 Now, today on the video, Roger's gonna co-host with me, but he's also, he, Roger is also, not only gonna co-host, but attempt to produce, at the same time, a feat that has probably been tried before, but... I mean, you've been doing it. Look, I've produced an image. A screenshot. Can he show screenshots and discuss the news of the day at the same time? I produced some toast. The answer may surprise you. I so stole that from Dateline. I use it. Then we had to find another catch. I thought that was Prager. Was that you? That was me. Oh, okay. It was me and Dan. It's like, let's just start stealing it. It's like... The answer may surprise you. We, we joked like, when they say that, it's probably nothing. Oh, you and Dan. Okay. Dan Mitchell, right? Yeah. Dan Dan. Dan Dan Fielding. Dan Dan Noodles. He's teaching. I think he was a PE teacher the last I talked to him. No, wait, the last I heard, he was doing the, uh, twit game show or gaming show or something. Well, well, well, ladies and gents, dare we start early, since nobody really knows... Yup, why not? We'll three minutes really, we'll three minutes really bend anyone out of the ship. Break the bank. All right. Here we go. Oh, I didn't test this. Hold on. That sounds better. I replaced the wire. Maybe that's why. Oh, nice. All right. Here we go. Daily Tech News Show is powered by its audience, not outside organizations. To find out more, head to dailytechnewshow.com. This is the Daily Tech News for Thursday, July 28th, 2016. I'm Tom Marra joining me today. Producer Roger Chang, sitting in the co-host seat. Yes. That's good. I'm sitting in the same seat I normally sit, but now I get to be on the show and not in the after show or the pre-show, but in the show show. Yeah, but on the back of the seat, instead of just saying producer, it also says host. Yes. So you had to, you had to get some work done on that seat. That's all I'm saying. It's a host too, sir. Roger is going to attempt to show screens in the video while discussing the news of the day, not akin to, not unlike walking and chewing gum at the same time. Which I can't. See if it works. See if I choke. Let's take a look at the top stories. Why is that not? Okay. We'll talk to you later. Samsung reported its strongest earnings in more than two years. Revenue was 50.94 trillion won, up 5% year over year. Operating profit was 8.14 trillion won, up 18%. The mobile division accounted for more than half of the revenue and profit on the backs of strong sales of the Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge. Samsung expects solid sales in Q3 with the introduction of the Galaxy Note 7. So, interesting thing is Samsung having a good earnings report based on mobile phone sales while Apple, while doing better than expected, had a weak report based on mobile phone sales. The key difference here, Roger, I guess is that Samsung released a new phone more recently than Apple. They released a new phone and they've made it compelling enough, I guess, for people to upgrade. It's one of those things where I think when you have... I don't want to say... Would it be right to say Samsung is a bit in the second place category when it comes to smartphone mind share when it comes to people like thinking of... I don't know. That is one of those things, because you said mind share, right? Market share, definitely not. Samsung is the number one worldwide. No doubts about it. Samsung fans, Android fans would argue that only Apple fans think that iPhone has the mind share, but you do get people talking about Apple. It's hard to say who has the major mind share here, because if Samsung didn't have the major mind share, why would it be selling so much? I mean, people have to think about the phone to go and want to buy it. So, I'd argue that maybe that's not true. You know, and I think it's a very interesting... I mean, the smartphone market is a very thin margin place to be. And Samsung does have the benefit of being a big, big large corporation that can kind of leverage volume. I'm wondering if it's due to them pushing into emerging markets and selling more of their wares, because traditional like developed economies like in Europe and North America. I mean, at this point, they are saturated, but you do have emerging markets where you can potentially maybe make more selling, maybe not the top end, but probably the lower end. Is it possible that the Galaxy S7 is a better phone? You know... I mean, that's one of those value judgments I don't like to make, because I always feel like it may be a better phone for some people and not for other people, and I'm certainly not trashing the iPhone 6S, which I think is a fine phone. But there has always been a lag in features from the iPhone, and Samsung's ding has been, ah, it feels cheap, it's got some weirdness, and the S7 is one that is universally praised as not having the problems that previous Galaxy S phones have had. It definitely does not feel cheap. I mean, I'll give it that. And it does look a lot more refined than the original galaxies that they pushed out before, like even three generations that just look like another plastic Android phone you would get as part of your contract from Sprint or T-Mobile or whatever. You know, it could very well be. It could be features that could also be the time, the cycle correctly where, hey, everyone's in for a new phone. Is it two years? Two, three years typically for a phone cycle for people upgrading. It's lengthening too, so yeah. And I think the cycle of having a Galaxy phone in the spring and a Note phone in the fall helps them quite a bit as well. It makes one wonder if maybe Apple shouldn't have more phones, but Apple says no. We thrive on very simply, I mean, they have two phones now where they used to have one. In fact, if you count the SE, which you should, they have three phones now, but they put them all out at once. That's hard to say. It's a good sign for Samsung, but at the same time, I don't know if it definitely means that Apple is kind of in the declining phase. No, I think that's fair to say. What this says is good things for Samsung, not necessarily