 We had a three-part round table conversation that some of the challenges you may be experiencing you're no different than me There is someone there that looks like me like representation matters Having come from a time where I was the only black person in the building till today where we've got diversity Unlike we've had in the past. It's exciting. I am so excited to be here with these beautiful young ladies today for the Black history month round table and I would love to have each one of you introduce yourselves. I'll start with you Brianna Yes, I'm Brianna. I'm a group sales account executive, so I joined the team back in January 2020 my primary focus is Working with companies and organizations here across Tennessee and coming out and enjoying an experience here at Nissan stadium with the Tennessee Titans Whether that be for company purposes client employee entertainment or just spending time with loved ones here at our building So that's our my primary focus and what what is your journey to get here before joining the organization? Yeah, so I always knew I wanted to work in sports Just didn't quite know how I was gonna go about that right so during undergrad I took an opportunity to be an operations assistant did that really loved it that kind of solidified my passion of Man, you know, I'm addicted to this. I'm addicted to being in sports So after that I took an internship with a another NFL organization for one season and then January 2020 my first time in Nashua I applied to join this team and the rest is history. Love having you What about you Jihari? So I am like I said director of Titans Foundation and community programs So everything I do my role is Centered around community impact and how the Titans show up in our community on a local level But also on a statewide level and also looking at all of our NFL League initiatives when it comes to our Corporate source social responsibility Our foundation is is is plays a huge impact and a huge role in how we show up for our fans How we show up for youth and families and so I have the privilege of being able To connect the dots and really find opportunities for us to go deeper and wider in the community I have a long history and Non-profit and community work so prior to joining the Titans I spent about 20 years in the nonprofit sector And so I never imagined myself working for an NFL franchise team, but I love being able to connect the dots for that social responsibility piece and really giving Companies and organizations like the Tennessee Titans a chance to just show up for their neighbors. Love it. Love it Valeria What I do for the Titans is I do all legal and risk management with the focus primarily on transactional work So all of our event agreements all of our revenue generating agreements our sponsorship agreements That's primarily my area. I would say over the past few months I've kind of really served in the capacity of a generalist and so it's just anything that any of our 25 Departments our business units need any help with Whether it is business advisory Getting advice on like how to have these conversations with partners or clients To anticipate any risks before entering into a deal and then on the back end like reviewing Contractual languages to ensure that the company is protected from a legal perspective Before coming to the Titans I worked for the NFL for a few years, which was completely different I did not work as an attorney, but I did have some type of legal capacity I worked in football operations and I represented the NFL against players for on-field violation and so When I worked a few games on the Titans I worked about three games last season and when I seen the job opening I was like, you know what this is an opportunity that I can't miss and I took a leap of faith and I'm here now I Am so glad I'd get like goosebumps thinking about it to be sitting at the table with like three beautiful black women Having been in the position where I was the only black woman for I won't say how long I've been here But a whole lot of years like 23 You started at three years. Yeah, I was three and so then there was like it was first black child But it feels so good right it feels so good to be sitting at this table and there are others in the building that aren't necessarily Sitting here, but to have someone that you can connect with and it's it's natural, right and so Just talk a little bit about how it feels and anybody can jump in how it feels to not just be a black woman But a woman in an industry that's dominated primarily by men and what that feels like and how you navigate that and you know Just just coming from that perspective. I mean, it's challenging, right? I think we all three can agree on that. There's times where maybe I feel like Being a woman and being a minority woman at that I'm afraid to maybe be vocal if if times are Challenging or I might not agree with something and it's a little Nerve-wracking to allow yourself to be vulnerable in that in that capacity But I will say to your point Tina about you know us three at this table Yourself included and then all the women at our organization that are not here. I mean y'all are trailblazers I mean, I'm young in my career, but to be able to say hey There's you know Tina. I knew a Tina that did this I knew a jihari that that did that, you know Valeria reminds me of this and then to look at myself and be like okay My dreams aren't too big and my aspirations aren't too far and so to be able to connect the dots on that I think speaks speaks volumes about where we are right now at this table I just you know hearing you talk about that brings tears It makes me really emotional Because I will honestly say that in my career oftentimes I didn't have someone that I could go to Understood some of the challenges I had and that was so on top of being frustrated About what was happening or what you were dealing with there was a second level of frustration That there was no one in your circle of influence that could help navigate that situation And so I