 Right. Good morning everyone. Welcome to the session. Let's begin this time with a word of prayer. Then we'll get into our teaching. So I'd invite any one of us to please pray. Anyone who would like to pray, please go ahead. Let's pray. Lord our Heavenly Father, we want to thank you for this morning. We humble ourselves before you. We pray that you would minister to us this morning. Help us to learn together. Let me pray to God that we all will have good connectivity this morning and also to listen to your word and help us to implement this in our daily life and our ministry as we go on. Thank you for Pastor Paul. We thank you for all of us together this morning. We submit once again in Jesus' name we pray. Amen. All right. So. It got muted. Sorry. So we talked about the setting of the meeting and general guidelines of how you and I can lead a good life group. But again, everything that we're sharing is from things that we have learned, things that we have seen, things that have worked, things that have not worked. Now, some of you may be already leading groups and you feel that that's how you want to do it. Just go ahead and do that prayer. These are just guidelines pointers that can help you. And so we talked about, you know, all members in the guidelines that all members are encouraged to share, keep the interaction Christ-centered, prayer, avoid gossip, normal, always keep the vision of the church in mind. So even though you are selling through your meeting during the week, remember the vision. Don't feel like this is a separate vision. I know it's always aligned to the main vision of the church. And then we also looked at a sample schedule there on the dots. Again, this is just a sample. That's why it's called a sample schedule. So you can, you know, you can make changes to it, right? How you feel like preparing a schedule. See what works for you. Right. So let's get into the next point. We just did a brief on the upward inward, outward model. And this model was, you know, brought up by Jim McGee. And he developed this tool. The reason we're going to talk about this tool is because many, many churches across globally have used this tool. And it has helped them. They have seen fruit. It has been tried and tested. And, you know, they've seen them. Selling groups have been, have been fruitful, growing, multiplying. And so we just want to talk about a few aspects of this model. And I'm sure most of us may have maybe already doing this in our churches or ministries or certain groups. But this upward inward, outward and forward model, right? Four pointers. Jesus himself summarized these four values. So let's just look at it. The first one is the upward model. So self-explanatory, right? Matthew 22, 38 says, love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. So in a self-explanatory, if you are a self-explanatory leader or you're part of a self-explanatory, attending a self-explanatory, first things first is the upward model. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your mind, with all your soul. And that is the number of God, the reason why you're attending the self-explanatory. If the reason of leading a self-explanatory, attending a self-explanatory is not Matthew 22, 38, then we've got to reconsider why we are doing this self-explanatory. Because the whole point is to become more like Jesus. To love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul. And as a self-explanatory leader, that is what should be your vision, right? Your heart and your desire must be that, hey, I want to love the Lord my God with everything that I have. And when people see it, it will become an overflow, right? So just overflow into the group, people will catch it. Say, hey, what I want to do? What I want to love the Lord? I want to do everything that I'm doing for the Lord. I'm not doing it for eye service. I'm not doing it for people to look at me and compliment me and applaud me. No, I'm doing it because I love the Lord my God. So it could be a menial task or it could be a big task. It could be something very small that you're doing in a ceremony or in a ministry. Or it could be a very important goal that you're fulfilling. Whatever it is, remember, you're doing it for the Lord. And Paul also writes in the deficit, he says, whatever you do, do it as if you're doing it under the Lord. And so as believers, as ministers and government members, they are for the Lord. Why am I doing what I'm doing? Because I want to love my God, my God with all my heart, with all my soul, with all my mind, with everything that I have. And the best part about this is when you are doing something for the Lord and when people don't applaud you or they don't applaud you and they don't say, OK, they don't put you up on a pedestal, it's all right. We won't feel anything. I say, I'm not doing it for people. Of course, we work as a team. There are people that God has placed. We work as a team. Yes, but what I'm doing, I'm doing it for the Lord. So whether people are watching or watching, whether people will