 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go Mind pump, mind pump with your hosts, Sal DiStefano, Adam Schaefer and Justin Andrews In this episode of Mind Pump Oh Right here for the first 56 minutes. We have our introductory conversation. We talk about our upcoming Viori event. Finally we're going on tour This is a new thing for us. We've never done anything like this before. We're going out there. What are we doing Adam? We're shaking babies and kissing hands It's about the right order. Yeah, we give a little update for your babies Adams Achilles and wash your hands. We actually do a Nice long stint of sports talk. Wow. It was so enjoyable. That did happen. Yeah, I talked maybe my favorite Pigs are flying outside right now. Then we talked about a documentary that we all just recently watched called called the Magic Pill You can see it on Netflix. It's a pretty powerful documentary about how food can cure many of our chronic ailments Now we do mention Thrive Market. They are the the largest Producer or at least I should say distributor of non-gmo organic products online And the prices you get on there are unparalleled very inexpensive two-day shipping We have got a hookup for Mind-pump listeners. So here's what you do you go to thrivemarket.com forward slash mind pump you'll get a month free membership plus $20 off your first three orders of $49 or more plus free shipping. So go check it out We also talk about tricks that we use to get our kids to make better choices. Good. Yeah, we tricked Yeah, lots of Tom foolery going on here. That's an old term. Oh, yeah, then we get an extreme scram The first question was what are some tips to stay on track with your diet when your partner is eating Terribly like what are the things you can do besides breaking up with them? Which is an option. That's that's the number one trick The next question was this person's 24 weeks pregnant Is lifting weights and is concerned about recruitment patterns changing as her belly and body Grow and change. So what do we recommend during pregnancy and post-pregnancy to deal with these differing different recruitment patterns? the next question was if this person's strength keeps increasing while they're following a good program like maps and a Bollock does that mean the metabolism is speeding up in other words if you're getting stronger Is that a sign that your metabolic system is? Amping up or heating up so you're burning more calories and finally This individual has been a personal trainer for about seven months So they're a new trainer and they keep having male clients that just want to lift heavy weight right out the gates They don't want to do the correctional stuff. They don't want to work on that's weird proper men aren't usually like that Yeah, exactly movement patterns. How do you deal with this if you're a trainer? How do you do especially if you're female and you have male clients who just want to impress you with the? 20-pound dumbbells that they can curl also this month you can get our Fasting guide and our intuitive nutrition guide for free for free you can get things out of good Yeah, you can get them for free if you enroll in any bundle now We know summer's coming up So a lot of people are interested in getting the leaner a big big part of that is your nutrition Well, if you enroll in any bundle now bundles are we we take multiple maps programs put them together discount them Like 30% off you'll get those two guides for free this month only You can find all of this at mine pump media calm When's the our first event of the tour that we're doing is that the is that an Encinitas? Yeah, that's your in a week, right? Yeah, I think we're nine days away or so matches right next Thursday I believe so May 10th. It's the Viori event in Encinitas You guys know I used to manage you guys know I managed the 24 fitness there for one month No, you know that so when I when I left 24 the first time because I worked there twice when I left the first time I had my gym and Palm Springs or whatever and then when I came back. I was supposed to work in Southern, California for a VP there that I liked a lot and he was gonna give me a big club But there were none available so he gave me in Encinitas for a month in the interim and ended up coming back up to San Jose But it was the smallest club I'd ever run was a tiny little fun gym though nice town Was it one of their like little single-a boxes? You know what? It's like you ever been to the yeah You ever been to the Saratoga 24 the one at that one Cox is that the express one? I have been there It's not expressed. They've been around for a while. So they didn't build it that way. It was just a small club Yeah, so the one in Encinitas I ran that for exactly one month and but what a great little town It's like a nice little beach town. Isn't our boy Josh Trent from around that area. He's San Diego. Yeah, San Diego I actually think he's well Encinitas. Yeah, it's not far from each other, right? They're only like 20 30 minutes Isn't it? Yeah, you guys will love you guys don't love it down there sweet So we're going down the 10th and then that's the live Q&A or there's still sign-ups for it, Doug Yeah, there are if you go on to our website at www.mindpumpmedia.com slash Tour you can sign up and it's very important to put the WWW at the beginning. Otherwise it won't work. Can they what if they click the link directly from the show notes? We'll take him straight. Yes, that's another way to do it. Okay, so show notes will have it. Yeah, that's I'm excited man. This is also I know at the Viori event at the Viori event they will have The 25% off of all Viori for why they're there too Yeah, so everybody gets hooked up on a fat discount there, which you know 25% off the stuff I got sick gear there Yeah, you're gonna want to use that and then mere I'm not gonna tell you what we do Which is the end of the tour and this is the beginning I'm gonna slightly hype this up a little bit because this is the plan is that if all goes well and we have an incredible turn out On these like it's looking like it's gonna be already I think we're already half or three quarters full on most of them How many people are supposed to attend this one here if you're what how many I think the max we can fit in these places are about a hundred Okay, so it's come it's more it's more depending on which location and I know Taylor's managing all that with with the companies and so You know, it's gonna everybody who wants to come has to send put submit and then from there We'll we'll take an order of how they came in how many total we can we'll we'll get back to everybody But what I was getting at was If you know if this begin become something that we we start doing where we head to different states and we tour and hit a couple locations of Brand partnerships is at the end of these tours will have Something cool that that people can get that will be limited and unique at just that just that one event And is it the nude photos of Doug? No, this is something that This will be something really cool, too. It won't be like some bullshit like that You just