appreciate being called a trailblazer because oftentimes you don't see yourself in that light You just you go to work to do a job and to do it well, right? Yeah, but when there is an opportunity To to help bring somebody up. I think that's what we all have right. We all have that responsibility to Bring somebody behind us up to help them get to wherever it is. They want to go in their journey So I I really appreciate that. Yeah, I think you know Tacking on to Brianna's comment. I mean, it's it's one thing that I really appreciated about Coming into this organization is that you know, of course we are all minority women I'm a mother as well And so when I thought about taking this job I was really nervous because it is a male dominated industry and I was really nervous about if Being a mother being a working mother at that if there would be the same type of flexibility The same type of grace all the things that you think about Tina your mom, you you know And you and you Josiah like came through the ranks with you but thinking yeah But thinking about like if that is something that I'm going to have to worry about and I I was Thrilled and just so grateful that my first week when I walked in and when I started, you know Already had a relationship with Tina, but to see you know, Tina continued to remind me like We're a family-friendly workplace like you can do this I shared this story with Valeria and Shannon that my first week, you know You're going around everyone's office and you're kind of introducing yourself you saying hello And I felt so comfortable walking into she and his office because she had a picture of her kids on the wall And that was the first office. She was the first office that I really Saw where she really just showcased her kids and showcased like I am a working mother and so It does become When you're looking around the room, you kind of are able to just make these kind of subtle eye contact moments of like I got you we're in this together And I love that, you know, if I'm having a stressful day or if I'm having just a day where I need to just let loose and Just you know that I can call on some of the women that look like me in this workplace And then I know I have Multiple women who look like me in this workplace and who can share and some of the sentiment and the experiences that that we go through as working women I Think for me if I'm being honest It's like fighting this imposter syndrome, right because it's like you're in this role and you're in this position and you're in this industry And you fulfill in a capacity that traditionally and historically did not look like you and so constantly you're walking into Your office as you walking into like the day trying to tackle on the roles and responsibilities And you're questioning and you're having insecurities like am I fit for this role? Like I don't I haven't seen anyone to come before me And so that adds on another level of challenging because then you know as trailblazers We're kind of really set in that position to be responsible for the next class of women that's gonna come in And so I just appreciate the camaraderie and the family that I have here their times. I'll go to y'all Like cuz I'm dealing with problems everyone's issues Everyone's contracts day in and day out and it's different different topics different groups different peoples and different issues Right after the other and so sometimes the person that's carrying the weight of the organization needs somebody to You know to talk to and you ladies have been mad and other ladies throughout the building and so I appreciate that while we are women working in a male dominated feel that we are there We show up for each other and we are available to assist and we meet each other right where we are And we're here because we're supposed to be here That was a I was many years ago when I worked in a different department I had gone to one of the league meetings where everyone comes from around the league and I was the only woman there, right? Black or white only woman, right? And so they went to do a social outing after our meeting and they had Golf outing for all the guys and when I was looking for my name I didn't see anything and I finally went up to the organizer and I and I said well, where is mine? They said oh, we've planned a spy day Day and the opportunity to go off because I'm not here And like I want people to see me as someone who is deserving of the space not Here because I check a box not here because they need to check a woman box Or here because they need to check a black box, but here because I deserve to be here So when you think about like being deserving of that oftentimes people Young people see you and see you as arrived You are here and here and here like they don't see the the heart times and things that you went through to get here Talk a little bit about some of that adversity and how you handled it and what you learned through that process Still handling it I Could say this transparently I Felt and I felt miserably throughout the course of my career when I tried to get into law school I did not get in the first time I did my score was not high enough and I knew then I was like maybe it's not meant for me to be a lawyer And then I took two years and then got into law school And then when I graduated law school then was my my battle would pass in the bar I took sick and so it took a few years for me to get back on track and pass the bar and then Right whenever I get you know into the career then I graduated law school at a time Where it's like the economy was like literally going through a recession And so it was hard for everyone to find a job and then that question came like is it meant for me to be a Lawyer and so how I sustained that it's just like keeping that vision in front of me And knowing that isn't attainable and knowing that it is okay to fail and not giving up being open to pivot Like I said before I came here I was in a non-lawyer role so you have a person who is Licensed to practice law, but it's not