 my grandfather had animals and he will kill them to eat. Was that a cruelty? Yes, for the animals, yes. Him really taking care of the animals for all their life, killing them to chew that shell? I think it's cruel. Like if I had a bunch of human beings in my backyard and I treated them amazingly and they had incredible amounts of well-being and I went through and shot them all in the face and cut them up and ate them, would that be cruel? What about the plants then? One second, would that be cruel? I can tell you why it's not cruel for plants, very easily. But why isn't it cruel for animals? No, I'm not saying it's not cruel, it's cruel. So it's cruel. When you go to the store and you buy meat, do you think those animals have been treated in a cruel way? Probably part of it, no. Are you assuming that everyone who's actually buying a meat is literally lining up with the animal quality? Yes. If you don't know, that's because they haven't let the public know about what goes on them. What do you think happens to animals so you can eat them? Trust me, I have an idea. You would agree that when you purchase those products, here you go. You're paying these people to be cruel to the animals so you can eat them. And then we have a problem because you can't assume that every single person, this is what they're doing. They don't knowingly, with intention, they are by supply and demand. 100% they are. So what will be the best option? Be vegan.