 85 is still pretty high what got you to the 85% probably how I was raised like seeing like all the good like my name was the main one that made us go to church Oh, it's just seeing Anna's name. Her name's Carolyn Carolyn. Nice. Nice. Let's see like all the good. She does I know my way out got everything on my car. I should be all day Eric you've been a life saver. I appreciate it. I'm gonna milk out the next couple of hours. Yeah It's not necessarily true. So I am not just full disclosure. I'm not with that guy. I don't subscribe to any kind of like Church or anything like that. Yeah, I'm really interested in just talking to people in like a really fun way I think there's a better way to have discussions like that than screaming out them more than a sign He said since he was a freshman here in 2005 they're coming every year. Oh, really? Really? I didn't know. Okay I'll make her my calendar, but I want to know what you believe. I want to know why you believe it And I'm not trying to sell anything. I'm tied by the way Oh, Aaron with the hands of thunder. All right, let's see. Aaron Is it E-R-I-N or A-A-R-O-N? A-A-R-O-N Let's go. All right, Aaron My name's Ty. Is there anything that you really believe is true? You want to talk about that for a while? Anything that you know, you can't be wrong about Ideally in like a supernatural sense like karma re-information God, I know for one day is that I don't believe in transsexuals. I know like like just like I am confident that you don't believe in transsexuals, but I meant more like a claim that we could both Tackle together. Does that make sense? Like what do you mean? Like in danger. So like if you told me I believe I have three dollars in my pocket like I believe that you have three dollars in your pocket Like I can't really like gently challenge that at all. Like that's pretty obvious that you believe that I guess what I meant is there is there something that exists? Or something that doesn't exist that we could both talk about? Like a god? I do believe there's a god. Okay. Probably like a Do you mind if I ask which god we're talking about? Christianity. Christianity Christian that's a big stuff. That's a big umbrella. What what Christianity are we talking about? Baptism So baptists, yeah southern baptists free will Free will baptists. Yeah, there's free will baptists. That's what I was raised on. What's free will baptism? Just it's basically just like any other kind of bad So I grew up military I've been everywhere from california all the way to georgia and we've been bouncing back and forth between Black churches, white churches, baptist, Methodists who could name it and every single church has its own belief but It's very different from every other church, but they all believe that they have the same one that's general So I guess what I mean like is what is like some tenets of like the free will baptist church? Gays wrong, transsexuals wrong You must follow god like obviously you have to Preach to him you have to believe in him No cursing. Okay. So it's like conservative christian. Yeah, it's very conservative conservative Okay Aaron How confident are you that this god's real? Sometimes I question myself. Really? Yeah, sometimes I do like that's good to question yourself. You gotta look at it from the beginning But My god I feel like a fight club just happened. No, you're right Sometimes I question it, but then I think to myself like The beauty of this earth can't just like happen on its own. I don't believe that But how confident are you safe from with a scale from zero to 100 where zero is like, I'm all doubt 100% I'm all confident zero down 85 85 Mind if I ask you a question what would make you more confident like what would get you to like a 90% Probably if I have like a one-on-one experience with god like you hear people other people have have you had that yet? No One experience would make you go higher. Yeah, like I've never had that experience like hey, I spoke to me He told me this I've never had 85 still pretty high. What got you to the 85% probably how I was raised like seeing like all the good Like my nana was the main one that made us go to church. Oh, just see you know Nana's name her name's carolin carolin nice nice Let's see like all the good. She does like she's like the the newsletter maker. She like goes the food drops Okay, she does a lot of good stuff. Yeah, okay. Would you say that's the main reason like got into your 85%? Yeah If I'm just throwing this out So for example, if you said I really like chips No, if you said chips are the best thing in the world Yeah, and I'm like my family challenged that having tried pretzels like that's what we're doing right now I'm wondering like if you're and I'm not saying this case, but it say your nana wasn't as nice Would that affect your confidence and got it all it probably would really she's like someone I look up to She's the one who like raised me to believe that way. Okay. Okay She's the one who raised me to be kind not yell at people like these guys over here to respect other's beliefs Okay Is it possible that if you're raised by someone else? Who was very very nice, but worshiped different God you would be believing in that God to an 85% confidence right now I'd say could be possible I've noticed once it's like I've moved out and I've been looking at things from this perspective I still take it and I still bring it back to what I believe when I was younger So at the same time, I believe that if I wasn't raised like that I was raised. I'm different. I may believe You might be a little bit, but you may not. Yeah, I may not So maybe the way you raise isn't the reason that got you to This belief that you're like for example, you could have been raised in a belief that wasn't true But had just as much confidence that it was but because you're raised by someone else Yeah, so like like even me being a Christian, I still like read about judyism I hear what you're saying Like muslims really But if you could be raised by someone else and believe something that's not true based on how you were