you know some it won't be like one of our sponsors fucking pack No, only the coolest of cool kids will get it. Yeah. Yeah, it's gonna be one of those kind of that's yeah I that's the idea It's gonna be something that is unique and cool. You won't be able to buy it You won't be able to get anything you'll only be able to get it at the at the live event So yeah, I'm excited for this man. It's gonna be a good time question You have an armband or something on your ankle is that it's that company which one this one and I keep giving them love on this show and that's for that's they're getting lucky right now I Wasn't even playing they're definitely not paying. I don't know if it was an east coast west coast thing or something like the Rappers back in the day. No, it's it's it's one of these infrared. Yeah infrared sleeves and stuff man I tell you what when we went to paleo You know back to we had back-to-back days where I was pushing over 20,000 steps and up till since the injury I haven't done more than 12. It's been I've been where I worked up and 8 to 10 was a lot than 10 to 12 I've been like slowly is that what we were hitting about 20 because you had your thing on your trucker. Yeah, yeah Yeah, one night, especially yeah, yeah, we had both there was two days that's and so I've just been in a lot of pain the last two days it fucking hurts man, and you know, it's And I can tell so there's still damage, you know, it's not fully healed for sure and It's been one of the hardest injuries. I've had to deal with so I had to kind of back it off a little bit Katrina was doing work on it. Yeah tendons take a while to heal much longer than muscles Oh, man, it's much longer, but you know a lot of blood supply the good news is or the or the bright side is as Tough as it's been it's been a fast recovery in comparison to how most people react to or how the bodies react to this kind of a I mean a partial tear of Achilles people are out for a long time Yeah, no everybody that's told me that's like had it had it bad. They told me like you man I don't I didn't feel normal till a year later exactly so you know And I can totally get that I mean it doesn't look like I'm gonna be Playing ball or jumping or anything crazy anytime soon because like I said that the pains are I mean I did some training while we were you guys. I think we're napping or somewhere else in the pool Which was really nice because I don't have access to like a four-foot pool like that anymore nearby So that was really nice when you were running across the pool. Yeah. Yeah, so I was doing that on the water Yeah, man, yeah, so I was doing some work in the walk on water that felt really that felt really good to do that But you're able to squat and are you can you deadlift yet? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no I I haven't pushed the deadlift as far as strength wise to be harder. Yeah, there's the squad I can though the squad I've been I've been squatting decent. It feels good to get back That's the biggest thing for me. I just feel good that I can walk normal when it gets really bad I lamp like last night we were at the Warriors game and you know, oh, how was that by the way? Oh epic, bro. Did they win dude? We won. Okay, so check this out So Stefan Curry has been out for got I think six eight weeks now And we won the first series against San Antonio in five games without him that's our star player right and It was so part of why I wanted to go to this game It's kind of a last-minute decision with Katrina is we know we've agreed that we're gonna go to every round of the playoffs for both the Warriors and the Sharks and So last night want to win. We're just like, let's go. Let's go to this game because this is game This is the first game Stefan Curry is coming back. We're home. And so I want to see fire Well, I missed it. Listen how this goes down. So we get there And you don't know going to the game like you they say he's cleared He's gonna play is he gonna start or is he gonna come off the bench? And you don't know until game time comes around and they announced the starting lineup And he doesn't start so he's not they're not gonna start them Give him a little bit extra little extra rest. Yeah ease him in and about Midway through the first and it was a close game. It was that I think when he came in we were actually down by two and He comes in and when he goes to the scores table to check in the entire arena fucking stands up dude standing Oh, just to welcome him in and every while everyone standing clapping. He checks in We're still standing and clapping getting ready to sit down First play he has touches the ball fucking drains the three erupted Then he came down the very next play Ran the offense like impeccable backdoor pass for a layup. The place was I mean you just wanted to rip your shirt off and throw it on Is that kind of energy It was that kind of energy inside there Steve Kerr afterwards was being interviewed He said that's the loudest he's ever heard Oracle since he's been there and it was so it was dope to be there in that Environment at that intimate of a level to so we were I was about the score at the end the final score We we ended up winning by I think was five or six was the the final we were a close game Yeah, was oh the whole game was close until about the towards the end of the fourth Durant had 15 in the fourth quarter really pulled away. We were up by about 13 at one point And then what so when I had two minutes left I started to I try and sneak away like the last two minutes So I get in front of traffic and if it's not a close If it's if we have enough of a spread that I know we're gonna win so I Left so I didn't watch the last two minutes. I listened to the last two minutes on the in the car I wouldn't mind, you know, like I said, I'm not huge into most sports But I would definitely not mind going to a game like that, you know, I mean Because of the audience you remain the crowd and I understand. I know basketball. I know football. I can watch I know what's going on So I I keep a lot of times. That's what wins people into becoming absolutely I know I was a I've told you guys I don't think I've ever shared this on air before but I was like I as a kid I was being an athlete playing sports like we were you know football baseball basketball Soccer those are all kinds of sports that I played and was around and we weren't we lived in you know The valley hot area and so with that no one had hockey rinks or anything that so we hated hockey Yeah, and I and what I why I say I hated hockey was I was so much into sports I watched sports center every single night I watched all the news I knew was going on in all sports and when hockey would come on We'd all my buddies. I'm like, ah hockey weight. Yeah, all the real highlights, right And we used to joke when when hockey seasons going on They actually get a couple of the highlights in the top 10 sports center and what a ways to talky what a way never show the Fighting right so we just used to talk so much shit about hockey and a lot of that was just naive I wasn't around it didn't play it and so, you