bad things. Exactly. Yeah. Daimler revealed the Mercedes-Benz Urban E-Truck in Stuttgart on Wednesday. The all-electric vehicle has a total admissible weight capacity of 26 metric tons for U.S. people. That's 29 tons. It has a maximum range of 200 kilometers, making it practical for the end of the delivery, the short haul run at the end of the cycle. It has a battery called the Fuso Cantor E-Cell. That is being tested right now in six-ton Urban E-Trucks by several companies in Europe, including Hermes. Daimler expects wide-scale production of the Urban E-Truck in the next decade. So, you know, they've got four or five years. They need the price of batteries to decrease, and they need the productivity and performance of batteries to increase. This, I mean, what you were saying for the last section of the haul, this would be perfect. In fact, this would actually be a perfect solution for delivery companies like UPS and FedEx, where they oftentimes move packages from one local warehouse to another. So instead of you could literally have this as part of their kind of internal system instead of having like interstate semi, you would use one of these and you would just pull it around. Currently, they use a single cab truck to do the same thing, but if they can get it all electric, I think it would definitely help with urban pollution, which is one of the issues a lot of cities have had with buses and heavy trucks is because of the diesel particulates that come out, even with the updated emissions. It still poses a bit of an environmental hazard for people, especially because in an urban area, people tend to live in a much denser surrounding area. Yeah, and noise too, I think is just as important for people. Trucks are loud in large part because of their engines. Yes, and especially in a hilly city like San Francisco, can you imagine the regenerative braking when you're towing? As soon as you said that, I was like, wow, they're going to need a lot of torque from these engines to get up the hill, but you're right. The regenerative braking makes up for it on the way back down. Hyperloop One announced it will open its first 105,000 square foot manufacturing plant named Metalworks in North Las Vegas. It will manufacture parts for the company's initial test platform, Devloop. The facility is also going to house a propulsion lab being used to solve some of the engineering challenges that face the platform. They did not announce when Metalworks would officially open. Hyperloop One seems to be gaining the edge, at least back to mindshare, by showing progress, showing a test to reporters, even if it was a very small test. Announcing an actual factory is going to open, even though it hasn't opened yet. Both Hyperloop Transport, the one in California, and Hyperloop One have been talking to various countries in Europe. I think Hyperloop One talking in Russia, Hyperloop Transport talking in Slovakia, if I remember right. Slovakia. Somewhere in Eastern Europe. But neither of them are producing anything yet. Hyperloop One just got a little bit closer by saying we actually have a plant. The plant actually starts producing something. That will be material progress you can point to. However, they won't even tell you when it's going to open. So this is all still very touch-and-go. And Hyperloop One has their own off-stage drama with their former CTO, or COO who is now suing them, and they're suing him back for saying he's stealing ideas and all kinds of drama around that, too. I think... Let me put my face back on. So I think one of the things is these things are great at is producing PR videos that you can show. And I think what you were saying before is very important. You want to give the impression things are happening. Granted, perhaps not actual products are coming up, but you want to give the feeling that there's activity. It's not a languishing idea or a product or a project. There's momentum. There's energy. And as long as you can get the excitement around it, even if it's on, say, a governmental level, that's beneficial because the more people they get interested in this project means that the possibility or at least the likelihood of getting perhaps grants or loans or the city's like, hey, you know what, let's make a Hyperloop between Reno and Vegas so you can connect your two factories. It'll be awesome. We could transport products or half-welded items between. That seems to be what Hyperloop is trending to be used for most often as cargo rather than passenger transport. I think if they can... I would not put it out of the realm of possibility that they try to do just a trial on between the two cities because that is a fair distance. It's in a state that already looks like it's already amenable to Elon Musk and his ideas. It's a proof of concept. Hey, look, our factories are shuffling things between them using our technology. Isn't it great? Imagine what your city could benefit or company can benefit. You could call it the 21st century pneumatic tube. Back in the 1800s, early 20th century, you had the little cylinder in your pocket. Chicago had a very extensive network that allowed you to pipe it from one end of the city to another. Can you imagine? It was larger than a post-standard email letter mail through a tube. It'd be awesome. Even if Las Vegas isn't necessarily the most sensible logistical place to start a test, the fact that you have that Reno plant and Hyperloop 1 in Las Vegas as a test bed kind of is fascinating to me. And Musk does things like that because they make a splash and he's got the money to try it. Don't forget Hyperloop originated with Musk. He's the one that put the white paper out. It's other people who are taking the idea forward. I like this flight of fancy that you have put forth, Roger. I think it's pretty interesting. 