 Okay, let's begin guys. Thanks for waiting. We have quite a few people now. So hi everybody and good evening and welcome to the first edition of Coco Jam. And we just like to start by saying that we're absolutely glad that we've gotten equally good response from the tech and creative communities both. And this was a fairly unfamiliar concept of code poetry. And we did get a lot of great response from everybody. We're super excited to have you all join us live on various streams that are on right now. Coco Jam is our first attempt to bring tech and art together to see the kind of creative possibilities that lie at this intersection. And in the process develop a new category of creators. Okay, so this is our attempt to develop a new category of creators as well. And through Coco Jam and the overall umbrella of draft, we want to instigate programmers and techies to explore creative use of coding and to make art for creative expression through this format and also inspire designers, artists and other creators to use technology to augment their art what they're doing right now to make for exciting experiences. Now to introduce the host of this event. I am Nandipi. I formed 50% of Ajabhar, which is one of the organizers. The other 50% of Ajabhar is Ambika, who you'll see at the end of the jam. We have Doobie Doobie Doobie, who is also commonly known as Avat. He will be moderating the jam this evening for us. A huge shout out to the very nice folks at Haskeek who have set up all the streams for us and who have been extremely patient with us during, while we did tech chest for like an hour altogether. And they've been super supportive in general for everything. We hope all of you have a seamless experience as far as the tech goes, but sometimes machines also can get moving. So if there is a tech glitch, then we're just going to say that this is called draft and it is expected to be weird. So let's just embrace the bridge. So let's get started with this and over to Agar. Okay. Thank you, Nandipi. And thanks everyone for coming. So this is the first copo jam, code poetry jam. And copo jam is part of draft is what Nandipi has already told us. And draft is an attempt to understand how text is going to change in the future. So one of the things that draft is trying to do is understand intersections of text and technology and understand how widely text influences our lives. So in fact, when we started working on on this, we realized that text is everywhere. It is in fact an all inclusive category. Hold on. Yeah, can you, is this okay now? Yeah, sorry. Yeah. So I was saying that how we, when we started to think about draft and we realized that text is such an all inclusive category that there's almost everything comes inside text and therefore it's so powerful. And we thought that it'll be interesting to understand how text will change in the future. When the lockdown started and COVID kind of took over our world, we were planning to set up a small festival in Jaipur. And well, because of the lockdown and because of how things have panned out, we kind of changed course a little bit and thought it would be nice to meet multiple times, multiple times through smaller events, till the time we all can get together in person and do something big with draft. So that's how Popo Jam was born. Some of us are interested in poetry. Some of us were interested in code. Some of us were interested in how both these things intersect with each other. And I think one of the evenings when we were thinking how to, what to do now, we were, Nanditi kind of suggested that why don't we do a poetry jam, but try and see what technology can do in the mix. And Popo Jam was born. And after that, when we spoke to everybody in the community, everybody was extremely fascinated that what is this and what could this be? So what happened as we started to think about Popo Jam was that we went out thinking of syntax poetry, which is a very specific category, but it very quickly expanded. We were very, very encouraged by the kind of responses we got and the discussions we had with everybody and everybody told us, yes, but why can't this be poetry and why can't that be poetry? So we ended up expanding the definition of poetry a lot. And that kind of helped us in opening our eyes and sort of widening our horizon of what poetry can be. What we what we're exploring today are also some very, very interesting and very varied kind of diverse forms of poetry. We have blackout poetry. We have, we also have sentiment analysis in the context of literature. We also have something on speculative literature, speculative fiction and generative texts and things like that. We also have sound getting converted to words and those kind of translations as well. This, the idea of Popo Jam, the idea of draft is to encourage experimentation and is to encourage newer forms to encourage people to come together and learn from each other. And it is with that spirit that we have kind of set up this set of this platform. So what we are going to do is we are going to go, we have, all our presenters are lined up one after the other and our questions are, we'll take questions at the end. But you can keep shooting those questions on wherever you are if you're on Zoom, Facebook or YouTube, you can keep typing those questions in and if you want to address any specific panelists, you can write their name in front of that as well. And in the end, we'll take all the questions and so I hope that is clear. One of our presenters will also, would also interact with you through the chat box. So those instructions will come when they have to. What we have lined up today is, as I said, we have just a second. So what we're going to do is we're going to start with one of the youngest presenters here. His name is Jayzer and Jayzer is an interaction designer and he has this kind of, he has this playful itch with, with code and he makes an experimental interfaces. And so today Jayzer is going to share something with us in the space of blackout poetry. So now I think over to you Jayzer and I'm going to sort of, yeah, share my video and over to you. Yeah, thanks Agad. Okay. Hi everybody. And before I get into what interface I have today for you, what I'm going to be sharing. The next few minutes, we're going to be dabbling into this realm of blackout poetry. So let me just get onto that. Okay. So blackout poetry is a form of poetry where you take an already existing piece of text and you only select a few words, paint over the rest, and then the selected few words they form a poem. And to me, when I looked at this visual, it almost, I could sense an interplay of opposition here. Certain words are being on, certain words are being off. And computationally, I can also look at it as certain words being true and certain words being false. So this binary interplay, this interplay of opposites is what the, what the interface is going to explore. And the interesting part here is that the opposition is going to be the person who's there to interact with it, their intuition, their emotional intuition versus a bot who's going to be functioning on some mechanical randomness. So let's dive into that interface. So this is it. I hope you guys can see my cursor. I made it very bold and very green. And this is a piece of text. And on the left, you can see certain creation modes here. And we're going to go through each of these creation modes. And yeah, look at what poetry we're getting. So this is the first mode which says thesis only you select. And this is where only I'm going to work