 Yn ymlaen, yma yw'r panel o'r Minister? Yn ymlaen, mae'n gwybod i gwybod yma'r ysgrifennu. Ac mae'n hynny'n ymlaen i gyd o'r bydd. Mae'n ddweud yma'r ysgrifennu ar gyfer Minister yma'r edrych a Minister o ICT. Yn ymlaen, mae Tim Unwyn. Mae'r cyflawn i'r unesgo yma, yma'r unesgo yma'r cyfriddensiol, ac mae'r cyfriddensiol yma'r cyfriddensiol yma'r cyfriddensiol yma'r ymlaen i'r ysgrifennu. A cofnodd y ysgol, na hearian, y Llyfrgell Bwyrhig eich ffawr i bwysig, Mentrodd a'r dyfodol, byddwn nhw yng Ngharogwyd Cymru i gynhyrchu'r cyflascideb yn llawer o'r rôl Y bwysig wedi eu cyfiamyr o'u gwirio o'r dyfodol yn gafodol i gaelwydol, Roedd gynhyrchu'r gwaith exceptionaliad, yw chelw'r ydydd i'r gwirio'i digidol yn gyfloddiad ar y cyfrifos the most marginalised within our societies, to have a better life. And as Indrajit said just earlier, the poorest and the most marginalised for me are not actually women, but people with disabilities. Yes, we have to do more on gender, but people with disabilities have perhaps the most to gain from our use of technologies. But one of the key findings of the Empyreng Development Initiative has been, and I think we all know it, but rarely speak it, that there is never enough integration in government. Very rarely do ministers of technology, ministers of education, finance ministers, ministers of infrastructure actually have those discussions that are so essential to make things happen. We have to have integrated joined up approaches. And that is why the collaboration at the highest level between UN bodies such as the ITU and UNESCO matters. The ITU and UNESCO have long collaborated in the Broadband Commission through Brahima and the colleagues in UNESCO. We're now trying to make this more joined up at the ministerial level across the board. So that is the purpose of today's session. I'm asking the ministers each to contribute for only five minutes and here I need your help because they will be looking at you, not me. Now some of you know about sports, so I have a yellow card, ministers, which means you have one minute to go, and a red card, which means, and I have been told that there are secret devices under this table that actually can do things to people if they don't keep quiet. But in reality, if I show the red card and they don't notice it, can you wave? We need participle interaction. I know they're important, I know they're ministers, but we have to be equal and treat them that way. So I will have a pinger. These aren't anything about communication other than it's an alarm clock. I'll put it there as well when the time is really up. Okay, I want this to be interactive. They're going to keep speaking for a relatively short time so we can again get audience participation in this. The ITU have given me a script to read, so I must now behave. Some of you who know me know I'm not used to behaving, but I will do my best to be civil polite and encourage debate. So you get the idea, Honourable Ministers, we're going to have fun today, but actually do good business. So formally, the new Sustainable Development Goals, can anybody remember any of them? I said I wasn't going to be naughty, so I mustn't say things like that. But they're meant to, no, sorry, they are providing a broad common framework and vision for development in the future. And we all know that mobile learning has enormous potential to support the attainment of a range of goals, indeed all of the goals, but particularly SDG4. And we can see how it has the potential to address inequalities of learning opportunities between rural and urban children and young people. Or introducing pedagogical opportunities within the education system, improving school administration, extending the reach of education beyond the classroom into areas such as vocational and technical education, which is so important. Allowing students to take a more active role in their own learning, as we've heard about earlier this week. Mobile learning has a key role to enable girls to have access to education where there are few formal opportunities. And it has, as I've said, a key role to play in supporting people with disabilities. So Honourable George Cronisanyan Werner, Minister of Education in Liberia, let me begin with you. You have drawn the short straw, the five minute test. So in five minutes, how do you see the potential and opportunities of mobile learning in the context of your country? Thank you, Mr Moderator. Ladies and gentlemen, within the time available to us, let me speak succinctly, as I possibly can, about five things in five minutes. And the first is what the sustainable development goals call for, lifelong learning, peace and stability. If we are going to have peace and stability, we must invest in jobs. There is a connection between technology and job creation. That's the first thing. The second thing is STEM education to increase economic development. The third thing is research collaboration for universities to increase the level of studies, integrate them and create a global workforce. The fourth is an idea that we in Liberia have been in the way, playing with and sharing with others. For many of us in that part of the world, we know that an unplanned pregnancy is the reason why a girl will not go to school. Technology has a role to play in terms of allowing girls, when they get pregnant, to continue their education through graduation, but also helping them through technology to stay in touch with their doctors and keep their appointments. So health and education collaborating to keep girls in school using technology. The fifth thing that we want to stress is the policy outline, which is where this