 The drama over the relocation of Edo State Deputy Governor Comrade Philip Shwaibu's office outside of the government house may have come to an end as the letter to that effect signed by the Secretary to the State Government Osarodiongye surfaced on Tuesday morning. Shwaibu had denied the knowledge of the relocation of his office on Monday when he was locked out, noting that he had not been served the letter to quits the government house premises for another location. The embattled Deputy Governor who also said that only the civil servants were instructed through a letter to move into the new office. The letter by Osarodiongye addressed to the Deputy Governor stated that Governor Godunabaseki had directed that the Shwaibu office should be relocated to the new office address. Well joining us to discuss this is a People's Democratic Party shift in Edo State Honorable Shedrak Udubai Honorable good evening and thank you for joining us. I think that you are muted please unmute yourself so we can hear you. Okay. We can hear you. It's so noisy where you are we can barely hear you. I'm happy to be with you. Yes okay it's good to have you join us on the show. Let's look at the situation in your state the feud between the Governor and the Deputy Governor has continued to play out you know in the eyes of everybody across the country and one would wonder why this is taking this turn. The last time you and I were on this show talking about the situation you had said that it was because of Mr Shwaibu's governorship ambition and that you felt that there was the hand of ESO in the situation but here we are now the Governor of the state is asking him to relocate outside of the government house. Many people have said that this is you know a low blow and should not be seen to be done by the Governor. Yes it is under the instructions of the Governor it is exactly be done by the Governor but I believe they are making a move out of here because currently what we have is that the Governor wants to put our office to some other use and they may ask that the Deputy Governor to relocate to another office outside the government house but on number 7 Ustazdebiya venue because the Governor's house is at number 1 Ustazdebiya venue and then proper due process was followed the instructions were given even down to the all the staff the civil servants the permanent secretaries and directors that work under the office of the Deputy Governor they were duly notified and that notification came in early in the morning for all of them to move. The Deputy Governor was aware that yes the staffs and the office had been relocated but in between somehow we had to come to the office that very day to make an unpleasant show of the activity of the office came in with a few boys who camera the event and they saw him speaking in front of the government house as they had received the instruction or had not gotten any parameters to the exit of his office of the relocation of the office and I wanted to be on it's not like he is no longer the Deputy Governor he is the Deputy Governor and the structure the office he had worked from before that office particularly does not it does not mean that for the fact that he is no longer the Deputy Governor there was a time in his government yes Governor Basek his office the office of the Governor was under innovation and they had to move in to work with the current office of the Chief of Staff so it's not like this on board may say okay the Governor is trying to handle the Deputy Governor but beyond that I see this as just a mere it comes to nothing when it comes to administrative duties functions and relations. And there are those who are pundits who have looked at this issue and how long it's lingered well at first it looked like an internal party issue but it's gone beyond that and and many are saying how does this not distract the governor from governance could this issue have not been handled better as opposed to what we're seeing play out especially in the media. Yes it could have been handled better because even after the Deputy Governor made some strategic moves to take the case out of courts yes he did that and we were thinking of them as a man who to a larger extent have been loyal to the governor he should have engaged in extensive consultation and appeal because trust itself has been broken so what we're expecting is for him to strategically engage with Mr. Koda's persons within government who could speak to the conscience of the governor or give him a soft land there to see how best they can work closely and collaboratively in this business they have been for over seven years and they're about to see that amount to a large extent as not they say the governor has not given land but I doubt that is the case because he's still brandy the persons who speak for him are still grandstanding making delegations statements they sound very restrictive as though the deputy governor owns the knife and he am and I've said it's an issue of ambition like I always say where you are being gone from it's an issue of ambition the deputy governor wants to be governor he has the right he has the ill and ill able right every man has the constitutional right to aspire but by and large the governor does not want to support him the indications are clear and then by the logic of zoning even though zoning as a principle of partiality is not a strand of the constitution there are many democrats who believe they have an attempt to even development equal access to power and empowerment their power must rotate and then even if he's going to rotate again to a donut he certainly won't be the local government of the former governor of the state so those are the issues that around the years he can aspire but there are many persons who are spying from your house they're not deputy governors either and those ones they also have a fighting chance so the fact that the deputy governor gives him an edge where that edge should not be taken for granted but I strongly believe that going forward the deputy governor should become it should be collected if the office has been located all they have expected is you have gone there do some inspection and then please try to at least switch the mind of the governor to say yes in as much as a broken trust they have rushed to court to secure a court judgment that could be said then was not really warranted but if this comes at the punishment let me take it and from here continue to beg and appeal but for him to see the grandstanding I don't think it's the best and then we'll get to this point where one person has drawn the first blood by going to court to openly uh insult or try to go for even their persons in the opposition party even his former leader master and that's Ali Oshomole who brought him into politics and they will come out openly do an APC shifting he has to reprimanded the appeal he should be able for his actions and in actions saying that even while he was governor he didn't take his uh even while he was governor his deputy governor they had the opportunity of succeeding him even though that one was tattoo and yet he wasn't taken to court they