow up was the most expended and resticated. Back in the days. But of course, if you are you are in the if it is the same link road to both universities. So most of the union boys, student boys who are in the fair and the world in the University of Mandela are mostly linked. And many of us were suspended from school, causing trouble, protesting, the military. And these are legal luminary, who stood firm for us as young boys who naively behave as sometimes. So actually pan-Africanism is a case of oppression. It does not count be oppressed. I will remember also when he lost his first election through Agaku. I briefly worked closely, not so much. I was. You know, in terms of policy management, you know, risk performance, project management, especially, you know, funding of project is part of those people that we discussed. Professional, you know, Texas is thanks to Texas research that we had in Switzerland, a part of the Western Africa where we're developing with the enterprises to be measured in terms of funding of projects, you know, before you have to quit the project, soil text, you know, ever met the past assessments and, you know, funding of investment in terms of, you know, entertaining the risk analysis of any project. It's one of those people that bought into those, you know, new and, you know, you know, expensive, you know, mode of investment portfolio for state government. Also, if you could remember, during the forming of APC, Kobuna Keido was actually one of the pillar of the part, you know, is truth fair. He doesn't, he doesn't really, really care about how you feel as long as his interest and his mode of, you know, expression is for the people. At the same time, in 2007 during Yair Agua, you know, issue, explore, I would point to you also. Let's just know that if you are here, you must transfer power. I can read, I do read few commentary from, you know, daily news and, you know, online medias, you know, castigating them that you should relinquish power, you should do this, you should do that. And I like, I'm very happy that, you know, my dear friend and brother, S.A.M. also alluded that if you knew that Keido, that he knows, if he has the opportunity to write or is capable of delivering species, he would have transferred power to Yair Agua and I'm very sure the day I heard that comment from Kairudair Julesi, I was very impressed, you know, he's not a greedy person and he's also a constitutionalist, he lost to and trained to the dictates of the Constitution. He was elected also as the president, you know, unanimously and performed credibly with nobody in this country. If we are, power move 1455, you will know, actually, don't know that he is a man, he's a constitutional, you can call him a constitutional man, you follow the Constitution to the letter and he's read, why he let me, he was very memorable. A lot of people will remember him. Also, during the famous South North, where the North wanted to retain power, is poor, even challenging the president, unless he knew that either you like it or not, the Constitution is built on rotation, North cannot retain power, either by correct influencing the process or proxying it, through using PDP to get a candidate from the North, is to frame and spoke, you know, altruistically, he doesn't, you know, he doesn't, if he knew him, a lot of people that knows, Governor Haley will tell you that he will speak out, he's not a, he's not a, you know, he pretends to speak out, he will speak out. He would not mind if the moon is going to, it's going to be cloudy and sunny at the same time, he will speak out. So, he is actually a nationalist, you know, and he's still always remembering good. And also, if you look at, during the full army, you know, a Hexman and Kathuera, you know, dusted, he told them directly that he would not allow, you know, gracing, you know, cow, you know, headers coming to dusted and start, you know, killing people, the pretence of you burying your cow. Same thing as the then-government, it is Mr. Fiershey, you know, close and brave, you know, the intelligence Southwesterners that will take with them. And in general, I can tell you that the Southwesterners, we have lost a very rare gem, we have lost a fighter, we have lost a nationalist, and we have lost, you know, one of our best prey, you know, is, if you look at his reign also, let's take a small dith in dusted, you know, it took power six years ago to go to dusted, most of the projects in there were executed, you know, to the best of the world class, you know, he applied this branch of, you know, background as a professional, you know, legal, luminary, into the governance, most of these things are told transparently. So it's hard for you to hear anything bad about a criminal. It's very hard for you to hear anything. They talk to family, it's a true burden in general, the first lady from in most states, for instance, you can imagine the wife that he got married to 40 years ago from the east, so he shows his nationalism in terms of his attitude, his personality, what he believes, he believes in this country, he believes the general is still going to be great, you know. So he's a man of many, many parts, so it's a very sad, you know, event for us, you know, we share the same sentiments, we share the same sentiments with you, we were talking earlier how we would like to remember him for all the things that you have mentioned here and even more, especially in terms of security, you didn't mention Amotecun, but we know that his contribution led to the formation of that Amotecun and the funding of Amotecun to make it stand as it is right now. Towards the end of his life, not even his tenure, it seems as if some people were trying to rubbish his image and doing things that were attributed to him that may not be attributed to him or may not have emanated from him, but that aside, that would be another kettle to fry another day, but how do you think we should immortalize somebody as great as Akeredulu was in the Nigeria sphere? What do you think we can do to immortalize a man like that so that tomorrow another person might just see and say, okay, it's good to be a patriot like Akeredulu was, because I too will be immortalized? A lot of ways that we can immortalize such, you know, a rare thing. First of all, we