 This is St. Tech, Hawaii, and one of the matters here. To bingo, we're back. I told you we'd come back, and we came back. We had a really interesting show with a student in a university in a town in the northern part of India. Oh, that show, that was great. And we also played a show that we took at the Energy Policy Forum meeting on Monday that was sort of a group of the working group chairs there. Namely, let's see if I can remember, Mina Merida was one. She's a former chair of the PUC. And John Cole, another former PUC. And Lance Tanaka from Par, Hawaii, and Maria Tomei. And they were our guests on the show, which we actually streamed live on Monday. So today's been an active afternoon. Wow. And now you, Becca. So how do you show today about efficiency? But we always like to include something about what's going on at Hawaiian Electric Companies. And Becca is the manager of renewable acquisition agreements in Hawaiian Electric Company. Get that right? Renewable acquisition department. Department. OK, got it. Close enough. I like that job. Very important job. It is a very important job. In July, the PUC approved the PSIP plan. That was a good thing, because it took a long time for them to do that. And then now you have to implement the plan. And you sent out a press release there two ago, which I was really interested in. And I certainly would like to talk to you about that. We're going to implement the PSIP. We're going to start implementing it with 400 megawatts. Ooh, exciting. Tell us what's going on. Sure. So as you said, on Monday, we filed a press release to announce that on Monday, we filed with a commission request for proposals to procure approximately 400 megawatts of generation on Oahu, Maui, and also Hawaii Island. And so that's broken down into 220 megawatts of renewable generation on Oahu variable, 100 megawatts on Maui, which includes 40 megawatts of firm generation, and then approximately 50 megawatts on Hawaii Island. Very exciting. Very exciting. That's a lot of megawatts. I mean, I'm not sure about this, but there are 1,200 megawatts out there in, say, Oahu, or is it statewide, I don't remember. And this is a substantial part of what's already out there. Yes, it will be. It is the largest single acquisition of renewable assets in the state. So it's a big undertaking for the company. This is going to take us a long way to 100% renewables if we get this much going. Definitely, yes. So how long in general the process is going to involve the approval of the RFP? You're going to submit an RFP form soliciting proposals. And then you're going to have to get the proposals. And then you're going to have to cut contracts. And then you're going to have to get that approved. And then you're going to have to go back and ask the people who was successful to do the job. And you're going to have to make purchase power agreements. And it's going to take a while. How long does it take to get the work done? So we're estimating a little over two years to get through the RFP process and the contracting and PUC approval. So we're targeting to have projects through PUC approval by the end of 2019, or third quarter 2019 approximately. So what we did on Monday is we actually did file draft request for proposals for the Maui firm generation. And then also we filed the draft of the variable request for proposal. And that was based on Oahu. But the Maui and Hawai'i Island would be very similar. Because the process requires going through stakeholder comments and making modifications, the thought was just to file one draft. We can make modifications and then duplicate and make. Use it as a template. Yes. Hopefully that will speed the process. So the next steps, the commission and their order, opening the docket on they had issued an order on October 6 of this month. They gave stakeholders 20 days from Monday to provide comments. We also proposed to the commission in our filing on Monday some additional steps. So we'll wait to see if they approve those. But they include holding a technical conference as well as some additional steps after the 20 days, just so that we could give stakeholders and ourselves an idea of where the process was going. But for now, the only set date is the 20 days for stakeholder input. But typically under the Compit framework, we would file the draft. We'd seek input from stakeholders as well as the commission. And then we would file revised drafts based on that input for commission approval. Very transparent process, I must say. It is very transparent. Actually, we were trying to make the process even more transparent this time. So as part of our filing on Monday, we filed kind of the process of how we came up with the draft RFPs, some of the tradeoffs that we had to make in order to meet our 2019 deadline, and also procure the generation that we are anticipating. But and our goal is to also seek that stakeholder input so that we can make the process even more transparent so that everybody has an understanding of what the utility needs and what we're looking for, and everybody can be on an equal footing in the process. And then in the end