should begin, must integrate partnerships, public-private partnerships, that why a private provider can make a small profit with aim at, as many have said, not leaving any child behind because of geography where they live, because of income, or because they are not connected to the right family. We in Liberia, our doors are open. We've had several tragedies in our lives that set us back, but in the context of the sustainable development goals, we want to be radical. We don't want to rebuild what was or restore what was. We want something new. This forum provides us with that opportunity to create such partnerships. An important question is therefore how to build the school infrastructure that is needed to support mobile learning, including the upgrade, full deployment of broadband, Wi-Fi network connectivity, as well as, of course, and we often forget it, the provision of reliable electricity in schools and particularly in rural mountainous areas. This is really important if we are to achieve the need for universal coverage of the education system. So I now turn to you, your Excellency Aminata Sanacongo, Minister of Development for the Digital Economy and Posts in Burkina Faso. Cymond o ffraeg connectivity a large bond poll i'r ecol i'r autres etablismos d'n syniamon sarrant a bordei don le politic national i le plon ddeic a'r large bond? Cyddoa supporte le cw, ond particular, poll i'r zone mal deserfi? I atil un rool posibl poll i'r ffond de servis unifesel don sus la? Madame Ministre. Le Bwkina Faso a'r realise la reforme du secteur de telecomunicatio a 1988, sef chi a'r pirmu de bwster le secteur a'n antrennau le developement de reisod i servis. Trois opirateur telefonu asur un couvertu du teritioir a 92% a fydd pwy de 12 miliwn ddabone sur un populatio'n de 17 miliwn. Deus opirateur syl tre offer le servis de tro age sef chi a'n treneu un'n eksplosio de l'utilisation de l'internet a fawr a'n 2 miliwn ddabone. Le mobil e'n puisant vecteur du developement pwy mon pei. Gras a sa gran capacité de difusio, le mobil pwy rha'r contribuio a augmenter le taw de scolarisatio pa'r skil ffasilit l'accès a l'informatio i o savawr pirmetant o populatio le plw ysglafau d'acceder a la cwnaesans. La cwnectiviteil a'r gwaith i'r hoad ddechegol a gwaith o'r ymddangon eit iddynt gweithio ddegwyr hefyd pwy�banaeth o'r tyfu aion yn gwneud o'ch gwaith. A'r problematio e'n wneud wedi gyd-gweithio pwy sy'n defnyddio ddechrau. E'n byth i nhw'n du'n du'n credu eitha'r gwaith e'n gwneud eitha'n defnyddio ddabone o'r bydd y gwaith yn gweithio ar atsfawr eitha'u gweithio ar gweithu. Mae yna nhw'n ddechrau ydy'r b ddechrau oedol, a gwylon i fod yn dod, a'r byd, sy'n defnyddio i swyddeth cynllunau. Y cymdeithaseth yma yw ddechrau, os ydych yn roi'r hunan ni, a'r byd yna'r effركau lleidion yn ymergyrchu, ac mae'n bod i'r rhwng y byd yn ei ddim yn amlwg chi'n mynd, ac yn petrwch yn ei ddim yn ei ddim yn ei ddim yn ei ddim yn ei ddim yn ei ddim yn ei ddim yn rathodg. ..a range of policies fundamentally to improve the learning experience through greater personalisation and learner autonomy. Introducing collaborative learning and improving a range of pedagogical approaches theoretically for maximum beneficial impact. And hopefully they can be used to meet or exceed educational goals. ..a Seniora Citaria Hamengilda Maboti, Inspector General for the Ministry of Education in Mozambique. Cysawer o'r prinsipau ish beneficio sy'n cyfoddon sy'r traig atrewezdo a'r pranzisagio ym Mowvel i Mozambique. Only in general education we have about 7 million students. In primary schools 6 million students. So the need of M learning is very, very big. And we think that with M learning we can increase the population and school attendance and reduce drop out rates that is very high in our countries. Especially among girls. We can also democratise and spread access to knowledge. Increase teachers access to IT creating for this purpose initiatives that involves a set of stakeholders from the private sector, banks, telephone companies, operators in the equipment and content suppliers. We can also boost the consumption of digital contents by teachers and gradually their production and sharing. Contribute for the introduction of ITs in the classrooms has a learning and management tool has to positively change the teacher's role. Increase access to information and knowledge to girls and women particularly in isolated areas. We can also provide learning and life skills that fits individual needs. Another thing that mobile learn can do in our country is to ensure a more inclusive and relevant education for all. That is a major constraints. The development of electronic contents and applications allows the growth of knowledge based in the country. Can also empower citizens with the critical skills for the country's economy. Through mobile learning we can transmit useful information to the families. Streamline local business community and promote entrepreneurship. Lastly, I would like to say that because I'm learning a low and open network, I think that one of the major benefits for the education sector is the communication among teachers and students with different experiences and visions. Which means a great richness way to build the strong in the sustainable future for all. Thank you. A personal device for every student and teacher would mean that its use becomes integrated into their lives and their learning beyond the classroom as they walk to and from school at home. However, introducing M learning is likely to be expensive particularly for national scale projects to be rolled out in schools. Indeed, there have been some trials to