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Wolf here We have quorum Thank you in order to avoid ex parte communications DDRC members are under strict instructions Not to discuss cases under consideration with the public or with each other outside of the public forum The meeting typically starts with staff calling the case giving a summary of the project and then calling on the applicant to present if they wish Decisions are typically made in one evening Decisions may be appealed within 30 days to a court of competent jurisdiction Oaths will be administered individually as we hear either from applicants or from live speakers Applicants with requests before the DDRC are allotted a presentation time of 10 minutes This time should include but is not limited to an overview of the project case history and any pertinent meetings held regarding the request This time also includes all persons presenting information on behalf of the applicant such as attorneys engineers and architects This time limit does not include any questions asked by the DDRC or staff regarding requests Members of the general public are given the opportunity to address their concerns and intervals of two minutes Applicants may have five minutes to respond staff as a timer and will make presenters aware of when their time has expired Staff are there any changes to the agenda? There are no changes Thank you I'll continue reading while we try to resolve that issue The DDRC uses the consent agenda to approve non controversial or routine matters by a single motion and vote If a member of the DDRC or the general public wants to discuss an item on the consent agenda That item is removed from the consent agenda and considered during the meeting The DDRC then approves the remaining consent agenda items. I will staff. Please read the consent agenda The first item is 2113 Marion Street a request for preliminary Certification for the Bailey bill in the Cotton Town Bellevue architectural conservation district Second is 1528 Sumter Street a request for a certificate of design approval or in addition to an individual landmark Is there anyone from the DDRC that would like any item removed from the consent agenda? Is there anyone from the public that would like to have an item removed from the consent agenda? Do I have a motion and a second to remove an item from the consent agenda? Hearing none Do I have a motion and second to accept the consent agenda subject to all conditions contained in the case summaries as well as the November minutes? So moved We have a motion. Is there a second? second Mr. Broom Yeah Miss Branham. Yes, mr. Dinkins. Yes, mr. Salibi. Yes, and mr. Wolff Motion passes Hey moving right along to the regular agenda the first case is For 737 Gadsden Street, this is a request for certificate of design approval For new construction in the Inavista design district the request is for the new construction of a 12-story 616 square foot 310 unit private student dormitory with 12,000 square foot of retail and 545 structured parking spaces The project will also require site plan review and approval from the planning commission Which is currently scheduled for it actually is going to be in February of 2023 And I will just read a couple of the comments from staff that are related to the recommendation I'm not going to read through the whole evaluation and then we'll have the applicant come up and present So under the section 1.4 setbacks The maximum setback in the MC district is 10 feet The applicant has received several variances for setbacks from the Board of Zoning Appeals to include a maximum setback on Green Street of 15 feet a maximum setback on Divine of 15 feet and a maximum setback on Gadsden of 35 feet While the scale of the building warrants some additional sidewalk space to accommodate the volume of pedestrian activity Staff has concerns about the Gadsden Street drop-off lane This feature introduces an auto-oriented driveway into the continuous pedestrian sidewalk zones Described as parking lane edge furnishing zone pedestrian through zone and frontage zone and the pedestrian design guidelines of the city's engineering manual a Preferred alternative would be bump-outs at the street corners as well as mid-block if desired and the lane adjacent to the curb Dedicated to drop-off zones bus stops and or parking staff recommendation Pardon me Staff finds that the proposal substantially meets the inner Vista design guidelines and recommends approval of the request Conditional upon working through the following items with staff Reconfiguring the Gadsden Street drop-off zone to be a continuous lane adjacent to the curb with bump-outs and reducing the building setback accordingly Explore providing additional fenestration on the first floor Divine Street elevation That all signage will be reviewed and approved by staff and must meet the inner Vista design guidelines And then all other details will be deferred to staff for review and approval And Donnie Kim the architect is here to present the project and they'll walk through the slides Good afternoon. Good afternoon. If you would please state your name and whether you swear to tell the truth in these proceedings My name is Donnie Kim the architect. I swear to tell truth Thank you. Okay So what you see in front of you is the the site plan for the project to your left is the Green Street the Overpass the new overpass along the top is the Gadsden Street on the right would be the Divine Street This is made up of three different wings along the three streets with Raised courtyard, which you will see in just a minute on the floor plants and a parking deck towards the bottom In general the parking access is taught on the Divine streets toward the bottom of the page there into the parking deck with the fire truck access Towards the bottom of the page there with the surface parking So and then the the access to the buildings start from a top left-hand corner is There will be a main entry to the