 Hi guys, welcome once again. Good to see you all back in class. Yeah, again I request one of one of you to do this in prayer. It started. Yeah, father, we thank you for bringing us together this morning to attend our classes. We want to thank you for the life of our teacher, our pastor. We want to thank you for the life of a PC. I want to thank you for everything that you are doing in our life. Father, I want to exalt your name. I want to humble ourselves, open our hearts and our minds so that we can take in whatever we have been taught. And let us be a good receiver and later on deliver properly. Father, make us the people you want us to be. I want to thank you for everything you are doing. Bless us, bless our classmates, bless our family, this and every other masses we ask in the name of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Amen. Thank you. Thank you, Isaac. Thank you for sharing. All right. OK, so let's continue. In the last class, we concluded with section three and we spoke about, you know, correcting and also, you know, encouraging people to have the right conduct, so to speak. Right. And as a conclusion of the previous chapter, you know, one of the last passages that we looked at was how would we restore fallen ministers in page one, thirty two. Right. That's what we looked at. And then we looked at quite a bit of you know, how do we confront a lot of misconduct, misbehavior, divisive, you know, individuals in opposing a couple of people. How do we handle that's what we kind of studied in the whole chapter and the last week. So as a conclusion, we saw that what do we do in such situations? You see, it's best that we don't take it personal. Someone else's inability to receive correction is not your fault. OK, so don't be too hard on yourself. But beat yourself up and guard your heart by not getting offended with all these shortcomings and whatever people might have to say or people the way people treat you and whatnot. It is natural, a natural response of feeling towards such behavior will be to get offended and whatnot. So I've been there. I'm sure some of us have been there, but it's time and time again just to keep guarding our heart and say, OK, you know, how do you react after getting offended is very important so you can choose to forgive or you can choose to move on, right? Or you can choose to retaliate. So guarding your heart is important when when you've been confronted or you're confronting a difficult situation, giving time for people to change, allow them to move on in peace, not to have the fear of missing out kind of a thing. You know, what we discussed is OK, this is this person is a very good musician in church, you know, what if I correct any leaves? He or she leaves the church and be one good musician short. That's called the fear of missing out, isn't it? In today's generation, they say four more. But don't be afraid to let people go if they want to. That's fine, right? So those were all the things that we saw. We learned about in the previous chapter. And now today we move on to the different section, chapter 21. Church order in gatherings. This is a section four to page 134, chapter number 21. So we've completed 20 chapters, and I hope you've learned quite a bit as much as I have learned just teaching. You know, this this course, OK, so chapter 21 talks about church order in gatherings, right? Church order in gatherings. So we're going to discuss quite a bit about administration and how the importance of order and what happens when when there is no order, right? So what would you guys have to say? Why would you say that an order is important to have an order is important in church? I mean, if I ask that question, everybody I know would say, yes, it's important to have order. But why is it important to have an order? OK, God is God of order. All right. For the smooth, for the smooth running of the church, because where there is no order, there is disunity, there is disorder. And like John said, order is the first law in heaven. So order is necessary for the smooth running of the church. Right? OK. Order is necessary for the smooth running of the church. Yeah, thank you, Isaac. God is God of order. JP said, Jeffyna says, so there won't be any confusions or chaos. OK, so when we don't have order, there will be confusions of chaos. OK, what else? Because where do we need to have order? It's like the judge says in the courthouse, isn't it? Order, order, order, three times, order in the court. OK, what are some of the I know the consequences are already mentioned by Jeffyna. So what happens when you don't have order in the church? Only confusion and chaos? Yeah, yes, you know. Morning, sir. Morning. Yeah, when you don't have order in the church, the only spirit will not even move because our God is God of order. Right. Everybody will be doing what they think is right. So there should be an order so that the only spirit can move so that people also can lay. Thank you, sir. Yeah, thank you. Thank you for sharing. Yeah. OK, what else? Have you had any personal experience where you've seen? OK, there is a certain aspect in a particular church where you've seen, OK, that happened because there was no order, any personal experiences, not asking you to name any ministries or churches, but then just an example of a personal experience. OK, I guess all our churches are perfect. All right. Cool. So no personal experiences, guys. All