 Alright, I'd like to call to order the Board of Directors of Community Television's special meeting for May 10, 2019. The secretary please call the roll. Chair Mays-Harris. Here. Director Hall. Here. Director Ran. Here. Director Mannheim. Still here. Director Loren. Here. Director O'Driscoll. Here. Director Owen. Director Isaac Gonzalez. Director Lausier. Here. Launay. Launay. Here. Alright. Very good. Thank you. Alright, so we do have a quorum. I note. And we can just move on to the regular agenda. Our one item of substance, which is to approve the contract between the City of Santa Cruz, County of Santa Cruz, and Community Television of Santa Cruz County. And hopefully everybody's had a chance to review one of the versions of the plan. Speak loudly and clearly. I am doing my best. Lawrence Olivier. So, this is a budget, not an acting budget. Gravitas. Gravitas. So, yeah, there were a couple changes that were made. I had one question, but I'll start with the board. If anybody has any comments, questions, background? So, just two things I would comment on. One, just noting the email you sent around that there was one typo that's now been, that's been corrected, may not be in the version we have, which is under section 7B, the second paragraph, it should say, and at the end of the second line there where it says TV deposit accounts and inventory, that's CTV, deposit accounts and inventory. County has already acknowledged that and will change it. The other thing, I was going to suggest a one-word addition. If you go to the recitals on the first page, number eight there, it says CTV will fund a grant program to provide video production equipment for nonprofits to enhance student creativity achievements in the amount of $100,000 a year. I would recommend that we add the word qualified nonprofits so that there's some understanding that if we can't find qualified nonprofits, we would bank that money for the next year rather than an absolute obligation to... I could just put it somewhere. Yeah. Okay. That sounds like a reasonable... Yes. I think it's lovely. Anybody else have any questions, comments? I have some comments towards the end, but I didn't have any specific comments. I mean, it's virtually the same. There's the one formatting question that you... Right, and so the most recent version, I believe it has been corrected. Yeah, but somehow the 501C3... So, yeah, Kevin didn't actually... Kevin actually retyped this whole contract from the PDF, the non-OCR PDF in the board of... Oh, this one right here. The County Board of Supervisors Agenda. Wow. Yeah. So, and then, of course, Keith pointed out to me that there is that in our Google Docs. Oh, gosh. Oh, report. So, yeah, somehow I think the 501C3 got split, so the version that I have, which is the most recent version... Could you give us a page so we have some idea... That is page eight. Or a section number, because I have twice... Section 20, sub B. Yeah, A. 20. Well, A and B, it was split. Right. Somehow the 501C3, I think Word saw that as a section heading. So, it split those into two. Kevin had corrected that, so the most recent version that I posted on the website and sent out. Okay. Do you want a page number of that? Page number eight. I had... Sorry, I should wait until everybody... I see. So, subsection 20B goes... That actually is a continuation of A, and C becomes B, D becomes C. Yeah, yeah. I can show you mine. I got it. He sent me one saying, I did all the... I just re-did everything with the formatting, and that happened while I did that. Does anybody have the original contract? I came across something that I was wondering about in page 11, and exhibit A... Oh, here it is. Exhibit A, section B, number three, says all the insurance required here shall contain the following clause. It is agreed that this insurance shall be canceled or not only until 30 days. So, I'm thinking there should be a nine in there. Yeah, I think so, too. B, three, the quote, there's agreed this insurance shall not be canceled. Is that in the original? I mentioned that to Kevin this morning, it was like, check the original contract. What page are you on? Exhibit A, page 11. I have the staff report that went to the board of Supervisor. Hold on a second. I think this is an older version. It's 2003. Hold on. I'll pull it up. I just saw that. Is that in the original? Yeah. Section three. So was that fixed? He said back that later? No, I noticed it. It was in... I saw it in my email today. Let me see if it was fixed. Could you tell me... All right, so I've got the last contract pulled up. I think it should be not canceled. Where are we on that? Exhibit A, section B, number three. Section B, one, two, three. All of the insurance required initial contained the following clause. It is agreed that this insurance shall be canceled or non-renewed until 30 days after... That doesn't really make sense. It should be not canceled. They want notice. They want us to give them 30 days notice. That's in the original, so it's carried forward to here, so we just correct it now. We can't operate without insurance. That's somewhere in here. So I shouldn't say not. They want 30 days to make sure that it meets their requirement. So just add the word shall not