know, I thought it was a lame game and My buddy back in I want to say 2004 or so 2003 2004 ish while I'm living in the Bay Area been here for a few years He calls me up and he's like hey, I got tickets to the sharks and I'm like hockey I'm fucking and I don't even know what part of the season it is for hockey. That's how disconnected. I'm the hockey I don't give a shit right. He's like he's like yeah, yeah, man. It's they're in playoffs right now It's a playoff game and I'm like, I don't know dude. I got shit going on I gotta work tomorrow morning. He's like come on I got center ice about 10 rows back probably with the best seats You can get in hockey because I've sat everywhere and ice is cool to do that on the ice and on the glass as an experience But it's not the best view I think best view center ice or behind the goalie and about 10 rows back so we're sitting that's my first experience is that I come into this playoff game and Man as soon as they came out on the ice to start it the place was and remember I'm a nap I'm an athlete. I'm a sports guy. I've been to ton of sports events I'd never felt something as electric as being in the shark tank for a playoff Hockey is and I nothing else instantly goose bumps all over my body And I was like holy shit this atmosphere is rad and then when you're watching the game live See TV is following the puck mm-hmm and a sport like hockey much like football much like soccer a lot of these sports That have a big wide spread out field the camera misses a lot of the good so much more drama People getting hit, you know like taking people out like plays like forming in the background Like you see like how they're you know, they're the kind of moving and swooping into position Like you don't see any of that shit on TV So I instantly fell in love with the sport of hockey It was later in my life when I was in my mid 20s and I would arguably say now that it's up there If not my favorite, it's top three favorite sports To watch now, especially if I'm watching live because my life hot hockey is epic And so is basketball if you get to sit down Basketball kind of sucks if you're really far away just because you feel so away from the game But you know what? I'm a little like I'll be honest dude football in person. It's the worst. It doesn't have the same impact I don't like it. It's the worst really. Yeah, the best seats in football Get a good eye of everything the best seats in football are 50 yard line Yeah, right the very front row like it doesn't get a few times it is exciting But it's just it's still when you put apples to apples against like, you know Hockey or basketball you don't get immersed into the action. You're too far away You know, I there's 50 yards There's 50 yards away from the guy who's sitting in the best seats the house 50 yards best seats the house from an actual player That's a long way like hockey matters If you're if you get a glass seats and hockey the dude could hit the glass in your face You see their fucking cheek just Touch him probably basketball of your blood The court side the fucking player could fall in your lap same thing for soccer same There's a baseball even baseball ball could hit you or the guy could dive into your lap catching the ball So you're more you're in the sport football You're so disconnected from it and with so many players on the field at once There's a lot of players in football There's more players on the field at once all in the same area than anywhere else So it's really easy to miss a lot of stuff happening. I mean, I don't know how many times I've been into a live football event think I'm following the play because it was a fake or something like that You're just kind of like I know Well, I'll go dude. I'll go if we go to one of those games. I'd love to go with you guys I'll be honest about my critique. You know, I mean if I like it or not You'd love it. I probably will I feel I feel like I will if I'm there. You know what I mean? Yeah, I I think we're all I think we're all equally Even though we're not all equally the same into sports and into the same things like that We're all cerebral guys. Yeah, and that's the part where I think that you would always really dig about this Is the deep that the more you dive into sports. I think it's one of the greatest expressions of You know training and dieting and getting your bodies prepared to perform at the highest most optimal level And then you add that with some of the most brilliant minds that actually take it's like it's war That's what I was gonna say modern-day war. That's what I say for me. It's when I watch sports That's literally what I see is I see Organized war with rules and no killing. Yes. And so then I find it fascinating, especially, you know football for me is the most fascinating only because It's so it's so much closer to modern warfare than other sports because you have Players that look so different from each other like a cornerback looks so different from alignment Looks so different from a safety and a quarterback and a running back And it's like you have your tanks you have your planes you have your your seat You know your your you know your ships and they're all different shapes and sizes because of their different roles So when you watch the game, it's for me, it's pretty cool because it's so strategic It's down to the the size of the players. Well, and as as you become a deeper and deeper fan I won't bore our audience. It doesn't give a shit about sports and stuff But now let's do it. We never talk about it But as you get deeper into the sport and all of them are you are unique to themself whether it be baseball football basketball hockey whatever we're talking about That the average person who shows up and watches a game That's just like a what we call like a weekend warrior type of a fan who's just watching the sport for the score like that's That's nowhere near as as entertaining to me as really understanding the strategy of the game And seeing it happen that the average person doesn't see, you know They're for example, like a game like hockey that moves so fast There's constantly rotations happening. So there's guys that are coming on and off the ice on and off the ice the whole entire game But every move that that the the coach plays as far as putting a team out there There is a there's a deeper strategy to that, you know, and there's certain guys on the team that are designed to Go after and hurt players over the team or or protect guys on our team It's just you know, it's how we organize ourselves and I find it fascinating. It's very clear It's very black and white, but business is like this too, you know, you have a big business You have your players that are really good at sales You have your players that are really good at, you know Math and you've got the people are really good at marketing and you just put your people in their positions and And then run the play mark cuban's book is great because he uses and I love I love mark cuban And I think you're right. I think that there are so many parallels to business and sports. It's all it's what it is It's not even business