 First question is from Omar Martinez, 08. Can you guys go over new tropics and your personal experiences with them? You've probably had the most, Sal, right? Yeah, and he's tried them all. Well, I've given you guys a bunch, too. Yeah, no, I've tried a lot. And honestly, consistently, nothing beats pure for me. Yeah. Oh, I mean, the way I feel from that. That's my favorite. The other ones, hit and miss, might get a headache, might feel a spike, then come down. I like, I have nothing. I think like, because they use like artificial ingredients, I think. Some of the ones that I've had before, like I think. Yeah, I mean, OK, to be clear, just like this is like when people ask us fitness questions, what's the best supplement for whatever? Nothing's going to come close to good diet, good sleep, you know, sleep, by the way, is huge. Like whenever I would have clients who had issues with cognitive performance, nine out of 10 times, it was either they weren't getting enough sleep or they had crappy sleep. Or even like over consuming, like carbohydrates, like being just overloaded with calories. Right. Or diet or whatever, it makes a huge difference. And they show that exercise makes a big difference with cognitive performance, especially resistance training. In fact, there was a study done out of Sydney, Australia that showed that resistance trains the only form of exercise that seems to prevent or halt the progression of dementia or as Alzheimer's. Probably because it increases insulin sensitivity. And that's part of maybe they think one of the reasons why our cognitive function declines is our ability to utilize insulin starts to get, you know, poor or whatever. So those things are the most effective. But OK, as far as supplements are concerned, creatine has been shown to boost cognitive function. Then you have the class of drugs called race attempts. These are these and these are these are actual synthetic. These are the ones I don't want. That's the synthetic was the word. Yeah, like paracetam, aniracetam, and there's lots of others. And I've tried them and what they seem to do for me is almost give me like a stimulatory effect. Don't know if I get a cognitive boost. Like, I feel like, you know, I could definitely take things that will increase my wakefulness, like caffeine will do that. But does that mean I'm actually thinking sharper than I would if I was already kind of awake? Does that make sense? So it makes me think sharper, mainly because I'm not feeling as tired. But let's say I wasn't tired, everything was fine. Would it improve my cognitive performance and studies show that? No, like, for example, Adderall, right? They do studies on Adderall and people's report that they feel smarter, but they actually do tests and they find you don't. You just like when you're doing more. You're smarter. Yeah, you think you're smarter. So I don't know, it's very interesting. But the one that seems to be the most consistent I'm with you is the pure. All the race attempts, they make me they can make me feel kind of crappy sometimes or when I get headaches or when I come down, I don't feel good. Pure is one that I take regularly. We take it before we podcast. And now, is that because the reason why we probably feel that way is because everything and it's all natural? Is that what is natural? It's not super hyper strong. It's got lion's mane in there. It's got some other compounds in there that help. It's also got some gut health. And it's actually a nice compliment to caffeine, which obviously you guys know I'm pretty much addicted to. But it's one of those things like I can I can I feel sharper and it really is the like the effect of it is only when I'm super consistent with it. So it'll take like a few times. And then like, I feel like it really starts to kick in like maybe the fifth or sixth time that I'm like using it and then I'm like, you know, on fire. Yeah, another thing another thing that seems to help some people is to do a ketogenic diet. So some people will report that when their body is running on ketones, that they feel sharper or they're able to think faster. I'm like that. So you guys know that I do I go on a ketogenic diet, you know, maybe twice a year and I do it specifically for that. I'll go on it because I want to I want to get those those mental benefits. I don't like the performance benefits. I tend to lose strength on them or whatever. But when I when I do do it, I do notice that I get a little sharper in the way. I notice the same thing, but I actually don't have to be on the keto diet. You just fast. So I feel the same benefits by sure. So there's something like if I have to do a lot