 Name another podcast like this check and check and check it. It's a unique house. It's your boy ECO And I'm here with the lovely amazing official miss Jamaica. What's going on? Man, hey, man, I'm a I done pulled up in Houston man. Hey, I got a and I'm here with the legend You know what I'm saying? It ain't only just legend clothing, but I'm here with the legend man My boy done key. Hey, y'all might know I'm a little key key man But hey man, this dude is here man We finally made it and I'm glad about it. Thank you. Thank y'all for having me man Respect big respect for the podcast man. Are you you watch it? You watch it. I'll do you don't give me no He told me in the mold gossip Anybody in the world, but that's my guy man. Hey, man. So man just good to be here in Houston, man I love a man. I love the spot man. Oh, I'm gonna be real with you, man I just love and appreciate you for letting us come in here and set up. Hey, man Just loving the whole vibe just want to make show man. Hey, man that we give you roses while we here, right? Oh, man It's well, man. So I know how you do it. I ain't gonna even I like to take it way back cuz I like to fall in love with people for who they are and not really just always for their craft So I need to know who you were before you were a little key key I need to know about your parents his siblings where you grew up I mean give me the whole history from as far back as you can remember Little Kiki is little Kiki always been little Kiki. Yeah, he's not it's not a stage name or anything like that It comes from my middle name. My middle name is little key And I always use the reference that if my mom called on the telephone She gonna ask to speak to Kiki why Kiki yet, you know, I'm saying so it's a it's a family So it's comes like I say it comes from my middle name and I Come from I wouldn't say a single parent, but I would say that my my parents is a unique situation. My my dad Was a older kid. My dad had me at 50. Hmm 51 to be exact and Were you his first or last? No, I'm his last. How many kids do you have? Man my dad has One four five six, that ain't bad. That ain't bad. I'm still trying to get to six. Yeah, I'm at four I'm trying to get there man. She got to go to work He said he told me he didn't want no more I didn't want the last two But I didn't want them I you came as for that and now I got to give it to me. Oh, I had to give it to you My dad like I say he he was um, it's a unique situation. He was an older cat, you know older than my mom He actually lied to my mom Told he was a different age. He looked young, you know, I'm saying a lot of people tell me I look young My dad had great genes like that and um, and it was just so how much younger is your mom curious My what my mom had me at 28 and my dad was 50 wow to 51 yes, sir You know I'm saying when he met her he told he was 35. Yes, she went right for it. You know I'm saying y'all need to check ID's So like I say, it wasn't so much of a single parent. I wouldn't say that it was a generational Yeah, yeah between and so and my dad was he was already past fishing and Then and going to the park and throwing the ball. He's a little older by the time. I'm 10. He's 60 Yeah, I'm saying then he died when I was 18. So, you know, I kind of Was there for a while though? He was there for a while, but you know, we stayed in separate houses But he would die. I got a great love affection your mom had of any more kids. Yeah, my sister my mom had um, I also have an older sister and um You know like I say it wasn't so much about that it was a single parent It was just a generational gap like I say in around 14 or 15. You gotta understand. He's already He's getting to that. How does that feel growing up having an older father like that because I know a lot of men be like I'm gonna have my kids at whatever age But how does that impact a child growing up knowing that your dad is that old? Well, it impacts it in a small way Well, I wouldn't say smile It does impact it because like you say you're not getting the same nurturing as a father That's probably 35. Yeah, you know the football games and the going fishing and all that it's not that he doesn't want to do He's kind of past it. You know, I'm saying then you're growing up in the era where Their mind thought about the day from the era. Well, everything is a drug weed. It don't matter Yeah, it's weed is like Once we once I made it to the streets I Would say that like the song I'm a Jesus kind of true like I made it to the street They kind of he kind of washed his hands of it, you know, he kind of was pushed back because they from go to work Eight nine ten hours a day Graduating get a job. I mean go to school all day graduating get a job They not from entrepreneur in these streets. They definitely don't understand the streets So when I was talking about all this rap and all this this was beyond him It didn't like I say passed away when I was 19 Probably told you that you ain't gonna do nothing with no music. You know people at the older age Hey, he didn't even say that It wasn't even just like that. It's just like, you know, this is newest freshest music, you know, this rap He not into that, you know, I'm saying what's up with a job? You need to get a job You need to go school get a job and I was kind of on early. Yeah, I'm saying I was kind of real popular at 1718 I'm kind of already rolling. Yeah, when did you find your love for music? I always love for music 1314 I was a guy that used to want to Memorize run DMC and all these I was into the ivory side of the game the New York side of it the California All that Yeah, the first person you heard that you you're like Man, that's cool. Well, I'm gonna tell you a crazy story My next door neighbor for a long time had me thinking he was the sugar hill game man I was about 10 or 11. Mm-hmm and the man done the He'll hop to the hippie to the hippie I thought it was him for years When I finally heard it, I couldn't wait to get back man, you've been So I was in love from it from that, you know, I'm saying like and and this was my first Introduction to rap and music and all and he was and I was like man. I'm going to school. Tell me listen, man My uncle next though. He this man is a rapper. He's doing this. He's doing that so That was my first love for a den like I say I'm from the from the East Coast generation of rap when I say that LL cool J fat boys run They live that morning. Oh, yeah, what just when that radio came out you you really like nigga can go hard Like it was a little softer before, you know him and him and I'm gonna say them for me him and Eric B And where I came I'm all that them to right there Your taper You know I'm saying so this if you could come back to school and rip and repeat that This meant something so that was my first introduction kind of the music and then it switched over to the curse I call the cursing rap when the NWA easy. I was hiding those tapes You know my mom would let me listen to that and then just from that We start trying to get into him because I'm a real street cat I was in the streets at 15 or 16 and when I say in the streets like I didn't we didn't at 15 to 16 We had curfews and none of that no more. We weren't coming in. I was already I was already having cars at 16 and Moving and living in the weed house and we bad, you know, you know, you said cuss the cuss era But but you got to say too short in there, too Yeah, cuz he right there with the NWA you you people When when was it freaky tails came out? I remember I was in high school. I was like, hey What's he where it's basically what I'm saying is West Coast. Yeah, when the West Coast music came in too short Easy easy, you know, draining them bringing them, you know, they were serious about that was hiding those tape I was the one when the run DMC was still sort of friendly We went to Astro world and seen them. Oh when NWA came like you you it was all That changed my life but you've been in the music industry for a while and you've seen the Elevation of the rap game where it went from rap is more trying to educate you about, you know Being black and you know helping you and so forth compared to now is mainly about Woman killing all of that other stuff. How do you feel about? That graduation Um It's like this man. It's all about your preference. That's not one of my preference I I dig it and I'm down with it, but I'm a vibe guy So the music that I make is about a vibe the music that I listen to it by the vibe I make music to make people feel good. They want to get dressed. They want to look good At the same time I could talk about doing 15 years in the penitentiary You need to get out and do I can kind of mix it, but I'm not so much into Pro black activist rap because I my music is a pastime for me You know, I get enough information from social media and enough things that I got to go through As far as being a black man when I turn my music. I want to want to be jamming You know, I'm saying so I don't be really wanted. I don't knock it It's just not something that I've always I'm always I'm from Frankie Beverly in May. I'm from a good time So even when I'm making my music making my hooks most of the music gonna feel about me That's just like my new album. It's about riding and you're getting clean and you're drinking Yeah, man, it's sunday and you might watch the car or something. That's my kind of music You know, it's a vibe and I can switch over and talk about, you know, street situations or street stories But for the most part my music is a vibe. I'm never really into the music. That's so much about You know, brother brother brother That ain't me. Well, you know what we really need to talk about the elephant in the room. Let's go The elephant in the room, you know Is uh knocking those down with pipsy. We really need to talk about that I'm like, why the hell is this the elephant? For me, nigga, it's the elephant in the room So I just want to know what that was like and because I always get me a pimp store out of everybody So I'd be like anybody I get on the table. They'd be like, this nigga crazy This pimp this pimp story kind of different because when pimp came home to do that Yeah, first of all, that's my sample. You know, that's a sample of me and a lot of people, you know, people use Those samples a lot a lot. Yeah So when red boy cow me and asked me to do the song, he let me hear it at first and I heard I was like I really didn't want to pour it to that, you know, I'm saying because it because they self dated, you know Not the sample what pimp was talking about. Oh, oh I was like, I don't really want in, you know, it was a different it was a lot of beef in or something I just didn't want it. You know, I was like, uh, but I asked them What did he want me to talk about and red boy was like be yourself be what you do and knocking those down It's about knocking those down and riding and hold and that's what it's about. Yeah. So that's what I did Yeah, I'm saying so pimp was kind of upset with me about it because he wanted me to chime in Yeah, to the to the beef. Yeah to the beef. I didn't want to put pimp, you know This is my god. I know this man. He is hell on You know, I just like the fact that when it was done Like your seasoning on anything you houston and a nigga came never really when you come I seen a nigga rap down here about a first of the year It was the first of the year and a nigga was trying to rap like you I heard it I seen it every time I see a nigga from houston if he ain't rapping like you ain't from houston I mean, it's a sound brah I'm telling you and you introduced them to it A long time ago and you probably did it because it's you but a lot of niggas than grabbed hold to it And they go with it, bro. You don't hurt it. Yeah, so and and it's a thing because you you you built a legacy man And and it's just like Man, dang, you know, if I come if you don't come down and do it like this nigga Anybody I'm not Anybody is not pimp though. I can't say pimp pimp different But but like you guys man as you see just all the stuff that you brought to the table, man Thank you. Let me let me stop right now and say thank you because nigga You helped me a lot of years. You don't even realize it. You know Even when I was when I was going through things locked