left wing there along the Green Street the main Entry Lobby to the the student housing project will be towards the middle And you see the three empty spots for future retail Along Gadsden and Divine Street So if I could go to the next page here, this is the first floor plan The the blue in the middle with the main lobby space for the student housing project will lease in offices to the right The L shape the reverse L shape would be the retail spaces and below that would be the bike parking that meets the zoning and then You'll see the you can see the parking entry there with the arrows below that you can see the entry to the parking deck and how it stacks and If I would direct your attention to the back to the top that between the blue and the yellow is a breezeway that's exposed to Exposed to air to allow passage from the street to the parking lot in the courtyard So this would be the typical floor plan above the first floor plan so you could see the residential units surrounding The street sites as well as you can see kind of how the the parking that works towards the bottom These are a little hard to read, but you'll see it better when we get to the renderings But these are the elevations on the top would be the The gas and street elevation the materials you also see later are mostly or they're all precast panels brick storefronts current walls The drawing below would be along the green streets And these are some of the elevations on the bottom is elevation along divine again You'll see this better in the renderings on the top is the view from the train track the south elevation if you will So This is a view from the corner of Gaston and green You can see that we're trying to activate the streets and the corner of Gaston green By having the clear curtain walls and the storefronts above and we have Along the get along the gas and street along the first floor We have all storefronts that it opens up to the the streets to activate the street as well and You'll see that all the materials showing here We have we try to model the correct offsets that we have between the brick And you can see the two different types of precast that are being used one light one dark This is this would be a simulated night view of the same view And this is an elevation or the view from the corner of Gaston and divine again The storefronts lining the first floor the ground floor for retail to open it up to the streets and again having the open corner and Different massing here to break up the the massing and this would be the view of the inter court yard from the train track side same material pilots you And these are some of the materials that we're currently reviewing so on the right you see four different types of precast finishes We're also reviewing it. It'll be different shades of precasts and different what they call sandblast to give it the texture So we'll be two we're still receiving samples, but wanted to give you an idea But we're reviewing but it'll be in this general family or the tone To master renderings on the left are the red bricks that we're reviewing these will be cast into the precast So we need to make sure that you know, they are PCI compliant meaning, you know, they could work with the precast panels So we're still reviewing samples, but this is a general tone of the brick that we are currently reviewing And we have a quick fly-through Video to show the overall sort of feel for the project Chas, please play the video Thank you. So this is looking at it from the arena side See the new overpass there on the right there's a very quick video but and You can see the different finish of the precast the light and the dark we are Changing the time of the day throughout the video so that's why you see different type of shadows But this is from Gaston and divine You can see the entry to the parking there Then we're going around to the parking next side The far access road from the train train track side This would be the raised courtyard above the parking surface parking below This is a loop so we could Thanks Chas we can go back to the slideshow now. Thank you. That is the end of my presentation All right. Thank you very much. Do any dvrc members have questions? I notice Service drive between the railroad tracks and the building itself that serves Service to the dumpster area. Okay, and when I was looking at it You can't get in and I realized there's a bridge on that end. Yes I guess that's acceptable to Department and whoever and I'd like to know how these Service are they going to be able to turn around to go back the other way? Yes, sir so we've reviewed the preliminary plans with the far department as well for their access and we did the We did the truck turn study with our civil engineer to make sure the trucks can turn and back up Street Since planning commissioning took over the site liner view Where does our purview end or begin with Like reconfiguring the drop-off sign. Well, I mean the dvrc still has purview over the urban design Parts of the project so a lot of the guidelines are architectural But a lot of them are also how pedestrians and cars Interface with the building so, you know parking how people get to the building, you know how people are walking So those are still urban design issues for the dvrc The planning commission will see this after the first of the year But the dvrc can certainly make recommendations about those things Setbacks are part of the guidelines, etc. I just don't want to conflict with planning commission, but no, I understand I think there probably is still some overlap There is some over sure I Guess to help to add on to that the planning commission site plan review is a technical review That's based on staff recommendations So they don't have guidelines if you will so this so they are taking what staff recommends About the site plan so the site plan comments that come from playing an urban design staff are based on our you know Things like walk by Columbia and the