and sports. It's just what humans do like it's what we do when we organize, you know You're better off when you get people who are good at specific things doing particular Playing particular roles and then everybody works together when you combine these roles and then that's when you get That's when you succeed. It's the the team that and your business whatever But it's the team that Where the players are in the best positions for themselves and everybody just executes And so that will always trump A superstar, you know or whatever if you have people in the wrong positions, you could have the best People in the world, but if you have the best sales people In the world and you have them doing your engineering and you have the best engineers in the world and they're doing your sales You're fucked. You're not going to succeed. So check this out. This is something that Happened to me at being a diehard basketball fan. I went through about a 10-year stint where I stopped watching basketball And part of the reason why I didn't I what I used to say I used to and I know there's going to be some fans and I'm not going to like this I'm going to hate this shit, but I called it the Kobe era and it turned me off for the sport because we what had happened is Basketball became larger than life and you know part of that through shoes and television and advertising and things like that And it became you started to see it turn from a you know great team sport into these In unbelievable individuals that could do things that nobody else on the court could do and Kobe Bryant and the Michael Jorns And these guys are examples of that And we really lost this great But like playing sports. It was like who had the best player in the league. We idolized right and so I just I fell out of I stopped watching and I didn't like it at all and the spurs about 15 15 years ago or so really started to model their franchise differently and it was more it was the team was bigger than the person and the individual And they started to to build that around players that had the same attitude and the culture started from the top all the way down And something about them that like a lot of average people probably don't know about that is that The spurs have been in the playoffs for 19 years straight consistently regardless of how talented and I've had great players in their team But the the most important piece was how they played now The warriors have modeled their franchise after that in the last 10 you want to probably eight years or so I'd say is when we were winning. Oh, yeah And now you're watching it in like after all these years of of putting all these systems into place Of being team ball and being about the team and not individuals And we're just fucking everybody up And it's one of my favorite things to see is to see like when we collectively come together on something How much more powerful we are than we are individuals just goes to show you when people organize themselves What they can what they can accomplish in sports is just a very clear Black and white representation of that it's very easy to see in comparison to like society or whatever But it's when people voluntarily work together and do what they're good at And everybody does the role. It's pretty pretty awesome. It's fascinating to see how much the ego plays a role in that and how challenging that is For people, you know, it's it's tough and I don't I don't know what drove that I don't know what drove us To I mean, obviously we evolved and got here by working with each other and helping each other And then we evolved so much that it got to a point where if people started to think that Oh, I can handle this and do this all on my own. I don't know where that stem from or whatever But the irony is we all I mean, especially in market-based societies It is people working together might not look like it But the reality is, you know, if you're listening to this podcast on your phone There's like countless millions of people that you know work together That culminated in the technology of that of that particular phone and putting that phone in your hand And that's direct and indirect, you know, every piece of that phone from the glass to the Technology that makes it run is the culmination of people working together voluntarily in to serve their best interests Their own best interests, you know, have you seen the have you seen Brad Pitt's movie Moneyball? No, I was okay. So let me talk about this because You had mentioned that and that was like a standout thing for me that turned me off of baseball I'm a huge ace fan. Okay. So we're talking about, you know, how basketball kind of turned into like idolizing these champions And like the the champion is my champion is is michael jordan and you know And you're sort of like lifting up these these individual players is like the carrier of the team Versus this mentality where moneyball is, you know, let's just turn this all into numbers And let's let's now bring in people that are role players that Statistically we can predict, you know the outcome of this game And, you know, based off of numbers, we're going to win X amount of games You know if people just you know succumb to their roles and they just put out the amount of effort We want them to put out and do what they want them to do And you know as a fan that has fucking killed that team for me killed it Because there's no loyalty you start you start Putting effort into, you know players on the team and knowing them and getting their backstory and finding out How they came through, you know minor leagues and Now they're in the pros and now you're on your team This is your team that they're on right and you're out there cheering for them and guess what they just got traded And now another one comes in replaces it And you know, meanwhile, there's this shifting. There's this moving up They they do it like way before you think they would trade somebody just to be able to get the the right pick It's a balancing act because oh my god If you're owning this one of these teams you there's a balancing act on one hand You want to win games because nothing's going to sell merchandising and fill seats Like a winning team, but at the same time if you make the fans unhappy with how you're doing it Yeah, that's a it's a balancing act It's a very unique perspective to hear you say that because I'm actually I fucking I think billy bean will go down in history and be we be spoken about for hundreds of years going forward and Well, he's a pioneer That he revolutionized the game now now almost every team has modeled modeled that or at least taken From that that look at we don't have to go out and get a big name If we actually do our homework and like find these these gyms that fit into Our system and our piece and are now really successful The money ball piece of it of you know, run managing because the a's are the most profitable team in the league Yeah, that's you know, not the Yankees not the red socks when you saw the red socks It actually worked right they won a championship. So then it's working right But they weren't phase