up. That's when uh, um, you know south side was out I wasn't out but south side was you know But I had a headphone and I could feel myself. I'm like, dang. I'm free. It made me feel like I was out You know what I'm saying? So that's night. It was crazy. You did it last night at the road. Oh, yeah I was mad about I saw it all over the man bubble lieutenant called me man. I'm going. Yeah I'm gonna say where you going a bunny called me. I said nigga. You couldn't call me Beautiful Epic moment last night He said sold out show right sold out show how how long I know it ain't been many of y'all in that rodeo like this going in How I often do do, you know, uh, hip-hop get get pushed off into the rodeo. So never So how you've never seen it ever. This is the first time Yep This is the first time And this is the thing we was going to go to rodeo. Anyway, okay We're a part of you know, we're not into the end we people This is a staple and I would say that you either going to the carnival To the rodeo taking your kids you're part of told to be a part of black hair So they can actually get to perform in the middle of the stadium. This was epic How did they come at you about it? Well bun put it together. You know what I'm saying bun That's what I tell people too, man We all get opportunities in different spaces to be great. Yeah, you know, I do this I do that and uh For him to get that opportunity man. He was around the right folks They gave him an opportunity and a lot of people just find out about it And I kind of knew a little bug about it a minute ago Yeah, and it it transpired it came together and um He reached out and he could have he could have done something and made it all about him And he gave an opportunity for the city came out man. That's like crazy Me slim bun zero Willi D flip poke it pow wow the toy you're lucky Um, I'll shut that oh H town Knock in the bootchip Lele Um esg, um, they brought him out 70,000 I'm gonna be a boy. I'm gonna tell you Niggas off of the top bed when I see him. He wronged for that man. One can bring anybody out. Yeah, I know it But I'm talking about bobo this nigga came on my shoulder. Niggas gonna leave me Nigga left me. You know, he left that when I get back. He we gonna do the show even now. We're not doing it no more He's gonna mess that all the way up. It was nice, bro I heard it. I know it would be he sent me the picture what they had a millionaire That boy performed. You know, this is the second time he done performed in history, you know Since he called himself done left. Yeah, my guy came out man. It was It was it was epic man. Man, so How do you you know, how do you process like when you go into the studio and you you know, you for to do your thing or I could talk about the roadie, but how do you process the music? Like do you do you write a lot or do you go in there and you hear a beat or how do how do you do it? um My process is a little different from it used to be like I'm not one. I'm not in the studio. I'll make okay I don't do that. Like people tell me yeah, we're in studio man 12 to 6 in the morning. I hear them with what I was doing You know like Like I kind of this and I do I like I get the Like I'm gonna call my producers And I'm gonna get the music they going to send it all I'm gonna go do it I'm a vibe I'm gonna get the vibe and most of the time I'm vibing in my space where I'm cool If I'm smoking here if I'm doing this whatever and when I go to studio, I'm at work man, my engineers to tell you man like I'll be having to tip them. Yeah, you know because Just say it's 50 60 dollars an hour, man I've been in came and ain't got three songs done in an hour before wow, you know run through it You know I'm saying so I've been in Shit, they've been in done 12 songs on me and been in made 150 dollars. What was the first studio that you went to? When you was young um And how did you feel walking into the first studio? It was crazy because we had came from nothing with screw tapes Okay, and screwhouse was just like this we're turning tables on the microphone Yeah, and and people really thinking that we rapping on these beats slow nothing They going fast just like record they going just like that and then we slow it down So my first transition was going to the studio was really going I want to say it was um this dude named fresh and he had real to real. Okay. See Boys, I'm from everything. Yeah real to real a dad. Yeah See, I really wrapped on this shit. Well, you really had to but get ready to do a song You had to put four vcr tapes in yeah, yeah to hit the yeah I'm from that and draped up and dripped out the big three in the morning I've done that in in the middle of a room on a microphone with no headphones. No booth That whole way hold and that's the one of the biggest songs of my life So when we was young we got introduced to the studio nan the studio as much did even my whole album Don't mess with texas we recorded that in a box about this big that was the bathroom We had a little room The back part was the studio and the front part of was the bathroom We went in there and shut the toilet out of there and made it to the boot Recorded the whole album south side everything right there. Wow, I'm curious because then you know how Y'all are very musically inclined right? Yeah, you can hear certain things. So That song that you're talking about back then and it's one of your biggest hits Technology has changed and sound has changed over the time how Crisp and clear and so forth has become can you hear the difference with that? Than compared to if you had redone it and do it now What's the difference would be what's so crazy is yeah, you it probably could be mixed better It probably could be louder in today's time that song cannot be redone It's been tried 10 times it's been you cannot first of all that vibe that energy that voice that young kid that It's not it's you're not going to get that energy back. You know, you're not going to get it any back so the I never really can tell the the If it's different from a sound standpoint from then to now because When you play it is just still so big it's still the same. It's a raw cut. It's it's mixed and now mixing is Back then they put more in the mixing. They put more time in and everything they can mix and record that hour Man back then man. Them songs taking four five hours So the way that song was mixed. It can't be redone and and trust me I've every record company every deal I've done any type of they've tried it. That's the first thing they want to do You think we can redo another it just can't be redone. I just wanted because you know how technology has gotten better and stuff So I'm like, I wonder if it would be better Yeah, you're right, but we're gonna redo the video Okay, and guess what we're about to do we're gonna redo the video it's the 25th anniversary of it this year It came out in 1997. This is the 25th anniversary was just the 20th anniversary, which was huge We're gonna redo the video all new football players Athletes every all types of thing, but we're gonna use the same song Hey, that's that's the best way to do it because you can't get that sound back We're gonna use the same song same lyrics everything. We're just gonna make the visual look up to date 25 years later Yeah, I gotta ask you um like when you what was the process you would s u c Was was niggas was different back then it wasn't You know right now you got to sign this and sign that well, how did how was y'all process in the fact of y'all together? This we we wasn't processing because we wasn't you see what i'm saying We wasn't planning it like I tell you like the difference between us and swish house Slim and paul and chameleon and all them they was Wrapping and going over that they were trying to be rappers. You know we going doing demo like I've never done a demo Yeah, I never done a um I never done a demo. I never done a talent show. Yeah, you know that we came straight from screw tapes to get into the money so so We didn't I tell people the history that we was making we didn't know we what it wasn't playing man Let's do it out. Let's do it until 1996 97 one screw dropped the first tape now We starting oh, I want to tape and kiki won't do but then the times are going to screw house and collaborating and us becoming The s you see and these different mythical figures fat pat little kiki big mold put we wasn't planning it It wasn't something like let's get together man. This was hood That's why it was so big on our side We didn't care who heard it if the north side heard it who had if you heard it out of town It was about us then it's pretty i'm talking about the early years 93 94 95 96 building it now 96 97 By the time y'all get it it seems like we're in theory and yeah, yeah, but it never was like that We just was a group of cats from different neighborhoods that were all Taking place and having something to do with screw house. It wasn't screwed saying a man y'all come on That wasn't even studio. It's just a man. We paid to do the tapes You know like we're not we're not going over there like we pay and it's not a bad thing We love screw. I don't take nothing. We paying screw tender and and then later screw went to make a killing on When screw was making a killing on them tapes man, we weren't even looking at him like he Yeah, oh, that's no money. It wasn't like he's selling a thousand of them and then we coming over there on Monday Hey, what my We were saying that you know I'm saying we were just Enjoying the moment and it was taking off and I think The most organic thing that we got of it was becoming who we became and just a few starts standing out Like I say, that's why so many people claim screwed up clicking So many people want to be a part of because It was about being a part of screw house You got some of people that were screwed friends and his homeboys that just more endeared to him as one of us I tell people all the time me and screw ain't best friends But we I'm the one of the most important people when it comes to the music side of it and what this thing turned to a music He may have somebody that he want to play dominoes and talk shit with Every day, but what they did for the music. I'm the most important factor to that How did you stay you you stayed counted you wasn't into a whole bunch of beef I ain't never really just see you going back and You knew how to move in the midst of this and you was a young man. I had a lot of beef Yeah, but it didn't seem like you know what I'm saying It didn't seem like like a lot of when I think of beef I know the niggas it had the beef that I could see like a whole mixtape just come out, you know, because You know, I'm saying I always had a A big thing to that one of my Attributes to this is me saying I don't have no disc tapes. I ain't never you see what I'm saying That's how I could tell because I always gave people the opportunity to blow up on their own Yeah, you do it, you know, I ain't gonna give you no fuel You know, I didn't see any people who tried to diss me and destroy them You know, you're gonna come back eventually you're gonna you want to apologize or leave it alone I let hey man, if it ain't causing where I'm finna lose my life Or I got to do something to you or protect my family. It ain't really no beef to me like that You know, so I've had some back and forth going but not nothing where I'm finna make a mixtape about you I'm finna make a whole song about you. It's been done to me. But it's it's it always fueled me when it happened to me It always motivated me to just not to do another one to go to Give you something else That you know, yeah, so you was in you you live both worlds. You signed to switch a house How was that going from SUC to Both movements How did you how did you end up like like what I know it was a move on but like Was it big to you that you moved to switch house or Signed with them because y'all killed it when you did but that was a business decision. Okay that most people can't make I was more enshrined than what I was doing. I was a part of the screwed up clique But right at that time I had a legal situation a bad legal situation that I needed to get past But besides the legal situation, we wasn't in favor at the time What I mean by that is, you know Pat had to pass away