be, not the word not. And then under Exhibit B, under the fee schedule. So this was where the city had some questions. It's because I've added a thing. Right, about the overtime. Yeah, we have accrued a whole bunch of overtime. I have a chart because the city will have 10-hour, 12-hour meetings. And so when they do that, our guys don't get a break and they don't get meal breaks and we have to pay an hour for that every time that happens. And if they go into overtime, which they do, then we have to pay double and we have to pay overtime. And we don't have that in our... We just pay them the same amount per hour no matter how many people worked and it's costing us money. So I asked Kevin about that and he agreed and he sent Tina the law that we had to pay it. But state law, right? And I think they're just... They're thinking... One of the things that happens is they open the meeting, our guys there, we start recording the meeting and then they go into closed session and you never know how long that's going to be. So they can't leave. So they can't leave. They have to wait for them to come out and then they continue. So they can't go anywhere and they just stay there because they don't know when they're going to come out. So it's a way they structure their meeting that causes it and they're considering now not having them come to open the meeting just come when... But the problem is no one knows when that's going to be. So that's not going to work either. But it is costly to have someone sitting around waiting but he can't go anywhere. And even if he could, if he went away, he couldn't get back until they came out and they told him they were out and then he would come. So, yeah. The closed session is the issue, I think. So let me just... So it says an additional $77 per hour. Yeah, that's... Based on our hourly rating. So you're saying that's in addition to... So it's one and a half. Yeah, it's one and a half. You know, maybe clarifying that overtime really is... Any hours, over eight hours will be charged at the... put the full number in there. Oh, we could do that. Because, I mean, I was like, is it only $77 an hour? Well, they should always be on overtime. No, it's a sense additional, but I can change the language. Yeah, I don't know. I was reading that going... I think I understood what you were saying. They understand it. I mean, if they got it, then that's fun. Because that's the additional. Yeah. That's just really... It's cost us thousands of dollars this year. Not a lot, but like two to three thousand dollars that we didn't have in the budget. We're trying to keep them under eight hours in capital. Santa Cruz, it's the public comment, because they don't have 50 people come in line. And they don't sell time. I don't talk to three minutes each. Oh, they don't? I thought they had it two minutes. No, total. I was asking a question. Oh, total. Yeah, they can go on and on. Everybody gets... Yeah, council, council. You can't tell from year to year what the program is. That's correct. Well, they're doing the homeless issues right now. There are a lot of people coming to, like, the pre-comments, not on the agenda, but they want to talk about it. And there's, you know, we're moving them, and then there's some other... There was some... They had the cannabis thing when that happened. It was so cute. And I guess, boy back, the bear cat. That was another giant. So as long as... Yeah, as long as there are activists, we're going to have to pay this overtime. So I mentioned that, but my question is actually on... the last time, DVDs. So are we charging hourly for bringing DVDs, or is that a per DVD? That's a per DVD, but we discourage them. We usually send them a link. They do say hourly there. The units say hourly. Well, maybe it is. Oh, it does say hourly. Oh, yes, because it depends on how long it is. No, the DVD here says each $25. What is the hourly part? No, but not on the new one. Oh, the new one. I'm looking at the old one. The old one is right. Yeah, technical support is hourly. And each is... So this is even cheaper than it used to be. That's old. Just change hourly to each. Yeah, there it is. Oh, hourly. That's the typing issue, I guess. $25 an hour to bring DVDs? As many as you can burn an hour. Are you keeping track of all these changes? Yes. I'm trying to remember. We don't have to rehash these small things we're talking about. I guess my only other question is not really... I mean, it's just the 56 hours and page three, the pay... So there's no... We've never had any issues with... It doesn't have to be new programming. There's no... I mean, we can rerun... Okay. Locally produced programming. It's section one. It's section 1K of locally produced video programming. That's actually required by the state programs. We have to produce 56 or 58 hours. 