yet right right and maybe that's because the a's run it more so just for a business and they're too aggressive I think with it Yeah, and I think maybe the maybe the red socks gave you more of a a balance of that and you see teams now I think having a little bit more balance, but he definitely changed how You know, they draft players they change that you trade players and what you do with them. So I fucking Love that movie. I think billy bean was just watch it. I haven't watched it was brilliant. Yeah, you should watch it It's a great movie no matter what, you know, this is uh, this is the longest I think we've ever talked about I know, you know, it's so funny. I keep apologizing because I know they I know that you don't like to talk. Oh, I don't care. I could talk about it But I mean, I'll if you talk specifics. I'm not gonna know what you're talking about. Yeah Well, that's what's tough like and that's where I'd love to go deep, you know I'm saying I love to go deep in the game and stuff like that, but it's Well, we'll keep doing this. We'll we'll you know, we start like I mean we got him into Jesus not that long ago Now Next is sports. Yeah, we're gonna change you bro. Everybody thinks that sal's influencing us. It's happening the other way We're slowly fireproofing it. Yeah, that's gonna fireproof me. Oh, you watch sports Anyway, so not to not changing gears because I don't want to talk about sports anymore But I do want to talk about But I do want to talk about what we just watched the documentary. Yeah We had magic pill you had so many people that were reaching out asking us to watch this documentary Which by the way, I want to start by saying that it's a little slow So I think if you are looking for a documentary to buckle up and like gripping. Yeah, it's not I think it's done. Okay Um, I think it echoes a lot of our message that we've been saying for a long time. So it's just it's so I mean essentially just a quick rundown. I mean it's it's showing how diet alone can solve a lot of Our health problems and they highlight a few people and situations in the documentary there's a There was a woman an older woman who was on like several different Prescription medications and they had another woman who's you know, asthmatic and then they were showing Aboriginal tribes who are doing a 10 week Retreat where they were going to eat a a more traditional aboriginal diet Um, they had they showed a family with a daughter who was autistic and they were going to change her diet And it was just I mean it's I get emotional watching it because I imagine how many people are suffering And the fix is really just changing their just changing their lifestyle I mean so many people that's the fix And you know, one of the arguments one of the things that they said in the in the documentary the family with the autistic girl And the dad's like, yeah, I don't know how we were gonna Do this because it's so much more expensive To eat this way and what they did is they went largely ketogenic. They eliminated processed foods And you know, they were seeing tremendous improvements in their daughter's health And the dad was like, well, it's kind of expensive So we're buying a whole cow and he's talking about his strategies and then but before that They were showing how much they were paying on her medications and she was on this anti-seizure drug That was a thousand dollars a bottle and this is not unheard of by the way if you have Chronic illness you you know how expensive medications can be even if you have insurance And so their insurance covered, you know, 70 percent of the cost So he was $300 a month on this on these pills And then he's talking about how expensive it is to eat healthy and in my thought process is like It's probably not it's probably not more expensive I don't think you put it apples to apples and like kind of really spreadsheet it out because like there's no way like if all those Medications, you know, you stack them up in the price point. There's no way you can you can see that You can see how like just going organic and buying like good whole foods, you know, that's not even going to compare It can be though I mean, we're also comparing to people that are all on fucking thousands of dollars of medication And then obviously they're saving tons of money, but to the average consumer I've seen I mean, I think max did a really good post like how fucked up Backwards our society is when it's like a salad cost $13 But then you can get like four cheeseburgers from McDonald's for under three dollars or whatever But this is also why we partnered with a company like thrive market I mean that was what turned all of us on with this company was To be able to provide high quality source food like this instantly to your house for make it cheaper and make it cheaper And this is why again, like I love attaching ourselves to a company that One has got an incredible message doing great things as far as with how they give back And then you know that this is the future man. This is where we are heading in this direction Where I mean, it's where you're watching the shift happen is more people demanded the price point gets down Right. I mean in here and look here's the bottom line like like we're relatively healthy people In this room and you know, most people in their 20s and 30s, although Although it's getting worse for them too now But for the you're not going to spend a ton of money on on medical stuff But you keep living a life where you don't eat in a way that serves your body And it will be more fucking expensive 100% You look at the average cost That somebody spends the last five to 10 years of their life or how much people End of spending on medications when they hit once they hit the ages of 50 and 60 And yeah, it's actually cheaper. It's actually much cheaper and you know less expensive tea to healthy and besides Let's say it wasn't uh, or you know, can you Can you really quantify the the quality of life loss that you have because you're eating? You know terribly. I mean, it's uh It's it's insane to me now as i'm watching this documentary and the documentary is very pro Uh ketogenic style diet and they have lots of scientists On there and researchers talking about why you know, this is this is probably how humans ate A lot of the times, you know naturally and how people tend to feel better When they eat this way, especially if they're already sick Which I think in the case of in the context of already being sick You may feel better eating this way because your body's really lost its ability to Utilize carbohydrates effect, you know efficiently or effectively. It's like if you have dementia if you have You know chronic, uh, you know autoimmune type disorders I know lots of people uh benefit from eating a higher much higher fat much lower carbohydrate type type diet so You know, you're seeing a lot of that stuff in this documentary Or they're kind of pushing that and promoting that but my My belief is that a lot of the benefits that people see When they eat that way isn't necessarily because of the macronutrient profile that I think that's part of it I