screw passed away This going on we kind of in a situation of trying to fight back to just to keep our Name good as far as SUC and what we've been doing is music because I didn't drop tapes Hulked and dropped them. We just kind of added what we're about to do They kind of at the rise They were steady reaching out to me to get a deal done I knew that this was going to be a big decision based on the side of town I was from And the main reason that I made the decision that I knew that I had the talent to take care of it and in that they were Pushing our type of music doing what we do what we made what we built the city I just felt like I needed to take the opportunity For the wind that they just kept on accident And I knew that it would be something I didn't actually sign with swish house Me and tee fairies done a deal and the tee fairies was a part of swish house Okay, and and I wouldn't take it back from nothing in the world, you know saying but I really feel like I knew this I was like man, it's gonna be a lot of criticism for this It's gonna be what's the best thing for me to be able to get out of it I got to go hard. So I got to come with this chunk of the dudes. I got to come with this I'm a g I got to come love by a few 80 by me. I got to come a ba I got to come gangsta grilla and I got to give it to him So I don't think if my it wouldn't win over well if I'd have flopped with it You know I'm saying so I just knew that I had to work hard It was a great opportunity and I wouldn't give it back to for nothing power while I learned a lot from Going on the road with power while I learned a lot from just having a new day I was from being drinking and smoking and missing shows and tired and not a and this was a more professional situation of the power while it's on time and We gonna kiss all the babies in the room. It's a thousand people in there. It's gonna be a thousand autograph We're gonna be there extra three hours and I just learned a lot about being on time You know sitting up straight smart doing the things that me coming from being issue see and just being gangsta in the hood Getting this money and being a legend But this was a more professional side to give me ready and it was a one album deal and we got it done And it gave me the legs and the foundation to be who I am today Did you learn by seeing or did you learn by him actually telling you those stuff? No, I learned by seeing by seeing I learned by seeing power while it's very very humble You know when I was in situations and got in trouble and had to come home And um he was doing he was at it was at points where he was 25 Thousand I showed and he was splitting it with me You know to let me do chunk up the dudes at his big shows and everything and really doing not only just me being his favorite rapper But you know reaching back and he had he had no reason to do this You know I'm saying so I really appreciate the switch house thing was a Was a was a great moment in my career even though it was controversial It did a lot for me as a person on You know from a learning stand for and learning how to admire other people that and I went over there Did my thing Mike Jones was platinum power. I was this and such such I just knew that I was going to come over there and tap that microphone All right. Yeah, I seen it. I seen it and I remember that was on my mind Go hard go hard go hard and I started with that ABA And we hit him with that ABA and it kind of took me back to the mixtape feel That's what they kind of wanted. They hadn't seen the mixtape Because that's kind of what happened with us when we let the mixtape game go and we started doing Platinum in the ghettos and and hardest pits in the litter And and big mo we kind of left the screw tape game along We stopped doing the mixtape and they picked right up on it. Yeah. Yeah, they picked right up on it So when I got over that one of the first thing they wanted to do was put me back in that element of freestyle in it And we hit it big we hit it big on ABA man. Just to be honest It was bigger than love. I feel hate about me. Oh, yeah shit man The impact of ABA was Legendary Chunk up the deuce really is on that album. Yeah, you know what I'm saying because we hadn't got there clear yet We really hadn't got the deal for me yet. See it's so many stuff going that Mike Jones had a deal over here Parwile had a deal over here. They was trying to get me a different deal. You know what I'm saying instead of going through Um asylum and Warner Brothers, they wanted to give me a different deal So we went through universal but that was a transition I had to go do some time in it in that that's why I missed the break them out video I had situation so it took a lot and I really commenced wish I was for what they've done Of taking on me because I brought a lot of baggage. I came over that with warrant wanted I had baggage, you know, but I didn't but me being a G. I didn't take a dollar upfront These people were platinum. Yeah millions. Yeah, all I wanted was an opportunity. All I wanted was gangsta grill ABA I'm a G chunk of the dudes and I knew that that would give me a platform when I first got there man. I was at I had back guy back down to $5 a show I gotta ain't got all the way back to where I got to you and bird man came together on that song It got to be a G to the day that I die What how did y'all do? Well, we signed the universal and I wanted Wayne You wanted Wayne I wanted Wayne just on the album period. He was on universal I love Wayne. I wanted Wayne on the album when we sent it back He wanted to be on it him Man, I want in and he didn't he's slick. That's my bro He charges for the for the record, but he charges for the video And and I love bird man But it ended up being a gangsta song, you know, I'm saying it ended up being, you know It did a lot for me because As an artist when you have a big song like south side It's a breath of fresh air and a breather when you get over to hump with something else Because it gets to the point man It was hard to beat that song man, you're hard to beat it Yeah, I already know that You that's a big song and and and it happened to be one of your earlier songs Man, I sell a lot of records. I make a lot of money millions and I can't get away from this damn song You know what I'm saying? Somebody they say I ate the song but I have to say who was that? I don't remember but it makes them the most money. Yeah, they have to say You know what they said they said because at the time that they did that there were a different place in their life And right now their frame of mind is totally different so they don't like it anymore because that's not where they're at right now Well, it's not so much of that for me. Like I say, I couldn't get past it. You know what I'm saying? Like damn, they just amen. I can make some gangsta, man. I'm a rapping. Oh you go Hey Y'all know anything. Yeah, I was But it ended up being bigger now Than ever Did you know it was going to be? Did you know that that was gonna happen? No, man, that wasn't even the pick like, you know, like South side was we was just tripping, you know, it was so much beef in the city We couldn't even do it at first. You know what I'm saying? Like we it was like they was thought we was talking about the south side of our town and we had north side south side beef going on So when we got past that part of it and then they started moving it into a dance thing It just started taking off Crazy and then it kind of leveled off and then when social media came back. It's just boom I got a guard just thought bless me. I own it. That's the way at first. I didn't even own it You know I'm saying that I own it. I got my catalog. I got my everything and then from that just took off So There's a lot of um rappers singers everything that watch young people who watch our platform And if you had to advise them about anything about the industry What would you say to them because I realized there's so much it's it's more than just going and making music It's a lot of paperwork. It's a lot of you know, what should they do? What's the first thing that they need to know? Fine, I was for you Just you can be in this game more than just being a rapper And a lot of people get caught up into the talent part of it and this ain't for everybody That's the saddest thing about it. It's not for everybody. Everybody ain't gonna make it There's no kind of way but that don't mean you can't have success in it. It's the same with me I tell rappers all the time just because you're not going to be drake away That don't mean you can't live successfully in music That's good. I've made millions in music and I've sold millions in music But it don't mean it all had to happen at one time. I remember when I started doing my um Building my brand and becoming 713 and getting ready to do my own company self-made and all that The the big thing at that time was Man, you gotta sell a hundred thousand. You need a hundred thousand I just figured out man. I was gonna sell a hundred thousand. I didn't care if it took five What's the difference? I did 12 tapes in one year 12 of them are here. I did 12 tapes in one year one per month And at the end I didn't care if it was a quarter million whatever two at the end of the year I did what I did if I'd have woke up in January and said I want to do a hundred thousand in a year I want to sell a hundred thousand records this year. I just put a concept in my mind of I don't care how I get that hundred thousand if it's 10 on this one is 20 so the answer to the question is take advantage of the opportunities that's sometime in front of you because um likes and followers ain't customers I'm saying that likes and followers and and and you know It's it's it's a difference Making music and making money off music is two different things. Yeah, real time. You know what I'm saying? So my whole thing is People shy away from opportunities that's right in front of them because you know Sometime they reaching for some stars that might not be a man. You might be a great CEO You might be a great podcaster You might be look at the the greatest example we just seen the other day With the two dudes that were Kanye camera man Netflix gave them 30 million dollars All we did was ride with Kanye and we had the camera We didn't wrap we didn't so my whole thing sometimes man It's a thin line between trying to figure out what's for you in this game And I have a lot of partners man a lot of people man that they Put so much money into and so much time into trying to be A rapper or trying to be an entertainer sometimes that may not be for you So I always tell the young entertainers and the young moguls and the the bloggers and all Find your niche find your fit and go hard Because I've had some musicians who say that they made more money being a producer than actually being a rapper And they didn't know that starting out that you could make so much money being a producer Yeah, and listen man like like I had to start telling myself stuff like man, I want to make a million dollars I want to do this here and um I had to live with If I make it in Texas, I'm cool with that If I make a million dollars, it all came out of Texas fine You know I'm saying until I and you have to train your mind to start accepting things that Can move you forward, you know I'm saying instead of It's some people man set a ceiling to they self and if they don't touch that man They give up completely and you just got to keep going I'm a I'm a true testament. I keep going man. Even with my music. It never was about the sales Um a million sales a hundred. It's about believing in the rap These 50 albums on my wall is a testament of believing in the rap, you know, I'm saying like I I had 15 20 hours before I knew streaming was coming now streaming here man All my app my fans can get all 20 of them anytime you could take this song you can stream But I never knew that was coming. I didn't miss cassettes. I didn't miss CDs. I didn't miss stream NFT it don't care what it is. I'm um adapting to just to what's going on just like something I posted today and um A quote and I was talking about just being consistent because a lot of people get discouraged because things are not happening for them right now Um and sometimes right now can