through this. And I'm going to be improvising my way through this. So let's see, and I'll start performing my poetry. So I'm going to be selecting the words. I think that's pretty much it. That is the poem that I want to go for. And from here, I can move on to do the blackout. And this is it. And I'm not going to be reading out this poem myself. But to the essence of Koppu Jam, I have brought in something interesting, a fun feature that we're going to explore. So let's hear that. Modern me was from the next routine I could exceed the younger unhappiness. And that was speech synthesis. So it's interesting here how I have performed the poetry and now this part. Modern me was from the next routine I could exceed the younger unhappiness. This was the first mode. Now we're going to look on to the next mode. And it says anti thesis only the bot selects. Now we have the opportunity to interpret what this bot has to tell us. And there we have a poem. Let's hear it. Of the next cottage that the little gentleness. Does that make sense to you guys? I mean. Of the next cottage that the little gentleness. Maybe, maybe. And we're going to move on to the next mode, which says synthesis where you select and then the bot select. So now we've entered this collaborative space. And let's see how that feels like. So I'm going to select the first word. It's like a night for me. Okay. I'm going to do blackout here now. This is what the poetry looks like. Let's hear it. Modern night to discover the sun the man within every gentleness for I was. And it's interesting here. This experience is almost competitive also in nature because there's an I am thoughtfully trying to select words here and the computer is literally just throwing a word at me. So that's something interesting to explore in this mode. The next mode is called symbiosis, which says you select and that the bot suggests. We're going to try that now. So I'm going to select the it has select and now it's giving me some suggestions. So the suggestions for me are gentle night course same. I selected night. Now the selections are hover before course for and this was me and computer collaborating in some sense. This is the poem. The night before youth that the blind love and cause. Let's hear that again. The night before youth that the blind love and cause. I don't know. I mean, to me, these poems make some sense, but I'm really wondering what you guys are thinking whether this is making sense to you or not. Now there's the last mode that we can explore. It's called visual and it says only the bottom draws a wave. And when you click here, you can see some sort of pattern here. And what's happened here is that if you look at all these creation modes, the first one, this, these creation modes are coming from that idea of opposites and opposites, the interplay between them. So the first one is where only one opposite works, which is me. The next one is where only the computer works synthesis is where there was such sort of a middle ground between these two opposite ideas. Symbiosis was where these both ideas helped each other in some sense. And they were in many ways dependent on one another. And the last one visual is a wild card. Because in this case, I thought, why do we need to go for two opposites? There's human and computer. And they're both working under the rules of language. I still try to create poetry under language. The computer is also trying to perform under language, but this mode is where a new bot comes in and the bot operates under the rules of visual. So here, if you notice, it's a sine wave that the bot has plotted on onto this paragraph and then selected those words. Or could them course to prepared as a younger gentleness his I mean, that makes more sense somehow. Or could them course to prepared as a younger gentleness his and that is that was pretty much the interface. And it'll be really interesting once this is once this is over to you guys and see what you're getting from it, what you're experiencing from it. If you want to know more on this project, there's a link here, which says in the context of human computer dichotomy no more and this explore expands on to that idea of oppositions. And the link to this generator will be shared with you soon. And that is what I had to share with you. Thank you so much for listening. And I hope you had a nice time over to you. Do be, do be, do be. Jay, sir, I'm very curious how this started. How when like, were you doing blackout poetry? There was an image of you doing something on a newspaper. That's correct, but that's not me. So how did it start for you? What? Oh, yeah, that's not you. How did it start for you? This project came out. So I'm in my final year of my design education for four years. And in that we have something called the graduation project. So this project came out of that experience of the graduation project. I started by looking at this whole aspect of binaries and opposites. And within that contextual inquiry, certain things folded and folded. I decided to explore this realm of language and text. And through that I found I discovered blackout poetry. And then this interface came out of that. Okay. So I've been given some instructions on how that I think I've been told to repeat that if you have, Jay, hang on, I have some more questions for you. Cool. So if you have any questions, put a Q in the bracket, put the name of the person you want to ask that question to, and then put your question. If you don't have a specific person in mind, you can leave the bracket blank or not have a bracket at all. So Jay, sir, I'm very fascinated. So when you were making this poetry, this poetry every day, and some poems made sense or some poems made more sense than the rest, right? So what was your, I mean, what did you think that was, did you get a sense of the kind of poet your bot is? Like, is there a, that's, yeah. So that's, so if you, if we go behind the algorithms that are on play here, so the bot is following a simple rule, like I'm going, I'm revealing the secret here in some sense. The bot is following grammar rules for it's, it just knows, okay, I need to follow a preposition, a dataminer, a noun, and these grammar rules are, have been, have been noticed and analyzed through different poets. So if I try to save this poem, only bot selects, I'll save this, I'm, I can look at the name. So for this file, the name says poem by Emily Dickensbot. So the bot that was using the grammar rule by Emily Dickinson, and that's sort of a pun on the name. Okay, interesting. Thanks, Jay sir. And we'll, we've got some questions coming in for you, but we'll take them in the end. Our next, our next presenter is Hugo, Hugo Pilate. Hugo Pilate is a designer. And he has a very interesting practice because with every project of his, he seems to be, he seems to be sort of trying to understand something in the world around him. And this project that he'll present here today is a, is a very charming little project, but it's very beautiful. And I mean, the exact details you'll share with you, but I think what I find very fascinating about this project is that it has this sort of this childlike curiosity in it. And it's, and the, and it has got this really sort of a very simple grace, but yet it's an extremely sort of thought provoking. And it's a, it, it, it's very simple. It's, it's very simple looking modality exposes a lot to us. So Hugo, are you there? Yes, I'm waiting for my video to come on. I think I don't have access just yet, but thank you very much for a very kind introduction Agat. So while that gets started, basically, I just wanted to say a quick word about this, and I'll explain more after we try this kind of performance experience. But basically what I've tried to do is use very rudimentary code because that's the extent of my knowledge and the extent of my know-how and creative coding and use, you know, our power of perception and interpretation as humans to kind of read between the lines. Okay. So I'll leave it there and start sharing my screen. