 It's a trading Simon Michelle from fixed securities is joining us Simon good to see you now this slight risk averse mood I mean it seems to be supportive of bonds right now But with the US out of trading overnight looks like those US yields have drifted lower Yeah, good afternoon Leanne and they certainly have drifted a little bit lower And I think that does reflect the fact that you know the we had Martin Luther King holiday And you've got the inauguration on Friday So I think people would be very keen to hear what the new president has to say after that event Yeah, absolutely. That is the big talking point right now capital economics I was saying looking at a note earlier saying they doubt that the rally in the emerging market Dollar denominated government bonds will last much longer. Would you agree? Look absolutely. I think you know a lot of this surgery we saw late last year was really speculation It was really down to what? Some commentators believed Trump would act on firstly a lot of fiscal stimulus But there hasn't been a lot to back that up So I think you're absolutely right Leanne people are looking for certainty They want to see whether the the the comments are going to be matched by actions Once Trump holds hands hands the presidency. All right We're looking for all of that and we'll look forward to talking later in the week as well Simon Thank you so much for joining us. Good afternoon. Thanks Simon and Michelle joining us there from fig securities or that sort