practice practicing law So being open to pivot whenever the opportunity that presents itself is not ready for you But you are and just extending yourself enough grace to know this is my end goal This is what I need to do to get there But I know it may take a little while longer it may take a little more effort than normal But to still keep that in front of you. Yeah, I Mean there's been several conversations throughout my career where I'm expressing interest that I have in in sports and in careers and jobs and just things of that nature and literally having Men tell me oh women can't do that or or that's not made for a woman to do and so I see as you know the course of the past couple years women are doing these you know Groundbreaking things and opportunities and in my head. That's that's fuel to the fire It's like oh, I remember when someone told me that I wasn't meant for a woman and look at this girl now Look at her. She is rocking it And so it it makes me take a step back when there's been times where I'm like oh Maybe I feel this way because I'm a woman or maybe this is why I was given this task in this role I alluded to those things that I heard earlier on but now that I see just the growth it keeps me going it keeps me You know Like no one's gonna tell me I'm not qualified to do something I end to your point checking a box or hitting a quota. I Want you know women to just get the job because they're the most qualified like you know all power to having women in roles Love to see that I'm the biggest advocate as we all are for those But you know Some of these opportunities have granted people saying oh she just got it because she's a woman and it's no She got it because she's the best person for the job. So I used to say it was funny I used to say I'm gonna take one for the team if I got to be the only black in the building that allow Represent as well, but I remember when you talk about Being in places where they they felt like or they told you that it wasn't the right position for a woman Like I've experienced that personally I know when I was interested when I started working with the organization and I learned all the facets of the Organization and one I was really interested in was player development now it's player engagement and I expressed interest and I was always told No, nope can't do that. No can't do that and one particular instance The position became available and I went to the hiring manager and said I really want this job and they appeased me and Interviewed me and asked me to go downstairs and bring somebody else up and I did it unbeknownst to me Two minutes later. They introduced that person a male as the director of player development And so in that moment, I'm like damn. Sorry I'm like that was a slap in the face Because I have to work with this person Be I need to really stop and think what's important to me And if I if is this the place I'm supposed to be like am I supposed to be here because I really thought I was prepared But what I learned is the value and losing right there was so much less than in losing I had so many opportunities to learn so much more That what I learned from that is I wasn't ready then and so by taking that step back and reevaluating what was important in my life Five years later the team called me I didn't ask them they came to me and said are you ready to be the first woman director of player development in the NFL? And so that moment showed me perseverance and how you work through something and how you have to determine What you stand for who you are what it is you're hoping to achieve and what you're willing to do to get there So it's like not about you telling me no or you telling me no It's me believing that I believe there's a yes, right? And so when we think about Like there's a lot of weight On all of our shoulders for various reasons whether it be your communities your sorority sisters College students your little nieces and nephews you have a beautiful daughter and son like there is a lot of responsibility Sitting at this table like talk a little bit about how you handle that and what message you have to those What what do you say to your beautiful daughter? You know? Yeah, I you know as you are talking and sharing about your experience with Player development, you know I started to think about I've spent a lot of time in nonprofit and a big chunk of that has been centered around youth development and I think sometimes we Under estimate Even though we may think oh no one cares about what I'm doing or no one's noticing what I'm doing But I found that oftentimes you'd be you'll be so surprised at the person that you are Inspiring the person that you have impacted the person who's aspiring to a role like yours And I never fully Saw the value in that until I had a daughter and then once I had a daughter You know, I would work with young women and they would ask me about oh, mr. Are you you you're an executive director like wow like I want to be that and I'm like That was just a job for me Like I didn't realize that it was that I didn't realize that people were watching and so I think that is the one thing that I always Constantly remind myself that Someone is watching Valery you mentioned this about being an example and that you're we're paving the way for the next set of women who are coming and That is something that I always try to remind myself is that someone's watching you're paving the way for someone else You're kicking down a door for the next woman for the next black little girl that needs to that wants to work in sports and so I try to go approach everything with this mentality of I Want the next little black or brown girl to be able to say I'm here because a Tina knocked down this door a Brianna kicked over this barrier or Because an Amy Adams strong, you know was the first woman whatever it may be. I want to Be able to leave that legacy I want to be able to leave that notion with black and brown little girls of you can be the next Like I may be the first but there's always a next after me And