manufacture devices particularly for education, but there have often been issues with their quality and sustainability. That having been said, the availability now of smartphones for maybe $35 or certainly $50 is beginning to change the game. Greater availability and the falling prices of consumer mobile devices also undermine the economic argument for developing devices specific for education. So, we turn now to Mr Kuma, Director General of Digital Economy in the Post in Gabon. Monsieur, cwp on se vw s'on le meir strategie po se prgyr i le material necessité po les écoles, les tablettes, les appareils mobiles, wifi, les ordinateurs portables, et cetera, et cetera, po des projecte d'education à l'échelle nationale. Cometh le'r ffinancement peut être reman tenu. Monsieur. Si, je suis donc Syriac d'Iddi Cuma, director journal à promotion de l'economie numérique. Je parle ici au nom du ministre de l'economie numérique et de la poste du Gabon. Son excellence Pasteur Gwanaam qui malheureuse mo n'a papu fel au déplacement de Paris ce jour. Effectivement, abordeu cette question du finance des devices, donc des essais équipements d'accès, c'est de parler la question de l'accès de l'eurofinancement. Jwet donc tout de suite vous exprimer rapidement le context gabonet et c'est tellement vous relever un peu les difficultés que nous avons. Faut dire que le gabon, donc c'est un pays d'a peu prins 1 800 habitants, donc 45% de la population est jeune, avec un taux d'alphabetisation qui est autour de 97%. Aujourd'hui, we have put in place, we are currently deploying a digital strategy on 3 axes, namely normalisation, the construction of global infrastructure and the development of the content. It is in this frame that we have today two points of interest, where the Gabon is open on the international and there is a mesh of chief places of capital and a dorsal that is coming from its head to link the country and the second phase that follows. What is happening today, but the technology in the centre of development is not the infrastructure for the infrastructure at all. In terms of continuous development, it is the second axis. We think that to develop these taxes, it is necessary to have a critical mass of specialists and specialists to create these content in digital, because if we need these equipment, it is to go and get information, but the information that is also typical beyond the global information that we can receive through the world. That is why we are currently developing a network of entrepreneurs. These network of entrepreneurs, piloted at the level of the Ministry of Digital Economy, work closely with the ministers in charge of specific public policies, because it is necessary to say that the question of digital is therefore transversal. The first project on which we are working on is the one of health today, all that is enumerating health care applications and which has already benefited from funding. We want to open the other wall very quickly, which will be the one of education, but now we have started development experiences with digital classes. Today we have deployed more than this class, where we have also raised other pilot classes this time with mobile tablets. Today we continue to think with the Ministry of Education to elaborate a strategy. These are elements to wait for us to fund here to quickly find funding in that sense. We must say that once we have tried different elements, what we have observed is already a fundamental problem. It is the one of change, the company of change, because of the teachers that we have chosen as targets to train, finally to change, even become a front for many other reasons that we can always eliminate and that we need to have some support. The question of accessibility is not only in Libreville, we have a number of projects that are the public access point on the internet that we call PAPI. PAPI refers to the grandfather. In Africa, when you want to know your grandfather, and today, to have the knowledge, you go to the internet. So the public access point on the internet is the new PAPI that we want to develop and deploy in rural areas to allow those there to access to the knowledge. Overall, we are not going to be longer to show the spirit of the grandfather and the need for us to finance the change, to finance the development of the content, and especially the management, because one of the big projects that remains in our infrastructure strategy is a data center. Overall, to be brief and to tell the difficulties and the situation of the grandfather. A roadmap for the introduction of mobile learning is needed to identify a series of steps or phases together with overall aims, budget, responsibilities, and action required. The Singapore government, for example, developed three five-year master plans to guide implementation. The first addressed building the foundation, the second seeding innovation, and the third strengthening and sustaining. Mr Lwfsan Jamts, director of Innovation, Ministry of Education, Culture and Science in Mongolia. Why do you think that it's important to develop national digital learning strategies? What should these include, and what is the best way to develop them in collaboration with the ICT sector? As you mentioned about the roadmap for the policy implementation, so in 2012, we adopted the ICT policy framework. It was adopted by the government. Within the last three and four years, we have achieved a lot. So because the education is the most important sector, an important public service delivery in Mongolia, because we have such a long tradition of supporting the kids learning in a family, in home in a family. As