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm going to switch my video off all the best for that. Okay. Is my screen visible? Yeah. Perfect. Great. So thank you very much, everyone for joining. I'd like to invite you to big questions for small talk. And in this session, I'd like to walk you through a very simple kind of question generator I've created to get us through, you know, all these awkward moments of silence or kind of proximity and intimacy where you kind of are there and you know the person and you have to make conversation, but that might be a little bit tough. So, you know, once upon a time, this used to be when you were stuck in the elevator on your way to work. And now this might be more, you know, when you're on the conference call, but everyone's muted because it hasn't started yet. But so I think we can all kind of put ourselves into that space and into that mindset. And what I'd like for you to do is please join me in this machine-aided exercise of improvisation. And what we'll do is basically there's a kind of question generator in the back. I'll be running through it, seeing what questions I like. And once I choose one, I'll paste it into the chat. And I'd love for you to answer it. So any of these questions can be answered by yes or no, but I would love for you to give me a little bit of an explanation as to why you would have put one or the other. So if we take a brand new one as an example, do you think intrepid global leaders would ever disappear when prompted to do so? So I might answer no because they would never do that. They are too self-absorbed. So this is the kind of dynamic I want to develop. We'll do maybe five, six questions. And really the idea is for you to have fun with this. And at the end, I'll collate all the answers from the different feeds. And we'll put it into a nice little kind of digital scene that we're sharing with everyone else. So I'm going to pull up the chat on my end. I have it. Great. And I'm going to check for questions. So just wait for me to paste it into the chat. This one disappears. Okay, let's try this one. Do you think detached trees would ever accumulate junk when on a shopping spree? I'm going to paste it here. I hope everyone can see it. Do you think detached trees would ever accumulate junk when on a shopping spree? And now you can go into the chat and answer yes or no one. So I have someone saying yes as they are separated. Yes, because they have lost their roots. They won't because they carry reusable bags, very nice. Of course. And they can store them in their trunk. Oh, amazing. Someone has junk in the trunk. No, because they are pretty detached. Maybe. Okay, great. So a couple more seconds. Okay, I'll wait for one more answer. Okay, great. Okay, so many. Yes, they would be decided to put humans in their shopping carts. No, because they would use strong bark lotions. Yes, because they're shopping. There's always junk coming in with that. Beautiful. Okay, so that was perfect. Let me try to find another question. Do you think virtuous global leaders, do you think virtuous global leaders would ever interrogate passersby when turned on? Okay, so this is completely open to interpretation. Let's see what comes out of this one. Yes, because what's a virtuous global leader? One could only hope they won't grow up as well. Yes, they should since they're virtuous. Yeah, they always trying something or the other. Now they're too nice for this vice. Nice. Okay, great. So maybe I'll just do two more and then I'll tell you just a little bit about how this came to be. And that'll be the end of my session. One second. Okay. Okay, do you think let's leave that one for later. It's too real. Trees we've already talked about. Shopping sprees also. Oh, okay. This one's also quite close to reality, but there's a lot of junk accumulation in shopping sprees today. Any ideas? Yes. It's too close to reality. If so, I can, yes, because it would unfreeze what was prior. Okay. Unless they plan it. Yes, it'll be their new home. Of course, we are addicted to cold junk. Yes, because they're extra terrestrial. Ooh, nicely done, Ravisha. Okay, great. So last one. Let me just try to see if we can get some newer sentences. Sensual bureaucrats. Sea lions. I think I'll wait on this one. Sea lions again. Okay. Do you think unforgiving entrepreneurs would ever avoid each other when prompted to do so? I'm not sure what they're being unforgiving about or avoiding each other for, but please let me know. It's a tough one. Depends on how much money is involved. Yes. And when not prompted to do so. No, because they would miss out on PR. No one's prompted for profit. Really nice. No, they feed off each other's energy. They wouldn't even need prompt. Okay, so there's one more. Actually, I saw that I kind of liked that has gone by. Oh, there's more coming in. Yes. Confrontation is tough for entrepreneurs. Great. Yes, because elephants already. Okay. Amazing. Thank you. So I'll do one more. It was from before, but I've copied and pasted it. Do you think penny pinching athletes would ever choose to change things up when planets collide? That'll be the last one. Yeah, Ravisha is on fire. This is, yeah, I agree. Well, maybe we can close on this then. So I'll just quickly tell you about they're both magnificent bodies. Nice. So feel free to keep dropping them in. I'm just going to show you a little bit about what this is about and what this is all together. So actually, this generator is a very kind of simple structure where I've created a question and left blank blanks in it like a mad lib exercise for, you know, different words to be scrambled within it, right? So if I'm sure you've noticed by now, but all the questions start with, do you think that there's an adjective, a noun, and it goes to a conditional would ever, then there's an action and when a situation, right? And through this, I was trying to imitate this kind of candid process of asking questions about the world altogether, right? So even if it ends in a yes or no, you're kind of forced to wonder why that question is being asked. And so this is a kind of riff off of an existing project that I had and I've written about it on medium a little bit. But so this was meant more for the corporate sector. I'm a design researcher and design strategist. And so I run a lot of co-creation workshops where you get, you know, 20, 40 people in a room and you have them come up with ideas. But you realize that, you know, a lot of these ideas are fairly easy to come up with usually, you know, if you have to come up with something on the spot, it can be tough to kind of come up with a perfect idea on the spot now that that's the point. But there's a lot of value when you take all these ideas into a shared structure and then kind of scramble them together, right? And so this was actually first created for a workshop on rethinking the future of female contraception. And since, you know, so in this piece, I tell a little bit the story of what it means to kind of run these kinds of workshops. But over time, I've been able to, you know, kind