think it's because it just cut out All those processed foods. So it's more like what they're not eating And less of what they are eating. I agree with that But now now that being said I was I was looking at this I know the studies on on carbohydrate intake and I know if you want to be Strong and explosive and you want to build muscle. You're probably better off eating some carbohydrates And then I was thinking of the in the context of uh, like human evolution And for most of human history You know for most of it the vast majority of it like 97 percent of it carbohydrates were Uh Harder to come by right right. They just don't grow naturally It like if you if you're a hunter gather, you're not going to run you're not going to encounter a lot of Carbohydrates they if if you try to eat and cover your caloric needs Nobody's ever been excited about like foraging to like, you know, keep things going. You're not going to have enough calories No, it's just not gonna be and I'm not this is pre agricultural revolution before humans Understood that they could actually grow food and you know plant things in particular ways So if you're for if you're if you're a hunter gatherer, you may encounter fruit every once a while or honey every once a while or Maybe a tuber here or there, but you're you're not going to eat very many carbs because there's not a lot around you now think of the context of that in terms of What skills or what physical attributes did humans need a lot of more than any other During most the human civilization endurance stamina. Yep stamina more than any more than anything else like hunter gatherers It's pretty well established that we probably in modern hunter gatherers do this do this now so we can still observe them, but The way we hunted animals was we tracked them until they wore out until they wore out And then we you know humans can throw with greater accuracy than any other animal So we probably Out we just wore them down and then fucking through our spears at them and killed them So strength and power and explosiveness and lots of muscle Evolutionarily speaking wasn't that big of an advantage. I mean we were definitely strong and muscular Especially compared to the average, you know out of shape, uh, you know American for example, but you know for stamina Is subsisting on lots of fats and low carbohydrates. Is that a good strategy? Yeah Actually your your body even if you're lean stores Tens of thousands of calories worth of ketones in the form of stored body fat Even if you're lean, you'll have something like 30 40 000 Calories stored on your body that you can use if you're if you're in a situation where you're not eating and you need to track an animal down Well carbohydrates, you're lucky if you can store about 6 000 calories worth So that'll run out very quickly So in that context because as i'm watching i'm like, well, you know But if you want to build muscle if you want to be explosive this and that and yeah, they'll do that But you know what for humans are much more I mean we're kind of designed to evolve to really have more stamina than anything and that comes from eating A diet that's more fat and way less, you know carbohydrates and again like what the documentary highlights is how beneficial that is for You know for people's health and again it just You know, how many people do you guys think if we go to the doctor if if they just changed Their lifestyle if they if they could just avoid all the I think that's the biggest takeaway from that video it's just showing that You know like how powerful food is and How like our entire society still hasn't got that concept yet So for any listener of this show, it's probably not very groundbreaking information but What I like about it is it's it's More of something that like it's on us it touches a lot of those topics and it's Presenting it in a way that now I can sort of relay this to Like maybe a family member or somebody that's like, you know, not really ready to deep dive yet I I like the I think the the good one or the big one for me was Or something that I hear a lot from parents Is oh my kid won't eat that. Oh, yes. Yes. That was a that was a powerful scene That's probably as a trainer for 15 years. I don't think I've heard that more than than anything else Which is just my kid won't eat it refuses to eat it won't eat this And so I remember watching that and and going like, you know, okay this is cool that they're going here because I think this is very common what this this was the autistic kid And you know, you're not dealing with like your regular right that makes it even harder, right? It's not like, you know, it's one thing to have a normal kid who refuses to eat food But imagine having an autistic kid that when you push a plate of chicken or something over to She throws it against the wall or screams and cries or you know They showed video of her putting herself in the corner and throwing these crazy tantrums And I can't imagine how hard that would be for a parent Going through that and going like I just want the fucking kid to shut up. Here's your goldfish Here's your fried, you know, chicken nuggets or whatever it is And so I I get that so I thought that to me that was the most powerful part of the documentary was Watching them progress through that and seeing the way she was reacting after they broke beyond the Tant and how the kid was craving this food after it took two weeks the breakthrough Yeah, two weeks later the kid was was eating the food that was put in front of her She was eating foods that were healthy and craving them And thriving as a result and here's my message to parents. Well, first off You can't expect your kids to do something that you're not. Okay, so that's number one So if you're eating a shitty diet and then you're putting you get a model healthy food to your kids Uh, well, good luck with that. That's a defeat. You're not going to win that It's like trying to tell you kids not to smoke cigarettes, but you smoke right all day long like it doesn't work Um, but here's number two stop being a fucking pussy. Okay, like be a parent like, you know Like I think parents are so afraid of their kids of their kids not liking them or being upset that they just You know, they just they they they tucked their tail between their legs and give their kids whatever they want And it's like it's fucking listen get a cry closet in your house. Yeah, your kid isn't going to starve Like are they going to be a few days where they don't know that's the point though That's the point people need to understand they can go a couple days if they're going to throw a tire You know a little hissy fit about it. Guess what like they're they're going to get hungry at some point Yeah, they will you know, they're going to subside. They're going to they're going to try it because they're so hungry You know, it's like they can fight you all they want But at the end of the day their body's going to want to feed Yes, and here's what I see Okay, because I think some parents see it and they think oh my my kid's just being a brat They're throwing a tantrum and they just want