of times when I have an interview like on another show in the morning or whatever, I won't fast. Yeah, I stay fasted. And I just I feel way, way sharper than if I were to go eat like a 600 calorie breakfast. This is a booming segment of the supplement industry. I remember when we first started the podcast, how I would bring it up and it was kind of this new thing. And remember how we would speculate and I'd be like, you know, I bet you this is going to be a huge part of the supplement industry. Where did it start? Because I feel like it was it was in Navy SEALs. Yeah, Navy SEALs are like, yeah, like fighter pilots. Like I feel like that was like, you know, so promoted. Well, they would take drugs. So they would take amphetamines or medafinil. Medafinil was that's the fighter pilots. But there's I thought the SEALs were the ones that were using a racetem and all those some precedent. I don't know. I know that they're their prescription in Russia. I believe in Europe as well, but they're mixed because I've given all. OK, so here's the deal and the audience knows this. We've talked about this. I love experimenting with supplements and I love experimenting with you guys with supplements. I'm like, I'm going to see what happens to Adam. Oftentimes I'll get we'll get something sent to us and then I'll hand and you guys trust me, which is wonderful. I'll just say, hey, try this. We're losing that truck, by the way. Well, come on, if you miss at least 70 percent of time, that's all good because that 30 percent was 70 percent. Could you Google magic? The origin of that? What? What? Neutropics. Yeah, origin of Neutropics. Yeah, I think even the term Neutropic was, I believe, was a new one. I think they came out with that, like not even that many. What was it before? There wasn't one. There wasn't a term Neutropic. Oh, yeah. So I think it was like maybe in the 70s or 60s. I might be wrong. Let's see if Doug finds it. Oh, there we go, 1972. Isn't that weird how we remember weird shit like that? You could literally ask me, like, where are we? 1972. Where we keep the teaspoons in my house. And I'll be like, I have no idea. Jessica gets away. That's how I am with commercial jingles, so whatever. Yeah, but yeah, it's an exploding segment of the supplement industry. And I predict it to continue to explode, especially as the aging population continues to become more interested in taking supplements. And as we start to, you know, idolize people in tech, like, you know, 30 years ago, really smart people were not idolized. Today, like that's because tech is running the world. Now it's like this big thing. And so everybody's interested in making themselves smarter or whatever. So it's this exploding segment. But yeah, so far consistently from what I've given you guys, some stuff gives you headaches. Some stuff makes you crash. I remember one time I gave Adam something and then an hour later, he's like, he was done. He had to go home. It was awful. Yeah, but but the pure consistently is biohacking still a thing. I mean, of course, I haven't seen like, you know how it was. It was pretty much in a lot of magazines. It was like still the thing. So it's still going strong. Oh, hell, yeah. OK, hell, yeah. I haven't seen much from it. Is does psilocybin fall into this category? Would it be considered what's funny micro dosing? Yeah, micro dosing. They haven't put them in that new tropic category, but they are finding that people get like positive mood effects from some of the stuff. But this is anecdotal. It's not a lot of studies yet to support it. And it's kind of getting popular here in Silicon Valley. In fact, there was a guy that was fired recently. It's very popular. It's stealing fire. The whole book is all about that. There was a CEO, literally, who got fired for micro dosing LSD. Maybe Doug can pull up. How'd you bring that up? I forgot. But does it recent? Look up CEO fired from micro dosing and it should come up. Oh, wow. And it was a tech CEO here. Huh? I think he was here. Wow. How did no one bring this up? I don't know. That's interesting. Yeah, I don't know. And was it relatively recent or what? Yes, it was not that it was so who is it? Doug, does it say? Yeah, Justin Zoo of Iterable Inc. They dismissed as CEO. Because he microdosed LSD at work. Wow. He told everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was going to say it's like one of those things. First rule of Fight Club. Dude, it's like that time. Is that like the early days, Adam, when we did that podcast and we thought we were microdosing? Whoops. It was more of a macro dose. Yeah, yeah, that was not a good idea. A few terms. Wow, that's crazy.