be months Of working as right now and they get discouraged, but I'm like no somebody's watching you You just don't realize who might be watching you it's just that they're watching your consistency because Being a boss is so many times that you see people who do good But they're not consistent and you don't want to take them under your wing because if they're not consistent now without you They're not going to be consistent with you So a lot of times people are watching talent, but they want to see that consistency Yeah, I I just like I said it's certain things that I had on I'm like I'm gonna ask him this I'm gonna ask him that but then I get in here and I get to talking to you And I'm hearing the stories. I'm getting caught and lost in the sauce. I can't be getting don't put me in the sauce Don't move me leave me over here. You know what I'm talking about I wanted to ask you about like just going to the studio Do you would you when a person do a verse with you? Would you rather me email it? Or would you rather than be in the studio with you? Email you the verse. You know, you won't see that. No, no It's like this Man, I do so many You know what I'm saying? Man, I just can't go man. Listen man shit This this is a problem. You know, I'm saying like, you know, I'm saying because you got some dudes that Man, I ain't sending that goddamn money unless I'm finna be looking and it ain't about you finna steal the money I want to get a picture. Yeah, you know, and I get it. You know, I'm saying I do get it But sometimes I'm like man, listen, man You want this on Monday or you gotta wait all the way to Saturday till you get here, man And come on man. So, you know now if you hit but let me tell you something 70 or 80% of the verses that I do now They want to see you Yeah, they don't they they pretty much want to and it ain't about if you finna they ain't worried about the money they want the The vibe the the what go with the social media the posts to pick that they want everything they go with it What you can't knock them. You know what I'm saying? You can't pay extra for that Man, let me tell you all there's something why we talking about this here, man This is a great time to bring this up You get what you pay for Yeah And a lot of artists man you y'all This this is and I and this probably gonna be great for people that do verses of me because they probably be thinking this You won't call me and drew me down Man, please. I'm telling you All right You might do me now, man. I got 1500 2000 with him I might shoot a I might shoot a free throw because that's what that is to me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I can do verses all day. I can do an album in a day. I've done it You know I'm saying like ABA gangsta grill me a teeth fair done it in a day. Oh, so so so Shoot shooting. I mean doing a versus like shooting the free throw So here it is. You want to drew me down and pay this cheap price for this For this verse and then a week later you want to ask about a video And now I'm finna tell you something crazy, right, you know, I'm saying like, you know Instead of just being realistic. Amen. We're just gonna take for me to get You know a video song everything because the video and song is different. This song got to shoot that free though That's just like buster. I gotta come in put on the shirt. Yeah I gotta put on some clothes. You're gonna put my face on YouTube. Yeah Now I'm telling you you saying how much See we to work that out and talked about that because you're gonna get what you pay for you want to So in other words, you want this cheap ass verse. You want a cheap every you wake up, man You can give me $2,000 man. You can get made a hundred million off the mug and that's not gonna make That don't make sense. You gotta you gotta make sense And then let me tell you it's different strokes for different folks me and poke talking about all the time Man, I got people man. I just get on the phone. I got a soft spot. I've been engaged my first. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, man, it is what it is. It's entertaining man. Be honest a lot of time Yeah, it's it's all about it's all about how you talk to him What if you can get anything out of me? It's just based on how you know, so some people man just gotta come to terms with The engagement of how to do music or how to do business That's just really what it is. Let me ask you man How important is God in in your in your you know in in your everyday walk of life, you know like You see what I'm saying Because a lot of young people need to hear this man I wouldn't just ask you that people need to hear that you can't just walk around here You got to have him somewhere in there. I don't play This is a big time. Oh my god. I have to stop there because I think I'm preaching the same Go ahead That's a real question because at the end of the day people a lot of times account they self out, right? They feel like you know, because sometimes people show you too. Holy Sometimes they be putting God this way and that way in this way, but really to be honest with you He love you anyway, but you can mess up. I walk my faith hard. There it is So what I'm saying is but a lot of people think I messed up so I can't get back on man. One of my biggest Come-ups and what made me start flourishing Is when I start living by the concept man, I ain't miss nothing that God had for me nothing I'm talking about Most of the things that I have now he gave him to me when I was this money I got now I had to be mature. I would have blew it spent everything All of it so most of the things that I'm into now I had to mature until I like I don't drink syrup and all these different things so Different things that's coming to me man. God is everything to me. You know, I'm saying so because I know that Where I came from and how I got here, so I'm not over preachy and churchy with it with other people You know, you you know religion is very You know, so yeah, it's a touchy subject But for me, you know, I walk by faith completely, you know, I'm saying and I just live by Everything I'm supposed to have I got it when God gave it was thought I suppose and everything I don't got I'm not supposed to have it. I love it man. I love it You have to walk like that because I really believe that God put us In the place he needed us to be to touch other people You know what? I mean, there's a reason that you because was there any time in your life that you didn't believe and I really Or that you It might have been you put him on the back burner Yeah, my faith may be strong It was time when you young you looking over certain things like, you know As I as I became a father, you know, amen. I'm very big on energy, vibes, carmas I'm big on all that man. My son didn't tell you man. I'll be telling them all time. Y'all can't get no money Y'all not in the frame of getting it, you know, you're doing this here your seeds that you're planting See, I'm getting this money because I plant great seeds and different things and I you know I'm entwined in in reality of doing right man. You can be a great kid You can do but y'all you're not in the you know, you every time you look up you wonder busted your town flag Yeah, my son Ben's just got one to bust it out. You know all different things have to do and I bust I'll tell you they Man, you ain't in favor. That makes sense. So being a father right now. How many kids do you have three three? um Have any of them started like being in your footsteps of music Great question. Oh you mean like a microphone Mm-hmm. No But they're into the business they into the business What do they do? um I feel like my older son I feel like he he don't rap, but I feel like he's very very very musically inclined He knows exactly what's going on what's happening. What's up? So I'm I didn't make them choose this. I gave them their own life. I didn't introduce it to I want to go to school You know, however it comes out of you, you know, you love it like my my younger son He's an athlete. He played ball. He go to school like I say for computer science all boys. I got all boys Are you done? Yeah, I need two more. You see how you think it? No, he need two more. You need a girl daddy's little girl You know how that goes? Listen, man, my kids have taken me out Listen, I'm trying to tell y'all they cause they cause way more grown. Yeah. Yeah. I already know what What once they're over 18 and you're done with them. No, no, no that's where it starts Again, yeah, that's where it restarts. You know, I'm saying like man listen, I think my kids were Cheaper younger. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, man that going to the sixth flat that could They need cars and business. I gotta buy them. I already know where you come Oh, no, I'll be like, um, if I'm putting this you need to put half because I'm not just gonna give you Not you're not gonna respect anything No, I'm serious. I'm you know 14 I knew it's gonna get whatever because of him not because 14 I got a 16. I got a 16 20 I'll let man. They but you know What I I spoiled them. I'm riding, you know, I spoiled them rotten. I'm mad about it. They can bite you in the butt though It didn't beat. I'm beat. I don't got a piece of ass right now Shit, it didn't it didn't happen It didn't happen. But no, you know, man, what I try to do is um Be realistic with them and I don't force nothing, you know, I don't have to be too tough Be tough when I need to so I just introduce I'm actually Bringing them into the business now letting them do the merchandise side of it Just kind of getting acquainted with being around these different atmospheres and that but never for you got to do both You know, you can't you can't do this without taking care of your business first Did you find yourself overcompensating with your sons? I thought about that earlier because your father wasn't really just Wasn't doing a lot with you because he was an older, you know father. Did you find yourself doing that overcompensating? Completely overcompensating But I ain't mad about none of it. No, no, it's dope. I got great stats when I like this is a very big thing to me like I compare this to platinum Gold and all this man for as much money as I make for as many shows as for as long as I ain't miss nothing I ain't miss the football game. I ain't miss the christmas program. I ain't miss the pamphlet I ain't miss them. I just told my son. You saw all of them walk. What? Walk pampers pick everything. Wow. I just told my 16 year old son the other day, man You know, we I tell him this all the time, you know, we because I love to tell him You know, I've been 16. I'm on three times Why are you trying to run that game, bro? I already been 15 three times What he be saying? He shook. He can't come over there for that. He can't come over there. I've been 15 three times My daughter would tell you my daughter would tell you it's a different age, mama No, but see this this is what this is what I'm telling what I'm what I mean by you know I've been 15 three times man. I try to I didn't overcome I did overcompensate by by doing but I'm not I'm not mad about it because I this was I lost my train of thought but this is what I was telling him Man, my son is 16 years old. He's been playing football five six him too, but five six because I own lily football five six seven eight nine 10 11 12 13 14 15 ain't missed a year, man Man, you didn't had a hundred and 50 football game 200 football game. You know what I mean? I seen 200 200 How do you say that? I don't care Let me tell you something about me some stuff First of all, I don't stay on the road. I've been let that go when I take care of business I take care of business like like if I'm coming to y'all. I got a show in Dallas at 12. I'm leaving Houston at 7 o'clock I'm getting there 11. I'm performing at 12 1245 we back on the road. I don't smoke. I don't drink. I don't do none of that on the road My drivers my drivers they gotta we've been to turn this bike around So I had plenty nights of coming from Dallas and show right back up to the lily field at 8 o'clock in the morning Man, I coach lily field on the team Watch the kids like every man. I don't care about no south side rocking the stadium getting money Cans and see the miss. I don't care