result, hopefully procure the cheapest generation possible for our customers. Yeah, and you're going to ride this all the way through. This is going to be a project. Yes. It's a biggest project yet, in terms of renewables. Definitely, in one project. So we're actually proposing a stage process so that we can make sure that we get the generation on in phases and not wait kind of for an end date. You know, speed the process, we think, by implementing in stages. So we're proposing of the almost approximately 400 megawatts, we would take a smaller set of projects to reach PUC approval by 2019. And then in 2019, do a second round of solicitation for projects and then procure the rest of the generation in that 400 megawatts. It'll be built out in the early 20s sometime. Yes, so we're proposing that projects reach commercial operations no later than the end of 2022. OK, we should all stay well and healthy and see this realized, yeah? Yes, definitely. But the one piece of news that I think we should leave with people is that this is different in terms of the purchase power agreements. It's not the same as it was because this is based on dispatchable rather than must take. Can you explain that to our audience? Sure, I'd be happy to. So with the filing on Monday, and by the way, this is all available on our website, the draft documents. We did file a new draft model PPA for variable generation that's dispatchable generation. So it gives the company complete dispatch rights over the power, which will allow us to balance what is needed on the grid and use the energy in the most efficient way for the grid and also for ancillary services. And in exchange, we'll be paying the developers a fixed payment, which will help with them on their financing side and should make the projects more financeable because they have a guaranteed income stream as long as the facility is available. Yeah, that really works well. That's not like a very modern approach to things. It's where we need to go, I think. Dispatchable is what the utility needs. And dispatchable means, correct me if I'm off base on this, but dispatchable means if you want it, you can have it. You can take it. You flip a switch and you get the power you want. As opposed before, under must take is that you had to take the power and you couldn't actually control when it was being dispatched or not being dispatched. Correct, if the sun was shining, then under limited circumstances we may be able to have been able to curtail the energy. But in general, we would be required to take it. And then as you said under this, it would be more that we'd be pulling the energy when we need it. Yeah, yeah. So this is a good concept. And I'd take it from what you say that when we're talking about this 400, we're talking about solar and wind. Anything else? Solar and wind are examples, but we're open to any proposal. Oh, it could be something else, too. That we're, see what the developers have. And we also have allowed for storage proposals to be resource plus storage. So that's another option that we're going to be evaluating under the. Very exciting. It feels like we're moving forward. We're implementing the PSIP. These are exciting times. Definitely. We're very excited. We think that this will be great for the state of Hawaii and for our customers. So we are really looking forward to moving forward with the process. Yeah, great. Becca Matsushima, but she goes by Becca. And if there were three of her, they'd call her Tribeca. Oh, I'm only kidding. Thank you, Becca. Thank you for coming down. You have to come back and tell us how it's going later. Definitely. Thank you. Aloha. We can take a short break. You'll see we'll be right back. This is Think Tech Hawaii, raising public awareness. Living in this crazy world, so caught up in the confusion. Nothing is making sense for me and you. Maybe we can find a way. There's got to be solutions. How to make a brighter day. OK, we're back. We're live. You had a very refreshing break. And guess what? The table is reconstituted. My auntie at the far side, Sharon Moriwaki, the co-chair of the Hawaii Energy Policy Forum, put on a brilliant annual summit on Monday. It was really fabulous. Yeah, thank you for that, Sharon. OK, we have two special guests from the Hawaii Energy. Tony Kowal from Hawaii Energy's program manager of the program called Hard to Reach, Hard Communities Program. They called it that. Yeah. Yes. OK. The program supervisor is Bob Dahilig. Oh, perfect. Yeah, OK, all right. And I'm also involved in the program. These guys are with Honeywell, but they're with Hawaii Energy for this program. And we are talking about trying to reach communities that are hard to reach. And let me say that this is consistent with something that we here at Think Tech talk about all the time, and that is bringing the state together, even playing field. Everybody involved. Nobody left out. And that's what you guys are doing. Who's going to describe the program for me, Bob? It must be you. Well, one of the programs that we have primarily is for multi-family direct install, which we call Energy Smart for Homes. And this is