 So it's time to go to work though man, and you know how we do play me some pimpin man Yeah, you got to play some real pimpish Before we get this thing started Yeah, you must a new life was coming Oh that just sounds just real like real mackish right there That's the head of my orchestra No, that's jo in yeah, we got orchestra man a 19-piece junkyard garage bed all black musicians This is some old school like velvet Just feel that's it. There's my brother Told y'all had some pimpin for you right here Yeah, yeah, Jack, how you feel about man this this exit I'm fucking with yeah For all the ladies who look good with the Walmart panties on I'll close you Make it clap with the Walmart panties on yeah, or don't Don't to everybody who like to do with this socks on It's your song right here This is taking me right here though. Like I like this life for real for me. You can fool with this No, it's like a nigga. It's a skinny nigga with a shower cap on or some shit, you know Oh, that's how it feel yeah, and it's feel like like I could write some real love shit You know that like this regular love shit to be lying. Oh, you want some love shit So play me some love shit, bro. This life genious, but we'll put we'll bring this one back You think that you just got one man my partner been working on this shit since Going to love foul, bro. He got what watch this. This was almost in the country We almost put that in there. Remember. I told you we was gonna sample that oh my darling and loop it Oh Louv it speed it up pitch it up a little bit Voted the number one black music show that's not even on a music platform I Already been the number one black TV show that's not on TV for like man is gonna be playing us some wonderful sounds from the Bando I Got my man none other than Jack thriller holding it down Now we got a very special guest in the trap with us today Jack One of the coldest Musicians They ever come About the hood Got some of the most relatable music some timeless classic joints long list of accolades a real nigga if you ever What's the little one up My player partner and I was just sitting here telling them that niggas be listening to this shit when they be going through On the play list with get your shit back together Right before we get back to the fuck these whole music on the track. Yeah, yeah About four five niggas we're gonna listen to doing that them dark days And he one of them been holding it down since he came out man Nothing other than the legendary life genie So that's all we've been bringing through here man is real life get only just just to tell That they play in a part in the part that we play The sounds in the music that got us through the times where we didn't know that that we was going through them times That shit that's gonna live with you forever life lessons. That's why his name life genies crazy Full circle speaking of which Niggas that can't man I don't smoke for me on this. It's ain't about you. It ain't about me. It's bigger than you You don't smoke no man like welcome to the trap Yeah, man, you can't smoke Yeah, man, you can't smoke burn you smoke a lot No smoke man, you know people automatically assume you smoke cuz you got a raspy voice. I used to smoke That's where I got the rest. Why I got them stop for didn't have no voice period. Wow They ain't no singer. I don't need no voice Ah So that really is about you can smoke your throat out of you smoke you probably came but in prison like they give you this shit They don't give you like real cigarettes. It's just like that tobacco loose tobacco. Yeah, no filter. No nothing Just raw right to give you some papers and they'd be like here you go So you know fuck my setup off of that a little bit, you know, I am Mm-hmm. How was it how long you were smoking those in there? Silly ask question Jack Man fuck you man time. I think I want to remember that 11 years Yeah, but you're bringing it up again. They don't know They need to come up. Oh catch them up. This is not this is gonna this lean somewhere watch it watch how we bring you back Towards the middle. I'm a little boy. I forgot you that nigga. Yeah, come on man. Yeah, so 11 years Smoking the open tobacco, right? Like when you say open tobacco with no filters on there and whatnot is all they You they actually constructed the cigarettes themselves. You got to roll it yourself No, they just throw you a pack of bugler like when you first come in the joint They gave you a pack of this is where I'm from they give you a pack of bill with for free Hmm, I think they just really do that shit to get niggas addicted to it or whatever, you know timeout But then uh, you know, then you start buying the joint, but it's loose tobacco basically Now what is the music even started man? We're like is that before prison or after prison or during you started singing this shit? Oh That was like a child man Like I had a singing family like my uncle Keith Dodson and them catch man, you know They was running around Keith actually a legend in Ohio man, and um, you know, it's kind of to the Toledo Ohio Toledo Okay, that's why I'm for camping shout out to Toledo, bro. Yeah I'm talking about even before I was on TV, bro I was selling out shows and like fucking Toledo and dating and they show much love over there, man Yeah, they ain't got shit down there. So, you know, they they can relate to everything, you know, you got a funny ball You say what funny ball comedy club? Well, I mean like nigga, you know, I mean you'd have been through that like niggas Knuckles in the dirt down here. Yeah Yeah We fucked with it dog So ever since she was a little boy singing and and Keith taught you how to sing Nah, he just had the influence. Yeah, I used to watch them cats I mean he was the only one I used to watch you did I had cousins that sang my mama and them He'd be used to sing a little bit Yeah, it got in the gospel choirs No, I like my mom's like she just had a lot of nigga troubles like so, you know, you'd be in that Asperd and Simpson and that Get yourself together music. Okay Got you. Yeah. So, you know, I heard them joints, man, and they need a baker at Asperd and Simpson No catch like that. Hmm. So it's more so self-talk and everything you've found that you had a talent and Start developing it yourself Yeah, I guess you can say that I guess you can say that I can't take credit for nothing though Like it was already there what it's gonna be. It already is The window become a serious thing to what you like. Hey, you know what? I think this is what I want to do with my life That happened in prison, you know, because you know, of course I started all just like writing just the past time Cuz I had a lot of time that 11 years that time, you know, so I just really was doing it the past time but then You know, like I was telling you earlier like niggas start coming around telling me, you know They love Situations and they will give me packs of cigarettes to write songs about these situations and passed on today You know, they old ladies or whatever. I'm probably was hits like a motherfucker now Somebody sitting at home with your hits in a shoebox They got a lot of records that I just you know, I record on tapes in them out You did and then when I just saw like I go out on the yard And you know niggas gonna get an hour on the yard, but it'd be like a nigga be out there around me Like hey do this joint do this record. I'm like Money off this shit, you know, yeah So that's just kind of popped off man word work Hey, I ain't never heard you talk about this before life But I don't see in a couple of interviews, but I know I probably I ain't seen everything so I probably missed it Shit like it ain't really niggas business like that. Thank you got you got you Yeah, I can dig it cuz you tell the niggas something like that and the nigga don't never want to get off of it Like I you know, you know interviews a start off So you did that's some amount of time in prison goddamn So on your seventh year Who were you mentally, how are you did