where I'm at. I ain't missed a game Now they might have he might have had 200 and I might be at 198. Yeah. Yeah, 199 I ain't missed nothing. But in your in your entire life What would you say is your biggest achievement? Consistency dope On everything and let me tell you, um longevity consistency and I would say Whatever word is fun. I never give up No matter the circumstances. I'm um, that's why I tell people it's easy for me to accept the word legend or accept All the homies that's given to me because I I'm I accept all the ridicule all the pain all the hurt all the down talking all the derogatory I live through that see this you gotta have skin for this this skin ain't for everybody So when when years when it wasn't going my way years. I'm signing with swish house people ain't happy years I ain't selling no records years. I'm still drinking and smoking years. I'm still going to jail. I never gave up Never gave up. Why did you stop drinking and smoking? Because it was just it was time. I didn't stop smoking Why did you stop drinking I stopped drinking though? You know I'm saying because um, it was just became time I was drinking syrup all my life and I ended up catching the case at one of my studios And I had just got out a lot of trouble a lot of trouble and the judge was just like, you know what we really spared you so If we convict you on this we're gonna fire the 99 So it was a bunch going on in my studio. Anyway, long story short. They had me on a pretrial From november 2010 2011 To april 2012 couldn't drink couldn't do nothing. You have to take a pitch test every time you go to court So I was just all five months. I told god if I beat that case I never drank again I never sip another piece of syrup not an ounce not a juice not a tray not a cup not a walk not a act nothing And that was 12 years ago and I never I ain't been back since how hard it was it to just stop All right, once I got off on it It was the hardest thing ever But my freedom was on the line for that five months and I had just got out a lot of bunch of trouble So it was going to be more of an embarrassment to be back in trouble for some drinking and and And I just got out of all this 10 year trouble that I was in So once I got it out of my body from november I never came back and when I say never came back not a sneak Not a little bit not a comeback not a put nothing You know people say the hardest thing is not when you're in trouble and you you go cold turkey It's when you come back out and you're around all your friends that are doing it. I love it. That's my that's my that's my biggest thing That's that's my biggest. I love it. Hey man. You can see that That's when I knew that I was strong and that was my first testament of discipline when I could come around man It's it's everywhere. It's cups. It's there's everywhere. And let me say something I'm not a hypocrite. I don't come to the table and start be like what are you doing? Why are you drinking that? No, this was a choice I had to make for me to change my and it changed my complete life Got my family back became a better father became a better hustler became a better entrepreneur You know I'm saying got my faith back with everything I need to do because that does slow you down Well, it changed my life completely. I've done it 20 something years straight So to get away from it and to get my full health back and come out of it with my kidneys come out of it With my health come out of it. I was blessed. So I don't talk now If you ask me if you my partner you ask me then I'm gonna give you my You know opinion about it, but that was a big step for me in my life man I did and I know it was a big step because it's like it's not popular and you know You you come around I've been at places like that and they'd be like man. Why he don't drink? I done heard that for years. Yeah, I'm just in there chilling. I have a good time regardless You know, I don't need matter of fact. I think I'm having a better time than you You know what I'm saying, but you worried about it. What would you worry for? I think a lot of time people are insecure in what they're doing because they really lost In who they are self-awareness is real Yes, self-awareness is real and that really helped me out. You know what I'm saying that that kind of saved my life on um Moving forward with it, man. I just I turned up after that You know I'm saying that just went to like I say man It was just crazy how different things started happening out the blue man I started getting pieces to my catalog Without even having to go to court for it. It's a blessing. You know, shit just happening You know, I got open that man. I was in deals bad deals And I just called the people and told them I wanted out. Man. It's a bad deal. I want okay out I was like, man, this shit is god-favor. You know, that shows like when you start walking in purpose Yeah, he starts opening the doors. That's all that is. Yeah, I wanted to ask you um, um, so Interverses between you and Slim Thug. Mm-hmm How would you take him out? Because y'all got a lot of songs and I saw I'm trying to I was trying to think of who I would be It's like this man. My they work man Slim my brother and he he's had he got great songs. He's been in great situation. I always tell people this Shout out slim thug my bro. He the most consistent on this. Let me tell you what he's the most consistent on showing everybody else love Okay Hey, man, show me a post without slim name on it I'll give you a hug at all. You getting in there. I don't care what go down your timeline if slim ain't over there I'm gonna give you a hug He love everybody show up man If for this city, man With him being one of the bigger stars and I get back to what you're saying what he been He showed for everybody. That's what I told him about legends dinner. I appreciate you man because that was a dope dinner I wasn't there, but I was only out D page. You just struck a nerve You niggas had on black I'm sick of it now. I'm coming to the party. You gotta come to the party. It was not Y'all not leaving me. I got to set in the truck. I salute everybody and I salute him for no matter what man He always show up for everybody. Now on the verses. I say this Slim has a situation where you have deals. So he have some big songs Um, you know with for me some big artists. I always tell people this and it ain't just about slim Hey, man, we come to the backyard. I'm gonna make it tough forever We do it here. I'm gonna make it tough forever Man, I don't I'm making it because I got some hey listen people don't get to see I see it. I see the wall. I'm not fake. I you can't miss it. Let me tell you something. I'm gonna make it tough here Yeah, it's hard. It's tough. No, I don't know. We take real. I don't know everybody They never done us the verses with um south. No, no, no, we got to do some I got it. I had to ask that question because you try to figure out who would Let me tell you the city of love it because the novel of the south of love it and we got we are we both we both got Rolled but I always tell people man. That's that's not that's in if you ask him He pretty much gonna say the same thing bro gonna say the same thing But I just feel like that man with anybody man in the backyard I'm ready Yeah, I gotta ask you this question because this here question comes in from a blog a a blog a friend of mine And you say you got to ask him this man because I say I'm going to see him man. I say I got I'm going You better come on No, man, I can't go but I I said, well, you better try to get you might not never see this nigga. I don't know I looked up on I gotta get to it man. I didn't have my phone hijacked for a second. Uh Trio talk no pill talk I've been seeing him. Yeah, he says What draws you so close to ad and ad being from east texas, you know, you're gonna see And how does he and how do you feel about texas as a whole and are there any Other east texas artists that you listen to man, it's like this I done some music with ad back long time ago. I've seen it long long long Well, I damn didn't remember I didn't I didn't remember how they telling me about I didn't remember It was that long ago. Yeah, so man when he got out man, he was so adamant about Recreating what he had left off. So he called me again and do another song man Let me tell you something was going to be crazy to you And I ain't just calling him this but it's like I love penitentiary I just liked him penitentiary I grew up under I grew up under a lot of penitentiary niggas man A lot of next door neighbors My partners a and even my little time was doing man. I love Man, listen when I'm in the car was I tell people how I was in the county jail And I used to have this cat man and uh, he did 30 years flat. Yeah. Yeah He ate all my food because he had all the stories So I let it he my bag was oh He's gonna come over there and tell me about the two hours of these stories man Man, we eat up everything I got And al d We used to converse and we used to talk and al d is a penitentiary Yeah But this dude Stories for days I'm a great debater. Oh, you got you some man. Are you better than al d because I heard him Boy, this man Debates me every day Five six seven subjects. I believe it and I tass his ass No, man, listen, that's my bro and listen, you know what it wasn't just that I was in love with his even though I was trying to talk him out of his hustle I'm like man. Well, you stop selling rocks right here with this shit. You know But I loved it. I loved in it. He he believed in it. He meant that he believed in itself, you know Hey, man, I want to do right. I want to live off this man. I'm gonna do with it I I told him from the beginning. Listen, man, you can get talked out of that shit in a minute It's tying the cross on over, you know what I'm saying, but I loved it I just love this hustle man. He just became somebody that If you got a good sport argument, you're gonna you You all me all day. I'm a august sports all day. So Just the person who he is and he just got a lot of elements of shit talking that I love the curve And we just grew a good bun and I want to see him do well, man, because he he really a rap junkie He really love it. Hey, man. Listen, man, anybody that's trying to come out to do the right That's just like bruster. Yeah, bruster. That's my god Yeah, anybody that's trying to come out to do the right thing man. Hey, man, listen So yeah, that's my guy and as far as East Texas, um Who else? It is somebody else in East Texas that I do jam. It's been a minute, but I I love these things I was just in the act of the day. I'm always Yeah, my people Tyler. I'm always down there. So and listen people man I always tell the east Texas people or anybody that's from outside You got to take advantages of the opportunity the opportunity man. Houston in front of your face You got to get in that car and go that's right. You got to get in that car and go to Dallas because sometimes man, you know Man out of sight out of mind. It ain't that the talent ain't there. It's the resource It's no different from when we had the resource ourselves against california against new y'all. We didn't have the resources um Def jam and university not downtown. Yeah russia simons ain't On the corner, you know, man, that's a great opportunity to wake up and all these media Ld asks me that the other day what you think why you think I would like man That media opportunity is a much when they growing up at 17 18 got they demo tape They able to go take it to downtown to yeah. Yeah. Yeah 100 scope out. Yeah, man. I got this demo tape. I just got it Yeah, I ain't no telling who I can get it to so that's the difference So I'm saying that to say in east Texas sometime With the the anything just us, you know, I'm saying if you need to go to Atlanta Wherever you need to go sometimes just stretch out win your hometown Like you should you should win your hometown and then try to take that buzz to the next bigger thing That's right. Whether that's Dallas. What does that's all it be sometime for the smile A lot of play a lot of people find love outside of their hometown first before they even find their home Sometimes but that not not it not the houston niggas different. Yeah Yeah, a lot of these niggas love don't know how they get