engineering regulations and the urban design guidelines So when we provide those comments those are based on documents that go to planning commission for approval So they're just based on the code their approval basically I mean yeah, the guidelines of course in the in the inner Vista Design guidelines have recommendations about building orientation and setbacks, but they're not they're not code But that's how we make our recommendations is sort of based on those principles Thank you So mr. Chair, so mr. Kim. I just wanted to I was wondering it first of all Lovely design. I think it's gonna be a really nice addition to the area. So we appreciate that Do you have any problem with going with the recommendation of the staff about changing that drop-off? We're we're actually reviewing it right now with our civil and landscape designers to see how we can accommodate that comment Okay, great because I don't see why not great that that that's exact that would be my only concern as well It's kind of making sure that seemed like a tight 10 feet between where that drop-off was and entering into the building Well, it's actually about 20 feet to the face the building because the first floor we kind of recessed it But yes, we right but those columns are in the way and that sort of thing So I just felt like sure to kind of if you're okay with with modifying that I think that was really my only Concern yes, we'll work with Listened as well to see what's optimal both in design and from the city's perspective Okay, and then the only other thing that I noticed in the fly around that wasn't in the materials Maybe it was in the elevations that were a little hard to read But the facade of the parking deck on the back there is pretty darn plain back there And I at me I didn't look at a Google map to see what's happening like is that even visible or is it so? As far as I can tell from the Google Earth and I was driving around it too It's it's not really visible from and it's pretty far from the next development across the train tracks Right, and then the development across the train track doesn't rise very high if you will above the berms there So we thought it would be okay, and we also have the knee walls right at 48 inch high currently So that it blocks off all the headlamp or the headlight spillage So I know it's a cost thing probably but I wouldn't mind if y'all took a look at that if indeed It was it's visible It's the only part of the project that just kind of falls short Compared to the rest of the beautiful design that you have Any other questions? Yeah, are you are you okay with providing additional fenestration on the first floor divine street elevation? That I think we need to to review it If you can see the plan up there Along the your right side is a divine street and about half of it We do have fenestrations the empty spaces correct So because because those all of those are retail and we can let me look into adding glass for the bike stores there But that's all the bike stores. We're providing enough count per the zoning But be below that it's all back of house spaces speaking to the microphone. Oh, I'm sorry so The two space two white spaces from atop there are retail right so that could definitely be we currently have it at storefronts windows the space Below it is a bike storage room and we can review adding more windows to it But anything but beyond that we have a trash pickup room You know trash compactor and in a boiler room and then you have the parking entrance there So it's a little bit hard to put Windows there and we figured because divine street is closed now, right? So there won't be too much traffic going towards the divine street So that's where we thought it'd be more appropriate to stop to storefront So you're okay with at least maybe introducing some glazing right there by the bike storage. Yes, well, we'll definitely look at that Yeah, okay, I mean even if it wasn't I guess if it was just glazing it, you know Yes, so I mean below the bike storage is our trash picker that's where overhead doors So there would be there. It's not just a blank wall There would be there would be a over a cooling door overhead cooling door Sorry, and we have a bunch of other doors But we could definitely address the bike storage area there more and it would introduce Me reveals and see the bottom mass there by the bottom right hand corner of the parking deck We could introduce like reveals to so that's not a blank wall I think that would be helpful to remember one of the elevation of that. Sure this one It is this one. It's the one on the bottom right so you can see from the right side The drawing on the bottom all the on the right side is your gas the street, right? And what listen that's just pointing to that's the That's the bike storage room that we could turn into either storefronts Although I honestly don't want to because the bike storage, but we could introduce reveals there, too And then the space just to the left of that was a cooling door For the compactor right and then if you go a little bit more to the left that opening just a little bit more left Yes, thank you. That would be the parking entry there So it's not just a blank wall, but we'll definitely Review how we can make it more what we could dress it up or any other questions I want clarification on the finishes You briefly showed us the brick. Yes And That code right brick and stucco correct brick and precast finishes on the building Get back to the one with One before this Anything shown in red is brick correct. Yes. Anything red is brick correct And what are the finishes between the brick finish between the brick would be the precast panels two different colors One would be dark one would be lighter, but there will be all precast panels Okay, thank you. Yep Any other questions? Thank you, Mr. Kim All right, we will now hear comments from the public. Would anyone like to make a motion? I will I moved to their chairman I moved to approve the requests