of refine this process and adapt it to a few other spaces. So I don't know if any of you are familiar with Unbox, but that's something we repeated this structure to put it as part of the branding. And it was part of a few different goods that we shared at the Unbox Festival in Bangalore in Las Feb or Las Las Feb. It was used at an exhibit we used. And when I say we sorry, I should have mentioned this, but I used to work at Quicksand for the past three years. So this is something I developed there. So we used it in an exhibit. And so this is kind of the latest version of these experiments. We've even tried an illustrated one that will load in a second. But so all of these felt very stiff and kind of objective and have a specific intent. And so I was just trying to create one that was a little more poetic. And Ambika was nice enough to kind of reach out and see if we could include it in this session. So that's about it for me. I hope I haven't gone too much over time. But yeah, thank you very much. Thanks, Hugo. I think that was very interesting. And you gave us a little bit of a warm up on the chat window and how we are already warmed up to type lots of things in this window, lots of questions. So I want to remind everybody keep the questions coming. And our next presenter is Preeti. Preeti is an information designer. And she works at the intersection of design technology and code. And what she's showing us today is actually Kalidas' Megh Doot. And I think part of that. And I don't want to take the risk of explaining the project. So over to you, Preeti. And yeah, go ahead. I'll just set up my screen. Can you see my screen? Yes. All right. So without further ado, I'll just quickly go over what, how this project sort of like, how this even happened. So back in design school, for my final capstone, I had to sort of bring in everything, all different aspects of who I am. And this project basically combines my understanding and interpretation of Indian vernacular poetry. And as a dancer, as a Bharathnathian artist, with my interest in expressive typography as a designer and my limited experience of using programming as a creative medium. I guess it was a combination of all of these. I've had a chance to read and analyze a few of Indian classical works and reimagine them into dance performances. So sort of doing the drawing parallels and seeing how this graceful amalgamation of space and motion and voice could serve to express the emotion is what I was trying to do this project. And if I had to show like some of my inspirations, it's mostly being like, how does this post digital era look like? So when you go beyond screens, how do we sort of augment the physical world with digital information? And through this way, how do we sort of reconnect back to space in meaningful and like beautiful ways? And a couple of people have already done this and like on similar lines. And that would be like Kyle and Zack. And some of these people have been especially like Kyle has been like kind enough to sort of look into the work and sort of give some response from his side, which I'm sort of grateful about. But overall, I guess the idea was to explore type in this post digital age. And how do I sort of embody the entire embodying aspect of spatial interactive and immersive dimension? And how do I take type into that dimension was the idea. And such works have already been done in the West and East. When I when I talk about like poetry and type, we've had like, future sprites, concrete poets and even like Indian poets, like trying like explore type in different ways, like through expressive typography and poetry. But yes, how do I bring it to this era to this time? And how do I see, how can it be evolved and adapt to the emerging media and affordances? And there's a lot of examples there. But going to time, I'll sort of skip and just show you a couple of interesting works that have been tried and done. And going to I'm sorry, I guess I Yes, talking about make it with them, which is sort of like the premise and one of the main essence of my project. Looking back at Indian classical poetry, which was like a lot of profound cultural significance. And it's always been like a constant source of inspiration for artists and for like creative practitioners. And it's not just Kalidasa we've got like Meera by Tulsi Das, a lot of them and just to name a few and all of the works are charged with like rich imagination, which provides like the substance that we need for such experiments through specific type. And given the depth to the test of time, and it also gives you allows you the freedom of artistic interpretation. I have taken Kalidasa's make it with them, and I've tried attempted to say to envision this in as an interactive three dimensional form that moves through space. Now I quickly skip this and go to the actual work. I hope this is audible. So the purpose of this reimagination is to kind of like enhance the emotional journey of the cloud in this particular piece of poetry. So I'll be focusing on the emotional qualities as expressed by the poet. And how do I give it like a physical form through time? And I've sort of used motion and interaction here. And I'll only be showing a couple of stances today. Preeti, I think is there, there's no audio coming. Oh, okay. Oh, you're saying there's no audio? There's no audio. There was only a video, I think that. Okay. That's weird. So I'm not sure why that's happening. I think you'll have to. So you'll have to reshare this screen and then there's an option there to share with audio, I think. Okay, my bad. That's okay. So I've just explored like a couple of things. Yeah, I can hear something now. Thanks, Preeti. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, great. Yeah, sure. Loud as a hundred drums, pit the thunder's sound, soffers drains, the swelling gale breathes through the gains, where Ganga leads her purifying waves, and the mask dure spring frequent from the caves. Your path retraced, resume your promised flight, but in the east, the sun restores the light. The idea was to sort of capture the winds, swelling breath, the waves of Ganga and the clouds path as it sort of crosses all these landscapes. And it's interactive. So basically, I have the form retained, but I do get to interact with the way the waves move within this three dimensional space. And so this particular stanza just tries to capture, this particular sketch tries to capture the movement of the wind, the cloud and the water. Lightened by tasks like these, the day proceeds, but much I dread, a bitterer night succeeds, her slight form consumed by ceaseless pain, skews like the moon, hazen into its wing, disturbed by tears, by those pallid cheeks burned, with visions of her dearer half's return. I have, just looking at the type of a fit form, I've got like two sort of like tenders which try and like endlessly meet, but they get like pulled apart again and again. So this sort of captures the extra and reaction from the wind. So I had a sort of time to meet but not able to since because of the, because of whenever we had, I think it's quite relevant through the current scenario and now I'm like interacting with it. Trust to futurity for still we view the always wretched, always blessed of few. Life like a wheel's revolving hob turns around the world in the air. A person being who comes around. So I guess that's pretty much what I had to show, just a few examples from that. That's pretty much from my side. Thanks Preeti, I think super interesting. So I just had, I have, I'm very