you wear your muscular when you came up? That's why I really don't do like interviews and shit like that Because I get irritated like you did Yeah, I can dig it. I just thought you know do one of the first album when you talk about That's how long you had did and you come out and you do the Apollo like Coming back though seeing how everything had done changed since you left me. How was you how was you like taking that shit? Fascinated by It was a couple fascinations that I had but really just like like Honestly when I first came home, I came to Atlanta right because I did like a little demo And so I was coming through the mall and and I was kind of off my game a little bit I still had my slope flat top So You know, I put up on a little chick like damn like your hair is pretty you dig on I'm saying and I was already like goddamn Everybody got long hair Everybody must got some like treatments and shit that everybody here was going long and then she caught an attitude And I guess she thought I was making fun of her because she had a weave But I ain't no shit about no weaves though. So you came home and just thought everybody had long pretty as that Everybody got some treatments Fucking didn't know, you know, but yeah, you know, that was probably the basement part And um shit other than the cars being real aerodynamic by the time you get home Yeah, nobody's down in change. I wouldn't even cross the street, bro. Carby. Wait on the street. So like he going fast I ain't even gonna cross the street, bro But yeah, you know how to demo shit turn out It was love man, like, you know, um Actually, it came home went straight to the studio all the shit that was on my mind I kind of got it off my chest when it did the Apollo As soon as I came home and yeah, you want like five times, right? Yeah one five times on the Apollo in a row You already know what it is man. They don't know yet. You ain't telling me Shreveport, Louisiana. Oh, it's going crazy. Thursday, December 8th, 2022 at the Shreveport Municipal Memorial Auditorium, that's a lot of names Unfinished business baby. That's why we got unfinished business in Shreveport, Louisiana. So get your ticket Shreveport We coming through December 8th Shreveport Municipal Memorial Auditorium That's probably where all y'all graduated from high school there, but we coming and we gonna turn that bitch into a party So make sure you get your tickets December 8th Shreveport, Louisiana. Let's get ready to get on that You get the tickets at the 85s out show.com. That's what you get the tickets at So make sure you go get them right now if you're in Shreveport or surrounding areas. Yeah I don't know what if you live in Louisiana. If you live in Louisiana. You need to come see us. If you live in Arkansas Well, if you live in Dallas, okay, if you live in California Shit, if you don't even live if you just around that motherfucker come see the show cuz we gonna be there Shreveport, Louisiana Shreveport Municipal Memorial Auditorium Your car nice you especially if you got a Tesla stretch the Tesla shit We'll see you there Shreveport, Louisiana 85s out show I'm gonna get your tickets. I'm about to hit it. Oh shit Also, there was your game plan even going in and how you even captivated a crowd like that because it ain't no That's a tough ass fucking great especially the time you went there ain't tougher than prison. You're right now that You fucking right In the church Be singing a goddamn So that got song about Jesus Christ Just like regular hymns and shit man, they will boo you off a regular hymn Jesus love me You ain't even posing that song good. I thought everybody who sung in church would just welcome No, I got kicked out of church before So that's what that the song number 10 off the verse album come from No, she is 17 days. No, that song come because this lady in church told me that I was using my voice For worldly shit like basically like I was evil because I was singing about worldly stuff So that's what that joint came from but I heard a captain of voices, bro. I don't know man, you know in The joint man, you know them them little people with their badges on their everybody somebody, you know You know cast there was never nothing on the street. You put a badge on them. They did shit In the ones yeah But I got kicked out of church here in Atlanta before in Atlanta. Yeah, bro Right before I went to prison the second time this shit by this shit. I can't make this shit up, bro I'm about to do some shit But I say let me take my ass to church. I took my two little boys, too and we go because I was just driving thinking and On the radio, they was like this church blah blah blah. God says come as you are. I'm like shit That's all I needed to hear. I came as I am like they Get get to the church get in there sitting a little pews and shit And all the sudden I guess the church security Church bouncer or whatever, you know, then they get you come up. He like yo The church had a bouncy. Oh Yeah, I guess he was a deacon. He was a new birth. I don't even remember the name But a dual came and he was like you can't wear no hat in church And I like Well the commercial on the radio said it come as you was you know, I'm saying and I had a hat on when he said He was like nah, he's like you got to leave And I was like I got I say I say bro you really gonna kick me out of church I said I got my two kids with me, too Like you won't kick me out of church and then they left he come back with two more security bouncers And they escorted me out the church Yeah, you know We're Shit was weird You ain't never like you know, you ain't never like think about this situation said, you know what I should have took my hat off That's why I'm in prison. Nope That ain't how she did do it. Hey, I know we sometimes you when you be sitting down Looking for some of the blame is on me. What the fuck did I do? What? Yeah, I don't play games like that and by then that was the second time I went to prayer or the third time Damn, I forget one of the mother times, but I had already been before so I don't I don't do that Be I jump right back in the character. You know, so I don't do that blame. I should have did this Right ain't gonna help you know, you're now Mm-hmm Every time you got out to you always got right back on it like you ain't never left Yeah, you don't got a choice with that either. You know, I'm saying I got kids out here to feed bro. I'm gonna get it like I'm a You know, how does the deal happen after Apollo? like Who contacted you? So I sang on Apollo or whatever and then the one actually do that that Did the Apollo he had been getting contacted by labels and all this shit, but he was trying to give me the sign with him So he would never for the information. So then so much time had elapsed He wind up, you know, he threw the alley to one of my niggas became my nigga at the time And just told him that if he gets a bread to break bread with him or whatever So my dude come on board and he introduced me to um Dave McPherson as Sony records Right and then Dave wanted to sign me Then the other nigga that I had met before that He called Sony records and told Sony records that I was already in a contract with him And shit was never in the car. He's just trying to blow the deal. So I was signed. It'd be a lot of shit going on, bro Oh, yeah, no, I've seen it. Yeah, but needless to say, you know I went on and uh worked it outside with Sony and you you wrote the whole lab Yeah, yeah Bruh, that's Amen, the first time I knew that you was you was writing all your shit. This is what I had accepted it But it's definitely a pattern in your music to where you know, that's life Violence You it's consistent the way I know you ain't working with we don't seem like you're working with different niggas to you know Construct certain songs, you know, I know you know ideas and inspirations come here and there But when you had came on while and now dog and we'll be doing a arm beef and arm beef and Diverse that you wrote Like right