applaud or don't applaud, people encourage or don't encourage, I want to do what I'm doing because I'm doing it for the Lord. Very simple. And this model is very powerful because, remember, people can see through us. You can fool some people sometimes, but you can't fool everyone all the time. And it just becomes natural when we spend time in prayer, when we spend time with God's presence, spending time on His Word, God is changing us. What's happening? It becomes an overflow. Everything becomes so natural. We don't have to pretend to be somebody. And when people see it, they will catch it. That's the first one. Second one is the inward model. Now, Matthew 20 to 39. Love your neighbor as yourself. I don't know how many of you have really tough and difficult neighbors. And it's not as easy as it sounds. Love your neighbor as yourself. Basically, the inward model is love and value expressed to one another in the group. Now, when I love the Lord my God, the awkward love, what I'm also supposed to do is I need to express that love to the people around me. Jesus didn't say, you know, he didn't say things and not do it. So, for example, he didn't say, the Father and I have one, just as the Father loves you, I have loved you. But he didn't say, okay, I love you and do nothing about it. He expressed it. How did he express it? He expressed it to his disciples. He expressed it to other people. The Bible says that when we saw the multitudes come, he was moved with compassion. When he saw the sick and the poor and the people who are wanting healing, he was compassionate. He was broken. When he saw Lazarus dead, he needed it. So there was love that was expressed. It was shown outwardly. Right? And the inward model is expressed by the love for one mother. They become committed to living in community with one another. Right? So in a cell, say there are 10 or 12 of them, they're all committed to each other. They all love each other. They care for each other. They support each other. That's why, you know, there is no place for condemnation of course. There's no place for that. Right? Because there's love. When we love one another in, you know, not just saying, okay, in a cell group, but now in context to a cell group. When we love one another, there is no place for gossip at that time. Right? Now here's another important point. This value or this culture that is, that love that is expressed in the inward model, inside of the cell, it also extends outside the cell. Right? Because remember, our life is not only in church and the cell group. Most of our time is spent in the workplace. Most of the time, we are outside. If you look at a church in a year, probably about 52 summits, cell groups, maybe once a week, right, four cell groups a month, 48 cell groups a year. It's hardly anything. But the rest of the time, we're outside. Right? But it's important to understand that this commitment of community is also outside of the meeting and the reason it is there is because there are no relationships outside of this meeting. The relationships will become very weak and the meetings, the cell group meetings will be very artificial. Right? It won't be a place of people knowing each other. Now, let me give you this example. Say, for example, you know a person, your friend. I mean, you've not met him for 10 years. But all of a sudden, you meet him. You're not going to be extremely close to him. And you're going to say, probably exchange numbers. But as you keep meeting that person, what happens? The relationship becomes strong. Right? There's nothing artificial about it. You begin to, you know, have a good friendship with each other. And same way, in a cell group, if I don't build meaningful relationships or if we don't build meaningful relationships in a cell group, it becomes artificial. Now, what happens when something is artificial? It becomes stable. Right? So, it's very important. Receive the love, upward model, reciprocate that love inward model to one another. Right? Thirdly, be outward with another. This is where it gets interesting. The outward model, the outward value is found in groups that understand that they are on a mission in this world. That is to go out and make disciples. Right? So, now, firstly, the upward model. Love all your hearts. We're doing it for love too. Love everyone within the cell group. Express your love and care for each other. You support each other. You build meaningful relationships. And now, it's not just staying there. What do we do? There's the outward model. So, as a team and as a unit, as a cell group, you realize that, hey, now, let us go out and make disciples. Right? And the commission is given in the book of Matthew when Jesus was going up there, that he said, go and make disciples. That's the commission. Right? Now, our mission in this world is to go out, perform disciple making, to make disciples, and we are to lead others to Christ. Now, I want to share this. If at one point, for example, you started a sedative, take your time. Right? You don't have to say, okay, I