a program where we actually go in and we retrofit each individual residential unit in a multi-family property. And with very simple energy measures, we go ahead and try and directly install, replace, and save the residents their energy, save on their monthly utilities. And overall, save the property management at some operating costs also. So it's a win-win. Are you telling the condos or apartment buildings are like any size? Well, we've done properties anywhere from 10 to over 500. But really, a target audience that we would really like to serve is, again, those hard to reach, which would be like maybe senior communities, low income communities, government subsidized properties. Those types of things, we want to go ahead and reach out to because they're largely an underserved portion of our sector. And how do you reach out to them? I mean, do they call in or you go out and beat the bushes and say, where are the seniors today? Well, first of all, I want to say that our Energy Smart for Homes program is completely free. All the materials and labor are provided free. And you would think that a free program, people would be flocking to it. But actually, it's a little bit tougher than folks realize. So we do have on staff an account manager who actually goes out and tries to sign up folks for the program, explaining them, trying to make sure that everything that we can provide for them is beneficial for that particular property. Does the whole building have to be enrolled or can individual units come in? Or it doesn't seem to make sense unless you have everybody. Yeah, we prefer to have everybody, but we realize there's not going to be 100% all the time. If any particular unit or resident wants to opt out, they always can. And in fact, even on the energy measures that we provide, if they don't want any one particular one of the measures, they can opt out of that also. So if somebody's watching this show and they want the program to come to them and their community, how do they do that? Call you up? Yeah, absolutely. They can either call us up at 537-5577 or even get online on the web at HawaiiEnergy.com. Yeah, very cool. You've got some videos we think we should look at. Well, I just wanted to quickly show some program offerings. So in the first slide, slide 1B, we have some offerings that I can go ahead and identify for you. And as you can see there, we target, and it's called Energy Smart Four Homes, the four in the homes being four energy measures that we focus on. Energy Star lamps, LEDs. Also secondly, we'll have high efficiency faucet aerators for both your kitchen and your bath and high efficiency shower heads. In numbers two and three that you see there, we've come to find out that about 48% of your hot water use, which again, if it's electric water heating, is a major portion of your electric bill, about 40%. You could reduce much of it by having these high efficiency water measures. So it doesn't just conserve water, but it actually save energy on your electric water heater. And on number four, these smart power strips, they're also called advanced power strips. Those are energy management devices that go ahead and turns off your appliances that aren't being used, depending on the demand. Does it do it automatically? It does it automatically. So in our old school days, remember, we used to unplug stuff when we left the house, that would eliminate that issue. Yeah. And so yeah, with those things combined, we found that those four simple measures can impact a particular unit, about $160 a year. That may not seem like much, but you multiply it times the number of units per year. It turns out it'll be quite a savings for everybody. Monty, how do we reach out and contact people? I mean, in remote areas, I bob alluded to the fact that sometimes it's hard to do that. They don't know, don't care, whatever it is. How do you reach them? So we do have an account manager that will go out to neighborhoods. Sometimes he'll canvass the neighborhood. Sometimes he'll go in almost cold call. He does have a list of property managers, building owners that he does reach out to. And we find that the hard to reach communities, the hard to reach actually extends toward the property managers and the building owners themselves. So it's getting them involved and getting them to buy into the program. This is a no cost or free service that we do provide. And people are very skeptical. People, whenever you hear that, they think it's a scam, but once we get our foot in the door, then we're able to convince them and convince them that, no, this is a viable program that we have through Hawaiian energy. So it can be difficult sometimes to break down those barriers, but we have a very, very good team that can help to convince them otherwise. Suppose you have a property owner, landlord, if you will, who doesn't know, doesn't care, doesn't want, just leave me alone kind of thing. But you have tenants, his tenants in that property who are interested and would be good customers for you. How do you deal with that scenario? Well, again, the account manager plays a very good, very big role in