did and there was just so fucking out of this world and you know over the top Yeah, they cut part of that too But that was one of the best experiences that I really had on a while and now You know so many black people that was cool He took us like, you know, I come from that shit be violent, bro Like niggas ain't cracking on each other or having fun with each other like that Yeah, so when I saw that shit, you know, I just was like damn boy Like this it would be cool. They could relax for a moment. You know, yeah That's why it'd be fun to do that shit because like you said, it's so many different people who was all that person where they from Man, you'll be you'll be believing that the world is a whole different place And if you don't experience different parts of it, right? But the crazy thing about traveling the world is you just really want to go to the pause that you like So wherever you end up, you're just gonna find like you said, if you're a hood motherfucker You want to go where the hood is or if you're a sightseeing mother you want to see some sights It's like everybody just different some motherfuckers don't want to do nothing but find the good-ass food And you know, I mean eat everything they can eat before they leave some people want to shop, but Pretty much the same shit everywhere Yeah Just good to see it though because it's good. It's just dope to see how people do shit everywhere else But you know what also, you know For lack of a better word, you'll be fearing a lot of shit just because you never been exposed to whether it's people circumstances You don't know how they do right right? So you need to expose yourself to it If only so that you can express to your kids that this ain't what you think it is Yeah, just to open your mind to some different possibilities of what could like you know, like I say you just need to see shit done That's out of the ordinary to right because every white person ain't racist every black person ain't hood and every white person ain't even white You don't never know till you fucking talk to him, right? Yeah, man, so you know a damn show ain't you got to give life to benefit of the doubt man bottom line You just might like some shit you ain't never did I even thought about doing you don't know what the fuck you like Yeah, you had 100% go over there and do some shit, man, especially you Jack You still got a lot of living in there 100% now. I feel exact same way. Yeah We're taking our show on the road man, we're going in a national with it next year fuck it Next time it get hot. We probably be in Brazil or somewhere man, South Africa just posted up I love to shoot a whole podcast, you know with some beautiful ass scenery in the background, bro I don't want to sound ignorant, but it would be dope as hell if I was on like some kind of balcony And it was like an over-the-shoulder like you can see some elephants and shit in the distance Wait till I get this fucking deal I got some we're going to this big-ass ranch in Texas They're gonna be cooking barbecue and shit behind us by the time we get through the shit gonna be ready Just be doing it big bro. Good news. I like peace. Yeah Yeah, I'm glad you drink you dreaming way bigger than I'm dreaming for myself That's what I'm here for Jack. I'm the vision. I got it. I got it and I need vision. That's what I'm saying I got this Jack if you aim so low You're gonna end up hitting the ground That's confusions or that's no that's me Don't fucking aim low jack. We ain't happy if you ask for some bullshit You're gonna get worse than that. We asked for the most Outlandish shit. So even if they can't give it to us, they gotta compensate us with some shit better than we even wanted What you think about the Elon Musk's them I don't think about that That's exactly what I'm saying jack. Don't get distracted by shit. You ain't got nothing to do with I don't talk about going to the moon That's they shit. They been going I gotta intervene right there. God damn it. Listen, whether they're going or not ain't no niggas man But listen, you don't know If don't let them white folks get to the moon before Black folks do because they're gonna have black folks as slaves up there and you ain't gonna know nothing Long as it's up there and I ain't up there Hey, they fucking got us locked. They got us fucked up all over. These don't stand a chance on the moon Especially you in the first hundred Hell yeah, they threw the balls and the shit out of here Hey, buddy, you think you can help us out alone in the spaceship? We really appreciate it. Hey This time i'm not asking get your ass up and help us Every day on that motherfucker gonna get worse and worse Get up dark You ain't lying on plain cotton on the moon and the aliens ain't saying shit. They're acting like they don't see it They Mining they listen, I do not think that you like I really I I really feel like man, especially when they took nasa off of it and they privatized Uh space travel just period And they just talking about media rights and there's so much money in that shit ain't as far away as they say it is They just going up there and coming back for the weekend and shit Bro, you know it's already uh some shit on this way to mars a non-return trip with mars already That's because that shit ain't as far as they said that's what they're chilling in what you mean non-return That it's a one-way trip people already signed up for a one-way trip to mars not coming back Listen, you can leave them on mars Not well, you can't they don't want no They don't want black people on that shit. Yeah It's motherfuckers living on every planet, but they don't want you to know that type of shit Yeah, it's it's it's a lot going on How is this a planet they don't shit live on It shouldn't your common sense should be common. That means shit. You should know Why the fuck would they tell you about some other planets? Why would it be a planet if don't nothing live on it? What you think on there just dirt That's a you making a good point right now. It's a planet nigga. They only show you the shit That's just like if the motherfucking show earth and they just showed the part with the water They probably got them people out there thinking don't nobody live on this motherfucker Get the fuck out of here. That's just true. They're gonna earth. It ain't number water. Don't go on that motherfucker You do realize that whatever that they show us as far as the planets is concerned It's always edited Like you don't get it like you ain't gonna never get a satellite footage straight from the satellite in real time Yeah, you're not afraid to get it and they gonna they're gonna edit it That's it. They might be doing us a favor though. You might not want to know what the fuck is outside of this shit Hmm Listen, we probably fucking they the real truth is we probably just some smart ass ass Y'all That's why they don't talk to us. We too stupid to understand. What the fuck they super intelligent. Y'all Fucking my head up, man. Why the fuck would they want to talk to us? We can't even talk to each other They like the motherfuckers too dumb. We can't go down there and show them how to get up here They bring that racism shit on here Call phone us bring some of that unseasoned ass chicken is over No, no calls the border and you already know what it is man. What's that time? I'm gonna be home. Yeah. Hey, man White 28 29. Where we at? What? ATL the gateway center arena at college park Call it park Atlanta. You know, they was Call it park We're gonna get all this we're gonna get all that we're gonna discuss all that we're gonna discuss What's real Atlanta and what's you know, you know, you know, all that I can't wait to tell a nigga way from Yeah, you know returning to get old legends the unfinished business to be back in the eight 85southshow.com. That's www.85southshow.com right now Atlanta We are coming December 28th and 29th is after christmas. You can wear all your new shit your gifts going out with a bang going out with a bang We're bringing right where it all began, you know, I mean from Smith's old box to the gateway center arena at college Park, so make sure you get your ticket and Thursday and Thursday not playing Whole city gonna be all work them days anyway, because it's almost new year. So, you know how you say, you know Come on see spend that christmas money nigga. You already know get it at the envelope Out the car buy a ticket buy a ticket. No cap. That's what you get the app to and two days We doing two days. So if you miss the first day you ain't gonna miss the second one, right? Oh, you're gonna hear about Ghetto legendary kind of paul Hello everybody My name is carlos miller and I just came to spread a little Black love because I hope you having a good day because this is a good day sent That's black love since I love you so much. 