started myself, go now, let's go on the mission. Let's go out and reach out. No, that's all right. Take your time. You can take maybe two years, one or two years, build relationships inside. And once you build those relationships, once you think that as a cell group, you're strong, you can work together as a team, then go out and reach out. Now, the mistake we can make is when you say, okay, we started a cell group, five months down the line, we say, okay, let's go as a team and do some outreach. Now, it can be done. Nothing wrong. It can be fruitful, too, because you're ministering God's work. But here's the thing. When we go out, in one, in unity, there is power. We'll be able to touch many lives when you do that as a team. Let's look at the example of Jesus himself. What did Jesus do? He chose 12. He said to the 12, okay, did he say at the beginning itself, let's go out? Did he make it, send them two by two immediately? He did. What did we do? We worked with them. We built a relationship with them. He ministered them. He let them see his life, all the things that he did, the miracles, took them everywhere. It was probably after only a year that he said, okay, let's make two by two. And he said, everyone, go out. Whatever I've thought, whatever you've seen me do, go out and do. You see that model? It's so powerful. Now, as a cell group, if you have a cell group, you can read your cell group for three or four years, and you've not been going out and reaching out to people, you can consider this. Maybe as a team, you could just plan something, try it out. There's no harm in trying. There's no harm in trying it all. Try out new things. Try out new strategies. Try out new ideas. As a team, sit together, plan. That's the best part about a cell group. These are the main relationships. Sit right down. Think about ideas. Think about strategies. Where to go? How can you put your thoughts and ideas together? They can stop them. Let's do it this way. Wow. Right. There's nothing wrong. Remember we talked about our cell groups. Is it something that is going to work in the year 2024? Yes. It worked in the early church. It worked now. It will continue to work till the end of time. Whether there is digital online church, whatever happens, people meeting together will always happen. And then this can turn into a way of reaching our minister with people. And that way, you and I intentionally may not be raising up leaders, but over time we may notice that this person who was with us, who was very shy, very quiet, is now so bored and is willing to go out and minister to people. He's willing to go into colleges and talk to people. He's outwardly bored. And this way, what are we doing? We are fulfilling the vision of the mission that God has given us. It's the bigger mission of making disciples. Finally, the forward model. The forward model of the forward value is seen when Christ's followers are taught to obey all things Christ taught us. And values, the forward value centers on growing followers of Christ to be disciple making disciples. So, almost an overlap of the outward and the forward model. So you go out together in the outward model but in the forward model, the important value is focusing on training up leaders to fill up certain positions either in the church or to focus to raising up next leaders, growing up as disciples is basically multiplication of leaders. Now, I said this in the first class. The greatest sign of a leader is how many leaders he's able to raise. So the moment, again I say this, the moment I start, I should also plan my exit. So the forward value is basically the training of people. They're saying, hey, why don't you take up this? It's been two years I'm leading the cell group. And for two years, you have been sitting in the cell group. Yes, I've given you a few opportunities, but now I'm going to step back. You lead the cell group. You make all the decisions, all the plans, everything. So what are you doing? You're giving somebody else an opportunity and they in turn can become good, great leaders and again, they can raise up other leaders. So this is going to be a cycle. That's what the forward body is. And so when generally, basically these are values taken from our Lord Jesus Himself. But these values applied in a cell group has seen success, has seen fruit. And also what we'll do is after we finish talking about cell groups, we'll also talk more about discipleship towards the end of this question. What is involved in raising up disciples and what are the pros and cons? It falls to avoid raising up discipleship. So any questions on this? The upward, inward, outward and forward. Even as you are doing this in your cell group, you don't have to explain to your cell group members, this is what I'm doing right now. It's called the inward, outward, outward. But what you can do is you can teach this to your cell group. Just probably take these four points and then reiterate it here. This is what cell groups are meant for. And then you can probably, every once in a