curious. I wanted to know that when this, when you were imagining this project and you also kind of mentioned this in the little write up that you sent that there's a mention of space. And so was this, what was this imagination of space? Was it, was it, was it designed or was it imagined for a certain kind of space? And how was it, how was it then people would interact with this piece? Right. It's great that you asked. So yes, this was planned for a space. Actually, the intent was to have this like an installation that people could sort of come and interact with and experience this particular poetry sort of in space and not like, you know, on paper or screen. So that was the initial intent. But also that going to I was like in final year of college, I couldn't really like afford setting up an installation like that. But yes, I would sort of love to that. That's something I really wanted to take this to like an installation or like a space where I can install this and people could just come and interact with it. And the poetry sort of like the form sort of changes to the way people interact with the actual piece. So that's sort of the idea. Cool. Thank you. And I'm sure that there'll be more questions coming your way at the end. I also, I saw some questions in the, in the zoom feed, but also there are about 100 people on our YouTube feed looking at this event. So I'm sure there'll be questions coming. Our next presenter is, is actually I'm very excited about the next one because it's, it's probably going to make us laugh. And the next present is Praveen Sinha. And he's a, he's an interaction designer. And he's also an educator and new media practitioner. And his work is sort of lies between code and storytelling. And today he's going to the work that he's sharing today is about the Indian nod and Haiku. And it's, it's really interesting how, yeah, how you kind of being able to put both of them together in a project over to you, Praveen, make us laugh now. Okay. So we'll start it with a laugh actually. Okay. So, guys, I'll start showing you what I made actually for this presentation. So I'll just stop the video. Is my feed visible? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Spark AR interfaces. Yeah. So this is the Spark AR interface. And I made a AR filter for Instagram actually, which writes Haiku when you tilt your head like this. Okay. So that was the concept which I came up with when I got the introduction to GoPro Jam. So I'll tell you like how I got to this point, right? Or experimenting with different stuff. So I call it leaning Haiku actually. So what happens is like you lean your head and you get your Haiku. That's the basic concept. And from Haiku I'll start. Okay. I got introduced to Haiku's very early on because I'm very, I have a fan of anime and manga. So I used to read these Haiku poetry. And from that I got into a game early on. I think in college days I used to play this game which was called Haiku Jams. So the lovely thing about this app was it's like you write a three line Haiku, but every line is written by some stranger from around the world or from another user. So for me this was another level. The first time I got introduced to Generative Text which was a very natural form of Generative Creativity. Right. And after that what happened like three years back I was in Pune teaching and what I used to do is I used to just stroll the cities and I used to click these photos and just write Haiku's over it. So I used to call them city Haiku's. So something like this was there where I was sitting on a station and I'll write a Haiku by clicking photos and that was it. Like every all of these Haiku's I was just posting on Instagram. So for me Haiku's were not just restricted in the structure because I think I observed something and I wrote Haiku as per myself. Right. And then recently like this year I have been experimenting with AR. Right. So this is some weird things I have been making. So I thought okay why not try to interpret Haiku's with AR's. Right. Because Haiku is poetry and AR is sort of connecting physicality with a virtual world. So I thought it will be very nice to have the combination of AR physical bodies and code. So I used the body motion which was the head and I used park AR as a medium to get a Haiku. Okay. And the thing with body motion was I was I'm just fascinated by the Indian not right because it can be interpreted in so many different ways. You know like yes no don't know. So I thought that I'll take this interaction and I'll code it in my AR AR program. So like when you do the Indian not you get a poetry because it's like a meta that you the action is a poetry in itself and you get another form of poetry from it. And while doing this the first step was to generate Haiku which is legible. So as you can see in the gif here you know like woof bark woofy bark bark barky woof. So it sometimes makes sense. It sometimes doesn't make sense as you can you have you have seen at Jaisal's work also. So I chose the simple format of a Haiku. So it's like the first line is referring to an observation from nature. And the second line is connected with human emotions which you can see. And the third one is like a philosophical truth. And I think when I released the AR filter most of the people were doing the normal head nod left right left right left right. But I thought of introduced the Easter egg which I didn't tell anybody that if you do more left nods you'll get a sad vibe Haiku. And if you do more right nods they will get a joyful Haiku. So I'll just show you guys like how I approach this thing. So when I do this right can you see on this part the left and right picks get highlighted. So I just take them and I get a simple random value through these already populated arrays. So I wrote all these lines to figure out what type of different things you know we could be doing with Haikus right. And for me the best thing was when I published this Haiku right. So people started I'll just finish this right. So it's like this like I'd every time something comes up if people just find it relevant to their own situation somehow maybe. So I got like lot of responses on what do you say Instagram. And so I'll show you few of those what I got. So I think Ambika here also started with exploring this and somehow it got glitchy right. It got layered and that was another fun part for me because you know like it's like people are hacking these filters in itself. So I'll show you another one. So somebody instead of using their own face they use their passport photos and they created a Haiku right. And some people also layered the Haiku on my own filter. So it's like fading the sun and night of the full moon. So it was very interesting that even on a layering phase I was getting contradictory Haiku's. And some people started taking philosophers and started creating their own Haiku's over their faces right. So it would I thought that it's very interesting people have you know like experimented with even something like Shami Kapoor's video. So for me these type of interactions are the part of fun when I'm trying to make such Haiku's essentially. So if you guys want to try it out you can check it out here. I guess I'll just you can take a picture for now and I will share this later on with everybody in the emails. Other than I think that will be all from my side. Thank you Praveen. So how many people do you think have downloaded this filter and how many Haiku's have you made? Do you have any idea? So from the like stats I got I saw it only like for two days