should go back and solve his problems so the challenge is that he appears to have gone too far with all of his actions and inactions his ambition appeared to have been slightly unbridled but he can continue to appeal that's what is available to him right now he doesn't have the kapa to call the shots and you're going to beg and beg persons who are close with the government to ensure that they're able to restore the once unable relationship that they had and that's what is available to him and anything outside of that will only make the situation worse I'm curious because I keep hearing you mostly say he needs to appeal he needs to appeal yes he might be the airing you know the airing party here but the governor is the chief executive officer um should he not be the one who's trying to clean up the mess as opposed to stoking the fire I mean the governor even though we hear that oh yes and people are being moved to the new address but it's not been anywhere in history where deputy governor is relocated outside of government house that is more like putting him in the doghouse isn't it isn't like putting him in a drug house um I can I can say before the office of the deputy governor is institutional is not structural the building where he had operated from may have been more comfortable more pleasing more befitting but there's another office that will pray from and they're not paying the time it may just be for a short period of time it doesn't take during COVID-19 many persons could no longer work from the office they have to pull out to locate to other private locations really work so when people see function uh no no you may not say may not result to optimal performance but I still do not see the governor say he wants to put that place to to better use could it be that the governor is trying could it be that the governor is trying to render him redundant is this a way to render him redundant like you said punishment but render him the redundant if even if he cannot sack him as the deputy governor redundancy is a question of how he chooses to function outside the office none of his powers were taken off the a's were fired the all the staffs he had were just looking at a different location yes if the demand was agreed and he said he wants to punish the governor it's the point I still won't see it as a punishment perhaps because um there are a lot of persons who are at their positions so they will be gladly be deputy governor from their houses so I strongly believe that demand is no longer comfortable having close by and he says function from it's not in also this time to be located to another local government I said the government asks at number one usadebe avenue and the new office the governor we located to is at number seven usadebe avenue it's a government property was formally the office of the procurement that was used for the those day procurement office and it's still in good shape so I strongly don't believe that it's so derogatory to not be classified as redundant or be reduced in terms of performance and output you see a functional place and I strongly believe that since he has his power and his mind he has his aides and his support staffs who seem to be able to produce a unit of democracy as he would have if he came from within government house is there is there an end to inside to this for want of a better way to describe wahala that you know is going on because whether we like it or not this is making more headlines than whatever thing that the governor might be doing in the state again we've known that previously there have been notable citizens in the state from political and religious circles who have tried to intervene and to put an end to this matter but all has been done to no avail there's not necessarily been any precedents of a deputy governor who had you know an ambition that went swiftly except if it were he was nominated by his you know principle to hold that office half the time we see these fights between a governor and deputy governors across the state you know in different dispensations we've seen it happen but how do you think that this can be put to an end whether shuaibu continues to appeal or beg or atone for his sins or not how what is there an end in sight they are trying to believe there's an end and if he is able to he is closest he was he had them he won't credit himself as one of the closest persons with governors in time the governor in time passed and to allow just the issue is in also he also is in the best position to say those persons who go to appeal on his behalf for the best of my knowledge i know fully well that the the ag-dowshishan the the ag-bishop of the pelisid ag-dowshish has also waded into the matter he had spoken to some of the traditional leaders of the bini traditional council they two have waded into the matter he is going to fade out what i believe is that once the any calendar comes out the any calendar comes out and then the party eventually throws up the candidates all these things eventually comes to nothing and the deputy governor will have to fall in line and the governor too will have to fall in line to grab that particular point of time is it is the adult people that will have the capacity to choose who will become governor or not and they're struggling to believe that once you get to that crossroad and beyond that they will both have the least issue there in natural debt and they're struggling to believe that also i am not one of those persons who are finding the embassies of film to say the governor should not reconcile with the deputy governor there's nothing particular to be made i also fear for the governor that if the deputy governor should choose to go rogue and say oh i want to now endeavor to i want to not tear down the house that we built collectively you also have the capacity it's not a paperweight politician even though it does not have the requisite capacity to become governor or to mosey himself down to the the seat of being governor but i'm struggling to believe that he has good capacity to also make some damages if he chooses to so he should also be giving the immediate respect and they're struggling to believe that the governor will not go beyond that this i'm sure that he also has some good reasons by this relocation issue if and i also want to appeal i've done my appeal but if there's a corridor so far because i'm also closed i walk closely with the government and i also i think that we have lost that connection with uh mr udu udu agh bye um well we have been speaking with uh pdp chifte and in a do-state honorable shadrach udu gabai on the feud between the deputy governor and the state governor unfortunately um we he has dropped off from our connection but we're hoping that there is an end to insight in terms of the situation but i want to say thank you to all of you who participated and watched the show tonight don't forget we'll be back here tomorrow uh gracing your screens and talking about politics within and outside nigeria don't forget to follow us on plus tv africa on youtube to play catch up on all our previous episodes i'm mary anacorn do have a good evening