21st century pneumatic tube. Breaking news, folks. Just posted 13 minutes ago on her medium. Veronica Belmont, host of Daily Tech News Show on Mondays, has announced she is joining the GroBot team as a product manager. So her bot love has reached fruition. She will be working with an actual bot team, GroBot. And the reason I mention it is that she has told me she will still be able to host the shows on Mondays, and they won't always have to be about bots. Although we'll have an in-house bot expert now, which is fantastic. Yeah, it'd be awesome. GroBots might be a good point. That's GroBots. Security researchers like Tavis Ormandy and Mathias Carlson of Detectify Labs have both reported finding security holes in LastPass. A LastPass spokesperson told Wired it verified the reports and issued fixes. Carlson reports he received a bug bounty of $1,000. Some have said that seems low for something like LastPass. Keep in mind LastPass didn't have a bug bounty program. So they just gave him something anyway. Users are encouraged to update LastPass on their browsers. You should always be updating if you're using a password manager like that. Tavis Ormandy took a little more dismissive tone than Mathias did. He said, do people use this? Because I just found a bunch of vulnerabilities. But he did responsibly disclose them. And LastPass says they fixed them. Mathias, on the other hand, said, found a problem with the extension. I notified LastPass about it. They fixed it. I got a bug bounty. It's all good. So my take on this has been there is no more thing to worry about with a password manager than has ever been. Darren Kitchen says, I don't like the idea of having all my passwords stored in a cloud where people can get at them because vulnerabilities do exist. He said, it is in fact better than the option of using the same password everywhere else. He's like, I get that. But there are better ways to manage your passwords like KeepPass, which keep them out of the hands of other people. However, he doesn't even use that because he says, even then, he's like, what if I screw up? So there are good reasons to say I don't like password managers. However, compared to what most people do with a password manager than the typical practice, which is why somebody like Mattias Carlson says, I still believe that this is probably a decent thing, which is why I want to let them know about bugs. And you're already seeing a lot of headlines that say LastPass broken, LastPass vulnerable, LastPass subject to hack. Everything is subject to hack. Everything finds vulnerabilities. From what I can see, this is the system working where security researchers find vulnerabilities and report them and they get fixed before they can become something that is exploited in the wild. And you know, this goes without saying. There's no such thing as zero risk. There's no solution out there that will prevent you, you know, vault-like security on everything with the convenience and the ease of use of a password manager. But you know, things like this do occur and it should at least in people's minds highlight the need for things like two-pass authentication or two-factor authentication where you do have a fail-safe just in case something does happen, where you're not completely, you know, exposed if something does like this happens. Like, you know, just imagine like having a gate in front of your house store where you just have two forms of security just in case. Not, again, not to say that using something like LastPass is a bad thing, but keep in mind that it's not foolproof and you should have contingency plans just in case something does happen. Yeah, absolutely. And even Matthias says, you know, this is something where if you have two-factor authentication on, you will not have the vulnerability I found. So you should always have multiple ways of securing things. If there's second factor or two-factor authentication available, you should always keep that in mind. You should always enact that. So, yeah. I try to walk the balance with these stories because I don't want to sound like, hey, everything's okay. Don't worry. Put all your passwords in LastPass because there are risks, but there are risks with everything and finding vulnerabilities makes me feel better about products in general because that means they were found. It's when you don't know that a vulnerability has been found and it makes it into the wild and gets exploited that causes the problems. Exactly. Yeah. And I'm not saying that that can't happen with these password managers. It absolutely can, which is why you need to take the proper measures that Roger's talking about. Yeah. And I'll just one thing. One last thing. Security is an active process. It's not something you can just set it and let it go and cruise control. You really have to be, you don't have to be on top of it at 24-7, but you do need to keep it in mind at least once in a while. SoftBank reported a 0.2% increase in operating profit to 319.2 billion yen as wider losses at Sprint were offset by solid earnings in SoftBank's own telecom business in Japan, the SoftBank branded telecom business. Sprint did say they increased post-paid subscribers and they expect to be cash flow positive in the next financial year. Don't forget, SoftBank announced plans to purchase Arm this month. CEO Masayoshi Sun said a lot of things about Arm on the earnings call, including I'm telling Arm management, let's increase the number of engineers, let's boost our indie spending and make investments proactively. He also said, from now on I plan to spend 45% of my time on Sprint and another 45% on Arm. In other words, 90% of my time is going to be spent on the new guy and the thing that's been losing money and the rest of you are doing fine. So you'll get 10% of my time. It's a very interesting, kind of balancing act he has here. I think he sees a lot of, I mean, Arm has tremendous potential. He wants to bring it into the internet of things, which is a place it was going anyway, yeah. But into his pocket, ideally. Sprint, you know, he could potentially leverage both into a single win if he can get some sort of synergy between the two plans. But at the same time, you know, if Sprint continues to go on a upward, not upward, but I guess say, I wouldn't be fair to say a bit of a roller coaster, but it has been trending downward. It's been in trouble. Let's not mince words. They were the once the number