month, just reiterate it to those who are intended. And so what happens is it gets into them. I need to love the Lord my God. I need to reciprocate that what people see the Lord will call in me. Then I'm also supposed to go out and reach out and wherever I am, whether I'm in the workplace in college, supposed to go and make disciples and finally I'm also supposed to raise up disciples. So the more we speak up with, the more we teach it, the more we'll be able to, you know, the cell group members will receive it and that's there in their heart. It's one thing that I should become a leader so I need to prepare myself for it. Right? Any questions? It's exciting, right? I think one of the most exciting things as leaders is to see another young person, right? Raising up to the level of leadership. Recently, we had our youth missions. We went to another state and, you know, we gave our youth opportunities to share certain people from church history. We had given them, I think it was 45 minutes per session and, you know, one of them would come to our locations at least, you know, see that's very beautiful. I was really, you know, I was so taken aback in probably in his early 20s. He shared so beautifully. It was like as if he was, you know, in 20 years of ministry. He was confident. He just knew exactly, you know, intonation, speech, greater speech, examples. It was just beautiful. So he's only 20, 21 years old and I was thinking to myself, you know, we've got to raise up these kind of leaders and imagine how is he going to be when he's here? Five years down the line, 30 years ago. He's so confident in doing so well and it's wonderful to see this. And I can only picture, you know, the next generation after us getting so much better than what we were doing. And that's the whole goal building God's kingdom. Okay, let's go to how to lead a great self-group meeting. How to lead a great self-group meeting? Again, this is just guidelines and thoughts you can add to all of this. One, have a favorable environment. A house is always the best. People feel comfortable in homes. But if that's not an option, we can always meet at other places, coffee shops, all of that. But just make sure that you can fear each other. There's not too much of disturbance. Have a favorable environment. Two, praise and worship to really set the atmosphere because when we praise and worship God, the Bible says, some of us says he inhabits in the praise of his people. Praise and we sing songs of worship and adoration, his presence comes. So it's good to praise and worship. Then thirdly, Christ-centeredness is the life of the self. Don't draw attention to self or to anyone else. This is something that we must all learn and grow as self-group leaders. Initially, we may feel like, what do I share? What do I say? There are times when we just end up keep sharing our own testimony. Avoid that. Don't draw people to yourself and don't draw people to anyone else. The whole point of this sample is Christ-centeredness. For example, many years back, this is just an example. Many, many years back in 2015, I went to a new life group that had started. I went to the life group just to attend the life group and be open with praise and worship and everything started. It came to an icebreaker. Then we also had discussions. So the life group leaders said, let's all discuss on the points, the questions were given. People shared their thoughts and kind of got over it quickly because there were about five or six of us. The discussions, it was supposed to be 45 minutes, within about 20 minutes. The life group leader, he's a wonderful life group leader. He said, I'll just share something. We got to talk about what happened in the school days. The testimony, all that is good. So he started telling, when I was in sixth standard, this happened. I was sitting there thinking, let me stop because everyone was like, okay, let me sit here. But in my mind, cell group happens once a week. And in that one hour, we know that one hour to be fruitful. So I had to integrate that to say, okay, let's talk about something else. Let's talk about something in the scriptures. I come up with some questions. As leaders, these are things that we have to look at. If you're leading a cell group, that is the responsibility of a life group leader to guide the discussions. So there's nothing wrong. Initially, I said, what will they feel? Will they get angry? Will they get upset? Will they say, okay, I don't want to be a life group leader anymore? I have the responsibility to do that. The guy in the discussion, so tell them, okay, hey, can we do this way? And if you're a cell group leader, or a cell group member, when these kind of things happen, never look at your cell group leader saying, oh, he did so many things wrong. It's just that we want the cell group to be Christ's center. It's testimony time for you to share your testimony. But when it's discussions, everything should be in line with what who Jesus is and what he's doing. Christ's center. Totally prayer. The life of a