call on the new governor to be magnanimous and show, you know, absolute loyalty to Akeredulu's legacy, because without God, Akeredulu would not be here. Akeredulu, if you remember, removed Angora, the then deputy governor, and been walking from nowhere, from nowhere, I mean from nowhere to become the deputy governor so he definitely, you know, who Akeredulu, even after, in his grave, who Akeredulu, so what I expect to tell the new governor of not-to-do is to continue the good work the chancellor, the late governor Akeredulu has been doing. Don't forget that people from those states voted for what they mean by Akeredulu, not your care either, Tewa, but the constitution must take its precedent, must take its, must find its way. That is what happened yesterday by, you know, not in the setting of space in governance, somebody must be there. And Akeredulu is now the governor of those states, continue from where Governor Akeredulu stopped. So, what I expect him to do is to give him one of the, you know, best befitting period, number one. Two, don't rubbish his image or his legacy project. Most of this project, even those ones that are going, I will encourage him to continue and ensure that he commissioned all of them in the name of Akeredulu. Most of his, you know, reform in all those states judiciary also should, you know, continue. I will encourage him to build one of the best icons in Akweru for him, name it after him. And I'm sure Akeredulu will be smiling at him in his grave. Most of the courts should be renovated. Most of the courts in those states, you know, should be upgraded. And many more things to do for him. And I can only wish the new governor all the best. Now to the federal governments, I'll call on them, especially I know Ashuradu knows, if you look at Ashuradu's, Mr. President's press release yesterday, you know, it makes sure that a lot of things, and it shows how quality of a being that Akeredulu was. The federal University of Akweru, Kuta, can be named, is a suggestion, which, you know, by naming it after, let's come to Akeredulu University. That would not be a bad idea. Any other universities that you think is good for him. And I'm sure most of the universities, the faculties of law, will also do something to motorize the late, you know, NBA president, deputy governor. So these are things that they can do to, to motorize him. At the same time, life must move on. Governors must move them. And his family also should be remembered in terms of, you know, kind them along in governance without, without, you know, particular, you know, people who are showing tendency of improv within his family. But it can be one or two people to work with and let them see that it's a respect. You know, the teller just left them one year, and if the new governor is lucky enough to be elected, he asked enough, enough time to be elected. He will be, he will be, he will be, if possible, he is able to contest and win his elector. He can govern on those days for the next eight years, adding to the one Akeredulu left. That's going to be nine years. So he has to be magnanimous and make sure that his boss name keeps winning this short span of one year that he is going to, you know, govern on those days. But in the, in the meantime, when these problems were going on, you know, those Akeredulu left power, did they sign these, did they do that and all that? I'm sure there must have been some bad blood between camp A and B, whatever that might be. So what do you think the new governor should do to be able to bring all the camps together? Because a family divided cannot stand. So what are some of the things you would recommend for Ayate Tiwa to do, to unify the people, first of all, and then move forward from there? Let me tell you about governors in India. I've mentioned a few things that if governor Ayate Tiwa is listening, he will be from there. It's very simple. Camp A can be from the time Akeredulu was pronounced dead. I can tell you there's no camp in the middle state again. From the time that gentleman who was sworn in yesterday as a governor of those states, everybody will fall on them immediately. That's the power of the governor. If you don't have a governor, that's not what was, I'm just laughing at that, I'm sorry with your respect to your governor Fubara. You take time, you take time and I'm reading the question. You can see what I'm trying. All of the presidents, they are shadow, presidents, shadow, and governor's shadow. He's from New York. There's no camp again. It doesn't start time talking about camp. All those camps that you are seeing, all of them, you can see what most of the staunch enemy of Ayate Tiwa were in the home, singing praises on him. I want to take a pound of flesh. I want to take his pound of flesh, you know. That's what we're hoping was not. But out of that, they were falling. All of them, including the speaker. You can see the speaker, the speaker that wanted to be fishing. We'll try to decide it. Look in that place. It's a place. What are you talking about? It controls the resources of the states. It's the chief security of the state. It's the number one gentleman of the state. All seven, nine million population of those, good people of those states, it controls them. He's not the party leader in those states. He helps the government. He wants to remove the speaker now. He doesn't, he doesn't cost too many things to remove the speaker. Majority of, maybe out of all the, even those who are signing pitchmate notice, some of them must have been signing. Some of them have been without this money, prostrating. The only list which was, prostrating. Please, I don't know. It is the speaker that is out. Even the party chairman, engineer, so what is his name? The party chairman. Who is running around? He immediately will be begging. So don't let us tell them about camp. Camp is no more. He's the government now. He wears the crown now. He holds the sword. He can cut anybody, but he should not do that. Yes, that's what I was going to say. We only do that. He should not do that. He should not do that. He should remember that although people voted for Ruthie Mead, he should not do that. I'm not encouraging him to do that if he engaged in, you know, vicious campaign, plus politics comes with pain, betraying. If he engaged