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That's probably exactly what it is probably so nasty and full of germs and worms They don't want nothing to do with that little nasty That's all my old lady this if if it was aliens and aliens all they would have to go off for us Is by the shit this on tv imagine what they would think of us bro. Check this out, right? This is how this house stupid. They think you got serious You saw that you mean to tell us the aliens and travel through all these galaxies all these planets and time spaces and black holes Get the holes or black holes and get the earth And crash in the fucking desert why ain't shit out there? Right right and run into absolutely nothing and just crash they didn't travel over all these goddamn galaxies and just wreck on earth Yeah That's don't even make sense So you're saying what that that is full of shit That the whole concept of aliens is full of shit or that they crash I'm telling they out there. They just smarter than us. That's why they don't want to talk to us The same reason we ain't figured out how to talk to the animals here. That's probably how they look at it Like we're just too stupid to communicate with They know it They know we ain't gonna be able to understand this shit Monkey pops probably came from aliens on but this how dumb we are We are looking for some motherfuckers who are smarter than us Don't you think they already found us? They found us before we even knew to look for them Super intelligent beings They know exactly what this shit is. That's what we call them till we assume that they super intelligent What have they done this for? And they spaceships always look dopest for that's that might be our shit You on to something bro. I ain't never even thought of this Why don't they bring they nice shit to our shit? I don't that's what it is. That's what it is. That's what the fuck going on. You got them here that thing you got them No, he can't smoke man. No, yeah because he got to focus on what the fuck he doing. He already run into shit What I was smoking right definitely can't have any dui I'll be double you or you are Damn, I just thought about it du I Hey man, welcome back to the 85th time Bro, give us the keys to writing the good-ass love song What's the elements? I don't write many love songs like most of my shit be situational but not situation and be a little love sprinkled in there Right, right, but it don't it don't never be like I love you kind of shit like that's it. It'd be I love you But yeah, right, okay Through your flaws and shit, right So, what's the elements to writing just a good song then? From your perspective Personally think you got to go through some good shit You know I'm saying I think that's the first thing you didn't like some shit or you were super happy with it or It was probably but it was a An experience that you're always going to remember. Yeah, so then you know you translate it Sometimes it don't even come right away. Sometimes it'd be a couple years later once you understand it So I think that's the next versus going through it and then it's understanding what you went through And then I just think I'm having a good vocabulary You dig and then you write it all down on paper with the melody and everything and then you got to You got to make sure that At the end of you conveyed that whole message in that little small amount of time. Yeah, you know You heard that jack I just heard it man and he ate albums in to ate albums in I I definitely feel this way But do you feel this way that you underrated as a writer as a vocalist As a musician Now I don't anything that's even my place to say if i'm underrated or not because some people I'm gonna be underrated to other people. I'm gonna be overrated, you know And I feel like I don't give no nigga that kind of power over me and that he could do nothing to me You know, I'm saying the only reason why I ain't Exactly where I'm supposed to be or want to be is just because I haven't manifested yet, you know You still trying to figure out exactly what you want to be. Is that what you're trying to tell me? No, no, I don't think that I'm trying to figure out exactly what it is that I want to be I'm trying to figure out exactly what it is that I don't want to be Because you make a motherfucking mistake thinking that you want some shit And then you'll get that shit and that said it'd be the worst like Uh, uh addict think he really wants some money Then he'd get that money and that'd be the very thing that led to him over there. Yeah So, yeah You got to be careful what you ask for very selective in your word choice jack 100 I like that Who are some of the people that inspire you to as far as writers go like who you think is dope Writers Yeah, right writers writer writer singer arranges like for instance, baby face Yeah dope you were the whole um What they call them things before movies the what they for not the score but the the take the camera the soundtrack Yeah, that was what a whole song truck for weight took there. Was it way next? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think he dope Um, I think lino richie is a dope writer man. Yeah, he is, you know, because For me one of the hardest things to do is to convey a message super super simple That's one of the hardest thing to do man, you know, but he do it well, you know Lino richie Lino richie hidden gem Hello And he the only nigga that maintained a fro that long. I don't think nobody with the shag in the back It had a it had like a fro top in a shag back Who else who else when you got money like lino richie though, you could do with the fuck you want to do it again When you got that lino richie paper Man, your shit supposed to look like a scientist and lino this is lino Lino out of a lack of a better word. Hope he don't get upset, but this is how I describe me lino a real nigga too, man Yeah, of course. His name is lino. I did that nigga I didn't even ever notice that that nigga named lino that nigga named lino, bro I'm telling you bro a nigga's named lino. They about their life. Yeah, and they can play football I did this thing with him. Uh, I forget what it was. We did we did this song easy though, right? And lino was like, oh, you know, I listen to your stuff. I like your stuff He's like, you know, maybe you should do this or you know, you should do that or whatever whatever But he's like, here go my number like call me if ever you need me or run something by me or whatever And you get that shit a lot like I got that shit from a lot of niggas, you know, I'm saying So I wanted to just test you and like a couple weeks later. I just called and he answered the phone I'm like that. Hello, this is lino You know answer the phone like that. I answer the phone, bro. Hello It's me You're looking for No, but bro really eyes of the phone I am, you know, chop it in. Yeah, you know, you know All life, hello Thought she was a bill collector People playing on my phone Yeah, you gotta follow up man, that's one part of the industry though is to follow up some people got a mean follow-up game Did you did you did you actually have something to say to him? Or you're like, man, I just