to eat their, you know, they're the crackers or whatever And they don't want to eat what I'm putting in front of them and they're acting crazy and they're acting like brats and they're acting You know like disrespectful. Here's what I see what you know what it looks like to me withdrawal Oh, okay, you take away alcohol from an alcoholic or you take away heroin from a heroin addict You're going to see the same type of behavior and that's what's happening. It's not that your kids are brats Your kids are literally going through withdrawal. They become dependent They become dependent on these processed sugary foods for sure And they get and they cry and they don't and they don't like it It's a hard process for them is no denying that dude. I've seen It's it's just Last night my my my son's volleyball team had a like a party at the end of the season So, you know, everybody was together and they were you know, they're having pizza and whatever and I brought my daughter and at the end of it they give a cake to the coach And it's a big ass cake And I'm in the lady who's serving the cake is giving the cake out to the kids and then my daughter's up next in line And she looks at my daughter. She's like, do you like a lot of frosting or a little bit of frosting? And I'm looking at the cake. I'm like the whole thing's covered in frosting Okay, but thanks for asking my daughter a stupid question. We all know what the answer is going to be So and you know, I'm surrounded by parents, right? So I'm very careful about how I come across To other people and also to my daughter in front of her friends in front of other people Because it could backfire, right? If I come across, you know, you don't be that dad I don't want to be the tyrant, right? And I don't want to dad that nobody wants to go to his house because Well, I don't want to be a tyrant to my daughter either I don't want her to have a bad, you know relationship with food because dad's looking over my shoulder So I'm just observing So I'm watching this and of course my daughter's like I like a lot of frosting And she gives and you guys can't see this on the on the podcast unfortunately, but this is how big of a piece I gave my daughter. He's showing about a softball on the half side and it's like and it's like thick Okay, and they give that to my daughter and I'm looking at this mom like That's that's four pieces for an adult. You just gave my eight-year-old daughter a massive piece of very very highly palatable addictive Food like okay, so let's watch and see what happens now. Luckily my kids don't eat a lot of sugar So I feel like okay. Maybe palette fatigue will kick in make her feel nauseous And sure enough it did she got through about a third of it and she left it and I'm like, oh, you don't want any more She was like no, I think I'm done And then of course she was acting kind of funny later on and I could tell What was going on and so I tried to connect that and I said me Do you feel kind of nauseous a little bit? She's like, yes, it might be because you ate too much of that cake too much sugar Does this that and the other and then I left it alone But people parents just they don't either they don't know Do you know how important that piece though is right there what you just said was You know being a being aware first of all that you don't want to be the dad that knocks the cake out of her hand Or says you can't have that But helping her make the connections of her not feeling good whether it be she's cranky whether she's irritable Or her stomach isn't feeling good or she has headaches or she can whatever that is as a parent You know is almost giving them that little bit of freedom to where the kid can make that choice So you're empowering her by doing that But then also helping her connect the dots on potentially how that makes her feel and then educating her along the way And then I know some people listening right now don't have the level of education You do but I also don't think that you get into really deep science with her I think you can keep it very simple for her I just explain it in a way that she can understand. I don't talk to her like she's a baby So I make sure that I do talk to her like she's a little older than she is But what you you would be surprised at how much more kids Understand than you think you know what I mean? It's so funny you brought this up because um, you know Little league they they do treats and stuff too. And this is still like a battle, you know that I have but Um, I wasn't there. We were in Austin and and my kids had a game and Courtney was there Um for the game and and she was telling me about this story She she saw that they had these huge rice krispy treats with like, you know Chocolate everything else in them and all this stuff with like a presuns and that's what like they got for a snack You know like this is like right before dinner again And so she just saw that and like saw And she just like my wife has no filter at all. That's probably why I married her She's just like she's like, oh come on like we're gonna give these kids You know all this sugar right after after they did all this like awesome exercise and we're gonna go Try and feed them like a healthy dinner after this whose idea was this like like ranting about it And the and the lady was right behind her and was like, oh, I just thought, you know, they'd like it and this is that Of course, I like it. Yeah, like Like that. She's just like whatever like was this just a care. I would have been like, oh god, like, you know Yes, this is like over the weekend So but it's but that's the mindset though the mindset is that we're catering into like what these kids like it's like It's it's that association of like celebration or you know, whatever the fuck we we attach to like birthdays parties this and that like we give them shit And it's like nobody nobody's put that together. It's like, why can't we give him something else? I'm fully convinced fully convinced that You know, forget dieting forget following this following that diet and do and watching your cow I'm fully convinced if the average person just eliminated processed food. That's it If you just cut out highly processed foods, you would notice a significant improvement in health You you would lose some body fat and you'd feel a lot better now You're gonna be ripped or you're gonna be shredded and probably not because at that point you need to Then also monitor things like calories and stuff like that But most people if they just did that alone would notice significant changes in the way they looked and felt And there's for two reasons one of the main reasons is and I've said this so many times But I don't care. I'm gonna keep saying it is Processed foods are designed specifically to make you overeat. Now. It's not some conspiracy theory This isn't some like evil, you know scientists in a laboratory is like, how can I make people well? It kind of is Let's be honest. It kind of is They're just they're just trying to sell more and you're and they know when they make something profits up They know when they make something taste ridiculously