for a certificate of design approval for new construction at 737 Gadsden Street With the following conditions Reconfigure the Gadsden Street drop-off zone to be a continuous lane adjacent to the curb with bump-outs and reducing the buildings set back accordingly Explore providing additional Finistration on the first floor divine Street elevation All signage Be reviewed and approved by staff and must meet the inner Vista design guidelines on all other details Be deferred to staff for review and approval I'd like to amend the motion Do we vote on this first or we do amendment with it having been seconded? I think now it goes to a vote if that fails we can propose an amended motion Or a new motion. I didn't have a Although I guess I guess technically there should be an amount of time to offer up an amendment So let's hear what you got and see if anyone wants to second that I Think I can amend my motion my motion, right? I Can amend so the only thing out would request that we amend is to not necessarily require the reducing of the building set back accordingly but to keep the first part of your motion on that point and Along with referring the details to staff to also include reviewing the parking deck facade on the back Along whatever street that is And I'm in I mean I can amend my motion Okay, yes, I will amend the motion to remove the condition of reducing the building set back requirement let's keep that as a consideration and also To review the Facile on the back part of the garage to review the facade on the backside of the parking deck with staff I second that Mr. Broom yes, Miss Sims Brannum. Yes, Mr. Dinkins. Yes, Mr. Salibi. Yes, and Mr. Wolf Motion passes. All right on to the next project So the next case is this is 1206 Bull Street This is a request for certificate of design approval for a new construction in the city center design development district The proposal is for a new Approximately 3,500 square foot branch bank office at the northeast corner of Jervay and Bull Streets with a single-lane drive-through The existing two-story building on the north property line at 1206 Bull has been demolished just to clarify on the aerial it's still in there and I will read the staff recommendation and then the applicant and the architect are here The staff recommends approval of the request with the condition that the following items be revised and deferred To staff for approval to increase glazing percentages along Jervay Street to at least 50% To explore more human-scaled features and details along the street frontage to enhance the pedestrian environment To work with both city and SCDOT staff to configure the right-of-way improvements to include trees decorative street lighting and other details To ensure all signage meets the zoning and city center design guidelines and that all other details be just deferred to staff Saint Monteith is the architect and he's gonna Talk about the project Good afternoon. If you would please state your name and whether you swear to tell the truth in these proceedings My name is LaSaine Monteith. I'm the architect for a small branch bank or Optus Bank Optus Bank now has its main office on the 1200 block on Main Street But they've selected this corner for a couple of reasons one there Done a lot of work rebranding their bank over the years and this is a very prominent corner Which would give them a lot of visibility will also give them something they don't have at their main branch Which is a drive-through capability I'd like to start with Well, let's start with sight plan. I'm sort of humbled after the previous submission And this is definitely an underdevelopment but this is a very small building a little over 5,000 feet counting both floors and The site plan is quite simple. It has counterclockwise location around the building entered from Jervais Street and exiting on Bull Street We have nine off-street parking spaces plus a drive-on to Canopy There will be a ATM machine and Perhaps some other things we haven't worked out yet, for example electric charging stations for electric vehicles and that sort of thing I Think we've indicated equipment certain places on there, but that's still Little flexible, I would hope How'd I get to the I think the renderings are the best way to start how'd I go? Yeah, which one advances it? It's a simple building the Material on the building primarily is metallic panels clear-ound dice aluminum panels. I have a In essence the entire building is to be clear-ound dice aluminum panels with the exception perhaps of two solid panels Which you see in the rendering those came about because we the bank didn't want anyone to send to the vault obviously and There's a conference room on the other corner and they prefer not to have people walking about a street Look in the end of that room since it has purposes other than just functions to the branch bank and It's very simple counterclockwise circulation around the building and Several issues are not resolved one is street lighting I've noticed that there now. I think three of the traditional lights of the city is Used throughout the city really a lot of ways there are the lamps, but we certainly be willing to Put one of those in each of our elevations are more needed. We'd like to Have that left up the staff if we might as to the spacing of those particular lights Very simple building all the mechanical equipment will be concealed by the parapet on top of the building is none of it at great and It's just a typical branch bank Well, it's not that typical. I hope Is that all? Very good any questions from DDRC members Yeah, I have a question mr. Chair so listen, so You don't I get that the vault needs to have that solid red wall, but well, we don't we don't know That's a that's a red wall right now. It's shown on elevations. There's a lukabind panels, which is clear anodized aluminum Of course they make those panels and a myriad of colors. Oh, no, I'm fine with the red. I was just Back to the staff