three carrier in the U.S. and they're now the number four carrier in the U.S. within the past few years. SoftBank picked them up at the nadir of their development and they've been kind of coming back. SoftBank says it's a V-curve. We're at the bottom of the V-curve. We see signs of that, but it's going to come back up. We'll see. A lot of money, a lot of headaches, a lot of plate spinning. Yeah. It's two big bets. One seems really good. Yes, Intel is doing a lot with internet of things, but Arm is very well positioned for internet of things and that's where Masayoshi-san wants to take that. Great. They are making money. They will make even more money for SoftBank and that will help offset the big risk of sprint, which most people think is not a good risk. That it's a carrier that is bleeding money and doesn't have the resources to be able to catch up. I mean, T-Mobile barely had the resources to be able to catch up with AT&T and Verizon and it's still questionable whether they'll actually make it. They're just sort of staying right ahead of problems themselves. And so it's a very tall order to have SoftBank do this as well. And you have investors who wanted Masayoshi-san to pay off a bunch of debts and instead he took the money he got from selling off other acquisitions that they had owned and put it into Arm. So now the shareholders are upset and they'll be looking at sprint. Yeah. It's sprint definitely is under the spotlight. However, I think SoftBank as a whole will have a very, very cute we'll have a very, very keen eye put upon them over the next several quarters. Do we need to disclose, Roger, that you and I were once SoftBank employees at ZDTV? Yeah, that's like 10 years ago. Is it like a five-year limit? Yeah, I don't think so. I don't own any SoftBank stock or anything like that. CNET's Aaron Carson reports scientists at Belgian University have created a machine that turns urine into drinkable water and fertilizer. Now, obviously, this could be very good in rural areas, places without access to clean water and that is one of the things they're also talking about maybe using it at bus terminals and airports to provide potable water but it can also be used to make beer. The machine uses solar energy to heat the refuse that is collected in a boiler which is then passed through a membrane that separates the water from nutrients like potassium, phosphorus and nitrogen and just takes out the H2O. It may sound gross to you, but what comes out of it is just water and all the water on earth has probably passed through at least one animal at some point. I'm just saying. The researchers harvested 1,000 liters of urine at a festival in Ghent, Belgium, a music festival and they intend to turn it into beer. I mean, back into beer. This is a bit of the Holy Grail, right? Like being able to... This has been done before, but making a system that you can set up anywhere like install anywhere that doesn't have a high infrastructure cost to create potable water would be a huge boon for areas that traditionally have not had access to a large supply of potable water especially in arid regions where you can recycle the water, solar power anywhere along the sun belt of the planet You could also, if they can make it mobile, like you could put it aboard a transport aircraft and drop it off during a natural disaster, it's like, oh, hey we need fresh water, we had an earthquake the plumbing lines are all busted, water is hard to get. It would be awesome. So the question is, yes all of that is true, the technology here is very interesting, very similar to Bill Gates and his reclamation projects would you and you're not a beer drinker but were you a beer drinker would you drink the beer that had been made from the water that had been reclaimed from the Ghent Belgium music fest? If I could take that water and maybe pass it through a couple of Brita pictures I would drink it. Why would you have to pass it through a couple Brita pictures? They just passed it through something way better than a Brita picture. Because it's psychological Tom it has nothing to do with fact or science when it goes through this picture it somehow magically gets better You want to see it go through the filter You don't trust I mean that's what they do on the space station What do you think they've been guzzling? Yeah, man for sure. 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They just opened a new office in Cambridge, Massachusetts The program was launched at Moffett Airfield in the Bay Area last year so they have a western coast presence already now they want to have an east coast presence and it is meant to connect Silicon Valley innovators with the military in order to advance technology in the Defense Department so they have added Jeff Bezos and Neil DeGrasse Tyson to their Joint Defense Innovation Advisory Board that board already has Eric Schmidt Reid Hoffman of LinkedIn fame and retired Admiral William McRaven on the board it is headed by Rajiv Shah formerly from Palo Alto Networks and F-16 Pilot they are requesting $30 million budget for this in the next year and they have now announced they are going to break it into three teams there will be a venture team which will take already existing commercial tech and try to get it influenced or adapted to the battlefield there will be a foundry team whose job is to take tech that is not fully developed yet and try to say hey what can we do to develop this for the military while it is in development they will include an engagement team that will introduce innovators to military problems and the military to entrepreneurs in other words trying to say okay you are not in development on anything yet but we would like you to be here are some of the problems that we need solved they have already got one program called the commercial solutions opening that is being conducted with the army they posted problems on the DIUX website asked companies to submit comments and they are going to take pitches just like venture capitalists take pitches to the DIUX board that we mentioned earlier to see who gets some funding from DIUX the first