right. OK. Cool. So there seems like there was at least one church that was not perfect as some of us. That's the Corinthian church. So I mean, there were Corinthian church. It was it was a complex church to say the least. All right, there were a lot of disorderly manners that was taking place in the Corinthian in the Corinthian church, right, among the believers of and fellowship and whatnot. And so Paul addresses all of these issues in an in an epistle. So we know the first Corinthians and the second Corinthians, right? So he goes on to say first Corinthians, Chapter 11, verse 34. And if anyone is hungry, let him eat at home unless you come together for judgment. Now, if you remember the context of what we read this verse in the previous class was in line with what? What was the context? Lord's table. The Lord's table. Thank you, Anita. OK, someone is alive. All right. So it's a lot stable and how they were participating in the Lord's table in a disorderly manner. That means there was no reverence, right? And Paul is addressing that one that's one issue. And he goes on to say, and the rest I will set in order when I come. And so he's correcting them in an epistle saying, OK, hey, you've been doing all of this, all right. And there are other things which I will set in order when I come. And then first Corinthians four, thirty, fourteen, thirty, three goes on to say for God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, right? And so when you do have order, there is no confusion, right? Like what Jeffine has mentioned, so there won't be any confusion or chaos as in all the churches of the saints. And first Corinthians 14, verse 40 says, let all things be done decently and in order, right? It's interesting to see the word decent being used before order. And so there's something about being, you know, something about being in order or doing things in order that your decency is kind of shown or displayed, right? So, yeah, as most of you have said that God is a God of order and one of the examples that I can think of is even when Jesus had to feed the 4,000, 5,000, I made them sit in the pockets of 50, isn't it? And then imagine that one, the people are all hungry. And when people are very, very hungry, at least if I'm very hungry, I'm also angry. So the last thing I want, the only thing I want is to eat immediately. Is not for someone to say, OK, sit in pockets of 50, 50, 50, 50. Nobody is going to get the food unless all of you all sit in the pockets of 50. And then they start distributing the bread and the fish and whatnot. So, yeah, I mean, talk about order and God is a God of order, isn't it? So. So, yeah, it is important to say the least, to have order in our churches, to have, you know, to be organized. It says something about us, isn't it? And so some of the areas that we strive for excellence for our services and meetings include how can we be in order, right? Is being punctual, that means starting the services on time. Good planning for whichever event or church related or ministry related event that you are planning. So good coordination, no waste of time, no unnecessary announcement, cleanliness, efficiency and similar things. Right. So all of these things. So and we need to constantly look to how we can improve so that we can serve one another better, right? We can function one another better. Imagine, I mean, there are so many other teams, which we will learn maybe in the next hour, at least at APC Central, there are 19 different teams that function together to make one service happen, right? 19 different teams to make one church service happen. So someone can come to church and sit and enjoy the service and go back home, right? Imagine that and every team needs to work in harmony, right? The team itself needs to work in harmony. If the setup team doesn't show up, if the sound and setup team doesn't show up. Wow. Yeah. Good luck having, you know, the streaming team, everything, the media team, the worship team, the pastoral team, the parking team, children's church team, all of the so many teams, right, needs to be organized. They need to be punctual. They need to have a plan organized, right? A good coordination, communication, no waste of time or resources, right? So the goal here is to be efficient, right? And to be, you know, to be orderly. Okay, so we're going to learn some of those things and how we can, you know, be organized in church and have some sort of an order in the church, right? So one of the things is that can kind of create some kind of a confusion or even chaos if you want to use the words is the use of tongues in corporate gatherings, right? The use of the gift of tongues. We all need to use tongues to sing and speak and say hi, hello and whatnot. But what we're trying to address is the gift of tongues, right? So, and it'll be, it'll be amazed how there can be a certain, so many pockets of people in the charismatic churches that some believe in the gift of tongues and speaking in the gift of tongues and some don't. Some don't feel the need to, you know? And there are a few in, among my circle as well. So John, and I've had this conversation so it's pretty interesting. So we need to set things right, isn't it? Especially about this topic. So, can we use tongues in corporate settings? Okay, so the famous passage that we often use is first Corinthians chapter 14. Okay, so what does it have to say? A, those who do not understand