comments about more glazing along Gervais street Since this is an office and I understand the privacy factor But do you see any way to to perhaps move that red? Um And open up the glazing a sliver of at least a little more glazing in the office and then move the red Floor plan both those spaces on the right hand end of this rendering do have windows that face the drive on the eastern end of the building They're not completely without daylight, but I think it's just logical that These things when we ranked them in on the first floor We felt that it looked a lot better just to carry it up to the second floor in the bank acquiesce to that and we'd like We'd like to have the option perhaps of using stucco where that solid panel is shown not so much because of cost or any I'm sorry because of cost but Just to get some sort of tactile texture in the building other than something that's very slick and shiny But and I would hope that could be left between us and staff to make that decision. We've worked with them before This corner is a very important corner in a lot of ways for one thing. We're right across the street from the University of South Carolina School of Law, which miss brandham's her firm design In fact, I was serving on this commission when design was approved But I We're very happy to be across the street. I think it's one more responsible buildings that the university has built in the last few years I think it will stand its test of time better than some of the other things they put up Diagonally across the street is a ws television station, which is a much younger architect I doubled in size years ago And so I have some familiarity with that the other corners of filling station In convenience store and we can't do too much about that but And We're all trying to strive for walkable city, but we're a long way from that right now So people downtown. I just need gasoline like the rest of us. So we just live with the with the filling station and convenience store. Although I have seen examples of more sympathetic Way of doing gas stations than that one, but it's pretty much in use. So I guess we were going to have to live with it for a while So thank you. Lissane on the comp the compliment of the law school However, it actually wasn't my firm that designed it, but I agree with you that it is A handsome building in in that area. It's a shame that across the street didn't quite match the architectural beauty of the street of the law school across the street But I think this will be a nice addition to that corner Lissane I think what what we're just trying to get to is Whether it's stucco or another metal panel with the red accent or if it's a different color Is just opening up a bit more of the glazing Do you have a problem with what I was thinking is if you could show the other elevation of the back Or back side like if you can see if I can work this device this commission has come a long way since I served on That perhaps, you know, you have a slit window on the back side of that office on the side of the office Oh, that's that's that's the side with the drive. Yeah, right here right here right here Lissane So you see how you have that slit window right under the other the other corner, right that goes into that office Perhaps it could flip to the other side and then you could put a red The panel there to to me. I don't know that it meet the exact 50 percent of glazing But it would allow a little more glazing and it could still end with that black panel You know, so you so you wouldn't have to have signage all the way across where the red is that it could just flip to that other Elevation is what I'm proposing In other words, just take the slit and move it In the office that larger office move it to the gervais street side instead of the parking lot Well, we might be a nicer view for the person in the office is Prefer not to and the reason we have the solid panel there so one walking by just doesn't look into this fairly large conference room on that floor But Whatever it takes You can't see that side of the building as you're walking up the street I'm sorry I mean we can see you can see that side of the bit the back side I believe as you're walking up the street. Is that correct? Yes, yeah, I think so you can see all sides of this building from the street I mean, I would just propose that that red if you're driving down gervais You'd see that red panel a lot better on the facade that's facing the parking lot as opposed to Anyway, it's just a consideration to to Meet with the staff saying that a little bit more glazing on just the gervais street Not necessarily where the vault is because clearly that has to be a solid wall So if that may just be something a consideration that y'all could look at another unresolved issue is the digital sign which is shown on the building there We're waiting for some information from uh, hope hasty the zoning administrator on what we actually can do, right? I'd hope maybe to get a sign away from the wonders and Put it on that solid area if we could get up Proportions that work for a digital sign, but you know, that's still up in the air. It's just the signs there. I mean it's We've run into some problems and the amount rendering we showed some businesses that are customers of the bank and apparently that's Not permitted as I understand it But the bank does not intend to put any advertisements on the sign other than things having to do with the bank itself and I mean rates for car loans and mortgages and that sort of thing but But still that's up in the air, right? So I know that'll be a detail that you'll will defer to staff to work with you on but the only other issue I was going to ask you about is kind of the the entry element and bringing down the pedestrian scale that was mentioned So it does seem like if you look at this elevation, here's the guy at the teller outside the the The machine outside and with that Roof being so high. I don't think he's he's not