I want you to be that next and I want you to learn from what I did and come in ten times better be the next bad Ass in this role And even for my daughter, you know, who knows if she'll work in sports or even if she Love sports the way that I do Not But I do want her to think of her mother as someone who like you said never accepted a no, but also Found the found a way to encourage herself and use that confidence to say, you know what I Can do this can't be I can't be ex. I can't whatever she aspires to be and to know to not let that imposter Syndrome sink in and to find ways when those little voices do creep in to find ways to negate that and say, you know what nope I'm not listening to that or I'm not listening to the person that's trying to tell me no It's so funny because When I was you know Raised in my son. It was very similar. It was like how do you teach him to have the confidence? He needs to be what he wants to be when he sees things that aren't right and you accept them So you have to like like in that moment to that whole parenting aspect of it. I had to change my mindset To make sure that I was showing him how to be confidently whoever he was you guys may have heard me use the phrase train I'm how to treat you That is like it's not it's that that phrase was very just authentically created when I finally realized who I am It wasn't because I'm trying to be somebody and you will respect me a certain way It was more so I finally have what it takes to respect myself this way And I'm gonna give you your respect and all I ask is the same every turn And so I'm training you how to be better at treating people the way I want to be treated and out the way I'm gonna give you what I'm gonna give you in return And so when you're talking about like oftentimes you don't necessarily see that people are paying attention It reminded me my son's when he was in college He was trying to figure out what he wanted to do with the rest of his life and didn't want his mom who worked in sports to influence that And I'm like I can help you. He's like no, I'm good and so he had gone to his academic advisor and he was talking to her about it and He kept saying to her like but my mom could help me and I won't I don't want my mom to help me And and so finally she goes well who is your mom? like who are you and He goes my mom works for the time She's Tina and he goes and she goes tuggle your mom is Tina tuggle and he's like yeah She goes I was a student at University of Alabama I tried to get I wrote my final paper on her like I love your mom and his he comes back with like I can't get away from you I'm trying to be my own person But your story is always far-reaching and it was in those moments that you realize like As small as you might feel you're larger than you think you are you know I Think it's the education factor of People just knowing they have a safe space in sports. I was reading something the other day and In my role with sales black women are the most underrepresented in in that industry and in that department and so you think of a male-dominated space and Then you take another layer of the onion and it's still You know even even less than in a sense and so I think about it how many how many black women are looking at a job application and They're reluctant to apply Because they haven't connected dots of maybe someone who's in that role and and so that's where your story is that you shared of You know connecting the dots and having someone that you can relate to and that inspires you is so critical because There's a lot of people not taking the leap of faith because they don't think they have a place here but I'll also add to that Brianna also Feeling empowered because even in this circle. I know that there have been times where I'll use valeria as an example Well, I've had conversations with valeria and I'm like I don't think I can do that because I'm black. I'm this I'm that whatever and Valeria is like no Look yourself in the mirror. No, she's probably like no No, and this is what you're you're gonna walk into his office and this is what you're gonna say She's like, where's your PowerPoint your heart and so And she's like get yourself together because you deserve this and you are qualified and but you need people in your life in your circle that especially Other black women who understand what that struggle looks like you need people in your circle to be able to say to you No, stop talking down on yourself. This is who you are You possess all of the qualifications and you in the words of Beyonce. Hey me But you deserve all of those things and you don't have to limit yourself or make yourself small Because you're afraid that you're going to be perceived as too big So being mindful of that and putting people in your circle who are able to speak life and empower you in that sense Goes a very very long way when you talk about how do you overcome those adversities? And even the one thing I will say is oftentimes when you're in a position to your point Valeria like I've been here as long as I have and there's still so much learning to do And so you never really arrived like I don't I don't believe there's it here doesn't exist You're always like you just constantly chopping wood and trying to get there and But you oftentimes need somebody look over the handsome will be like am I doing it right am I heading the right direction? But it's really like it's really Fulfilling to be able to have those conversations and to have those people I will tell you I never forget when when Amy took over the organization I was so excited because I was like it is a woman like we got like I told everybody with ears They're like we know we can see it But it was like also very motivating also very encouraging to see someone and and she took it and she owned it and she Had to be Kind of like a lot of the stuff that many of us are talking about she was a minority woman in that room And so that adversity is like like far-reaching and I think I learned a lot from her Seeing her start to where she is