what we are doing. B, when giving a message in tongues. Okay, the main concern is, one is those who do not understand what we are doing, right? And the second thing is when we, when we, when giving a message in tongues. And so it is in that context, right? If there is no one who can interpret a message in tongues, then let them keep silent is what Paul is writing in the first Corinthians chapter 14. Now, I want you to remember those two words, keep silent, okay? Can you do that for me? Remember those two words, keep silent, all right? It's important. So Paul is using that in the context where you're giving a public message, a message to the entire corporate body, the congregation itself. And if you're going to, if there's a, if you're delivering a message from God, right? If you're inspired to do that, and if there is no interpretation, then nobody's being encouraged or empowered. So it's better to keep silent and release the word when there is an interpreter, okay? But then it goes on to say, so we can all speak in tongues in a corporate setting. Just follow along with me in the notes, right? So we can all speak in tongues in a corporate setting so long as we fulfill what is required of the proper use of tongues in public setting. It is perfectly fine for individual believers to speak in tongues between themselves and God in a corporate setting, right? In the corporate setting, you know, let's say for example, if the worship leader encourages or says, you know, hey, all the pastor says, all right, for the next two minutes or five minutes, let's all just lift up our voices and pray in the spirit. It's a corporate setting, right? So we, it's absolutely fine. So it's, we are praying together, or as well as an individual, if you are inspired to just pray in the gift of tongues, release or pray or sing in tongues, it's absolutely fine, right? And so the only, we need to understand the context where Paul is saying to be silent is that if you're giving a public message to the entire congregation, if you're speaking in tongues and nobody's able to understand, then he says, keep silent. It's better to release that word when you have an interpreter, right? And another setting where it's okay to speak in the gift of tongues is if we are in a setting where everyone knows what speaking in tongues is, where everyone knows, okay, okay, gift of, you know, we have pentecostals or charismatics or what are the radicals or if you have any denomination that understands what is speaking in tongues is, then it's again, perfectly fine for everyone to speak in tongues, loudly as well, right? Since everybody knows what we are doing, it's not like you start praying in tongues and you start getting these strange looks, okay, what's happening now, right? So, all right, are you guys with me? Any thoughts that you all have on this, okay? So, I think it's very important to address about the gift of tongues and talk about it and make sure that your congregation, you know, knows that you believe in this and being able to teach everything flows from teaching, isn't it? There is a revelation in teaching and so making sure that your congregation is being taught on the subject of the tongues is very important and talking about all of this. It clears the confusion, it clears the miscommunication or the perception that every individual have about the gift of tongues and by doing so, you are also creating a culture, saying, okay, this is who we are. There's an identity that is being released, right? When you speak about such subjects openly, right? And we've seen that, as you mentioned that our God is a God of order and not chaos. We see that in John chapter three, verse eight, he also says that the wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who was born of the spirit. And so I'm 115 verse three, but our God is in heaven. He does whatever he pleases. So the scriptures there are also to say that while we are pursuing order, right? While we are pursuing to be organized, we must never forget to let God have all the control, to invite him, to let him do what he does best in everything that we do, corporately or individually as well, right? If at any time in whatever we are doing, we feel that God is directing us in ways we, which you have not planned for, which is not in your schedule as a ministry or as part of the plan. And if you feel strong, very strongly led by the Holy Spirit, it's always beautiful to obey and be sensitive and follow the leading of the Holy Spirit, right? There can be any times. I mean, so again, please forgive me if I keep taking the example of all people's church because that's where the church I attend, I work. So we use these words, right? For a service is, what is the order of service, right? Every church service has an order, isn't it? So we use those words, you know, when we are planning for a service, okay, this is the order of service. And we've been doing this for two decades and so now everybody is aware, okay, we start with worship for 45 minutes and then we have communion and then we have announcements and then we have the pastor coming and doing the declaration and then we go into the word and then we have ministry time and then we disperse, right? So there's an order of service, but we are familiar with and now that we have that order and what happens when there's a worship lead, a team is leading worship and pastor comes on the stage and he senses that God