cell church is prayer. What makes a cell church strong? And together, there's relationships built and meaningful is prayer. The number one reason is prayer. It's not about the location. It's not because there are 10 other families near our home. It's not about because the timing is correct, all of that. It's important. You can't have cell group at one o'clock in the afternoon. We have to use our wisdom in all of that. But the point is, where is priority? As a cell church, a cell group, you must drive the group through prayer. Praying for the church, praying for the cell members, praying for the leadership in the church, praying for one another. Very, very important. And when we pray together, it really binds each one of them together. It makes the group stronger. Then you can pray for a boy cross, which is contacts, those who are immediate unsafe family and friends and others who are trying to reach Christ. Trying to know about Christ, that God may open doors and bring people to cell groups. So pray, under the girl, your cell group through prayer. Somebody raised their hands. Was it Abu Bakr? I'm sure you raised your hands. If you did raise your hand, go ahead. Do you have any questions? Probably raise your hands. No sir, I don't have a question sir. It's nothing to show myself. Sorry, you don't have a question, Abu Bakr? Yes, I don't have a question. No problem. Alright, so let's go to the fifth point. Again, very important. Prayer. Sometimes we may get our focus in all of this outreach and all these things, disciple making all of it, but let it be done through prayer. Best example, Jesus did my love that he went, he prayed, he came back and then he chose his 12 disciples. I think Jesus could have chosen the 12 disciples without prayer. He's the son of God. He doesn't need to spend hours of prayer just to choose 12 people. But he did it. Then he came back and then he chose his 12. So even when it comes to us as leaders, we're choosing the right leader, choosing the next disciple who's going to take up the mantle, we've got to be careful. Fifth one, delegation of responsibilities to all cell members. Recognition and utilization of all the gifts in a cell. Delegate responsibilities. And I'm sure most of us do that. If you're a cell group leader or a cell group member, delegation is very important. So as a leader, delegate. Give people opportunities. And when you give them opportunities, check their heart motivation. Don't feed into anyone's ego. Now gifts and skills are there. Yes. God gives us gifts. We can sing 100 songs at one time. We can play all three instruments at the same time. That's good. But the heart, check the heart motivation. Let me give you this example. This happened just a couple of weeks back. We had a new young couple that came to church. They came to church and they said, he came up to me and said, you know what, I'm an audio engineer. And this sound was not proper to set. I think the reverb was too much. So he was sharing it. So I listened to everything. I said, is there anything you want me to pray for? So I prayed for him. Then I told him, come back next Sunday. He came back next Sunday. He came back again. He said, you know, the monitors are not, there's something wrong with the monitors. What kind of app are you using? I said, see, I don't know. You can ask the sound team. He said, is there anything to pray for? I prayed for him. He came back the following Sunday. This happened for four to five Sundays. And then he asked me, can I join the sound team? I said, sure. You can join the sound team. So I said, I've dreamed as volunteer guide lives. I sent him the volunteer guide lives. He read through it. I introduced him to the sound team leader. And he said, you know, okay, I will talk to them. And maybe twice a week, I will give my availability to the sound. Now, what I got to do is, you know, he said that I'm an audio engineer. What I intentionally told the sound team was, if he wants to join the team, he will have to, for two or three months, he will not be doing sound, but he'll have to carry the instruments in. I'm sorry. He'll have to carry the speakers, the mics. He'll have to carry equipment from the storeroom into the hall. So don't give him, you know, we have, you know, a mix of everything is done on the pad. So all the settings and all of those things are done in a tab. So I told the team, guys, if he comes, if he says he's willing to serve, wonderful. Give him the role of carrying the speakers, the mic stands and all of that. So he had told him that sound team leader and the sound guy said, okay, you want to come at 6 a.m.? You have to carry all the speakers into the thing. So he came. He came, he was very, he did it. And then, you know, they came and asked, they came and spoke to me. The sound team came and spoke. He said, see, he was not interested in all of this. He wanted to only do the audio thing on the tab. I said, no. But he's an audio engineer. He's been an audio engineer for 10, 12 years. Said, good. Let him first carry the speakers for