56. Well, not produced, but provided, right? I mean, air. Well, yeah, we don't have to produce. It just has to be there and it can be things that we make or things that people in the community have and would like to go on the air. And there's no requirement that has to be original No. If you have a show that you made two years ago and you want to put it on the air and you're a resident, you can do that. Or even if you have a friend in another community television who made a show and you'd like to air here, you can do that. Okay. One last question. There's only mention of Comcast here. There's no mention of Charter, right? This is with the city and county. City and county are... We don't have Comcast. But they don't provide any... They don't provide franchise fees? Not to this. They provide them... Well, do they provide franchise fees? They don't give us franchise. We don't get them. Right, you don't. You don't get it directly. It comes to the county, the city. That's the question I was about. Well, franchise fees... There's probably a different franchise. Charter's franchise is not with the county, I don't think. No, they're with the city. It's just with... And Watsonville. And I don't know whether... I mean, they get franchise fees. I don't know if they get pet fees or not and whether... We used to get some money from them, but they stopped. We didn't get money. They talked from Watsonville and Capitola? Yeah, through them. I'm not exactly the process, but at some point... Kamala Harris told them, forget it, you can't do that. They claimed it was a tax. We should have asked him and he said it's coming very slowly. Kevin, yeah. That was it for me. Anybody else have any? Joey said you had some... Oh, and towards the end, I have a thought of what to do, but I'll share that. In terms of emotion, yeah. Well, I'll throw out an idea and then I can turn it into emotion. We don't know what the city is going to say, but we do have to meet some deadlines. My thought is this is so similar to what we had unless there's some major changes. I'd be willing to put emotion out to have the executive director, the chair and the vice chair and Tom, if they agree that it's minor, just give them the authority to approve it and be done with it so we don't have to have a second meeting. And that may happen real fast or who knows, but... And then that gives you the authority to ask the city what their thoughts are if there is something. Kevin says, call up, you can just do it right there. You don't need another meeting. As one of the people you mentioned, my only concern with that is that I will be out of town from the 21st through the 26th. Well, I'll just put now at least of that two are available. Executive director, chair, vice chair and Tom. And reason for Tom is he's on the finance committee. And I am a city employee, so I think I have probably a conflict of interest, but not positive. I'm a county employee. Well, whatever the case, the questions are being raised by the body I represent. The city, yeah, the county's already approved it. So, I'm in the clear. So, unless Larry, you want to be involved? Well, I mean, I can if Tom can can't. I'll make a really long motion. How about a minimum of three? When we're meeting on the 20th as well, right? They want to try to have it done before then? Because of the budget? Oh, okay. We'll see what happens. I'll throw a motion out and try to put every contingency on. I can think of. I'll move that we approve the proposed draft contract with the county of Santa Cruz and city of Santa Cruz, subject to changes which may be made by the city of Santa Cruz so long as those changes are acceptable to three of the five people mentioned. The chair, vice chair, secretary or Tom Mannheim and they have the authority to approve the contract for purposes of acting by the county board supervisors in the meantime and then the second part of it is if for some reason this matters delayed beyond our next meeting it just be placed on the meeting agenda for regular action. I can repeat it. Check. Does your motion also include the I think four changes that we talked about? And I'll accept that as a friendly amendment. Let me just go over them and make sure you've got them. One is adding the word qualified to the recitals number eight so that it reads production equipment for qualified nonprofits to enhance student creativity. Adding the letter C before TV in that's section 7B in the second paragraph section 7B that's already been changed that's in the latest that gets distributed because I didn't see it section 20 limited collapsing what currently are sections 20A and 20B and 1 this paragraph So are we just adding qualified? And then changing hourly to each. And we have the not Yes, the not. Exhibit A. Exhibit A not and exhibit B each. I have all three. So we have qualified to not eat. Okay, we got it. Just put them in. She's not qualified. Okay, so I accept that it's a friendly amendment. So I made a long motion. Until to point it out, I don't have to use my photographic memory to repeat it. I used to. My wife gets I forget I just thought that covered both contingencies. One, be able to act reasonably quickly. And two, if nothing happens before our next meeting, it comes to the full board. I'll second that motion. We have a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion? I'll call the vote. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed or abstentions? So unanimously. So on the other item on our agenda is adjournment. Is there a motion for adjournment? Second. He's first. We haven't done one yet. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? We are adjourned.