is doing something different. He's moving. So because pastor is sensitive to what the Holy Spirit is doing and saying to him, he would want to have an extended time of worship, right? Sometimes the entire service can be of only worship where it's happened a couple of times, right? So, and that's what it is about, you have the order, but then you let God be God, okay? You guys with me? I'm not sure how many of you know Jeremy Riddle he was a worship leader, right? But he leads at Binyad, Jeremy Riddle. He says, he's addressing the worship team. He says, prepare like it depends on you and lead like it depends on God, right? I'll say that again. Prepare like it depends on you, okay? So, I've seen some of the worship leaders, you know, before surely not from ABC, but you know, say, okay, you know, let's just do spontaneous worship. Let's just go prophetic worship and I'm not going to plan any songs. I'm just going to flow and whatnot. So there's no plan at all kind of a thing, you know, it's, I mean, if that's the case, every time you lead worship, everybody is going to be nervous and nobody's going to want to follow, right? But, and that's why that quote is so beautiful. He says, you prepare like it depends on you, right? I'm going to sit, I'm going to make the set list, right? I'm going to be sensitive to what songs to be chosen, you know, sung. So you're preparing like it depends on you and when you start leading worship, you're leading like it depends on God. Now, Lord, you're on the driver's seat. You take us wherever you want to go and we will follow, you know? So that's the importance of being in order and also being able to be sensitive and to follow the Holy Spirit, leading of the Holy Spirit, right? Another thing that can cause confusion and chaos when there is no order is that people can manufacture the manifestations of the Holy Spirit, right? Some people may engage in attempting to imitate the work of the Spirit through their own fleshly zeal. I know you, all of you understand what I'm saying. Is this real or is that, you know what I'm saying, right? Well, okay, that's where as leaders, as ministers, it's super important for us to be, has to have that intimate and a deep relationship with the Holy Spirit, with God and for us to be able to discern if that is off the Holy Spirit or not. That is key for us. Otherwise, there is absolutely no way we can know, isn't it? It's very important for us as ministers, as leaders, for us to have that very intimate relationship with the Lord and that you know him so much that anything which is not off him, and you're easily able to identify, okay, hey, I know my God, you know, that seems a little off. Hey, it is possible, right? I mean, nobody's perfect, you know, people, it can happen. And so if a certain individuals are incorrectly, you know, like, motivated or manufacturing, you know, with an intention through the flesh rather than the spirit, it is important that we deal with them in private, okay? You take them into your room or meet them after the service or have a call with them and say, hey, about that word you gave in church, about that thing that happened, what was that about or what was going on, right? I deal with the motives of the heart, okay? It's important to do this in private as well because, you know, if you're releasing, one of the things that we encourage when it comes to moving in the prophetic or flowing in the prophetic is that gift gets better and better as you are willing to take risk, right? So the intent, it all boils down to the intention and the motives of the heart, you know, a person's heart might be absolutely genuine and authentic and clean when they're releasing a prophetic word or a gift or a word of knowledge and it might be incorrect or whatnot, but it's okay. We are encouraging them, we are giving space for mistakes. That is different from another person whose intention and motive of the heart is only to show off, right? And so that is very different, right? So it again comes down to us as leaders and how we handle the situation, how sensitive you are to the leading of the Holy Spirit. Okay, are you guys with me? Any thoughts and any questions so far? Now, there's only a couple of things that's been mentioned in this chapter, right? That requires order and whatnot. Now, again, the list is endless. You can, you know, have a custom made list for your own church, for your congregation, that you feel there are certain areas that needs to come and, you know, have a certain order. And so you can add to it and address that. But any other thoughts, guys? Anything that you want to share? Okay, all right. So let's move on to the next chapter, chapter 22. Women in ministry. Okay, should women be in ministry? Yes, no, maybe. Okay, that's the end of this chapter. Let's move on to the next chapter. Okay, yeah, we have our answer, guys. You know, it's a little hilarious that we need to even discuss about this thing, but let's do it because, you know, for the sake of it. Now, let's see what we can learn from this chapter. Okay, women in ministry. I mean, how many examples do we need of women mentioned in the Bible, right? Okay, so chapter 22, page 137, there are multiple mentions of women in the Bible. We have Miriam, sister of Moses, who leads worship with the tambourine in our hands and all other women, you know, who follow her and with tambourine and dances, and they sang to the Lord. Verse 21, it says, answer them, sing to the Lord for he has triumphed gloriously. There's a worship leader there, right there, a women worship leader. The horse and its rider, he has thrown into the sea. Right there declaring, that's awesome. So Miriam and we know Deborah. Deborah is one of my favorite judges from the book of Judges. They were, how many judges were there? 