want to see if you were gonna goddamn answer the phone. I didn't say that You know, that was reason, but I didn't want to say that So I made some small talk man. I kept it moving man. Word word You know, did y'all ever end up doing some music together? Never did no music together I don't like by them folks like, you know, cast a gig in a number I ain't gonna never call you and even if you sincere with me, I don't like asking cats for shit Hey man, do you understand? You ain't been through something No, people that's that's the thing about it though, man. It'd be standoff. It's like that. You think you bother in them They won't call you because they think that they bother in you. So the work ain't gonna happen, man Somebody gotta be the bridge. Everybody tell me at all times like bro, you got so many people that fuck with you But I always just feel like like You don't know man Well, I had like just a bad situation one time But I just was like, yo, I ain't never doing that no more You don't even gotta say but I guarantee you that the person that that did it that it happened with That's probably one of them people that don't nobody like for real No, I bet it's a person that everybody like no on the outside, but I'm saying in the industry. They probably get the same amount of dislike Some people just assholes and everybody know who they are. Yeah, that's true. You know who the assholes are. Yeah And then sometimes in the struggle you can when he like, oh, you ain't been a asshole today Sometimes the motherfuckers are sitting sitting there in love. Sometimes the motherfuckers don't eat you But you know what? You know, I don't be like I'm just dwelling negative, but it's some cool. My fucker too. It's some cool Real motherfuckers Eric Abadu Like she's a cool motherfucker Let me tell you what she did one time. I tell this to him She they was doing this tour. It was her Common and um, and they needed somebody else for the tour. So the dude called me He was like, yo, you want to go on this tour with Erica. I'm like, hell, yeah I'm gonna go on this tour, right? So he's like cool. He's selling us the contracts all of this So he called like a week or two later. He was like, yo, you got uh, you got some beef with Eric Abadu I'm like, ah, shit. Like that's that's that's the homie. Like, you know what I'm saying? She was like Well, she don't want you to go on this tour, right? I'm like, she don't want me to go on the tour. He was like, yeah She said that I guess y'all had some bad blood or something that happened. I was like, well, shit I I don't really remember that shit. I was like, but cool cool cool. You know, I keep it moving But you know, I know her you did what I'm saying? So I called her and I'm like, yo I'm like, uh, you know, uh Me you are a thing cool. Like, you know, because you know, I sometimes a nigga A spread a rumor or something. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, you know, I just wanted to make she's like, no Why what's up life? I was like, nah, cuz you know the dude said that, you know, you didn't want me to go on the tour She said, well, hold on wait back up. She said he told you that I said That I didn't want you to go on the tour And she was like life if I didn't want you to go on the tour I would have told you that I didn't want you to go on the tour. I wouldn't have told him She was like, what's his name? Hold on Caught him on the three way It was like, don't say that was like, yo, uh, so this just told me that you said about like this thing on the phone Like I never said that Right I was saying that so Hung up the phone fast, but that ain't just the cool shit Like so then she was like, you know, you're all right You need to go on this tour because I could put you on this tour and I just was like Nah, and I needed to go on the tour at that time too, but I was just like Nah, it was just cool as fuck that she would have looked out for the homie like this on some real n***a shit, man So applause for that Like why didn't you go what did your pride stop you from going on to I don't think it was pride but I just felt like They was going at a different route because she even told me He must have took what she said the wrong way or something and lied because she was like She just wanted it to be kind of a more hip-hop tour and my r&b. Shit was more like some soul shit You know what I'm saying? Got it. Got it. So I didn't want to be selfish and interfere with her vision. So I was like, no I'm good, you know Mm-hmm. Yeah, that was very selfless. That's just how shit happens though. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah That's the industry type shit That uh You remember Carlos was like that too Like what like he don't believe a lot of this shit real out here I've seen it. He don't trust motherfuckers. It ain't real, man Oh, this shit is man. This is I call it the theater. It's the stage n***a still on stage Even when they ain't on stage they on stage you know Hey, I remember um When you did the song freeze with ll koo jay and I'm saying to myself God this nigga getting his just motherfucking dude It's nigga working with ll koo jay who likes to cross over shit to me. Yeah, that was they they didn't promote that album right there That was a crazy ass album by now. That's the gold album, right? Uh, was it the gold album? I think it's off the gold album. Yeah Man, you're really on your shit today, man. I'm proud of you. Yeah, yeah, man, you know l l another cool dude, man Super cool another cool dude Did everything he said he was gonna do, you know, even ask me did I want a sex scene in the video? Are you I know you did the sex scene right? No, hell no Hey, what's up, man? I didn't know you were right there man. It's your boy jack thriller aka Luke eyewalker aka the visionary. It's going down in the major way, man. That's right I'm finally here 85 south 85 south 85 south. We're talking about my new show new jack thriller city, man I got some of all my famous friends coming through from music soul child rl drew hill delicious Um, it is without an amazing way, man, and I need you to tune in not now, but right now to channel 85 Make sure you subscribe to new jack thriller city on youtube new jack thriller city on youtube I'm telling you it's gonna be crazy entertaining from one to done. I'm even giving out relationship advice So if you need relationship advice, man, make sure you DM me at jack thriller New jack thriller city new jack thriller city live on channel 85 Hey, do I have something in mind y'all go to commercial don't kiss them hoes in the mouth unless you got to let's go Ah, man, I just wasn't you know, sometimes niggas is being being cool And I don't be wanting to take advantage of a nigga coolness man. Yeah, he ain't doing no sex thing Why you want to get me a goddamn sex scene? You say sounds like nah, bro. I'm straight I don't know me Why you get him started I want to do a sex scene right now. Oh, no, we don't want to see that shit bro Now on this platform He said not this wife It's a family show, bro. I can dig it. I can dig it. Hey, I met a little cool j And um, he was like man, you cool in the motherfucker man. I had ditched you on um On my last album and everything but not that I've met you. I just met you. I'm not gonna even put the song out And that was him being cool with me and I was like, no nigga put the song out. I want nigga I need that shit. That's me. What the fuck was he dancing you about I have no idea He wouldn't let me hear it or none of that shit. He must have really went in on me I wouldn't have took it no type of way though No, I did He's a fucking jack, man. Hey, man Hey, that's not like when the nigga be loud when he use some kind of words when he say shit like no idea It really happened. It really happened. Jack you uh, you you stay in some rap beef, man You're a very controversial figure Man, I really lived it man. I really lived it um It was just recently this has been uh, uh, this has been the talk of the year The Jeffrey Dahmer