embraced. Who have came up Being a star here can be a curse I'm trying to figure out why because you get put in the box Because you you you can live so good and so great. You can you'll start skipping over everything else What else happened? Yeah, it didn't happen to me man. Listen you Let's get besides millions that I would if somebody tell you man listen man, I'm gonna give you a beautiful home I'm gonna give you two three cars You're gonna have nice vacations You're gonna make enough to save something for your kids And you can pretty much travel and do what you want to do. You don't have to put a price there. That's a great life And the average rapper can do that here Yeah, make it that's dope. Whether that's 200,000 out here. I always tell my kids man dudes they be like Man, I want to try making a quarter million a year first and see how that feels before you just You know, yeah, I want to make me making a million dollars. It's great for man. You a man I've seen a rapper the other day. I forgot what his name was. He was on there. He was laughing But it wasn't funny to me. He was like, man, I make 30,000 hours a month He said man, I make 10,000 hours on streaming and I do me four five features a month They thought that was funny. Wasn't she funny about that? That was beautiful. Yeah, exactly Hey man at 30,000 hours a month you can live great You better know it if you're not blowing it because a lot of them be blowing it if you if you're buying a chain Every month now does not go too far if I want to ask you about I want to go back to ld You executive approved produced his uh up and coming album Yeah, you did. Yeah, that's what yeah word got back and uh This guy so I just want to know who's all on This new david street out man. I told ld to do a real album Okay, I ain't saying that he hadn't that's what this first thing came to my mind when you said that like Has he not done a real album before take your time think Stop telling my man. I'm going to studio friday. You got eight of them You go back next year. You got another sub now I wanted him to just Take advantage of opportunities up man. You're gonna get key. I'm gonna holly poke in you're gonna put it together with it Let's put let's make a let's make your album where you can make your impact You know I'm saying where you come back where you don't have where you start No, you want to go back into the frame of every month. I'm just saying you know I I tell them stuff like this like I do man get you seven tracks And get two off of them Seven tracks two off there get let the producer send let one to produce your mess with leave whoever let them send 10 and get two Come back get get five and get one Come back listen to four of them and get one man, you're gonna know you got Everything that you really really really wanted he watched me put legend together He's the white child man. It was taking me months To do a song. I never really like I said, I done an album in a month before I done one in a overnight some of my best work, but Having the concept of really putting I'm real big on effort I think that God gonna bless your effort the more effort you put into some God gonna bless your effort You know I'm saying so that's what I was just telling them to do so taking it It's it's like talking to a wall, but I say who all gonna be on it Is he was he jugging at me to make me ask you that because he said you gotta make sure you get with him about it I say well, I'm gonna get with him. He's very calculated, ain't he? Yeah Yeah, yeah, man don't go up in there and mess that up with that man. You know I love it boy. Listen, I won't trade that nigga for nothing ever since I met him I'm like you but see I come from that so I'm like damn this nigga special dawg He got his own way of doing things man. I'm gonna try to diss what I'm gonna say I'm gonna get him the legends Okay, you know to make sure he can get that part up and then man somebody. I don't even know some of the young cats You know, I think I think the nigga them played me. He got me to come up here and ask the question He's gonna get this out I got it He's gonna be good, you know I just want to see him do the right and I just took that role that he asked me I ain't let me tell you something It's ain't even about money with me with no idea Good, I got money. I just want to man I just want to see you in a situation where you can flourish and what you're doing If you can put that same amount of hard work into how you doing it Just put in a man his efforts already been blessed, you know, he's running in the kikis and boss talks and greg streets God giving him if you do the right thing, that's what's gonna happen. Yeah, you sound like him That's what I try to give him a bigger That's because you deserve it. I'm like, no nigga, you I appreciate it But you're doing the right. He's I'm just like you just said You know, this is the game my big So top three artists of all time dead or live, that's something that we do on boss talk top three artists dead or live Any genre? I don't care. You could say Paddle of bill You love padded notes. You have to You know, I'm sorry. I ain't just you know, most people you post all with you. I'm don't get I'm gonna put me in Ain't gotta worry, but the greatest artist of all time. Number one who often to say Michael Jackson Was coming at me about that for the longest you the one got that nigga over there mad at Mike Mike It ain't nothing tougher than Mike Nothing Nothing you see that Ain't no way in the first of all These the kind of stats might got right here. That's the killer Ain't nobody gonna never I'd sell it. No, that's not gonna happen ever Who gonna take it on This the coldest part about Mike man, I had the gray I had all the records before streaming Then they just added me to that too. Y'all Y'all like I'm gonna mr. He missed that. It's hard. It's hard You know what I'm saying? So it's over from that and then I tell people this here man. Imagine this man imagine you being 17 You 18 I'm 16. We in the prune. This is we love women these girls. They howling They screaming they going crazy You 17 you going through what you 18? But they howling for the nine y'all Wow Yeah, I'm talking about they falling out. Yeah The women they get it. They taking their clothes out. They going crazy. I'm talking about they they they lose in their mind You 17. Yeah, you 18. I'm talking about they going they they can't step but it's far with nine y'all brother Imagine the story is that Mike was I'm talking about y'all standing out there y'all dancing and y'all doing everything y'all do Then slide on to the side with it with a 10-year-old and get right down He even come through and a 10-year-old feeling a trip on the nigga was a legend and a star at 10 I don't I already passed up these sammy davis's um Smoky robinson. No, our main one brown I'm gonna pass him by the time I make it to 17 man. I'm I come it's over my whole childhood. I gotta play with drab's monkey I'm a monster monster. You're right, man. I get it from nine to till I died till it's over. That's your boy Mike. Hey man, what's your favorite Michael song? I'm All of them I'm a mic fan So when you were younger, did you have a dress up in the the jacket? I didn't get the jacket Hey, that's still me and my mama still You can go That jacket was everything I didn't get it. Number two. Number two. Yeah, I'm gonna get you Number two for me would be oh, let me get back on number two for me would be Ice cube is very influential. You like ice cube. Somebody gave us ice cube a while back. Here's your number two Because he really the first rapper that I thought was man. This nigga is a bad bad See, I like to run Peter. I liked all that LL But I ain't like him like I like that nigga cube I was gonna say pop but cube had something done something to me before He's a businessman It's that once upon a time in the project. Yo Cube is the toughest, man Like from as far as The dude who could and I man, so he was very influential to me so too and number three Me gotta be you and I don't blame me. I was gonna see if he was gonna forget to add here So no, yeah, I ain't I didn't even think about that twice man. Me really number one You know, just I'm just going I just had to I just had to say Mike Even over Mike Mike of my son in because I like to remind him two two times a year Mike the coldest alpha never Even Chris Brown, that's you know, that's that that's baby Mike That's baby Mike That's baby Mike because you know, Aldi came on and talk about Chris Brown No, don't do that. Don't do that. I'll be saying is a listen I could bet right man. Mike is so influence. You know, it ain't even about the joint. It's about man. This is This money Mike Yeah, the glove booms. Yeah, that Mike you gotta be a love if you if you born in the In the 90s You that might not register if you born in the 70s 70 you understand what the hell Yeah, you know what I'm talking about Because you remember thriller comes out every year and Halloween that will forever be a Halloween and I just love him man. I grew up with and I always look at that like that Man and as far as a rapper though, you know, I just always love ice cube. I love him You know I'm saying so I want to ask you so I know you've worked with so many people But if there's one person that you haven't worked with that you would love to work at who would that be dead or alive Dead or alive Prince Prince Why Prince Prince played 27 instruments I understand but when I think about when I think about people that somebody would work with I would think about the chemistry the music that we could make together Why do you think that you and Prince would make good music together? I can I can I can rap on anything. I can do anything You can go listen. I'm I'm great with I'm great with music. It's not always about me I'll let Prince be Prince And I just do my thing. I like something that it's easy to say Jay-Z It's easy. It's easy to say I don't want to say something that I think probably I want to say something that would have been off the wall to happen You know, man, so I still got is there anybody living that you would Other than Jay-Z, of course Because you don't want to say it. I like I like Jada kiss My dog you said it. I think not because of what he did I got Not because of what he did Me and him go back I'm saying that because When I met him what I say because I'm a soft. I'm a Texas nigga. I don't play nigga when I nigga I don't play When I see that nigga, I say I got to respect this. He remarkably He remind me of me. Let me tell you what I mean by that not just from a lyrical new york standpoint That's they think from a standpoint of he deserved way more credit than he did Just man something else, right? He said that He deserved way more credit than he did and watch this. He'll guess what I love about the verses He go God. You asked me that. I believe in God. Let me show you God Jada All that respect and homage that you deserve. I'ma give it to you in one night one night I'ma let you work. I don't know what you've been through But all that respect and homage that you deserve to be up there with jay-z DMX Naws and all them people I'ma give it to you one night one night Have you met him before? Yeah, yeah I'ma give it to you one night and I feel like the same for me, you know, so I just feel like man I'm I'm I'm very respected in my culture and where I'm from but you know, it could be more it could be You know, it's a lot of people that missed out on a lot of parts of my career And I feel like that about jay-z so I just feel the same and I feel like You know, most of the time a lot of my homage comes in one night Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's some things like last night went hard I know I got to see this on youtube everything on youtube last night was big I got Me not being from Texas When I came I always you know being with him always heard about Texas not Texas dallas and houston always having a thing where music is concerned Why is that so and how can we make that? What do we have? Well, I'm gonna be honest with you being uh, let me hear it penitentiary football I think I think that's that's the big that's the big That's the big divider So you don't think they have a have a Music is as much a divider as the football