16 judges in total? I always get that number wrong. 15 or 16, I'm not sure. Anybody, help me out, okay? I might be incredibly wrong, but okay. But yeah, Debbie was, Debbie is really one of my favorite judges, Deborah. Now Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapido was judging Israel at that time, and when she would sit under the palm tree of Deborah between Rama and Bethel in the mountains of Ephraim, and the children of Israel came up to her for judgment. Right, so a judge, in other words were, it's not just a person who gave judgments, okay? It was someone who, it was a word used for as a leader or as a savior, so to speak. That's the root meaning of the word judge, okay? So, I mean, all those years and days, they would look up to Moses and Joshua and Gideon and whatnot, and then you have Deborah, and where people of Israel are looking up to for guidance, for wisdom, for, you know, to say, okay, what can we do next? What are we supposed to do? So, there's Deborah, there's Huldah, who was the prophetess, right? She was the wife of Shalom, and there's also mention of Isaiah's wife who was also a prophetess, but there's no mention of her extensively. Of a name is just mentioned very, very, very briefly in Isaiah chapter eight, verse one and three, and Esther, some of them have, even have debates saying, why do we need to have the book of Esther in the Bible and there is no mention of God? And all of that has like, yeah, okay, we can have those conversations endlessly. But Esther was an amazing, you know, was such a powerful, she had all the characteristics of a leader, of a warrior, of an intercessor, right? So who prayed for the deliverance of her people? So Esther, Anna, Anna was more again of an intercessor, you know, she was more living a life of fasting and she also taught in the temple, the scripture says, right? You can read all about it in Luke. Phillips' daughter, in Acts chapter 21, 8 and 9. So, and the list goes on really, guys, you know, it's not just, I mean, there's so many mentions in which we will look at some more names of a few more people. We see that Paul talks about Priscilla, who is the wife of Aquila, right? In Romans chapter 16, talks about Junior in again, same chapter, Romans 16. I mean, there's quite a few mentions of the name, right? And he also mentions a couple in the Philippians, you Odia, you Odia is a tricky name, guys, okay? And again, so this is just to give a few examples of women who are mentioned in the scriptures, right? So, and so which leads us to the next question, can women be a minister for which you have all answered, you know, unanimously, very energetically? Yes. And again, to minister simply means to serve, right? Somehow we've complicated that. It's like, to minister means, oh, this is position, there's this, there's that. Can women minister or simply means what you're asking is, can they serve? And absolutely, isn't it, right? So we see that the grace to serve has been given equally to man and women, right? There is equality in the grace that is given to both genders, right? Galatians chapter three, verse 28, it says there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus, right? It should appear that that should be enough and for us to move on in life, but no, we need to talk about it more. Right? This is passage, right? And Matthew chapter four, verse four, which says man shall not live by bread alone. And the word, the Greek word man used this, Anthropos, which is gender neutral. That means it is, can be for both male and female, right? And guys, one of the, what is I saying? One of the tools that I have mentioned quite a bit that I would encourage you to use it for your Bible study and whatnot is Esor, right? If you are using a Windows system, it's a free download. If you're using a Mac, I'm sorry, you have to pay, but you have to pay, okay? And so there you get to download different versions, translations of the Bible. And you also get the Greek, what I would speak in interlinear version and also Hebrew interlinear is there. So what it does is about below the Greek words, the English translations are also there. So you know, you can see the words that is used. So it's very important for your personal growth Bible study and whatnot. So, okay, so coming back to this topic. So the Greek word used this, Anthropos, which is gender neutral for it's for both male and female, man and woman, right? And second Timothy chapter two, verse two, see what it says. And the things that you have heard from me among many witnesses commit these two faithful men who will be able to teach others also. Now again, this scripture has been manipulated or misused or misinterpreted saying, okay, commit these two faithful men. Only men is mentioned there. So women are not there. So they're not supposed to be in ministry. So don't equip them, don't train them and whatnot, right? Once again, coming back to the Greek word, the Greek word used there for men is the plural of Anthropos, which is Anthropois. Okay, it simply means a human being. Okay, it's a plural