you know, it's more like in Korea's family, that really pay attention to the kids learning. So we do pay much. That's why our strategies, we want to bring the old people in Mongolia, all nations in education. Also since 2012, we started the new policy agenda, which is calling supporting every child's learning in Mongolia. Within this policy framework, we have elaborated how we support, encourage this policy implementation by use of the mobile technology and by innovation strategies. That's why we are clearly defining the key targets and objectives within the basic infrastructure development and teachers' ICT development and also the content development. So last four years, we have achieved some notable success. First of all, we established the nationwide education sector, enterprise architecture, which is kind of the software platform, which covers all schools, public schools in Mongolia as well as all provinces. Now in the system, we have registered all students. We have like for primary and secondary, we have almost half million students and the plus 28,000 of the teachers, all the personal and by data now in our system. Now from this march, this system works as a real-time basis. Now all the shift and all the education process for instance assessment and the teachers' performance and the school performance are now in a real-time basis registration. That is the first step of this policy agenda. So also we have created the nationwide education sector data center and as well as virtual private network. Now in Lambert City, capital of Mongolia, we have established up to 10 gigabytes of rings in the countryside, like in the provincial level. We have established up to 1 gigabyte network system. So by the end of this year, we will make connectivity for all schools. Now 77% of the schools, they are connected in the network and also in the integrated national education architecture. Our challenge is the key issue is to encourage the capacity development of the teachers and as well as I see the literacy of the teachers. For this issue, we are planning to create new funds for content development and for the teachers' capacity building. This year is the final year of this first stage of this policy framework and it's the right time we discuss this issue in Paris with the support of UNESCO. So because it is July, we expect to have the parliamentary election. From this year, we will formulate new targets for the next four years. First stage was really successfully implemented because now we are great at the nationwide infrastructure and the basic platform for education sector management. For the next four years, we will consider more about coherence and to encourage the synergy of the different public sectors based on our system. Thank you very much. Developing a vibrant local ICT environment for mobile learning is crucial if we are to have appropriate mobile learning content and services that are culturally adapted while also applying good pedagogical approaches. The system includes mobile learning service providers, app developers, cloud service providers, telecommunications providers, content developers, security experts and many others. This can also be a source for important new business developments for SMEs. One of Hulun Jaws, the Secretary-General of the ITU, co-initiatives building SMEs. Your Excellency Dr Anusha Rahman Khan, Minister of State for ICT in Pakistan. How do you think that the local ICT industry can benefit from the large opportunities that mobile learning can offer for business and income generation? How best can we stimulate local entrepreneurs to innovate for the education sector? Honourable Minister. Certainly ICT ministries are going to play a more meaningful and key role in achieving the sustainable development goals. They lie at the heart of all the work that we do, whether it's agriculture, education, health, learning, and ICT ministries will continue to play that role in the next 15 years. You will see the enhanced participation. The innovation in ICT certainly is redefining the dimensions of socio-economic development in the world. I would just like to share with you that the expansion and roll-out of mobile infrastructure and services and the introduction of smartphones have played a great role towards digital divide. Pakistan today is ranked, according to a recent report, as the top most technology user country in the South Asia. Ranking at number four in the E-Lam Seng. Thank you. We are also ranked at number four in E-Lam Seng, with 70% tele-density, and the mobile broadband now ranked over 15% just in the last one year. Pakistan is playing its role towards adopting innovation and investment in the sector. The Government of Pakistan is realising the significance of these developments in the fields of ICT, and we have accorded the highest priority into the leadership of Prime Minister Nawaz Shareef to develop ICT infrastructure, and to develop education development for the provisioning of quality E&M services. We all understand and completely support the fact that we need to create employment opportunities, increase economic growth, and broadband penetration. To be able to do that, we require financing. For the financing side, I would like to share with all of us here who are not in the ICT sector, but the education ministries, the universal service fund, which is being set up by the governments and the contribution comes from the telecom companies. We need to spend that money for the rollout of technology infrastructure in the countries. It's not about the urban cities. It's not about the metropolitan. It's about the underserved and unserved who are