raised Maybe the raising Yeah, it's a reliable way to get to a 85% confidence Yeah, come on like I do my own reading. I like do my personal research. Yeah personal research For sure Like what? Read the bible obviously And just to read up stories and read about experiences people have with them stuff like that Are there people that read the bible and come to a wrong conclusion of what gods make churns? Yes Like the bible you can interpret in different ways. Yeah, usually they interpret it in a negative way Yeah, but and there are people who are really confident that that's the guide. Yeah I'm wondering then if I could do personal research and be wrong Is personal research a good way to be 85% confident about the god? It depends on your mindset. I feel like if you want him to be a kind god You'll find the research. It's like just anything like the medias twisted. Like you'll look you'll have that point of view Like yeah, the point of view but you're looking at Do you have the right mindset? I think I do How do you know that? I don't know that it's just my own belief Is there a way that you can test it? I don't know if you know it I think that's a fair answer, but if we can't test it and you're not sure if it's right or not Let's just find you're at 85% of confidence that it's true. It's my own faith. I guess it's faith the foundation of this Okay, okay. I think we're getting to the real stuff now. What do you mean by faith? Just my belief that there's someone out there watching over here. Is that how you define it? Yeah That there's someone out specifically your god because I'm watching You're outside I know you don't mean me. Okay, so faith is someone's out there watching us Someone watching over us Watching us And that's what's getting you to the 85% confidence that god's true. Well, I feel yeah, I'm wondering um Can people use faith? to come to A god belief that's not a true god Right say so. Yeah, could I could I be a person from India and believe through faith that this new exists because I believe that someone's out there watching me and that would be vision But you wouldn't agree that this news real, right? I like no, but I still have respects brothers perspective and they can believe whatever they want I believe they have that right. I believe what I want. They believe it there But whether or not it's true or not. Yeah, would you say vision is true because someone used faith to get to that conclusion? I'd say like I all stem from one place a long time ago, like there was one and like Just like languages people like develop their own interests their own cultures They may have a different name for it. Maybe like a name for different gods But yeah, what if they argue actually it's the christians that got it wrong We had the original and ours they can argue all they want necessary beliefs I'll have my own so how do I how does someone who's in the middle determined who's actually right or not? They'll have to look at both sides look at both points and just have their own conclusion And they would have to use faith to get there. Yeah, but the issue is um It seems like I could have faith to believe in a complete or for example, how about this Could someone have faith that there is no gods at all? They could yeah, it's there if I could if someone could have faith that there's no gods whatsoever and someone could have faith that there is a god How do you tell who's right? There's no way to tell who's right But they can't both be right, right? There's no way they but they're both using faith. Yeah, what does that say about faith as a system to come to a true conclusion? It's more based on emotion Is emotions a reliable way to get to a true conclusion? No, but we tend to rely on that Is that a good way to reach a true conclusion you said? emotions Yeah, I know our emotions a good way to reach a true conclusion Could I it's not no are you justified at 85% confidence? using emotions I'm not but I still feel that 85% that's not a problem. You can definitely feel that way But I'm wondering whether or not you're justified at that Probably not What would justify you at that 85%? Probably having that long one experience Or like some people die and they get resuscitated and if they have that experience like they saw Getting that one to one direct site. Yeah. Can I throw something at you? Pretend I got a coin It's a quarter of a ton of trip. I patch it can't see in the sun. Oh, maybe I dropped it No, we try flipping again catch the back of my hand right be heads of tails And I don't know if it's heads or tails right now. Do you know if it tells right now? No, okay, so Um, I can go to science and ask them. Hey flip a thousand coins come back to me with reports Let me know if this coin is heads or tails and they come back and they say it's 50 50. I'm like, that's not good So I need more evidence, right? And I could say well, I was raised to believe that coins would always be heads up, right? But that's not a good way to determine if this points, but I have a really nice on It's like, yeah, but it doesn't really affect this point I could use faith To believe that the heads point that the coin is heads, but it may not necessarily affect whether it's true I might be right, but it's not a good way to get there not a reliable way And I can use my emotions to get there, but again, it doesn't really affect it I think the best way to figure that out is you know looking at it that one-on-one experience, but until then I don't know Isn't just an option. It might be the best answer. Yeah, like you don't I don't know until you don't know until you die You don't know if you until you enter an afterlife or you don't enter an afterlife Until then I might even I wouldn't even argue that I'm 85 percent justified I see you're cool. Yeah, yeah Aaron, I appreciate that talk. Thank you. Thank you very much. Did you enjoy the chat? I did. Cool. Thank you What do you think? Do you have enough conclusive evidence to get you from 98 percent? You know how to say it? I don't know right now, but like do you think position is justified? No Aaron