word for Anthropos, which means a human being, male or female. Doesn't matter. So the Greek word for man is aner, a-n-e-r. That is not the word that is used there. Okay, which is completely or totally masculine, as it says, right? So the general neutral word Anthropois is used in second Timothy chapter two verse two. So guys, we are just building a case right now that women can be in ministry. Okay, so that is our argument is absolutely yes. Efficient chapter four verse eight and 11, he says he gave gifts to men. Once again, it's the same Greek word, right? And he gave some. It could be he or she, general neutral, the same word that is being used there. Okay, so when God poured out his spirit on the day of Pentecost, it was for men and women, right? Male and female, it was not just for men, right? He poured out his spirit for all of us. When he died for us on the cross, he just didn't die for men. He just didn't die for man to experience his love, or just didn't die for man to experience his grace. The forgiveness was not on just for man. You know, it was for everyone. And we just saw that in Galatians that there is no Jew nor Gentile, nor slave, nor free, nor male, nor female, man, not woman. Everyone is one in Christ Jesus, right? And that is the beauty of the premise of this entire argument, isn't it? It's that we are all one. And his grace is same for everyone, right? In the New Testament also, we observe equality for both men and women in the receiving of spiritual power and grace and exercise of spiritual gifts and ministry offices. So in Ephesians, we see, right? There are five offices, pastors, teachers, the evangelists, apostles, right? And those offices are not just for men. For men can also function in those offices, right? We saw in a couple of examples in the beginning of this chapter where Hulda was a prophetess, Isaiah's wife was a prophetess. Okay, so that means they can also function in the offices of one of the five offices that's mentioned in the book of Ephesians. As mentioned, Paul talks about Priscilla, Junior and Phoebe, who are all leaders in their own right in the early church. Okay, so we've kind of established that yes, women can be in ministry, right? Okay, the next topic is the other section that talks about is women in leadership. Okay, can I request someone to read Romans chapter 12 verse four to eight, as mentioned in the notes, please. Romans chapter 12 verse four to eight. For us, we have many members in one body, but all the members do not have the same function. So we being many or one body in Christ and individually members of one another, having them gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, let us use them. If prophecy, let us prophecy in proportion to our faith or ministry, let us use it in our ministry. He who teaches in teaching, he who exports an exhortation, he who gives with liberty, with liberty, he who leads with diligence, he who shows mercy with cheerfulness. Okay, yeah, thank you, Trefina, right? So again, to reiterate the same statement that we've made before is that the gift of leadership has also been given to both men and women just as there's grace that's been showered upon both men and women for ministry. Even the gift of leadership is poured over us and everybody is expected to function in that role, right? And so, and there are so many examples, isn't it? In our own lifetime that we see who God has used like Catherine Kuhlman, Amy Semple, McPherson, who was an evangelist, Maria Woodworth at Joyce Meyer, et cetera, et cetera. And so many other generals of God who are women in our lifetime who've gone on to do such beautiful and great things, right? I mean, guys, just to say the least, I was born in a Pentecostal family, right? There was always a sound of prayer and singing in my own family, right? And one of the most beautiful sounds that I will never forget is the sound of my grandma praying in the morning, every morning at 4 a.m. faithfully as a kid. She doesn't live with us anymore. But then at the time when she used to, every morning faithfully at 4 a.m., her sound of prayer was the sweetest sound I've ever heard. That it made me sleep even more peacefully for some strange reason. And I would miss her sound, her voice of prayer. And so, I mean, thank God for women in our lives, isn't it? So yeah, I mean, should there be, if should women be in leadership? Absolutely, yes, okay. The next section talks about the same thing, the head and the headship. So we've come to the bottom of page 140. Okay, remember, I asked you to remember those two words, keep silent, right? So, first Corinthians 14, 34, 35. Can someone read that please? First Corinthians chapter 14, 34, 35. That year, women keep silent in the churches for they are not permitted to speak, but they are to be submissive as the law also says. And if they want to learn something, let them ask them shameful for women to speak in church. Okay, yeah, thanks, Jeffrey. So we've discussed quite a bit about that and we know we come and read this passage and we are like, whoa, whoa, okay, all right. And so, it's a perfect scripture why they should not be in leadership, why women should not speak in church, isn't it? And that's what it can look like when we take that verse out of context and just take a look at that text for its face value. But in first Corinthians chapter 14, that entire chapter, it's from the same chapter where we read these two