to be taken into the fold of technology and to be connected. So how do we do that? First of all, we diverse the funds. The sustainable development goals require that all whatever we are trying to do is available for every citizen on the globe. And technology is a means to reaching those people. So to take the infrastructure rollout with the underserved and unserved areas, we have to focus at the policy level that we will connect the unconnected. We need to connect the next 4.5 billion people by 2020, and we need to all work together to be able to achieve that goal. Now, the facilitation and the mobile learning innovation processes and quality assurance measures, how do we achieve that? Just by rolling out the optic fibre cable and just by providing the technology, we will not be able to achieve the true benefits unless we train the users, unless we train people how to use the technology for the benefit for the socio-economic development of the people, how we can use the technology to uplift the role of the women and girls and the people with disabilities in the society. So for that, we need to come forward and we need to bring out the public-private partnership. Without the public-private partnership, we will not be able to realise the full potential of technology. In Pakistan, we are working with private sector to be able to achieve that goal. The Universal Service Fund in my country is recognised in the international community as one of the most successful funds which we roll out with the help of the private sector. And now that using the fund actively, we are also with the help of private sector. For example, I would like to name a few companies who are working with me like Microsoft and Cisco to train young girls with coding and cloud computing. We have to train the children at a very young age and particularly the girls so that they can be economically empowered. If we can achieve that, because technology alone cannot and will not solve the issue, we need to train the teachers where the open source material is available. We have to train the teachers in innovation. We have to train the teachers to train the students in the right dimension. Life is beyond social media usage. Life is beyond games. Life is about building a dynamic knowledge-based economy. So one of the potential business cases for the ICT industry is to use the mobile technology as a vehicle to help bring high-quality learning to people who did not previously have access to it. And I would just like to make one more remark here that the focus should be to define the characteristics of high-quality mobile learning content and models which will prompt the production and buy dissemination of the content. The local language content is one of the key areas of development going forward particularly in my country. It's true mutual collaboration with the stakeholders of the education and ICT sectors of the country. We can develop mobile technologies which can accelerate the use and sharing of open educational resources and simultaneously better support content in local languages. Since many educators are sitting here, we would like to... The ITU can play a very key role in bringing out the ICT ministries together with UNESCO and other organisations who have to champion their role in their respective areas to develop the internet connectivity to bring out the student-centric applications and going forward to take out the big data, cloud solutions and other technology ventures into the motion. Thank you. Many M Learning initiatives concentrate on devices and enabling students to access these, but often don't really adequately address the needs of teachers, school leaders and other staff. Teachers have to be the leaders and be put at the heart to enable them to learn how to integrate mobile technologies into teaching and administration to ensure the success of any M Learning initiative. Teachers must have confidence with technology and should never fear that students are more ahead of them. Personally, I don't believe in this generational gap. People are able to learn just as well as younger people. They need similar amounts of time. So, Your Excellency, how do you think we can bring teachers fully on board? What are the essential elements for continuing professional development programmes for teachers on mobile learning with perhaps some examples from your country? There's going to be about 5 billion new people coming online in the next 10 years. If that's the case, if Kenya is going to remain competitive, we'll have everybody moving into digital. The election campaign was saying that Kenya is going to be a digital country and we're going to have a digital knowledge economy. To do that, we must then educate everybody. Primarily the education is through the teachers. We also do need to have the right infrastructure in place. The project that we have in place, which we call the digital learning programme, we've been implementing for the last three years, is primarily focused on being able to ensure firstly is relevant content that the teachers agree with and understand. So today we have trained over 66,000 teachers and primarily to support first the standard one pupils in the primary schools so that they will be able to then grow as we review our curriculum in the next few years. The key challenge is first making sure that the content is universal across the country. The country is diverse. You've got very rural areas where there is no electricity to places that are fully urban with 4G networks, which makes it difficult if you want to make sure that there's even training and support for all the schools. So what we've done