going to be in out of the rain at that that height So perhaps bringing in another I think the staff is recommending as I am that there may be a lowered Entry canopy that I think that might be something just Comes concomitantly with the piece of equipment that there's just some sort of shielding there It's designed to be used totally outdoors if needed. So But I think we're talking about lezane coming in underneath that digital sign and actually coming out with another Um awning so to speak or a Metal element that would you're concerned about the entry on the corner Exactly that the the height of that where the sign is That it's not a pedestrian sales because it's so high and that perhaps Leaving it where it is but then introducing another element that would be a canopy A little bit above almost where that That joint is on the glazing I presume we could make that panel that supports the channel level at office on the second floor We could make that deeper And blow out the ceiling height I think we're talking about actually Introducing another element that would bring the scale down just a bit at that corner You have point to it listen Right that just to bring in another Entry canopy at that scale at that elevation Well, what what would be wrong with making that panel that supports that kind of level corner office deep enough to Basically lower that You're saying that the metal panel would be deeper. It could be I don't know how it would work We haven't studied I think either any way you come up with that I think just if we could address the scale factor I I leave it up to you instead. You would like it lower going into the corner entrance and just again to respond to the pedestrian We can certainly do that one way or another. Okay. Yeah, I'm not dictating how it's done. Just just to take a look at it Okay Thank you. Any other questions Where are you in your discussions with city and dot with respect to the entrances and exits and we have We have secured approval from dot For basically the way the entrances are located We hope to use the existing curb cuts. We may not be able to do that. They've given us an extremely detailed Set of things we have to follow as far as turning radius You know that sort of thing which we'll follow religiously So it's been approved by dot All right, this the site plan is I'm looking at dot is approved all the entrances and exits Well, I'll I'll saw the developer of the project is here and he handled the Negotiations with dot. Do you want to address that? I apologize if you're going to address the commission You have to come up to the podium although before we move to that I have a question for the architect if it now would be appropriate. So so one of the guidelines Suggests consistency In architectural theme with surrounding buildings and you mentioned two other very beautiful buildings the law school and wis tv building Both of which I think contain a significant amount of break And and so do other buildings in the immediate vicinity Have you considered maybe instead of the what's rendered to be red paneling Maybe use of some type of red brick. So it's a little more consistent with with the surrounding area I don't think it will achieve the effect that the bank wants. They want a very Jewel-like appearance and that sort of thing. So yeah, no not using bricks very intentional in this particular situation Interesting and staff thoughts on that considering the guidelines It does it does mention that the the two-story contemporary structure Of large-scale metal and glass is somewhat of a contrast to the existing buildings and the immediate surroundings However There was somewhere in here that there's not a it's while there is a lot of brick in the area. It's not Necessarily required right it's a suggestion. It is a little bit of a departure. Um, but I mean, we see that pretty regularly. So Um, you know, it's not it's not like the style or the there's a consistency Of style in that area. There's a lot of variation in the architecture even though it's a lot of brick. So Sure, sure. I'm just trying to be conscious of the kind of feel and the appearance of that that area in this Kind of has a you know I guess downtown 1980s. It's a good question relative to to what we have Totally worthy. I mean, I just it looks like nothing else that So, let me ask you back So I pulled an elevation on that side of the street and I know the Midas is a new addition there And it's it's brick, but it's I wouldn't say consistent with the color of brick That's everywhere around it either. But is this building stucco that's next to it I'm not sure what that little guy is that I don't know that's our beauty salon So, but is that material stucco? I mean could that I think it is stucco So that might help if you go back to stucco like you were talking about let's say that might help a little bit without I think Though I agree with the fact that the other two buildings are more In keeping with well, I think the law school was in keeping with the historic neighborhood and things behind it But there's a lot happening along gervais that isn't necessarily in keeping with that Um, but I think they could still maintain kind of this more contemporary approach to the bank's Um Kind of image that they're trying to portray But maybe Introducing stucco something other than metal panels might be the solution and if it can't be brick Perhaps just because there's a breakup of I think the hotel down the street, which I didn't get the you know the new Home to or whatever that thing is called. It's got some metal panels on it as well So it's kind of a combination of that sort of thing Um, but I agree. I don't know that I'd I'd want to force the brick element here, but I think if we could Consider stucco that would help I think the applicant recommend or suggested they'd be open to considering stucco. Is that correct? Yeah I think it's stucco covered over the water reasons. I'd like to see stucco is to get a different tactile