which I when I launched it. So it around reached around 3,500 people were interacting with it. So I was also surprised because I I genuinely didn't expect this much interaction on the filter. Nice cool. So thanks Praveen and I'm sure there'll be questions for you and we get to those in the end. I want to also tell everybody that all the work we whatever whoever's presenting we will share all of these links with everybody over an email after the event. So if you've missed out on somebody's links etc don't worry we'll send them across to you. Our next presenter is Akash who's also known as Soundcodes. He's an experimental artist exploring electroacoustic improvisation, data manipulation, algorithmic composition and sensor-based music. And today the project he's going to share with us in fact is something that he made during the lockdown. It's called Phantom Words and it's actually a it's I feel it's a project with magic in it. I feel that it's a it's a really interesting project and it's got it's got some elements of sort of auditory illusions and I think it's this project is going to really really blow us blow our mind. So Akash if you're there. Yes hello thank you. I cannot switch on my video. You cannot which is you cannot start your video because the host yes. Okay cool hello. Go for it. Cool so I essentially do like three kinds of work like my generally the vibe is like an arts education or in like commercial projects. Most of people like call us or relate to us in a sense of like creative coders or creative technologists but for this evening we can consider ourselves as like augmented warriors who are taking like this medium or augmenting it beyond like a piece of paper. Like unconventional usage of language or like the creative usage of languages where like normally the poetry starts similarly the creative use of the codes is also where I think like this sort of code poem jam starts like a short description of the and auditory illusion. So in simple words Phantom Words are sounds which are specifically designed so that they don't have any word or meaning attached to them or it's essentially a noise but when we hear them our brain gives meaning to these sounds and we hear words. This illusion is gives insight to somewhat kind of a general feeling or the emotion we as a listener are having at that point of time. So essentially when we play these sounds and we had an awesome meal so we start we think about the words we hear are somewhat correlated into the idea of food and so on. I'll share my screen. So I did this experiment on so this started as like a tiny course I designed for story of like it was in general more related to psycho acoustics and perception of sound. So after that course I got like feedback and quite a few friends asked me to continue this specific thing like Phantom Words. So I thought like in a lockdown and this is like quite a unique time in for all of us like entire world like locked inside entire world is shut. So we all went through like crazy amount of emotional changes or like perceptional changes. So I did this for 10 days during the lockdown and initially the idea was to somehow like get like a sentiment or like the emotional data of what people are contributing. But while plotting them I realized that I cannot eliminate the insane amount of bias I have present with the data like the way I'm interpreting the data. So I thought let's leave it and like just focus on the words and how can we block the words. So play a sound. This is so here essentially we heard the first three blocks like the day one, day two and day three. And the type size is based on the number of people submitted that word. So five in the first two would be like committed by a lot of people compared to people who send space of fire. Same thing when the second block like mic, wait, fight, make, find is given by, contributed by quite a lot of people compared to like society, file, wing and so on. The building, the background of Phantom Words is quite easy to make like you can use like a software or like anything even a audio editing software would be great. So the basic idea is basic idea is like you take a syllable put it in the left, take another syllable put it on the right, drift both the syllables by a very tiny amount and loop it you have Phantom Words. That's it I think. So Akash, so the word five is actually not there in that sound is it? No, it has no sound. It has no words. It's just a syllable loop constantly. This is so interesting. So I couldn't believe it. I thought that when I heard your Phantom Words when you had first shared it with us and I really, even if I tried to convince myself that five wasn't there it was very difficult for me to imagine that five wasn't there but I have trust that five wasn't there. So I think thanks a lot. It's nonsense. The sound file in itself is nonsense. It has absolutely no word, no meaning. It's just like here it's more deeper like the auditory cortex what we have here like it has a primary function of rejecting sound and whenever and our brain likes to make meaning, make patterns of things and this sort of nonsense because it has the characteristics of syllables involved into it. So our mind is just giving us words. So yeah, very nice. So it's also possible that if I hear the same sound which is what he said if I hear the same sound again I'll find something else I think. Can you repeat it again? Yeah I said that is it possible that if I hear the same Phantom Words again I will hear something else put together. Most probably like if you hear the same sample in the morning the perception is different than what you hear in the evening. So thanks a lot. Thanks a lot Akash and we'll move to our next presenter and the final one for the evening. And so our final presenter today evening is Kofi Oduro and he is a creative coder and a performative programmer who uses code poetry music visuals in conjunction with other mediums to enhance experiences and today he's done something special for draft and he's using sort of life coding tools alongside poetry to show that code is poetry and poetry is code and code is poetry poetry is code is actually what Copo Jam believes and that is that is where our inquiry started. So yeah are you yeah great Kofi over to you. Kofi over to you. Yes I'm here. Hi everybody so today you're going to get a performance mixed with some audio visuals just to showcase that code is another form of writing and the reason why I do all of this experience is to show that depending on the visuals on the sound we hear it might affect how you feel so hope you enjoy the show hold up one second I think I actually might have forgotten to share computer sound. As the words whisper their tenderness stays crisper these words that are just flowing on the top of my head are words that come up from the mind as if they were just from bed the time difference may be a lot but the way the poetry flows and weaves within the code it does say a lot it does say a lot and sometimes our thoughts are just words that are fought as they battle and sometimes we don't know how they linger but sometimes it's just the flick the flick of switching with just a finger because code is poetry poetry is code sometimes it's hot sometimes it's cold sometimes it makes no sense and sometimes it has the ability to put you in success and sometimes as the visuals just keep flowing and you don't even know as in Canada as you know sometimes these days just keeps on snowing but for this it's not a bad thing as all good things sometimes have an opposite fling that