series. Oh, there we go on Netflix You had put out the uh, you didn't let everybody know you you met Jeffrey Dahmer when you were locked up Let me guess you had no idea you was gonna ask me this I had no idea Right, right. Yeah. Yeah, man. Like but I I wanted I actually wanted to call you. I didn't even know I was gonna see you Right, right. This was crazy. I mean, you know, man I just be you know I shouldn't even really be taking the fence because I look at like that that social media stuff as the mob You can't even take what they say good or bad You really just gotta just put forth your purpose and then step back and see do shit catch on fire No, they're gonna say this shit either way right no matter what so I was really just you know, I saw it You know, I don't watch no negative shit on tv though. I don't I don't do that to my brain, man Like I don't do shit to my body. I don't do that shit to my brain either So, you know, my old lady just happened to be watching it and and it just flashed back to me and I remember when I met the Dude, I remember what happened had never even thought about it. Like that just jogged that memory, right? And um, just mentioned it, you know, I'm saying because I thought you know My fans will get a kick out of it and then they just calling cap and all this different stuff But they couldn't have never been they could have never been the prison before bro because that's exactly how that Shit go, you know Somebody got to be locked up with him, right? Right, so every nigga that said he locked up with him is lying, man, right? You know, but I don't even you know now since talking to you I don't even really think that they thought it was cap so much as you know Cats was wondering why did I speak on it and that bring me to a whole another social media thing Like I could say what the fuck I want to say that's real on my shit You know what I'm saying and it's so easy for you to block my page or block me or whatever, bro Like I don't let my life for nobody, bro. I let my shit for me You know and don't now what the niggas say No, nigga, what he think or whatever bro that don't affect me. That's it. I don't I don't fear you niggas Mentally, physically, socially, economically, spiritually none of that shit, bro Niggas just don't scare me like that. You know Well that nigga can kind of that scare you a little bit just watching them walking around prison Like I never even knew who the nigga was like that like when he came in, right? Like I say they don't announce, you know, we got a mass serial killer coming through whatever Ass and all that shit That's what he was doing He could have asses all kind of nipples You know, he came in, you know, that was at a time where you know, you know, I was in the hole They brought him to the hole because jail is overcrowded bro. Like, you know what I'm saying It ain't enough room in jail nigga. They got Look at they got Just two man cells with six people in them. They put mats on the floor Pow like that's how they do bro. So when the high-profile cat come in They don't know where to place him because some niggas gonna be just looking to get a rep trying to kill old jeffrey Like you dig what I'm saying So they put them in the hole and I just happened to be in the hole And you know, I was you know, I sang so niggas would say sing this thing that I would just You didn't sing for jeffrey bro. He asked me to sing pretty brown eyes. You did and I was singing so shit Man, you know what I'm saying, you think that's his favorite song. That was his favorite meal Condition pretty brown And I sure would like some pretty brown eyes Like her boy He sang that for me. Holy shit Like I don't like, you know, you I don't I don't know what niggas do like you ain't never you ain't never been to potential, right? No, no, no. You don't ask no niggas what you in there for Right You're asking nigga, how much time you're doing but you ain't gonna be like what you in there for He's gonna look at you like what you the fed you're trying to connect me to some other cases and some shit, man niggas don't talk like that, bro And I didn't even think nothing of it. Like, you know, he was there for a split second and then, you know You wake up one morning and he gone you know Hmm, but then when you find out what he did do what you like, oh shit Niggas could ain't me. I don't even remember like that's that's how trivial the shit was to me He's a white boy in prison. He ain't me knowing who he was. I ain't gonna take no time off my jacket You know what I'm saying? So I really don't give a fuck. It was probably 95% of the population I just don't give a fuck about I didn't remember their names after I walked through the door, bro I was I was just there. My family wasn't there. They went on my goddamn kids and shit man Was you there when he got killed? He was there a whole another joint. I probably was in prison when he got killed, but Let me tell you this shit again my nigga. I don't remember because I don't give a fuck about like You know, that's they shit. That's them white folk shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? They because you kind of just get numb to shit like that and Yeah, I man. I was next to niggas that one to get Cut out his white pussy and put it in the refrigerator Hey, so how how I'm gonna be tripped out about a white boy who Cut out dicks and put them in the refrigerator. I don't know what he did man. He's like damn So for me like bro, I didn't Bro, I'm too. I'm too busy worried about the shank fight Niggas is doing all of that in prison Man, no, there's this jay. You know where they put these motherfuckers at man, bro I don't you know what I think is for that, bro that you're telling me about this right now That's just a hell of a fucking coincidence. It's a coincidence But behind me other serial killers you think I was in jail with it just didn't even know That's a good question. How many city rapists and oh kind of shit that you just don't know man That's a better question Because I don't I never focused on all of that bro like that. I focused on me Yeah, right. I'm shit. I'm trying to make sure I ain't next Yeah, yeah, yeah How you get through day to day like count down to 11 years though, like I didn't count down You wouldn't like writing chicken and dog and then doing that Right You see he a step behind and I appreciate your patience with him No, but seriously like so, you know again like you really gotta ask yourself Niggas was shook because I said I was in there with Jeffrey Dahmer and niggas was talking about always to cancel life Because he said he was locked up with him Then you got them folks over at netflix made a whole fucking Many series about the man made millions and millions of dollars but you ain't boy cutting them You they they made so much money, you know boy catch you Just because you were locked up with them. Well, actually, I read one person that said that but that was enough. God damn Damn But this this these folks weird bro, like I can't invest no time into that shit You know Social media is a very strange place these days It's dangerous man, and it gets more dangerous. Look at Kanye niggas don't even want to touch that Bruh, it makes me very sad. It did the whole situation you know, what's happening to To my dog, man I don't got no whole bunch of sponsorships at D this and and fucking Louis Vuitton or none of that shit So I could say whatever I want to say niggas is dead ass wrong for celebrating The the demise of this man Well, I was that to a part. Yeah, like what what where where and then you ask yourself, where's the prize For me being happy for this man, you know Demise and where's the prize? What prize is that? You know prize, man. He didn't even give you a goddamn prize That's how I feel. I feel like that shit itself inflicted and he did it to himself He knew what the fuck he was dealing with Man, I don't know. I don't think he knew. Yes, the fuck he did He knew what he was dealing with with that woman. He knew what