today in that level of confidence that she has in the position and the power that she holds And I think that's I think that's something we can all do regardless of the level or how long we've been within the organization Like we can all own those things. I Guess what if you're talking to a young lady What that, you know, what what advice are you giving her you're talking to young Valeria who you know Doesn't have this round table conversation to listen to inspiring stories like what advice are you giving her be yourself and Just love that authenticity When I showed up in the room and applied for many jobs I showed up representing something that I thought was going to get the job or Someone that I thought was going to be accepted and doors shut in my face And before I even reach for the handle You know like the the commercial with the state farm But it wasn't until and I'll say this Not until I actually got into sport that I started to be Recognized and appreciated and valued and started to receive these opportunities because it took that long I think I had been out of law school almost ten years It took that long for me to realize Valeria show up as Valeria and whoever cannot receive Valeria It's not meant to be in Valeria space And so the minute I realized that I was enough and I appreciated my backgrounds my adversity my obstacles Whatever I brought to the table even if I didn't have a seat at the table that that was enough for me And so what I would tell my younger self is just be okay with who you are Love that person and and bet on her take risks after risk and just continue to be authentic Well, I was gonna say I would probably tell little jahari All the things I would probably tell a little jahari girl do not be afraid do not be afraid like I can recall So many times That I have walked away from opportunities because of fear because I left fear creep into my head and Get all in there and do all the things And I'm so thankful and fortunate that I did not let that happen Walking into this opportunity with the Titans, but I would probably tell her do not be afraid do not Think that you do not deserve to be in these spaces in these rooms on these platforms in these Orbits all the things like don't be afraid and to take risk I think sometimes as as women and especially black women we are We are position or told that we're supposed to get in one lane and stick to that lane and When things start opening and start happening for us we start to question like well, wait a minute I'm the only one in that lane So is this really for me and I think we just we we get comfortable in thinking that we're supposed to remain low-key And we we have to get out of our own heads with that I would agree to Both of which what you're saying. I would tell my younger self don't hold back I felt like I only gave myself 50% of who I am and I I nickname myself a walking minority and I'm a woman I'm a black woman and I identify as gay and so I'm like How much am I being too much like? You know Am I gonna be today and how much what percent is that gonna be and it's just like who cares like I would This is who you are right and it's okay exactly and there would be times where when when people got to know me They're like, oh, we thought you were super reserved. I'm like, I wish you would see me at home Because that's that's far from the truth And I think I just had to like show up for myself a hundred percent and not 50 not 75 and and not just around The the ladies in the office or or maybe some of the guys that I got close with like show everybody your colors You know do it respectfully of course, but like don't be afraid to just be a hundred percent Brianna So yeah, if I could rewind I would be like just do it girl. Is that train? I'm how to treat you, right? Authentically you I mean that's what and I and the the like pivoting just a little bit. This is great Right, we're having this conversation and we can all identify with something that we're all talking about but in order to move The needle this is Black History Month. We are talking about being authentically who we are But the work doesn't just start and end at this table with these people When you're thinking about having conversations that are difficult whether it be with co-workers members of the community When you're talking to you know ticket holders like oftentimes there is whether it be microaggressions or there are times Where the conversations turn difficult talk a little bit about navigating that like in a way That's a respectful but being true to who you are in the hiding behind Being afraid to have those difficult conversations. I Mean I'll start I think you know I saw a lot of in my role I've spent a lot of time working on the new stadium and talking to community members about the new stadium And what that means and how it could be a great impact And through a lot of those conversations, of course, you know, there are a lot of Disparities in our city whether it's housing education you name it Transportation all the things and especially when you start to talk about the effects for Black and brown people and so there are a lot of tough conversations that I have to have and You know, I when I started with the Titans I came in I drank all the Kool-Aid blew me up y'all. Yes two-tone all the way But I think you know when you talk about having hard conversations and being realistic and being Genuine and really trying to think about What that means for the people outside of these four walls like people who have never gone to a Titans game or who have never experienced What it's like to work for NFL franchise team. I really had to think about In my role in my position How can I be of service to someone else who has no affiliation with the Titans? Regardless if they come to a game or not, how can I use my role to move that needle forward? How can I use my role to have a greater impact but to really connect people to genuinely what we stand for as an organization? And that's tough because when you are a minority and you work in spaces