group on contract is Halo Neuroscience and they are the ones testing the headset which uses non-invasive electrical stimulation to improve the brain's learning skills so Roger what do you think of this I mean there has been plenty of public-private partnerships in the past this is one that is supposed to in theory say hey innovators help us make the military better it is not that much different than DARPA Grand Challenge in that respect but it doesn't seem to be catching on and yet they are not giving up they are going to push it even more I think it is something that the Pentagon has been wanting to do for years or perhaps even decades but part of it I think is there is kind of a muddled muddledness about exactly how this agency fits within the overall scheme of the Pentagon for example DARPA we know invests and research into new technologies for the warfighter whether it is autonomous robots for example the vehicle challenge aviation sensor capability and stuff like that I think there is some confusion over exactly what DIUX does differently than DARPA and I mean chief amongst these like we were talking before DIUX is kind of like a tinder for the Pentagon it allows a particular problem to interface with the potential solution maker in the private sector it has a lot of the elements that it needs but I think it doesn't have a clear cut purpose or mission statement that everyone can see and say ok I get it I understand it this is what we need to do moving forward and part of it is just because the Pentagon is a huge giant bureaucracy there is a lot of overlapping footprints in that realm but I think it is pretty cool what is interesting is that for the longest time these technologies at least in the sector were going the other way GPS, radar, a lot of the stuff was claimed like a defense contractor would develop something for the military and say hey wait a minute we can use this for the private sector as well but it is very interesting with the shift in the past 20-30 years of doing what is referred to as COTS or commercial off the shelf technology to lower the costs of acquisition, implementation and ideally roll out of a lot of things that we take for granted for example tablets the army for the longest time is trying to figure out how do we integrate tablets in the Marine Corps how do we integrate tablets into a squad size unit so we can give them information on demand real time and have it worked effectively in that space but not necessarily with a bunch of add-ons and stuff that don't necessarily make it useful for someone in the middle of the firefight it makes sense to me on paper you'd want to encourage that you'd want to give more information right so when the iPad comes out and the military says finally here's the tablet that we can use I know that's not exactly what happened but just for the sake of argument let me oversimplify it you might then say well shoot the one thing that it doesn't do is this I wish we would have been able to tell someone how do we go and tell someone hey can you make it also do this kind of thing a kind of security protocol in it can you make it ruggedized whatever those concerns are in the development cycle so I get what DIUX wants to do it doesn't seem like there's motivation to get Silicon Valley on board with this maybe that has to do with the ongoing distrust between the security apparatus which isn't the military it's the NSA and the CIA but maybe there's just a little like you know I just don't know I'm sure I want to get involved in any of this right now but in fact that 30 million dollars is not a big pool to draw from and so it strikes me that they're trying to take a venture capital approach to this which is smart because that's the language that Silicon Valley speaks but they're not providing venture capital backing they're not able to say we can continue to fund you we can do series B series A which is in fact what other units of the government do there are venture capital arms in Silicon Valley that do exactly that they go and invest in companies part of it might just be an institutional legacy I mean the military has had such a long history of interfacing with industries but they do it with multi-year multi-decade contracts that are worth in some cases tens of billions of dollars and to be in a space where you need to be a slight footprint an agile might be something new and it needs to be something learned by the various groups and agencies which is why the DIU-X exists perhaps more as a proof of concept to convince other brass members hey this is something that is worth funding let's put a feeler out there see how this works initially if we get at least a decent response we can come back and say to the rest of the defense department hey look this actually works Air Force Navy, Army, Marine Corps, whatever would you would you be up for me slicing some of your budget off so we could roll more money into this so instead of you know piling money into a single project that sucks in billions of dollars we could take those billions of dollars and maybe spread it a little more uh diversely and get things that we actually need in real immediately rather than the things that are 20-30 years off yeah and that is not to say I don't think either one of us are suggesting that the only way to do it is funding there are other things DIU-X can do for example they helped make hack the sky possible it was a June 24th event at the Naval Postgraduate School that brought hackers together in a hackathon allowing developers and coders a chance to play with the largest swarm of unarmed uh I'm sorry unmanned presumably unarmed as well unmanned systems ever assembled so it was like hey hackers you want to play with a bunch of UAVs the largest ever assembled come to our event uh 319 people RSVP peed and they had a great hackathon so there are non monetary things that they can do as well that will get people fired up and be advantageous to both the participant uh and the military but I'm not sure you know hack the sky was not a DIU-X operation it was something they helped connect people with and maybe that's what they