he was dealing with with them people He knew what he was dealing with with all the shit that he mad about He knew what the fuck he was doing. So you telling me he knew he couldn't go on there If he did and say that shit about them people them people took their money back the same You don't get that much money from a month and then go say fuck. You can't do that You should have said fuck him before you took the money if you felt like that When the people was like wait a goddamn minute All the money ain't go through man. Give us a goddamn money man. She But they can do that then. That's what I'm saying. He's not the first one. That's what happened when you do that shit But you leave that white lady out of there though. She ain't having anything to do with this You're crazy as a mother right there She had everything to do with Yeah, I was having for him on that one that white little white girl got that nigga trippin man And this shit is deader, bro. It's deader. This shit is deader. I'm not about to keep tuning in to this shit I'm I'm all this way. I'm getting off it I'll never celebrate the downfall of a black man, but I don't have to I don't have to agree with him either Right, right, and I'm not gonna put no energy into it good or bad I don't give a fuck these people got all the money in the world. There's a billion there. I can I can't get in there motherfucker Don't nobody want to get my broke ass to pay me back what they being I ain't never I'm gonna shut the fuck up. I ain't never seen billionaires getting to it before Somebody about to get slapped with some money Shut the fuck up But let me tell you why it concerned me. It ain't it ain't about Kanye It's not about the jewish community. It's not about the black community I'm concerned with it because The idea that People can use their powers to not just kill you no more because you remember like back in day They could lynch you and it was over with and it's cool. They still can Hello, Giko being here again. January 6th through the 8th 2023. We pushing this shit out You ain't got no excuse not to know I'm coming improv in tempe, Arizona I'd be there for five shows So get your tickets and I ain't even gonna read this belong because this shit in january So you got plenty of time to get your tickets. All right, so, you know, I know it's gonna be a round Tax time you're gonna be getting your w2. So think about me when you start to think about what you're gonna spend that money on January 6th through the 8th 2023 I will be there. Hey, what's up your man? Carlos Miller sunday january the 15th We will be at the seminal hard rock casino for the miami comedy festival in miami florida Me some more bruce bruce core hulkham la velcro for dc young flag tony rock Ryan davis and mark curry. Make sure you grab those tickets But just because he said that you see it and it's still gonna be there. I ain't cutting my shit. That's right January 3rd legs of niggas in the background. Look and say something nigga. What you got to say I see you back there dirty hoodie ass nigga say something Say something I'm on all you niggas any niggas say these niggas walk around the corner to see my shit. Fuck all these niggas. You see it Nigga, fuck you niggas. You got on a genie cap nigga with nothing up under nigga cash and spills Yeah, fuck all these niggas january 13th 2023 niggas is going down niggas. Fuck it. I'm keeping my shit off Just for these niggas. Let's read the rest up January 14th. She gonna be back again MGM center stage in no field in cleven, ohio. I'd be there. That's right. Me and my ball spot. Fuck these niggas neck January 20th through the 22nd 2023 funny bonnet, Virginia beach five shows right there. You see it. All right neck Fuck these niggas still they still looking at me january 27th through the 29th I'd be at the improv in ontario, california for five shows. Yeah, nigga. I got work I ain't got no handle for it, but I got a job Right, they still can but now just imagine a niggas Could cut off your livelihood now because you have an opinion right or wrong That's crazy in that color. Yes. Come on. He's right. That's crazy. That's dangerous. They've been doing this shit forever, man Taking your money back. Yes Bro, yes, I don't I think on this level And I hate to say it, you know, it's almost as if You know black people did it to theyself like we started this thing um with r kelly Right the me too movement, right and that was the first time that really people then just came together Do a pile on like that to to power drive a nigga now It turned out that r kelly was guilty of this shit But before he was even found guilty of this she was already convicted. You see what i'm saying And I was in the public trail in the court of public opinion jack. So me as a black man right now, right? Yeah, I got White folks at me They got the police at me, right A lot of times black women get so applauded by anything that they do to a lot of the nigga discipline And I know I got black people trying to kill me too I got let's like a nigga just be having a world against him man as a black man. It's like tell me about It's the weirdest shit man. Yeah, it's the weirdest shit I don't know how the fuck we're gonna survive this, but we've been doing it this motherfucker alone. We're gonna figure it out Right. I'm right. He hates to see a nigga. I didn't be fearing for my babies, man Yeah, you know, but that's what we was talking about the last time colors What about the babies man growing up with these other crazy motherfuckers? How do we Protect our children man. How do we what do we have to equip them with the truth? We can't lie to them man. It's a perspective though that truth that truth is a I'm saying what they don't try to disguise what you know, they're really looking at don't fuck. They mind up like that Because look how many adults that we know I fucked up behind some shit that they can't erase Just by being manipulated not even nothing physical It's just like you knowing that you're growing up in the household and things ain't normal But as a you know as opposed to being told what's really going on You were manipulated into believing that This is normal. Then you went out in the world and saw that hey, this was fucked up. Now you got nobody to talk to about The shit that you've seen man just knowing that That shit has a lasting impact The truth can go a long way and that's with anybody So what's the truth? The real shit Don't give you give your kids a perspective of what's really going on outside Make sure that they know Because you don't want them finding out a lot of shit outside the house Because then they get the wrong information Start thinking that the wrong shit is right Get the wrong influences and end up in a fucked up situation that they can't come out of So would I be wrong to tell my kid amen after you leave this house today don't nobody give a fuck about you No, you that because that's real You don't a lot of people are realizing that that's why these videos and shit be so shocking And because that's the truth that was so unspoken that nobody believed that it existed You know, it's like you was talking about the lynching shit. Look how many videos of these police officers catching these Young black kids who don't know no better don't know what they rights are who don't know what the fuck to do in this situation they catching them and just doing them dirty because They don't they know that they don't know they know how to pick victims They know who would they go to these neighborhoods where they know that The poverty level these people can't afford to go to court to get no ticket or get no lawyer or even resist anything that they do over here They know where they can go be lawless They know who came forward to fight them back Because it's not about physically fighting back They know that the court is set up for you not to be able to even do shit if they do violate you It's definitely strategy, you know But I mean it's that's so much that that's it's so much