is we've got a programme where we are rolling out infrastructure. This is the electricity to the schools, ensuring that we have broadband in the schools and this is now being provided by the private sector for free to over 22,000 schools. This is also going to ensure that we're able to provide online learning but the teachers are at the heart of it. We're ensuring that they are fully trained and we're doing this on a quarterly basis. We've started a pilot programme where we have 150 schools in all 47 counties of the country. We have an urban, peri-urban and a rural school in place and each of those schools has two teachers being trained and continuously being informed about new technologies and new ways of using the different devices. When we started the programme, we initially thought one device could work for the whole country but we've seen that we can actually have multiple devices with local manufacturing that's going to allow for both the learning on not just the content but also the building of the infrastructure and the distribution logistics to make this work. So for teachers, we've ensured that they are the first to learn and they have access to the content, they contribute to the content as well and are comfortable with it and in that way they are able to support the students and the parents who need to ensure that we have continued use of the technologies. Thank you very much. Thank you. We have a rich diet of information and ideas. We have timely ministers. This is almost unheard of. We know that developing education strategies is not difficult. Infrastructure elements, curriculum, pedagogy, introducing technologies. This is not rocket science in 2016. My question to you is somewhere else. How do you create political will in your countries? I know how much UNESCO is suffering in countries in the world to make a politician, a policy maker sitting behind a desk sign on a strategy or a policy to improve education systems. How do you overcome partisan politics? Every minister want to come and design a new strategy. The previous one is good but we want to redo it because we want to improve success ourselves. How do you get the buy-in of your public servants and many times they're so behind in technology? The issue most of the time is political. How do you overcome this? Thank you very much. I would like to take the political will answer first. If there was no political will none of us would be sitting here. I think when there is political will you will find ministers proactively participating in these discussions and taking it on as our duty that now that we have all signed up the Sustainable Development Goals we are all committed to the Sustainable Development Goals why we are also committed is because we don't want them to fail again like the MDGs and we are all trying to facilitate the process of achieving the goals that we have set for ourselves nobody has forced those roles upon us those have been this is an activity which we have ourselves taken it upon ourselves. The political will definitely is accruing the times are changing very first. My country the youth population is 60% we are about 200 million people in Pakistan and 60% comprises of people who are under the age of 30 and education is lying at the heart of a policy frameworks. The telecom policy 2015 the document that Prime Minister has given out just in December 2015 is focusing on infrastructure providing EM services putting education at the heart of my telecom policy. It is a document that we are pursuing and we are allocating funding for that as well. So the infrastructure deployment I mean I would like to share with you that we have just in the last one year we have allocated projects of 20 billion rupees in the underserved, unserved areas to provide 3G services the rural telephony services optic fibre cable to provide services to the underserved to get them connected so these policies are now something that we have all made together, committed as a global community to the documents that we have signed in putting them in our domestic policy frameworks which are now rolling out so when you come to that stage it is very difficult to undo the work that has already been done because then there is a political backlash to it. So that's my answer the regulator is absolutely championing the cause of people with disabilities as well but are there any ministers of education here who would like to tackle the question about changing pedagogies? When we are focusing on infrastructure and when we are ranked as the top south Asian country using technology and uptake of telecommunication perhaps other countries would have reached that goal earlier so when we are learning from each other I believe that the open educational resources are all there to be taken care to be adopted and if you are going to reinvent the wheel and we are looking for perfection we will not be able to achieve it so we need to go step by step and see what the technologies have given to other developed countries all those who have tested and tried it and learning from their improvement according to our local circumstances we cannot have one size fit all strategy so I think that we can work in cooperation and collaboration and work together with yourselves to find out what has worked and what has not worked rather than testing and failing I would like to test, try and succeed Thank you very much I'm sure that some of these initiatives to enable teachers to have free access to the internet are sustainable if anyone would like to take that and the second I think is crucial and we really must address it is the issue around security and I know that