feel Exactly that would be nice to see the stucco is being smooth. I saw it as being stiff Having some sort of texture to it Which might be a nice contrast. Is that what you're saying? Exactly. Yeah, I agree I think I think Tillman looks like it's the stucco was probably Covering over the original brick The entire side of the buildings. It's all brick except for that front piece Yeah, it's a tough elevation Yeah, thank you for just to finish up to answer your question. That was better articulated I think what when staff first saw the design it was, you know, it's a very contemporary modern design Trying to introduce brick while that was acknowledged. It felt like it wouldn't really fit with the design So it felt like it would have been forced. I think that's a good suggestion though Maybe stucco would help it blend with the next door neighbor without really changing The style because it is very modern So that's that was kind of Of course you have the gas station across the street that metal panel and you know All right, any other questions for mr. Monteef? I noticed on the the submittal there were two different site plans one with the angled parks on Adjacent to the Midas parking lot and the other with the head end Which one the latest site plan is one with the angle parking We have nine off-street parking spaces Curiously none are required Yeah, I was just just curious which one we were going going off of The one with the angle parking spaces and There was a mistake without civil engineers start with each showing interest off of bull street Which made sense at that point to some degree because we had perpendicular parking in that site plan but Required five foot setback from the right away. We had to go to angle parking But I think everyone's happy with the plan and the clearances work Got it. Thank you. All right. Thank you mr. Monteef Do you need mr. Sarge address the D. O. T I would like for him to I'm I'm concerned about the access points and the conflicts So I I'd like to hear where you stand with the city and with D. O. T. I think they both In the downtown area they kind of have a dual jurisdiction I mean from from if you're asking for the purview I guess from From the ddrc standpoint the pedestrian access to the building which is on the corner is appropriate The site is small and there's just not really a whole lot of choices So that's probably why d. O. T. approved it because they have to allow access to the property But there's a limited amount of purview for the ddrc to talk about vehicular Access points. It's not really the access. It's I guess the interaction with the pedestrians too. You have a Extremely wide in a sense like dual exit with from the drive-through and from the parking lot and Right into the pedestrian I guess which you know is somewhat of a going to be a corridor I'm not sure of any other options either but in general d. O. T. if you Are going to demolish and you change the use of a site. I mean There's no you can't necessarily use your existing access points You have to meet code So, I mean, I would just like to hear again where you stand with that review or park I mean If they approved right so if you would please state your name and whether you swear to tell the truth in these proceedings Please my name is al side. I swear to tell the truth. Thank you, sir I met with the department of transportation With the original drawing which showed Two exits and one entrance and they did not like they said if we would eliminate the Entrance the exit the entrance on From bull street They would approve the two exits on So they haven't but you've met with them and they said if you made these changes they would yes Along with the setbacks that I like was saying it's added The building back five feet The streets gave improvements to city you've met with the city regarding, you know planings and Sidewalks and what they want Along both right of ways We do plan to if you let us meet with staff and decide What vegetation is needed there and And we'll we'll comply I would assume we're going to have some sort of foundation planning along the javae street and the bull street side And you're probably low low planting there in trees where we've got we've got a place for Tree island there There's not a whole lot of landscaping to to be done The improvements in the right away We'll have to go through the encroachment process which will include review by City forestry public works planning urban design So we will certainly work with them on making sure that all of those improvements meet city standards and design guidelines But we haven't had those conversations yet Any other questions? Thank you both. Thank you We will now hear comments from the public Hearing none. Do I have a motion? Yes, I'd like to make a motion. Mr. Chair. I'd like to recommend approval for the request for certificate of design approval for 1501 javae street and 1206 bull street with the following recommendations to increase the glazing percentages along javae street Um, not necessarily to 50 but to consider more glazing along just javae street In keeping with that to also consider introducing Some stucco rather than all of the metal panels to relate better to the surrounding uh aesthetics To explore more human scaled features and details along the street frontage to enhance the pedestrian environment To work with the city and scdot staff to configure the right-of-way improvements to include trees decorative street lighting and other details Ensure that all signage meets zoning and city center design guidelines and all other details deferred to staff Do I have a second second? Any discussion? All right Mr. Broom This sims brannam. Yes Mr. Dinkins No Mr. Salibi. Yes, and mr. Wolf. Yes, motion passes Thank you. Is there any other business? I don't believe we have any other business, but we do wish you all a very happy holiday Motion to you. Thank you very much. All right. I'm called the meeting adjourned. Thank you everybody