three or four months and we'll give him this. Because I knew he wanted things easy. And that's not how it works. End of part. That's true. We want to check hard. What is the motivation of why you want to serve? When you look at it, there's, you know, in church, we have an aeronautical engineer. Right? He's an engineer. He makes plays. He comes to church and he puts the chairs two Sundays a week. He's an aeronautical engineer. You think he doesn't know anything? He knows everything about Saul. But he does it quietly. And slowly we'll get him into the sound center team. So don't feed into people's egos. It's not like you're not going to give them opportunities. You give them opportunities, but give them something small first. Let them be faithful and listen. And then you slowly give them a better legal opportunities. And they begin to value what they have. Right? Six, sensitivity to visitors and unbelievers. Don't condemn on other religions, persuasions or practices. The gospel is not about condemning, but about proclaiming Jesus. Now the biggest mistake a leader can make is talk about other religions. Right? To prove that my religion is better than yours. The mistake I've made, I've made this many times. And they proved why their religion is better than ours. Meaning they had 100 other things to say. Why theirs is better than ours. So never try to, you know, condemn other religions. Don't try to bring them down. Jesus, I love what Jesus said. You shall know the truth. The truth will set you free. Very simple. Everything that Jesus said has a point. You didn't just randomly say things. You know the truth will set you free. You speak the truth from God's word. That itself will set people free. I remember this happened in, I don't know, I think it was 2016 or 2017. This young boy, he came up to me and we were here and he said, you know, we don't believe in speaking in tongues. That's all over. But he had a good heart, right? Very good heart. Honest heart. He wanted to learn. I said, okay, that's what you believe in. For me initially, I was very taken aback. And he said, okay, I want to volunteer. Set up the chance or do something. But he was very, very faithful. He would come, he would do it. Every single Sunday he was there. But he still didn't believe. Many things is that he was not okay with some of us. Every Sunday he would come. So I never forced to believe. But he kept sharing his thoughts. When you said this, it didn't make sense actually. You would always say something. But then, after a year, a year or one and a half years, he just began to understand. He said, okay, I believe it. And I'm praying that God fills me with the Holy Spirit that I can pray and speak in tongues. There was no defense given. There was no condemnation. It's the truth of God's word preached on the pulpit Sunday and Sunday hearing minister to his life. Next one, creative self-form. Creative self-formers and presentation and facilitation of the world. Very, very important. Now on a self-group, especially in APC, what we do is we follow the Sunday sermon. Now in this self-group meeting, don't make it sermon part two. Meaning the same sermon repeated here. No. Make it, allow people to discuss. Thankfully we have three questions that we can talk about. Now if you go to our website, APCW.org, you go to ministries, you go to sermons, you'll find sermon notes. Now why towards the end, you'll see LG study in the period. Now this was not always there. Over time, we put it there because we wanted our livelihood leaders to follow a certain format. And then later on we started putting questions. Why? Because sometimes the questions would go all over the place. So we wanted our questions to be in line with the sermon. So now we have three questions. So everyone are discussing three or four questions. Okay. And last one day we talked about, I think it was faith, right? Four questions. Talk about that. A lot of people can discuss. Now don't make it boring. Don't make it like another sermon. What will happen? People will get, hey, this I heard it all Sunday. Why am I hearing it again? I'm not getting an opportunity to speak now. Give people opportunity. It should be 90% of others speaking, 10% of us speak as leaders. And that 10% is only guiding the discussions, right? Eight one, after the meeting formally ends, meet up and follow up with people in the church. If there are new visitors within a cell group, let them know about the cell group. Let them know about the church. There'll be times when people will come. They're new to a cell group, actually people from other faith may come. They may not know church. So ask them, you know, have you heard of church? We have these five locations. So we have three locations. This is where we meet. This is the timing. If you'd like, you can come, right? Or if you also like, you can continue coming to the cell group. Give them time to make their own decisions. Point one, conflict handling and problem solving. When we're dealing with people, there will be conflicts, right? Jesus had to