and the years and the see because it go back to the stillers I mean not just stillers to the oilers and and the oilers and it was a big thing way back You know it was being it was something to where we would and we were good. Both of us was good to be honest with you Dallas was better Boy My dad this is I tell his story. I love to tell it My daddy Had me at 50 Right My daddy moved here, you know, so at 50. Let me tell you something. My dad was born in 1926 1926 So when my daddy moved from waco to houston The oilers wasn't playing in the dome. Okay, they were playing at robinson stadium. Yeah, let me tell you When they got ready to build robinson stadium Revamp it it was I already built old but they had to revamp it for the oilers to play They had men my daddy stayed in the cuny homes in third ward That was five minutes from the stadium. You can walk to it. They had men who worked 12 hour a day shifts to build it 12 hours a day seven days a week Promise them tickets everything when the state was building. Let them get no tickets. Wow No black men. They let them get no my daddy don't like no houston teams Oilers rockets astros nothing I grew up in my house watching the cowboys He rooted for the stillers. He wanted he wanted the oilers to never get through the steel curtain The only rocket he ever liked it was a laser one. So that's not me But this is the house I grew up. I didn't grow up watching channel two or such and such with the oilers on I didn't grow up watching The rockets or the you know, I grew up watching the other channel 26 with the cowboys on That's how I got it, you know, that's how I started liking the cowboys and you know, besides now with 92 93 Coming I was oh, of course. It was easy to be a cowboy there because they yeah, they went but I'm I'm a Texan I'm a rock and I'm all that because I'm mr. 7 13 I live but people are always behind you a cowboy fan. I grew up in under nothing but Cowboy situation. I gotta ask you this and then you wasn't about to get out of here without me asking you this Kiki the legend the album the project It was so dope, bro We jammed it all the way. Oh, man. Did I have fun without you? No, man. Why about to break the wonder niggas? I don't play niggas. I don't play about y'all, bro. I don't play I don't play. I don't play. I'm still gonna answer that question about that Dallas and houston Yeah, yeah, but I don't play about that. So we got to talk about that project man. You put a lot into that project I know how I know how you do it. I'm from my ear what I hear So when I see and I love sauce Walker being on that thing boy Whoo, you don't know what that do for me. See that do something for me, man. That was big. I know Be I'm old nigga. I'm sitting back like that was dope. You know what I'm saying I've been trying to get that boy on my show. I'm gonna get him Oh, you gotta get him. I'm gonna get here interview. I'm gonna get him. I've been I've been I've been calling Megan I'm gonna say it right now. I'm gonna get you Yeah, that's that's coming. But anyway, how did you put that together? How did you make that happen? um, man, um I was in a situation where man, I was just doing catalog music Okay, add to my catalog not necessarily not saying that I'm not in tune with it or going hard as I can But I was doing music for my bottom line All right, I'm making such such right now You know when I drop this album I'm gonna be making it. Yeah, so I used to strategize in that way I'm gonna drop two hours a year. I'm gonna do this here. So man, I dropped self made three That was the last of that series and it kind of um, I just it was in the pandemic So I didn't put a lot of features on it just was me and I liked the response to it and everything But man, I was like, man, you know what? When you get to this stage, man, you either Feel to go into something new or it might be it And I'm in a situation where I don't I don't got to do it no more. Yeah Yeah, I like it too. I like that that's when you can do what you want to do it. Hey, man, let me tell you something What I'm doing right now. I'm gonna be doing Man, and I don't I don't got to do it no more. You know, I'm good But I was like, you know what? I'm gonna put a great effort in this because I have a lot of people that always, you know I might be in somewhere and run into a juicy J or something We'll do it and now I'm gonna start taking advantage of some of those opportunities And man, I was like, you know what? I got wrapped up into it and I was doing it and I just went to feeling the vibe of it coming together great From the production to how it was coming. And man, like I say, man, I was doing songs that were taking a month That's something for me because I'm quick to the draw. You know what I'm saying? So I'm doing songs with a hook on it. It ain't got no words. I'm having to take this off and even with the week from Texas So I was like, you know what Kiki? How you gonna come out? What's single? You're gonna come? How you gonna do this? You know what? I was like, man We stand up so much for Georgia We stand up so much for Florida. We've been standing up for New York, California Since I got in this game It's been really important for me to get people to live up and stand up to Texas and just represent So I was like, man, you know what? I want to do a big Texas song and man I made that drop a man long view Tyler San Antonio Austin Dallas Beaumont port off man. Let's stand up man. We finna stand up And man, we put that together man. We're gonna put the hogs on here Slim Kiki zero the biggest in the city. I already expect them. See that's what we're gonna say When you did that that's when I was like, dang, that's a move. We're gonna put so I'm used to seeing you I know what y'all do. We're gonna make a little controversy I love it And that joke it took off that whole It took a bro. It's doing Crazy like like like it's like it's streaming. Well, you know what I'm saying? So that was that was very big So that whole album and once I got that going I was like I just started doing it man justice league man juicy jake big crit. Yeah. Yeah, I just thought add to man That man big crit. That's my guy right there crazy But but and just a j2 but Working with dj chose. I'll be looking at you how you working you you bridging these gaps I'm an old nigga that I hear a lot of old niggas talk about the young niggas, but I don't see the action So when I see you link With a younger cat that that that's where I'll be like that's dope because Other people can see man I got a great vibe with him because He's he makes his ass shaking music. He's great at it. You know him and bkeen. That's what they do. Yeah But he can make some street music young boy Fray Joe bang Kevin Gates Look, he can make some street music. He's very musically inclined. So sometimes I don't even know if this should be the single I just love him Man, I'm making this the single because I love you. You know I'm saying we're gonna do it because because if I call him He picking up. Yeah, he called me. I'm picking up. So I had already started that trend of doing that in the self That's what self made series was about Going to get all the self made stars. So I started early in self made one then when I got to self made two exo um, dj chose Calvane all it so it always been important and that I didn't get to finish that trend on self made three because it was the Pandemic I couldn't get the artist. I was like, man, you know what on legend. I'm going to get the legends I'm going to get the zeros to Everybody I'm gonna put Devin the dude on there. It was on it. I heard it, man Boy, you know, I'm a big Devin fan. I'm gonna put Devin on here, man I'm gonna go pow wow and then I'm gonna go get some of these youngsters You know, Chuck E. Trill and man got jade all gonna add jade all the young hog, man man So I was I was just like, man, you know what I'm gonna do it And one of the reasons that I do a lot of text is all this and add LD's and all this because I remember being I remember being a LD and being a person that And I couldn't get chris browner. Yeah, I couldn't get this here, man And I just remember She that I was happy about being able to get a ball or being able to get scar face or get bun be or whatever Because they was in there and that made me so me being who I am I wanted to make sure that I gave them younger artists a person that they could get man This may be I watched this here. This is a big giant justice lead track But I'm gonna put jack freeman on it Hey, man, you you're different man. You get I'm saying this is a big crack track big crit. What can I do? I'm gonna go get toby Man, it's toby. So I'm gonna get bun. Okay. Let's go bun crit and toby and little kiki real diverse record So I just want to come in together like that. And like I said, man, I'm Everything we and we're LD actually from the shoot no cap this week Supposed to shoot the last week the rodeo just I wanted nothing else to do but the rodeo that rodeo series one Man, it was I don't don't call me. I can't get nothing. I can't think Let's knock this broke because it was It was something, you know, I'm saying to be worried about so we knocked that out and um, man the album man I'm This is the first album in a long time that I was extremely proud of not saying that I wasn't proud of the I was extremely proud of the effort that I put in and everything I've done from the photo shoot To the videos to the legend party to the sway I got 85. So I was coming up most talk I got everything and just my effort that I put back into it made me feel good about it Did a great job, man. Hey, man, we love you, bro You know what I'm saying? Hey, man, this big love over here for for you. Go. Yeah. Oh, yeah Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah Man, we love that. Let's it's I think this um The way we do music is different from them because we like we say we came from the screw tape area and just to be honest I was screwed tapes didn't Go that way As hard as that. I tell people this all the time Dallas is a very big market and their market is more up If you notice and I would love for them a lot of Dallas artists don't do a lot of shows here Or Austin, but they go up Oklahoma Arkansas that way which is great because to be honest when you're trying to get a deal you need to break the But Dallas market a little bit faster than you break it the deal the the majors love the Dallas market It's just that I I think we had more in based on the screw tape era. We had more individual Legend it's more of a legend city, you know, I'm saying of all these different and and I will I will um Our fan base really follow us very very hard, you know, I'm saying I don't from a standpoint I don't know if Dallas fan base followed a Dallas artist as hard as the Houston fan base followed the Houston artist So we don't have a Dallas Houston thing, you know, I was in Dallas like we got love there I was there a lot of collaboration between artists here and artists in Dallas I don't really see that a lot not a lot because like I say their music wasn't really coming here And we have a we go that like for instance, I'll tell pokey pokey wasn't a guy that did a lot of Dallas He always mentioned we dally love you I love dally I go to Dallas a lot. You know what I'm saying? I go to Dallas a lot a lot Slim goes to Dallas. I switch house got a good movement in there. So it's all about The the music, you know, I'm saying the how it transitions together like for instance the um We did more We did more probably with Louisiana artists Because they're closer and we're more tired to them. But the point I'm trying to make it. It's not a It's not a beef thing. Like we don't like it. We just like like like for instance, man We we embrace when when when yellow had his movement trap boy for me and chief got a whole album You know what I'm saying? Me and chief got a whole album. I go to funky town a lot It's just I think that like Big tut I'm done with all of them. We just didn't get a chance to Mesh music together as we were going like our era is a little bit before them and um But but from the standpoint no beef though. Uh, no, you think screw will ever come back I don't say that it left. Let me just I'm glad you asked that question because I can answer that for you Yeah, I'm