that. And he's been quite successful in being able to go ahead and on behalf of the residents, go ahead and talk to the resident manager or the property manager or even the ownership and explain the benefits, the overall benefits, not just in terms of savings, but in terms of energy, in terms of reducing carbon footprint. So he's done a very effective job in that case. So it's social engineering. I mean, you got to be nice to people, you got to find the cultural connection and all that. But what's, from the point of view of Hawaiian energy, what are your aspirations? What are your goals? What are your deliverables, so to speak? And how do you measure the success of this program in wattage, in what? In kilowatt hours and units. So we definitely have a metric that we go after and how many units, which are the tenant residences themselves, how many units that we go after in a particular year. And so we have various sectors, various communities that we go to, various agencies. So we focus in Hawaiian energy, of course, on the hard to reach. And then we also have a partner, Pono Home, that helps us out with this. And they go directly to HPHA properties, as well as DHHL, in certain cases. So this is largely for people who not only remote, who are economically disadvantaged. Definitely. Maybe native Hawaiian communities. Absolutely. Who wouldn't necessarily be online for this kind of technology. That's right. And so you're going to deliver to them. You have a period of time in which you have to, in which the program will last. I mean, is it defined periods, say a year, two years, three years, is that the way it works? Or is it indefinite? Well, we go from a program year to program year. Program year. So we're funded from June to the July of the following year. So we always tell folks that the program is funded, but it may last until July or until the fund lasts. So that may motivate them to come in out of the cold within that period of time. Yeah, hopefully, yeah, they'll realize that there is a little bit of urgency to it and want to participate sooner rather than later. But that doesn't mean that it actually closes at the end of the year because you may very well renew it. It may very well be renewed for year after year for a while, particularly if it's reaching communities that need to be reached. Absolutely. This program was instituted back in March of 2015. We did our first units then. And it's been continuing up until this program year. So yeah, that is that opportunity of continuing after this program year. So tell us what you actually do. I mean, you go in and you change the light bulbs, or you put the strips in or what? That's a wonderful question, Sharon. Let me go ahead and show you the next slide here on one seat. This was not rehearsed. Couldn't have for a better segue myself here. This just gives you an indication of the areas on just Oahu that we've touched. We've recently started again through Pono Home in reaching some of the neighbor islands. But in terms of their, like I said, March 2015, we've done over 12,500 units just here on Oahu. That's a lot of units. Quite a bit, yeah. And as you can see on that very last row there, the customer annual savings is over $700,000. Yeah, and that's money that accrues to them. Absolutely. I'd say they don't have to pay that much to the utility for electrical generation. Absolutely. Pretty good. Yeah, so again, continue on to answer your question, Sharon. And the next slide, that's our installer there, Jim. And that's what you see there. He actually goes into each individual unit. We'll replace the light bulbs as you can see in the top left, the shower heads. And on the bottom right, he's replacing the kitchen aerator and the other light bulbs like above the hood over the stove. Again, we focus on these particular things because we realize that there's a lot more energy savings that could be reaped from these particular items. And so does he go in and do an audit first and then come back with all the light bulbs or whatever, or how does that work? Again, our account manager goes in and does a site, what we call a site survey prior to actually the installer going in. He will go ahead and make an evaluation of what actually might need to be done so that we can make sure that our installer brings enough of the products on site at the time of installation. You get a special price on these products where you go out and buy them in order to install them? Absolutely, because we buy it in volume. We do so many units. We get a better deal on them. Well, you know, it strikes me there's two sides to this. One is the side of your saving people cash money of $770,000. That's a great gift to them. That's disposable income that they're not spending and therefore they can use that money and other things that may be more important to them like food or rent. Absolutely. Let's look at all of these items for free, right? Yeah, right. So it's an enhancement of their lifestyle in general. But the other part is what I'm gonna ask you about, the other part is the benefit to the community in general, to the state because my right, we're using