would be best at and if they really wanted to do a funding thing that should be a separate thing that is operated as a venture capital arm and I was thinking like you know typically having had to deal with the Pentagon before for a segment or two um and trying to get through their PR relations department is a big mix of bad and good it's it's they have a well they have a well-funded they have a well-trained staff but at the same time they have they have to navigate this labyrinth Byzantine maze of who the right people you want to contact regarding such and such I can see this is where the DIU-X comes in super handy you want to interface with someone hey I got a new thing that might work out well for the F-15 jets simple product a hundred bucks a plane super cheap adds tremendous capability who do I talk to I can go through the DIU-X and they say well okay we'll interface you DIU-X I can interface you with this general or this lieutenant or whatever in this agency and you guys can talk you know like basically it's a matchmaker it's a matchmaker yeah okay it's tinder for the Pentagon alright let's get to our pick of the day Jesse aka hometown rival reacted to our brief discussion on a new feature rolling out to selected Android devices that helps block spam calls and writes hey I know of a great third party solution called HAYA H-A-I-Y-A this free app will identify potential spam callers which will show as a block of orange with the big warning icon while your iPhone is ringing the Android UI is a bit different from the screenshots in the Play Store and then Zach has another pick in the same category called extreme call blocker there are a number of settings for the app he says but I have it set up to pick up and hang up on any number not in my contacts this completely eliminates any residual voicemails from the spammers it also loads the FCC spam number list so these calls are automatically blocked we'll have links to both of these in our show notes at dailytechnewshow.com send your picks to us folks feedback at dailytechnewshow.com you can find more picks at dailytechnewshow.com our message of the day comes from Andy who writes oddly having Nintendo switch back to cartridges which is the rumor of the Nintendo NX would make me like the idea of the NX even more in the mobile gaming world size is a big factor optical discs are really not practical small discs don't hold very much the spinning draws a lot of power load times are slower and scratching is an issue full size Blu-ray discs only hold 50 gigabytes compared that to SD cards that can hold 512 gigabytes in a thumbnail size package and you have to wonder why even PlayStation and Xbox are still using discs and I guess they're cheaper download is better than optical if you have the disk space in the internet but then you lose the option of sharing with friends or reselling I'd still rather have a cartridge because the on device memory can be used for other things and I have the option to let the kids or wife play the game on their own device and not on mine with 4k video becoming more accessible I can even see flash based cartridges becoming more of a thing instead of using optical discs for video anyway Andy says good move I hope it catches on Nintendo you know download is worthy everyone wants to be at least in the industry because you eliminate the cost of a physical medium but also you get more control over where that content goes right you can you can have a DRM system whether it's like an online store like steam or or you just you don't even I mean the dirty secret is you wouldn't even have to put DRM on these things I don't think it really prevents that much pirating but putting it in the cloud makes it so people don't keep it on their drive and then they don't worry they just like well it's in the cloud I'm not going to bother with it they don't try to copy it because they have access to it the problem is what he's saying is you don't always have the space or the storage you don't always have the bandwidth necessarily those problems may go away but in the meantime you've got this very good interim solution and I would argue that people still like to own things and this is a better thing to package in with you know maybe some collectible toys and books and stuff like that possibly possibly I think I think that I think there's a I'm sure I'm going to get strong up for this there is a belief that you have that you need to have the ability to resell a game after you're done playing it and I think that is a mindset that's probably needs to go away within the it's great for the person who has the time and contacts to be able to take advantage of it because you can definitely afford more games in that situation overall it does mean prices are higher because companies know they will sell fewer because there are used games out there theoretically the prices might drop however now that they've got everybody used to paying that much for games I don't know whether they would although a lot of people that only pay a small amount for used games wouldn't want to buy as many games at full price so that would be some pressure to bring it back down but it's an entirely different economy at that point and it doesn't allow you as someone who's like hey I'm willing to hustle and go out and sell my used games to take advantage of that and get a discount it's it's one of those things I used to be one of those people I used to like sell everything like I'm done playing that I sold my Dreamcast and all like 30 games I had for it I remember I went to the store so what are you going to give me for this all of this it's at 80 bucks alright give me 80 bucks I think that's cool but it's you know once you get to a mindset of like okay it's everything's in the cloud you know what you could potentially go into a subscription model like you do with Netflix you get you get 10 games a month and that already exists I mean Xbox and PlayStation both have subscription models they don't have all the top games in there but they have the basis for doing that and you know it has it too it's a generational mindset and you know