deal with them, right? There will be problems that have to be solved. So this is where as leadership, we show maturity. We show wisdom. We try our best to solve conflicts and help people to solve their problems. Remember, even as we do that, we are not blocked. We cannot take God's place. There are certain things that only God can do. All we can do as leaders is say, okay, you know, this is as much as I can do, but I'm going to pray for you that God can. The mistake we make is we try to sometimes take the role of God. And we try to do everything on our own. Which is just going to burn us out. That's not what you need to do. Conflict handling also, make sure you hear the story from both sides. So you're able to handle the conflict and solve problems within the group. Now, these problems can be very small, right? But those small problems, maybe me look small to you and me, but to the person who's sharing it, maybe a big problem. And over time, I have learned the hard way. I'm thinking, hey, that's such a silly problem. But for him, it's a big problem. For her, it's a big problem. So be able to understand those things as leaders. It is a part of my calling. And ask to resolve conflict. Don't run away from conflicts. Don't run away from conflicts. Get it resolved. And remember that, you can't control people's emotions. You can't control people's actions towards feedback and correction. But you're doing it, if you do it the right way, you're free from any kind of guilt or connection. You know that you've done it the right way. So there's a few aspects on how to lead a great circle. So what do we do with our children? Quickly, let's share a few points When it comes to life groups or cell groups, we have family cell groups, then we have children. What do we do with the children? During the early days, we'll bring a piece of paper and then some crayons and make them color. Now, please don't do that now. Children have great spiritual capabilities. Children are very likely to understand spiritual truths and more than adults themselves. I've got two boys. One is eight and one is six. And the eight year old asks questions that sometimes recently asked me, when is Jesus coming? I said, I'm not sure. So when he comes, can we see him? I said, yeah, you can see him. How can we see him that time? We can't see him now. You see the questions that they ask. I had to say, you know, I don't know if I don't even but the questions they ask is much more than what we used to ask. We were eight years old. We were eight year old, we were asked what is the route to go to the park. But their questions are completely different. So look at children in a way that they're understanding is much, much higher. We have a personal responsibility to raise up the next generation. We need to build relationships with our younger generations. Start them off at 10, eight, 10, 12, raise them up. That's why we started Teen Church. We have children's church. And children's church, I was surprised. They were teaching them lifestyle evangelism. I was like, wow. Right. And it's good. We're raising up the next generation. We've released them into the things of government where they have this passion for God. So we want our children to be disciples. For that, we need to create a culture of good leadership, good fathers and mothers who can mentor, train and disciple our young people. Right. So when it comes to family service, what we can do is we can appoint a person, a mature person and as the main adults group is going on, maybe the children can meet and the children can have a time of worship and prayer. And, you know, they can also discuss what they feel like, you know, you know, simple questions on feed can be asked, you know, or you can also involve them in the praise and worship together. Right. So people watch. Right. And children like to watch and they learn. So it's a praise and worship. The children are watching. Okay, everyone is singing, lifting their hands and clapping. And so it goes into them. They watch and they learn. And so after praise and worship, they can go to another room, another place. An adult can, you know, hold, right? That's one option. They can take a scripture or they can take some stories and make it, make it something that is fruitful. Right. Don't give them the phone and make them sit or don't give them color pencils and make them sit. No. Right. Our next generation needs this. Right. Teach any lesson that is suitable for them. Right. So, for example, we're doing faith in science. This is an example. We can't teach faith in science to the children. So to choose a topic that is applicable for them. Right. Where it can be simplified and they can learn out of it. Right. So the adult who's in charge of this children's ministry must be able to get the children to pray together and learn together as a cell. Right. We'll pick up, we'll stop here. We'll pick up a little more on this and then we get into chapter 5. Our next class. Thank you so much. Have a great week ahead. I'll see you on Friday. Thank you.