gonna be real which when screw listen I'm a ugk fan, right? Uh-huh and uh when screw came, you know, that a ride dirty, you know You know what it is. That's when the when the you know, you start hearing You start hearing that that y'all was saucing it up over here. You know, I'm telling it now I'm an old nigga. So I'm watching everything now Super tight and all that we were kicking it. I tell me something good nigga. I was At the danger field. I always tell the story track me but when it hit that ride dirty era It was it became real real texas like Houston screw back drop man, and how did that that that's something I would like to know like What do you think how did that happen? I know They were signed to jab But how did this how did that sauce up like that? They were real texas boy though, you know, I know that I know y'all it ain't about how up street But I'm just saying they will it became a dj screw. I guess and they locked in or how did that happen? You see what I'm saying man They admired us as much as we admire them. That's just the truth. They were bigger than us It's not what I mean by bigger than us. I used to look up to them for this. They got a real tape. See see um Rabbit talking about a tape and having a real tape was do this thing You know, see it wasn't about money for me back then and they got a real tape. I want a tape Man, you can go to sine wave and buy a tape. Yeah Music it was some music some music Sound waves Hey, listen big music. Yeah, you can go buy it. This was serious You know, this is real The screwhouse and we got a cassette that you can you know, right? They got a real tape You can go to the store. Yeah, I don't know how much money they're making out. Well, I don't care I know that people just don't mind man. They I you know so the thing about it man is we We come like I think man how we all suffered because we wouldn't had the assets to The bigger thing we really out the mud. We really people thinking this cleave man. We got the trunking for real You know, I'm saying we're really doing it like this So I admire them as far as what they've done. It didn't matter if they was with jive or whatever They was just learning the game. They could have been much much bigger, but you gotta understand we coming from a situation of They trying to learn the business they didn't came from being with Big time records and now they over here with jive. They doing this here and a lot of times man These companies always try to come change you who we were you may sign you For this here, but then they come try to change. So I think man that One of the factors for UGK was just staying them underground kings and and being who they were So them hooking up with us. They admire us. We admire them. We were listening to their tapes and man They wouldn't they were knocking on screw though. This is what I'm telling you Our tapes were full of culture You ain't got no choice but to get some shit out of there and be talking about we talking about it And now you're talking about everything we doing we drinking we smoking we riding we holding we candy We that's what made us so big because our tapes in these free styles, man We just rapping about our streets our stars our cars and what's happening people loving it, man I got you. Yeah. Yeah, I got you now I seen that white card. You bet. I never bring the dollars because I got something for you on that Anyway, that's what I do. You heard what I said Now, uh, you know, I'm serious about it too. It's jacked up right now in the garage Working on it But it's ready don't drone trip when they come down off if they're gonna be ready And I'm trying to find one that I can read from scratch I built this one here from scratch that I got that thing nasty boy. Hey, that's that's the colors that thing right frame up 170 that's okay. Oh, I got you should have let me seen it. I shouldn't be see For real that thing right man The thing I could say to you about the the the scene down here when them when them who was the first person you seen pop Trump Um The first person I'm now Yeah, the first one you seen that thing pop up and come down the name floyd And you probably thought it was so weird No, I loved it. It was I love that. I'm a car fanatic. I'm just saying what it did. What did it didn't have did have a like Floor is the person floor that surround by sound is the person who was first doing a pop trunk surround by sound That's what it got. Okay chunks around my song. So I can't remember exactly the first cars that was this By the time it got to us It was already a trend Amen, listen And now they stink they stink out more now. You niggas done got fly y'all going to jail You think it's going to do that one. I don't go that far. This thing is sticking out like this I can't do it because I think I slam me on this thing. I got a new lack on the way Bro, I seen the damn thing, but I can't right. I can't drive it good. So You know, how do they not hit each other coming down the street It's uh, it's a vibe. It's a way of life. You got to know what you're doing It's no different. It's no a let me tell you something. That's no different then Why do they pop wheelies and lean on them bikes? Yeah, yeah, the same thing You know, why do they because that's why I ride on the freeway and this is what I'm thinking when I see the bike people I'm such a bad driver. I wish they would stop No, but with the with those cars the swingers and so you say you don't do it. What do you mean? Yeah, I do them. Oh, yeah, I'm saying I don't do they not all one size You know, you have longer longer longer. Isn't there a law? I heard something about a law that was passed that you can't have it pass a certain amount. That ain't that ain't working I was just saying I don't do the longer ones. I do them, but I don't do the long long. How long can they come? Oh, shit I'm saying thumbs out g 22 now. So that's like 22 inches out You can't drive that on the road It happened. They're gonna drive it They're gonna they're gonna do I mean, I'm I'm I'm a little bit more into I'm I'm more into luxury and elegance chilling I ain't man. Yeah, the older we get that's how It's that color is right that drop they they dropple say man. I'm not playing about that I didn't see it I don't want to look under that really is that one of your prize My prize thing really boy, which one which one you love the best. That's that's one of my prizes I put a which one is your favorite That's it. It's on tv. No, he's thinking he's thinking about Man, it's on tv man Ever or now now now that you have my my my hooptie my I got a little what I mean, okay My little Denali. Okay. My run around is always my favorite Really? That's how I'm getting yeah, that's how you go on doing this thing That's how I take him up in so he's always my favorite the rest of them man, man You spend all that money you can't man You gotta drive slow when you're going down the street you so In that color is I'm so nervous about something else that can happen. That's right. You know what I'm saying like Man, because when you park it you got to park it all the way out here I don't even park it. I park right at the front. You don't park it if I'm if I'm there I really know it ain't no ain't no bunch. It's not like a jumping in like I'm getting in it It's something happening. Let me say this. I got to say this. I'm on the stage nigga. I got to say it Uh Shout out to Camille. He was seeing me at Dries and he said man that Chevelle man. Oh, you got Chevelle He said that blue car that was sitting in the front of unexpected. I'd never forget that bro I said, yeah, nigga. I knew I got you that night I'm a car fiend. I love them old schools man When it comes to like them, uh, say uh, uh, uh, just uh like that cutless you got it's a body style Let's see. Let me tell you something. I wasn't really going to do that cut I was trying to get a 72 and I and I got beat on a classic car scam Really? Bro told me up online trying to buy an old car and man, they had everything they had was um They had the escrow account. They had the The title the whole the whole bill of sale the paperwork everything it was some russians They got they made $500,000 I didn't give my money back on that. I lost eight grand Are you serious? And so when I came back that next year I bought that cutlass from new york Yeah, and I had a transported man down there. He was like, man, I'm looking at because I'm like, man, he's probably got beat man He's like he I'm looking at the car if you want is the 70 I know you want a 72 but it's the 70 right here I was looking at it because along with trying to buy the 72 I ended up just looking at the 70 kind of liking the body style So he was like, man, it's down here. I'm in front of it He was like, man, you want me to go and get it? I'm like, man, you see it. He down there with the truck. I pressed the button on it. Get the get the car Man, bring that car down here. The whole car was a piece of shit Wow That 70 that I'm in right now. I'm talking about it was a that new york had been aided in life Yeah, you didn't know that I knew nothing about this was my Rust in it. Oh my god. That rust was in it. So I thought it'd be messed up It'd be messed up. So I redone the whole car. Yeah frame quarters everything Motor I'm 170 and that thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I got the 70 and people are always thinking Man, that ain't that's not capping that like No 170 worth of 200 500 700 300 I got a lot in mind. Do I got a lot in mind? Listen, I haven't had mine alone time I don't play by my car. Let me tell you something, man It don't take no long to get to a honey doing it like that, bro Now when you build it from the frame up, so I got I'm working on some Oh, yeah, that's it. Oh, yeah, that's it Yeah, I didn't know you had that thing out there Don't do that thing like that on the show Watches it. Watches it right here. My brother working on one right now. That's what we do. This this morning. This this morning Oh, that thing right too. Watches it. Watch this motor Hey, man, it's serious. Man, this boy serious, man. Hey, seriously. The wheels right too. It's serious over here. Say this this oh, you know, I sent them this the other day, you know Man, that thing right I like that white interior. Oh, I got white and dear. Don't tear up now Yeah, man, no, but he got a red floor, you know, my favorite color. Yeah, you got the red in there That's what caught my attention They won't leave you alone on the road in that one. You can't drive that one. They'll wear the hell out you And it'll be the older white folks. I ain't gonna lie to you. We got a car show tomorrow. Y'all do Yeah in the city, um With the gas guards, it's all for Oliver Man, it's tomorrow. What time? It started about 10 in the morning. We might roll through. We are rolling through It's gonna be out there. No, I'm coming. I'm gonna drop my car off at about nine. It'll be out there. I'm coming. I ain't even dropping my I'm coming. Come on. I'm gonna come. Hey, man. It's just like me and slim and less had it about two weeks ago I took my car that beautiful and they just rerun it and again. I'm coming a lot of turn out A lot of people turn out. You ready to the gas guards? Yeah. Yeah, they doing it tomorrow. I'm coming. A lot of people turn out Hey, that's what we do down here. They got my car. How many cars? How many cars? Be out there. No, be out there Tomorrow about 56. Yeah, that's what you know. We was in new york. We just stopped the car show. We'll stop Oh, yeah, we driving and see a car show. I'm stopping car fiend, man My family already know this right here. They already know when I buy them everything that they need What y'all need? They already know a car on the way You know that say man, we're gonna do this all day. We don't stop it man. Thank you so much, man No, no, man. We're gonna finish it up in this house. Listen, man. Oh, yeah, you all you family now You family size is that a family nice or is that a word? Man, I want to tell y'all. I love y'all so much bro. I love you. Bye. It's great. You see why right Hey, man, thank you so much. No, I gotta say man. We love you. Thank you for coming on the show It's been another great segment of boss talk one on one. 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