maybe it's another group of kids that come through before people finally accept okay this is a much better way of doing it yeah well you may be right you may be wrong thank you thank you Roger Chang for joining us besides producing this show what else you got going on I do EMW with you I have a child and I'm on twitter as I mindlessly tweet things that amuse me and that is twitter.com at jolly roger jolly roger and he is jolly most of the day hey thanks everybody for supporting the show there's lots of ways to support it if you're willing to keep us going because we don't take advertising we want to be influenced only by you the listeners and we have some perks for that as well including a Slack channel for our top contributors and other perks for people including business cards and fun stuff like that you can find out all about it at patreon.com we also have a new show that is just the headlines less than 10 minutes a day at dailytechheadlines.com our email address is feedback at dailytechnewshow.com 51259daily that's 5125932459 catch the show live Monday through Friday at 4.30pm eastern visit our website dailytechnewshow.com back tomorrow from Orlando and CreateCon with Jocelyn, Dills, Garrett and Jury talk to you then yeah I'm not sure what happened there that was really weird I have a new cable and this happened to me at Scott Johnson's place hold on let me tell you something frogpantsnetwork get more at frogpants.com oh you were getting the bleed over it sounded kind of like this totally sounded like a horror like fun house oh good awesome I hope that worked well yeah that was great good job on the research for the DIUX that was fantastic Tinder oh uh Hypersuits can you arm me now stop blowing up the text messages Justin, Robert, Brian, Brian, Bruce, Wooden, Garrett, Winesirl um titles Tinder for Pentagon Shark Tank, D.O.D get it you pitched to the Shark Tank there should be Shark Tank Pentagon Edition uh can you arm me now it's like ties in the arm with SoftBank with this main story can you arm me now all water on earth has been peed in it's true it has playing the hypercard go to the bathroom I'm thirsty that's funny gross but funny the Pentagon is the new Pipe Piper allusion to Silicon Valley all hype in no loop very funny the Internet of Arms SoftBank's Arms we did something like that before DIUX is the Tinder for the Pentagon D.O.D wants some Bezos sounds kind of dirty Pentagon X I like Tinder for Pentagon or Shark Tank but I would change it instead of D.O.D I would change it to Pentagon Edition I like Tinder for Pentagon Tinder for the Pentagon that one works for me I'm also trying to get these cranked out well I'm trying to replace the Frogpants and Diamond Club things that didn't work Bezos Bezos Bezos Bezos Bezos ehhh you say Bezos and I say Bezos he kind of reminds me of Harry Shear if you shaved Harry Shear's head like if he was bald Bezos does Bezos does they should do a movie called Rocket Man where it does like it's a little documentary of how Bezos Bezos and Musk are like striving to become like space entrepreneurs space entrepreneurs also I think Amazon should implement some sort of quasi military rank system like they do in Scientology you have like the CEO has epaulets and like little like ribbons and medals for the best CEO ever award I like it man I'm not even joking I like it it's because I was watching this thing on the secret the secret history of Scientology music and I thought it was the funniest thing and they had the picture of the Sea Org thing oh god it's so funny the Sea Org is the best like where do you get that who makes that I mean like do they sell it to civilians like uniforms like that you can buy uniforms there's a uniform shop right down the street from me you know costume shop I would want it like a red jacket kind of like the ush or the movie theater but black cuffs black lapel epaulets like grand edmerl thron oh wait no he wore white didn't he I thought he wore black and so uh cover for me I'm going to try to fix this ok so people in the people in the audio stream will likely hear me trying to fix wait have you seen the movie the master wait which one which movie is the master Shane like I remember the ABC show the master where the old white guy played like a ninja it was really hokey the martial arts were kind of non-existent in the let me see the master master movie let me see fun things of wait it's the one from 2012 starring Joaquin Phoenix Philip Seymour Hoffman and Amy Adams a veteran struggling to adjust to post-war society a leader over religious movement known as the cause hmm interesting no I haven't seen it I'll have to watch it I'll have to watch it I've just been watching documentaries instead of actual movies real movies I think part of it is because I like knowing about people's real real people but like kind of the real history behind things one of the best ones I saw was the source or the fat source family was like this new age cult that was started by this ex marine and that real yeah it was on Netflix and it was a very interesting fascinating story this guy was a Korean war veteran and it was in the Marine Corps and he basically kind of somehow fell and fell in to and established this cult based on him how do you fall into a cult based on yourself well it's like you know like it's like when you get enough people who strike like I wouldn't say groupies but hangarons and stuff eventually something yeah it just kind of coalesces like if enough of your of hangarons around you started you know creating the cult like the merit militia yeah they would have your beard and glasses and everything oh that's frightening the merit militia shirt alone fright me now I get what you're talking about we're coming to Tomtown Shane's documentary I did not know Shane May documentaries he is he's a documentarian but overstating it I believe Shane is an award-winning documentarian oh even better it's better than those non-award-winning ones flipshane.com well I am sorry that I've been so ignorant of your of your work Shane sure someone's told me but somehow I'm probably, oh being Elmo nice wingspin