in that, the consequence would be larger. He should not do that. He should be magnanimous. He should call everybody, have a stick under him. Both leaders, his national assembly members, he should discuss with anybody. And move forward to get somebody who wants to impeach me. They are not impeaching me. They are doing that. Those ones. But I can tell you, there's no camp A, camp B. Okay. No, nobody. Nobody is good. So now that's dependent on what we're going to do that issue with Mead. You're all the leader now. That is a governor. He's not acting governor. He's executive governor now. Executive governor of Ruthie and Dostoe. So he saw that problem there. So I'm going to ask now that he is the governor. Can he fill the shoes of Akira Dulu? And what would the people of Dostoe be expecting from him? Because for a long time, about a few months, they did not have a governor before he was even sworn in as the acting governor. Now that he is the executive governor of the state, what can the people of Dostoe expect from him? And how can he move on Dostoe forward in this time? The few things he can do, obviously, he needs to be man of himself. He has his own agenda. It's now the image of Odo people. There's a poverty in the land. He needs to make sure that Odo people smile again. He needs to make sure that business in those state tribes, he needs to make sure that the governance of those states, the resources of those states, is prudently used for the benefit of Odo people and make sure that the resources and economic viability of those states tries. It's not going to be fair for us to say that he needs to still run in the shoe of Akedi Dulu. No, he needs to do his own things. Now he is in charge. He needs to come out. Maybe some policies that he feels is better as a deputy governor might not be able to express it. Now this is the opportunity. In terms of SMEs, in terms of the business community in those states, in terms of markets, in terms of hospital health, sector, what is going on there, I noticed that most of the primary schools were not well programmed. It can build more primary schools, build more secondary schools, good primary healthcare centers, good inner roads, good pipe bomb water for Odo people. Odo is very rich. He is a holy rich state. He can do a lot of things. He needs to be man of himself. He needs to be man of himself and do something good for his people. He doesn't necessarily need to run on that care. Akedi Dulu is gone. Forget it. He's gone. It's just his legacy that we just have to reach a little bit. But he's gone. So we must move on. Is there any talk about a deputy yet or is he going to do a one-man show till the end of this tenure? So the deputy governor? Yes. Yes. That's his own priority. He has the right to choose anybody he wants to be. He will nominate anybody as a deputy governor. But our advice to him to consult widely is from the interstate, where I'm not sure they would use any governor for a very long time. I'm not sure they have any companies. Between the central and the south or north, Odo knows where Akedi Dulu comes from. So I think it is a good opportunity for him if he's able to manage these people. Because the agenda where he comes from has never produced a government. The Agola tribe is the former deputy governor. He didn't win. You know, the battle is always between Akedi Dulu and the eastern agenda. So now he has the opportunity to showcase himself within one year, make sure he's able to bury himself within the people, the grassroots and you know make himself as accessible, come out with a better program to sell himself, then the larger people can also you know produce the next government in the next four years. So it's not a lonely journey for him. He has a lot of power either. He has a lot of tax. Yes, he's sweet, but he needs to you know roll up his sleeves. Not laughter. Not laughter is scary. Okay. Actually he needs to work hard. Don't forget that Hita Odegege there from PDP is there. He and Akedi Dulu. Let's part of the fact that Akedi Dulu was actually on crime is a battle we have for both of them. You know, the disparity in number between both of them is only about 10,000, 15,000 votes. Not much. So not to talk of either, who is you know, you know, if a new card in the game. So he's calling to you know, Hita Odege is a national figure, he's seen a bit of Nigeria also. So he needs to start working immediately and don't quote anybody or go on a vengeance mission. We wish him well. We wish on those people well and time shall tell what will happen. We do hope that whether he continues and contests and wins as governor after this tenure or not, we hope that this one year will be a very productive year for the people of Andu state. Yes. So let me add one more thing also. On the deputy also, he needs to go back to probably also just to go back to the Akedi Dulu's local government or the federal constituency to bring another person so that it can you know, show you know, some you know, some good will and love to people of Akedi Dulu. It can be someone credible for Akedi Dulu side. Yeah. You know, we have a lot of people there, the likes of Begele, who have crossed the likes of so many of them there from Akedi Dulu for space. And take one of them as a deputy. So we wish him luck in finding his deputy and moving on this, moving under state forward at this time. We want to say thank you for joining our program and thank you for talking with us. And we pray that the legacy of Akedi Dulu will continue to live on. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me again. Yes. All right, we've been speaking to Mr. Dr. Ibrahim Otinowa. He is an investment and risk expert and we've been talking about the legacy of Akedi Dulu and the new dawn for Aida Tewa, who is now the executive governor of under state. But that's where we wrap it up on today's show. The final Thursday in 2023 and tomorrow is going to be the final breakfast show for 2023. Yeah. Well, it's been a very lovely ride with you guys. This speech should be reserved till tomorrow. But it's so lovely knowing that you're always there. Thank you for being a part of our lives till this moment. By the way, that tomorrow will come. And until then, I still remain Yamgul Akedi. I am Rume Paulson. Have a wonderful day. Bye for now.