leads you to just leave your mind on a road that leads you to sing and sometimes we just wonder and sometimes we just flunder sometimes the colors that we change are just an imagination range sometimes we don't know what changes sometimes we don't know what changes and sometimes we don't know but we go on the pace we look at the sky we look at outer space we look at the stars wondering can we ever travel this far and these are just some of the words these are just some of the motions these are just some of the emotions that get evoked that get emote that go like a ship that is trying to float for sometimes our mind can grow like jack in the beanstalk putting on the motions putting on the tenders putting on these thoughts as we end up to the walk and if you want to enhance this experience that you're currently listening to you can add some words in the chat and i will try to bring them through bring them through in the mood and sometimes we don't know the huge like you see this orange maybe i might be able to change it to blue for what you think it's what you are and what you are it's another star another being that sometimes you get the delight maybe you just got to close your eyes and listen to the beats in the background or sometimes you look at the lights and see how they mingle with the with the sound or maybe you're just wondering how the clovers are looking as they're going around for this is cold for this is poetry this is both so what is the flow does it go upstream does it keep it clean are you able to visualize what you see on the screen does it make sense does it make you tense does it get you going does it get you flowing does it get you thinking does it make you slow does it make you happy does it make you mad or do tears come out of your eyes wondering why you're sad should i add a different beat should i add a different tempo should i make this another show or just remind you of your tv episodes for this is what happens when you freestyle on the top of your head you don't know what directions may come you don't know what directions may run it can get all over the place it can go all over the space it can make you wonder it can make you candor it can make you wonder in if what you're seeing evens going to flow well as i just change these numbers making sure they just don't hinder making sure they just don't linger making sure they just don't sprinkle as they go in the batter getting a bit of splatter i might just have to stop to make this all make sense in the matter as i just reverse the sense of time as i just go with the rhyme and saying lyrics that are just flowing from the top of my mind so i'm gonna end it for now and i'm hoping that you enjoyed this show this poetry is called code is poetry and all the time they flow yeah i don't know if you yeah so that's just a bit yeah super cool thanks kofi i think it was no problem just i'll just start my video um i'm very curious so what are you using i using i could see some hydra in there but what else is there oh what else is there is um uh sonic pie okay sonic pie is based off ruby and there's a lot of live coding languages but what i like about sonic pie i can like change samples i can read my code and how this came about is that i always wanted to wrap on my own beat like freestyle on a code and i'm like oh poetry and music goes well but i realized that sometimes i needed time to like let people soak it in so then i realized that with hydra if i mix all three of them together it gives people another dimension because now your brain is not only thinking mentally but you're also thinking emotionally because you know the way the colors the speed like i'm giving more to the poetry so every time i change a word or change the code you have a word associated so it's almost like an sensational poem you know like a poem that touches all the senses yeah right i think that hydra hydra does add a lot and it kind of very immediately kind of lose ourselves in the poetry and kind of we are immersed in the experience i think it was it was really interesting and i had never seen anything like this before so so thanks a lot thanks a lot so kofi so we would now take we have about five or seven minutes we now take some questions so i'm gonna i have some question actually for uh we've kind of compiled all the questions and i have them here with me i want to start with a question for akash uh akash are you there yes yeah so you know that we have a question that uh for you that can i'll read the question the way it was sort of sent to us that is there an application of phantom words to identify biases or contexts for people you know in the sense i i mean if i'm i'm trying to understand the question that how i interpret a certain phantom sound does it tell tell you something more about me also we can consider this as a rorschach test of like rorschach test is visual phantom words are oral so in itself they don't hold much data but unless and until you further investigate like if you know the grounding from where this word is coming or why this word is coming or some sort of a background of the individual yes then they do give you some greater insight so if you know a person well and you play a sound fight for that individual uh it could give you some insight but if it's done randomly on the internet not necessarily unless and until you take a additional step of reaching out to the individual asking what was the feeling what was the day like and these are yes and do you think that i mean i'm also curious that the syllables that you put in by english uh roman oh no not so first five days i essentially had fun by by these meme videos i took some ridiculous meme videos and i chopped them they were hindi english and like one was like a french parody so like if you see the original video it's really ridiculous it's uh fun because so i so thanks aakash was wonderful uh jay sir i we have a question for you as well and it's about i think the uh i think it's about how the in one of the modes uh how does uh you know when you select a word does it influence the next word in any way um okay yeah so what's happening there is the word that you're selecting the computer takes it it sees what grammar it belongs to for example you selected a noun then it takes that word it goes back to this uh this in this huge corpus of robert frost poetry and it sees that in that poetry piece uh what follows a noun mostly so it got okay the the noun is mostly followed by a dataminer so then it comes back and picks a dataminer from this so it's referring back to this poetry text trying to see the word you selected what what can come next what is the best possibility comes back you know in one of the modes where you work with the bot and the bot kind of suggests to you that choose maybe one of these three words it highlights if you select another word in that then what happens not not one that was suggested by the bot you can totally do that and that is i think what feels nice because like this asset of suggestiveness it's more gentle yeah yeah you can definitely go ahead and do that cool so yeah i mean i'm definitely waiting to explore this when it goes like on the internet the next question is for preety preety yeah the one the question is and let me um have you considered uh using the script in which it was originally the the poem originally written have you considered uh using that for the project or uh why did you choose the script that you have in state right i'm so glad this question was asked so yes in fact my first attempt was to like try devanagvi