dancing in Java that's the first Andrews I've always wondered Shane how do you exactly pick the matter or like the content you or the story you want to do is it based on suggestions or is it something that you have an idea and like I wouldn't really want to do this I think I did see Elmo it's been a while though yeah I think I saw it when it it came out on Netflix I think I watched it a year ago um sometimes I've heard others I pitch others I suddenly access to it's pretty cool documentarian I like being Episcopal I've always wanted to do a documentary on the life and times of tech TV but like all the sort of details that no one ever knew no one ever hears about like how Tom Merritt and Eileen Rivera hooked up oh that's the tame stuff I'm talking about everyone how everyone else hooked up all the all the all the all the crazy parties and shenanigans lots of shenanigans it's kind of funny because it reminds me a little bit of how a lot of the early Silicon Valley companies when they got started and they were stacked with people under the age of 30 there was a lot of this you know there's a lot of the same mindset energetic young attractive people hanging out with other energetic young attractive people doc Udramidi Dairy dr. Udramidi the camel of documentaries yes let's say uh a documentary based a documentary on by committee or maybe a documentary of a committee what other great stories would there be I know there's a short one on I don't know unless you live in the San Francisco Bay Area you might not know that on Tuesdays every every time around noon at noon there's a civilian civil emergency test that goes on and uh they someone did a short documentary on it and they put it up on YouTube but I was hoping to do a longer more in-depth one on that going yes I have seen going clear my wife loves for some reason she loves anything on Scientology because she thinks it's just so kooky giving her my mailings I told her that you get it she's like oh my god it's so funny I haven't gotten a magazine in a while though those are usually the best ones uh oh have they gone online have they done online that's a good question maybe they have to offline you online you use our check your fate maps I'm amazed they don't make that little attachment for your google maps thing oh catch your fatins they could totally repurpose the pokemon app can you imagine you just basically put in front of someone and suddenly all these fatins appear around someone's head they're real I told you alright I'm uploading now everything should sound better on the audio version apologies video people I'm sorry it's my fault I don't think she has she just saw the documentary there was um she's been really into this youtube channel we just found a couple of weeks ago called this exists it's out of Toronto but uh the sky basically covers all these things that have or did exist for example I never knew about vaporwave until like last week it's like wait a minute vaporwave is a styling of music based on remixing uh essentially what is commercial someone's branded kind of uh elevator-esque or apm style kind of music and then remixing apm so basically any licensed music you get from apm or something that's bed music like bed music got it bed music stuff and turning it into a kind of more of a trancey uh electronica form music taking elevator music and making trance out of it is that roughly it? kind of but you also have to mix it with the right visuals so when it first started um they it was something called uh c uh it was at least the way I understand it came out of something called uh c-punk so basically mixing c-shanties? basically mixing all the visuals of the 90s internet kind of era like you remember when you used to paste craft on your website like dancing palm trees and stuff like that kind of integrating that along with the music uh into that and it's funny because they they gave a very interesting example of when um what's her name who was the one who was married to not bobby brown uh chris brown oh wendy houston no was it chris brown? bobby brown was wendy houston sorry yeah chris brown uh the one uh chris brown chris brown I'm so bad with names I wish I was just better um was chris brown does anyone know what's her name you know what let me just search for c-punk and then s and l uh rihanna oh rihanna oh oh so remember rihanna was on s and l and she did like shine like a diamond song and then they had that weird kind of everyone's saying that this is like weird windows 95 screensaver like video on top of well that was an example of c-punk that was c-punk and then katie perry doing the dancing charts with the trees as part of her videos with the beach balls and stuff that's also kind of a take on c-punk which was a thing that was big for like uh half a year and that's the thing these things these memes they're not memes but these movements aren't very particularly long like they don't go back decades they're relatively recent maybe as far back as 2008 2010 but it's really it's really it's really fascinating and so there's an offshoot of vaporwave which is just like that where you take 80s 90s internet kind of visuals and you mix it with the kind of music and that's called simpson wave where you do the same thing with the same music except you use simsons clips from the simsons tv show i love all of this it's it's fascinating that's what i love is like what my mind was totally blessed okay ring out to make sense oh and bio cow by the way on the lag bio cow was already saying what about simpson wave so there are fans daily tech c-punk i just love this stuff that's why i used to read 40 in times all the time yeah 40 in times was good an omni actually how i got started reading boing boing they used to cover more of that they still cover some but all right that is it for this episode this early episode of daily tech news show thank you all for joining us we will see you at the regular time tomorrow but from orlando and i think len will be illustrating as well remotely he'll still be in Ohio but everybody else will be in the same room with me we'll see how that works thanks everybody bye