verses, 34, 35, Paul uses those words, keep silent three times, right? And so now we sort of, all of a sudden it makes sense. It's like, oh, okay. So let's look at those situations, okay? Different situations that Paul uses. One is in between first Corinthians 14 verse 27 to 28, he says, speak in tongues to the church audience if there is someone who will also flow in interpretation. Else, keep silent, right? That's the first time. The second time is verse 29 and 30, immediately after, take turns to prophesy when you have delivered your prophecy, then keep silent. So, I mean, just because he said keep silent in the first part, when he talks about speaking in tongues, do we say, you know, I shall not speak in tongues ever, even if you're a Pentecostal. I mean, imagine saying that to a Pentecostal. He'll be like, what is the meaning of my life after that, right? Isn't it? What do you mean I can't speak in tongues? I'm a Pentecostal. There's no other meaning in my life if I can't speak in tongues. It's like that. And imagine, we don't, just because Paul says, keep silent after giving a word of prophecy that doesn't mean you don't release a word of prophecy again, ever again, right? Like it's all coming down to the context, isn't it? And it's the same way there is women, if you have questions, keep silent. Just ask your husband at home later. And then that is the context here, right? And so the whole point, the objective in that whole chapter or the context is order, okay? Not the stopping of the exercise of a spiritual gift or leadership, right? So we, as it says in the notes, we do not use the keep silent injunction to prevent speaking in tongues or prophecy. So why should we prevent women from preaching in church using the same injunction? It doesn't make sense, isn't it? No, that's not fair. That's just manipulating, misusing whatever you want to use. So we can't use that verse, makes first Corinthians out of context and stop women from speaking in church. And that's not it, okay? And the next section talks about, I do not permit a woman to teach. There's another famous passage from 1 Timothy chapter two verse 11 to 15, right? This is the, remember, this is the epistle or the letter that Paul is writing to Timothy, while Timothy, who is right now, pasturing the church in Ephesus, which is the church of Ephesians, okay? Then he says, let a woman learn in silence with all submission. And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence. For Adam was formed first and then Eve and then Adam was not deceived, but woman being deceived fell into transgression. Nevertheless, she will be saved in childbearing if they continue in faith, love and holiness with self-control. Okay, now again, as we've always learned that if you just take the text without the context, you're going to misunderstand it, isn't it? And this is where also studying the Bible comes into play, studying the letters, who's the audience, who's writing to whom and what is the cultural background of that audience, of that region, what was happening at that time, what was, which date, which year was it written? And then you go and just dig a little deeper, say, okay, what was happening in Ephesians, the church of Ephesus during that period. And when you dig a little deeper, you'll, as it's mentioned in the book called, I Suffer Not a Woman, which is written by Richard and Catherine Clark. It was during that period where there was a cultic worship practice that crept into the first century church where they would worship, involving a female priestess of Diana. Diana was a Greek goddess, right? Diana was a Greek goddess and the priestess of this god would, there were a lot of malpractice, cultic worship practices, teachings of sexual immorality and whatnot. And saying that, okay, the men are superior or you should need to have superiority over men and all of that. So that is the context, right? So what Paul is saying to the Ephesians was, I do not allow a woman to teach these cultic heresies, nor do I allow them to usurp authority from men by performing pagan rituals. That's what Paul is saying. I'm not going to allow them to teach about all these things or perform pagan rituals, right? That's what he's saying. What he was not saying, like we've misunderstood, is that I do not allow godly Christian women to teach the Bible. That is not what Paul is saying, isn't it? And so now that we have this context, this background of why, okay, what's happening, now it makes sense, okay? So he is trying to protect the congregation, his flock from all these false practices, false doctrines, and it's not even doctrine, it's just cultic, isn't it, in its nature. And that's the basis of Paul's argument of what he's saying to Timothy. And again, that scripture has been taken out of context and misunderstood, misinterpreted and whatnot. But as a conclusion, we must recognize that God has always used and continues to use women in different ways for the purposes of his kingdom, right? He continues to use that. And any healthy church should encourage women to excel, you know, still more in what they've been described in scripture as, you know, they're already doing so. Any healthy church should be doing that, right? I realize that we've gone five minutes over time. So we'll pause here and we'll take 10 minutes break. We'll come back in 10 minutes, all right? And we'll go into the next section, right? Thanks guys, see ya.