like we do Oftentimes people look at us like Yeah, whatever like, you know, and so you have to really find the space of like no Let me connect you to the good things that we're doing here as an organization. Let me let me really Inform you educate you Let me try my best to connect you with some of the things that we are happening that we are doing from a perspective of we genuinely want to show up for our communities But I also on the flip side of that I also recognize That I can't sit silent at the table when I'm in these rooms with our senior leadership And I'm in the room with other department heads or just our folks who do all the things that they do I have to make sure that I'm using my voice and speaking on behalf of you know of the communities that I serve and Really using that as a privilege and considering that to be a privilege and Thinking about all of the ways that we show up in the community How can I help us do more and be more? And so, you know, it's a it's a heavy a heavy heavy load to bear However, I know that we've all been put here to really think about like the next black lawyer that we can hire the Next, you know, how can we open up these floodgates? How can we open up doors and pave ways for? For us to show up for black and brown communities in a more impactful way Yeah, and those conversations can be challenging be challenging They can be you know, they can force you to think beyond just yourself I'll I've had I've had to have conversations and then I would go home and say I wish I would have said it This way, you know, but in that not being afraid to go back and say Hey, I know we talked about this two days ago, but no, let me text you right now Let me let me let me put this on your radar so we can revisit because I think that's the hard part too And I think having a certain level of comfort, right? It's it's as long as it's coming from the right place. Yes Is that's very important because you can't I've always believed that if I if I'm angry when I try to express something to you All you hear is my anger So how do I have that conversation with you so that you can hear the message and not the delivery of the message? And I was even having a conversation in my office with two white co-workers And they were asking me things and because I know that they were coming from the place of understanding Oftentimes I would you know, I asked the last panel the last round table Participants does it sometimes feel like it's too much. It's too. It's too hard being black It's too hard being a black woman. It's too hard being a woman in a male dominated industry Like do you ever feel that and and when you do what gets you from that place to a place that you're better or okay? Yes You've got other areas, too, you know, right now it is challenging and You both mentioned it is like the delivery and sometimes, you know You have to realize there are folks that may not have the same perceptions and experiences and Immediately you come in attack mode and you're like why but then also there was a time earlier in my career where I Was enabling it by not speaking up and I got to a point recently where I was like I'm gonna speak up because I'm I'm then becoming part of the problem And it's the way you deliver it and it's maybe like hey what you said upset me or maybe how I came off was aggressive or Attacking and I apologize for that but let me explain Why and maybe you can explain what your initial thought was and it's just being able to Own up and say let's communicate about whatever it is that maybe we both felt triggered by for lack of a better word and it's tough sometimes I you know, I look around me and there's only one of me and I Feel like I'm gonna own a lonely island, but then I remember like okay if there becomes an opportunity for me to connect I'm gonna advocate for that person and I'll be honest. I look around and say, you know We need some diversity because a lot of times that's gonna help us grow to where we're getting You know wanting to go and and the lack thereof is just slowing down the process So until we can start changing things and and growing in that nature. We're gonna stay stagnant. I jokingly Say this all the time because I am I'm biracial, so I'm Hispanic I'm like mm-hmm. I'm trading myself. I'm going over to the Hispanic delegation now I'm going over here to this side, but but in those moments where I get frustrated and I'm over it I think it goes back to remembering my commitment and You know, sometimes you kind of lay in the bed and you're like I gotta get up again and do this But I made this commitment and I'm a community advocate and I'm all about community. I'm for the people I am for the people and so look at yourself in the mirror and say you are for the people Don't forget it. So just having those moments of reminding myself But also extending grace to myself because we're also not monoliths So, you know and extending grace to others because you if we often only think about them coming from a hurtful place We respond with hurt. Yeah, so often times It's like we all have a responsibility to lift each other up and help each other in this process And so, you know, when I my younger self, I would say if you ask me some stupid, I'm gonna give you a stupid response But my mature self Says how can I help move the needle? How can I help? I walk away better and that person walks away, and so, you know, it's it's that responsibility We all have not just as black women, but just as humans like we have a responsibility to each other to help each other grow So I just Again, I'm grateful for all of you This just warms my heart to be able to be here with Black ladies with ladies. There was that, you know, whether it be black ladies or ladies. We were the minority Right. Yeah. And now there is a voice. There is There's sisterhood. There's like Shannon talked about the professional women's network and she talked about the the black ERG and Having those opportunities to grow together just mean so much. So thank you so much for participating Yeah