that you know, I could say man, bro, like you know Nick is giving away the game for free now. Yeah, which is weird to me All right, they'll do it on the uh podcast He was just talking about that being a musician is the only game that you don't have to have something to get into You can just jump in and and then just start doing it You know, you could you could just buy a fruity loops beat pack or whatever make you a beat and throw it out there But you can't just go to your homeboy like yeah, he played for the for the new york net God damn it and you can't just go hey put me on and you go get on the team Or anything like that, but you got niggas online and and and and it's really To me it's the same shit as somebody dying and then you want to post all the videos of yourself with this person And you be trying to pass it off as his love. It's not love It's clout like you really want somebody to see like oh, he knew him like, you know, I'm saying or blah blah blah And then transfer that over till now Niggas is trying to tell you the game as far as getting money and shit like that. This is what you do with your llc That's what you do with your corporation and then these are the different tax loops It's like you don't got to pay nothing to get in bro and then those same tax loops that You trying to tell somebody to avoid or all this different not just shouldn't share information But when you tell people out loud, you know, you doing it for clout But then you don't think these white folks gonna shut down these loops once they hear that a black man Know and he's using it to become wealthy and then share and change the rules on us See the game But it's it's an old school saying but it's the fucking truth the game was meant to be sold not told But it's sold at a price So that if you really wanted it then you was willing to pay the price and that's your earning right right there You know what i'm saying you're earning right to earn. You know, I understand that but then Like right after it is also saying each one teach one and some people can't even afford to go buy the game Well, well well again There's no such thing as not being able to afford because I I got a guy to tell me anything that I want Anything that I want all I got to do is ask for it He don't tell me you got to go out here and strip for it and sell dope for it or do nothing else for it He tell me anything that I want all I got to do is ask for it. You know what I'm saying? So that's the beginning. You know what I'm saying and each one that teach one It don't mean that it's free You know what I'm saying because if I tell my kid something even though he got that information It wasn't free because I had to go to it. You know what I'm saying? I had to go through it So I blessed him with so that that's that's what I think they mean by each one teach one When you go through something in your life, it is for the furtherment of your family You did So it's not free but when it's free What do you do with it when when you get some shit for free? Yeah, you don't take care of it Nothing bro. You don't care nothing about it You know it's almost like it don't even belong to you But that's just me bro, you know, that's the world we live in there though, man One day one day one day jack No, man she Now you just wrote a song and you know, uh this week today you released on uh your your instagram by genocide And then you talked about pmb rock And um, you know, what what inspired this what what inspired you to like all right today is the day Yeah, I wasn't really talking about genocide, right? You know, uh I'm jogging I'm jogging and and I decided to release it today because I guess I was uh Restless like you know, I'm saying I just couldn't Hold it, you know, I'm saying especially since you know, this situation happened with the homie Take off. Yeah And yeah, it's just about like I'm one of them niggas man. I don't I ain't gonna tell nobody about their own business because I I sincerely believe that you don't never give advice to somebody unless they ask you for it So I keep my mouth shut But it's a lot of shit that I've been keeping my mouth shut and you know And it bothered me because I want to see niggas win I don't ever want to see nobody lose because I know loss ain't for you You they're gonna I'm saying winning is for you. That's it So the song is just about we because we be out here trying to impress so many people You know, like niggas that rob niggas Usually if they get that money what they gonna do go and try and buy a gold chain to impress some broad They don't want them anyway You know, then the broad is gonna pick the nigga that that she liked that ain't got shit You did a chicken go to a nigga that got some bread and trick that nigga out of bread And then take it back to the broke one like she robbing hood or some shit You did then you got chicks that Fucking go get all this shit done and say i'm doing this so I can feel better so I can feel better about me Come on, bro. Somebody gonna see you And you're only doing that shit because you want to impress somebody man and and and that impresses What what the one girl somebody stole a kidney and shit or yeah, that was crazy Or you get infections through your body like is that shit like come on, bro like I'm because one day You ain't gonna be able to get that shit no more and you need somebody to love you for you Right because one day you're not gonna be you know god damn more If you're gonna be a bag of water some god damn well, so he better love He better love what's in that bag god damn it because god damn, you know and the song is about that man It's just they they ain't gonna love you till you go man you know They ain't gonna love you till you go man Damn, so when you when niggas be talking about give me my flowers now and all that shit even if they give you flowers That don't mean they love you I didn't already accept it They ain't gonna love life till they go on like till i'm gone and when i'm gone They're gonna be replaying my shit and doing all this so right now i'm having the fucking time of my life I'm doing every goddamn thing I want to do today Not tomorrow to date and I want niggas to do the same thing so I write songs about it You did Man, fuck them flowers. You're right. I don't even like fucking flowers. Anyway, any god damn. Well, I don't even try my chicken with flower What? This is the fuck you did Check you're crazy I thought it went the right way Hey, man, what's your social media so everybody who's watching can go catch up with you and Check out these exclusive snippets and shit like that man. I ain't gonna even get these niggas my social media I'm just doing well like making looking up right Find me if you want me right you can find it god damn it ain't god damn you find anything Yeah, I know you ain't looking for me, but it's at jack thriller There go right there just in case you wanted to go over there anyway. They know your page. Okay, cool. They see you They know it's at jack thriller. They yeah, are you sure they know it's at jack thriller? I'm by jay. Wayne. Did you know my shit was at jack thriller? Like did you know my shit was at jack thriller? No, he don't follow you. He don't follow me. I bet I do follow you. I bet you don't Don't prove shit to him. He ain't gonna be able to see it anyway. Come on Check somebody having right there history being made right now. Let me find it real quick boy I gotta get home and get some sleep at home school my little boy, man That's big. I'm a real father Oh I said that so I can hurry up god damn and then hold up it's at jack thriller jack th r jack Oh, you don't follow me jack. Come on And jack th r i l l er Yes Damn, do I follow you? No I'm a fucking genius life. I know this your first time in the trap, but don't let it be your last man Now check them. Just got my page back. I ain't have I lost my page 85. So I'm sure We're gonna sit out there. Oh Yeah, oh He be on that bullshit. Do I look better smiling or not? No, just you ugly either