minister Anusha but I think if other people want to take that but if they don't I'd like because I know you champion that cause so would anyone like to respond with some good ideas around how you make things sustainable and we'll then come to Kenya at the end Yes madam Telephone companies and they are quite involved in giving us free internet for different schools especially secondary schools because we as education sector we alone we cannot afford to spread internet and fortunately many of the companies we have in place are giving us the opportunities of having free internet for different schools secondary schools and universities That's fantastic So multi-stakeholder partnerships is certainly one option I just want to intervene on the question of free access to the internet or to the teachers I want to take the exam of Bukina Faso We have a network called the national information network of the administration so it's a network where we load the money passing at the level of an operator to connect the different buildings of the administration including the Ministry of Education and there is also the Backbone project that will boost the problem so that the teachers can have the free access to the internet Thank you Thank you Madam We are very briefly on something that you are doing on cyberbullying harassment all of these issues It's very important First of all I would just like to apprise this honourable forum that the security issue is being handled by the visis and just recently we discussed it under visis 10 at the United Nations and cyber security and cyber crimes are being handled at that platform so ITU alone is not looking at security it's a much broader subject In Pakistan we are now championing the cyber security legislation cyber crimes bill is being discussed where we are putting in special provisions where we are providing internet which is safe for women for girls particularly and providing a safe internet zone for everybody for all the users we know after looking at the stats that the females are leaving the internet space because of cyberbullying cyber issues phishing and other cyber security issues and we want the women and the girls to come back on the internet and we need to create special legislation for that so that they feel secure online so our basic I would like to say is behind the cyber security law the cyber crimes law that we are formulating here being discussed at the National Assembly is that the users should have the same rights online as they have offline so you cover the freedom of expression and you also handle the cyber challenges that you just mentioned Could you just in one minute each to conclude this session try and say what the challenge is or turn it round the other way what's your greatest dream biggest challenge has been I would say vendors so ensuring that you're getting the right devices for project of this size there's a lot of money that is being spent and therefore a lot of interest from everybody and ensuring that it is done openly and correctly that's been I would say our number one challenge but we've overcome that so far the literacy rate so that everybody can read and can read and have access to M learning I think the big challenge is to teachers I see the literacy and the development so but we are with to share the different international experiences and bringing into the Mongolian context but the problem is also not about the teachers and as well as the key issues the students they must you know if they willing to use the ICT the government we will provide involvement to use that maybe the I don't know that much about the pedagogical risk taking so because it's better to the teachers they can cooperate with the students in the classroom level maybe there are the teachers only they can in a driver of pedagogy and also the teachers they can learn from the students also they can cooperate they can use together or ICT devices in a classroom regarding the cable security we have the legislation as well as we we consider that when we started this project education platform now that we are working on the digital signature digital signature project so within the two years after we plan it to all citizens in Mongolia would have digital own personal signature so then we can solve this issue and as well as also that we are in a parallel in our system in a parallel we are backing up our old data all progress we are backing in a national separate national data centre so thank you very much any challenges frankly because if we all work together when there is a will there is a way and if you work together we can achieve all our goals and my ambition frankly is very clear I need accelerated digitised ecosystem with special emphasis on bridging the broadband divide to enable socio-economic growth and to funding the knowledge based economies for economic growth provide and bring the girls in the mainstream empower them and to work for the people with disabilities we can all achieve it together. The great challenge as I said earlier is really to rethink the information but not the teachers even the journalists who are also mass educators it is a problem of the fund because it is the question of the mass of information that we have access to so we have to be good coaches and one of the great challenges that we have to solve and the dream of Gabon is to bring technology to everyone even I am going to speak rural areas so that the equality of chance is agreed to all. My country will continue to develop the large ban project and the integration of ethics at the level of education. Thank you. I thank the honourable ministers for making this session.