less electrical energy this way and that benefits all. Can you talk about that? Sure, well, we always preach in Hawaii Energy of course is energy efficiency first and then bring on the renewables, right? So we want Hawaii obviously to be energy efficiency first and focused. And some of the ways that we get there too is we go out to the community and we do workshops. So we do community workshops, energy literacy workshops and I'd like to pull up a video that we always start out with in a lot of our workshops. It is video three, the small kind ridiculous. You could pull that up please. It's very short, but it's a very nice video and it really just owns in on the message. It's obvious that waste is ridiculous. Why don't we think the same about wasting energy? Find out how you can be smarter with your energy at smallkindrediculous.org. Nice, it's kind of a funny way to say you wouldn't do all these things in your normal life. You wouldn't roll your spam as moves to be with 30 yards of saran wrap. But yet when you leave to go on a date somewhere and it's at night, you leave all the lights on your house. So why do you do that? We start off with these kind of unique quirky ways of engaging the audience. And so we have a number of different facilitators and instructors that go out into the communities and teach simple tips and tricks and really engage and connect with them. So they are all very locally networked and connected to the communities that we serve and they all have different styles. So we've got a couple, we've got the Blue Planet Foundation that helps us with this. They've been doing this a long time. Yes, and they really focus too on the student energy education. So they're equipping the students, the future leaders for our energy education. They take it home to their families, right, they teach their parents. They use the kids to teach their parents. Exactly, exactly. And then we've got Helen Y who's been a picture of the program. She won an award. He did. Two years ago, she won an award with the William & She Policy Forum. She is absolutely great. She's great at really connecting with the community and having them laugh and then and ask good questions about energy efficiency. And then we have a new person, Kaylee E. Wilson, who does a workshop making you as an energy entrepreneur. And if you could just pull up slide four, just kind of highlights what she does. So she's a younger woman who teaches basically based on a top 10 tips. And so these are top 10 habits as an energy entrepreneur. So she brings the audience in and tells them that, hey, you guys are entrepreneurs. Instead of saving money, you're putting money in your pocket. So you're actually making money. And then she equates that to fun things like all this money that you saved at the home when you did these tips, you can save for a trip to Vegas or maybe a monthly cell phone bill or a Zippy's surf pack or something like that. So kind of really relate to the audience. This is all about engagement, you know, and you guys are effectively designing an educational program. In order to get your foot in the door. And the movie really teaches us a lot about your teaching. You made it very interesting. It's like not mindful about what you do. And so this is kind of awareness of what we do and then changing behaviors really. Yes, it's all about changing slowly, changing behaviors and nudging people because use the bottom line of it. It's not just that you fix this unit and put energy saving devices. You're actually changing the way people see the thing and the way they conduct themselves. Not only in this unit, but in every unit they live in for the rest of their lives. Yes, lifestyle and behavior modification. Yeah, yeah. So it goes way beyond just the fact of going in and fixing the unit. Yeah, it's a shift, it's a continual shift in behavior, so it makes it part of who they are. Yeah, it must be great to watch, to see this. It is, it's going to be successful. It's very rewarding. Both the Energy Smart for Homes programs as well as our workshops, but when people see it and they get that proverbial light bulb that goes on, it is really enjoyable to see that and rewarding. All right, Sharon, at a time, this happens all the time, Sharon. So it's your time to make a little summary of what we've learned here today. I really think this program of looking at changing people's behaviors and then going to hard to reach communities where a lot of times they don't think about those kinds of things. And I really think that both Tony and Bob are doing a great job. If it's going on for two years and continuing, that we hope that you can expand and tell us more about new programs that you put in place to train people in terms of what is energy and what they can do to put money in their pocket. That's right, yeah. Yeah, well thank you very much for having us. Thank you for coming. Tony Kowal, Program Manager in Bob Dahilig, Program Supervisor at Hawaii Energy with this great new, I shouldn't say new program, with this great program you're doing to reach into remote communities. Thanks so much. Thank you. I appreciate it.