because this is a Sanskrit piece but uh unfortunately so i have only experience with pfi and pfi wasn't very supportive with the keyboard engine and you know like using an indix script so the support was only for latin in fact that was one of the reasons why i'm sort of transitioning to open frameworks right now just to be able to create this project again with an indix script so that's totally the idea okay cool um i want to uh there's a question that uh suvani has for all of us actually and uh that i think this is uh something that uh she's kind of putting it uh in context of kofi's performance but so whoever wants to answer this can go ahead so the question is also on our zoom chat panel i'm reading it out for you guys now um hold on let me just go yeah kofi's performance makes me really curious about how one can computationally think think off and render the poetic meter rhythm and sonic patterns in core generated poetry uh so i think what she's asking is that how concepts such as poetic meter rhythm and sonic can be interpreted in the context of computational work and if anybody has any ideas or thoughts on this please go ahead yes uh so the question is how can one think the thing i think that we always forget sometimes is that poetry music is very rhythmic in nature what like i remember i learned something about euclidean rhythms is where all the music that we all listen to no matter where you from always has a certain pattern that makes it identifiable so if you're listening to rock music it has a heavy cadence three fifths so like on if you listen to jazz if you listen to music and movies they all follow a different pattern and sometimes we forget that humans we naturally do routines which can be related to um what you call it can be related to routines related to equations right when you wake up in the morning you do your own program you brush your teeth you eat some food we eat breakfast that can be translated into code so that's why in my pieces i like to bring so many different elements to make people realize that okay code is not that scary code is just another extension of my thoughts cool interesting so i have a i mean i have i'm i'm curious about um two things that i want to ask everybody and not um let this opportunity go one of them is about learning to code and a lot of us feel that there is a there's sort of a you know it's it's extremely difficult and it's it's it's something very very difficult to do but do you have any suggestions for those who are right now poets and want want want to probably cross over into computation or or people who are interested in coding and any any thoughts on how you guys started or what should be the smallest first step in that direction anyone maybe praveen you can take it up because you have i mean you also have some connection with education yeah so like i mean i was going to say that since i was a coder initially like i was in computer science engineers for me coding was very natural and the thing was that to get into poetry was a challenge for me like i was coming from the opposite end right and from what i understood is like people should not get uh when you're trying to get from poetry to coding like it's it's just like what kofi said it's just an extension and even if it's simple stuff and if you start coding in the format of algorithms even like basic steps just like i told you like in the haiku jam game people were just writing three lines and all the three people are of different places so it's like it's an algorithm and that's how i understood to bring people like or non-coders into coding like first start writing basic steps and if you if you can understand or connect poetry with those steps then it you will be easily available shift to any form any type of for coding which you learn like even basic something like even spark here is very basic so even you can start with similar things okay cool thanks praveen so i the other question i want to i have sort of going on in my mind while we were planning for popo jam and while we were thinking about draft is that how can we create more sort of inclusive communities around technology and culture and we've got some ideas and i think what draft is going to do in the future is make an attempt at it but do you guys have any suggestions on how can we involve more and more people and and diversify our audience and also the creators around in the in this scene yeah i think it's doing stuff like this because i think things like this it it shows the range of what is possible to code and poetry like a lot of like i like even though i do code and poetry there's a lot of stuff that i've seen that i have i'm like oh that's cool i can incorporate it and i think showing people that stuff that you normally do can be put into both art and tech because these are two industries that people tend to say i don't know if i'm smart enough to be a coder i don't know if i'm creative to be an artist but sometimes it's just as simple as pressing numbers playing around and i think just to show people that there is fun and play can it can evoke people to i'm willing to give it a chance i'm willing to try yeah i think so i think that um uh today's presentations were actually very encouraging and the diversity and the range that we saw today was was very inspiring and i'm sure there was something for everyone in it and and a lot of us will probably become pod poets after this and i hope that happens i'm going to now hand it over to ambika um ambika are you there of course i'm there i'm right behind you yeah i just wanted to first request activity to switch the cameras on all the presenters so everyone can see presented kofi your camera wasn't on is that you're not connected oh no it's like i'm in like an awkward like scenario because it's like it's like 10 a.m here my mom's also there she's not a presenter but she switched her camera on still uh okay so we'll just quickly give a thanks to all of you who came came through for us and you know it's an unprecedented number we were just thinking we'll be 20 of us but as i can see we were like almost 769 on youtube and i think about 20 people in attendance on zoom so far exceeded what we were thinking so thank you for joining us for this most unusual experiment our first draft a special thanks to our presenters uh you go uh jazer triti praveen kofi akash all of them i know akash is a little bit unwell but he still made it uh and has geek of course was supporting and hosting a lot of moral support zainab karthik nikhil for connecting us to has geek prakriti for her design inputs puja and ravisha who've juggled all the chats and have made all the q&a sessions so seamless and also my virtual hand holders when i'm freaking out and as a follow-up to this event we will be sharing an email with all the links of the artist's works uh we used to connect with the community and to learn more about uh competition and politics and art and text uh please share your feedback with us on email we will be hosting a small meet-up on the 23rd uh it's not going to be so elaborate it will probably be something a little more informal uh if you want to know more on that you can be part of our growing facebook community called drafting draft uh so connect with us we're available on instagram you've seen our handles mostly and join us in this fun and exciting new thing that we're trying out and you know see you guys and we're in the same house by the way so thank you thank you everyone thanks again has geek mostly super thank you bye thanks everyone thank you guys take care bye