good People eat more and so there's of course you're gonna overeat When you eat these processed foods and then the other thing is what these foods are comprised of Well, it's it's stuff that doesn't make your body operate well And so if you just eliminate that alone, you know, watch what happens. Watch what happens to your kids I notice a significant change in my kids when they spend too much time at their grandparents house And you know, god bless their grandparents because they've got wonderful loving Grandparents, but it is a oh, let me tell you it's an uphill battle because I'll go They'll be at my you know, my parents house or my in-laws house and I'll go You know, my ex-in-laws house and I'll go there and And I see what they're giving them to eat and you know, my but you know My kid will be sitting on the on the on the couch and they'll be watching cartoons or whatever And they'll just have a large bag of some kind of processed snack Like there's not even portioned out just here's the bag until you want to stop eating You know, and so not only are you distracted from watching something, but now you're eating this You know, and it's like, oh man, how do I and you try to talk to the You know, I don't know how you are with your with your parents, but I talk to them about it And it's like they feel like they're being ridiculed. I'm the grandfather. I'm the grandma. That's my job to spoil. I'm like No, it's not your job to fucking ruin. This is some old. Yeah, this is some old I don't know where that came from, but it is shared by pretty much everybody like in that generation and I don't know like, you know, if it was coming back from You know the war or something or like, you know, like The scarcity mindset was still like there from previous like depression era people that passed that on But you know, we got to fucking break the chain and It is one of those things that like it it fires me up sometimes because like I feel like powerless because you just They do such a good job with with with taking them, um, you know, loving them and like Doing activities with them and being active and then and then they'll go to like McDonald's and and and treat it with like some apple pie and it's tough, dude Our culture is even kills me. Our culture has been celebrating food for a long time You know what I'm saying? We've been celebrating it for a really long time. It's a tough I think it's a very tough thing and we're right in the middle of it, right? So I think the generation coming up I think we'll be till I saw and I were talking to the bathroom just earlier that I think that You know, you guys as kids generation when they have they'll get it because there'll be enough information studies that Right now we are in the, you know, 70s of smoking cigarettes. It does look a lot like the cigarette Yeah, it is it reminds me a lot about that and and there's and there's still people they fucking smoke daily I don't think there'll ever be people that won't be drinking poison and eating shit for it. It looks like a deliberate He like a rock health Right, right. That's what it looks like. Yeah, it looks like to everybody, right So I think that when when it starts to get that stigma and I think we're watching that I think that the pendulum is starting to swing back, but we're still way on the other side I mean, we're we're nowhere near getting back to like centered. I think we're still on the very extreme side and I think we'll eventually come back. Well, so here's something cool And I don't know if you started to Justin, I don't know if you started to like give your kids time blocks for electronics like we had talked about or whatever So so here's something interesting that I'm gonna start doing so a couple things that I've noticed now my kids Both kids have four hours total of electronic time for the week during the week total That's not a lot, bro. I know that's not a lot Now that doesn't include that doesn't include four hours total for a week for a whole week. That is not a lot of time I could play I used to play video games for two three hours straight. I know what's I know That's where it is. That's that's where that's what we're starting and we're gonna see what it looks like But so far here's what I've noticed so far And by the way, that doesn't include when you need to use electronics for school work So if you have to go on your computer to riot what I'm not gonna of course I'm not gonna cut into that but it's four hours total that includes tv Uh and internet and video game. Yeah, that's so that's crazy. So here's what I've noticed I got a lot to contribute. Yes. Here's what I've noticed Since doing this first off my kids are way more personable They're they play together better Um, they're uh, they're more creative. They're more hard working So when they're doing their chores or whatever like they're on it And here's the other thing that I've noticed that I didn't even think about one of the greatest things you can teach your kids is how to Sacrifice for something that they want How to like save money or save whatever for something that they want in the future That's a great skill to have in fact Scientists it will tell you that a child who does that very well tends to grow up to be a successful adult your ability to Not always grab what's expedient into study hard and it's going to be tough for later on, you know benefits and all that stuff Like that's a that's a good skill and that's something you want to teach in your kids I love watching what my kids are doing now with their time because the four hours is up to them I don't say that they can do it all in one day if they want, but that's it, right? So i'm watching how they're doing it now My daughter is different than my son and what my daughter will do is she'll be like, okay, she'll be like Papa i'm gonna use uh 15 minutes of my time so make sure you you know whatever and so she used 15 minutes here 15 minutes there 20 minutes there and she's just monitoring her total And keeping track of my son Will go zero time all the way until he gets to the weekend. That's what I would when he can sit down I would do and look out with my friends. He's a lot like his dad. That's what I that's what I do That's how I party too if I like won't drink and I'll go out and go nuts So he's doing the same so that's what he'd do he'll save it all And then saturday he'll just like for three hours in a row He'll play video games with his friends and that's what he that's how he enjoys to do and that's fine But it's teaching them that skill and watching observing is really really cool But here's the thing i'm going to try now With with uh with processed foods and stuff like that. So I don't I don't treat processed foods like they're Uh like they're you know total poison and I don't I don't I'm not the super crazy tyrant I'm always trying to balance play that balancing act because my kids still have to live in this world, right? And so I don't want to create that kind of relationship with food where they rebel They go off to college or they're like, oh my dad was so Oppressive with food now I'm just gonna eat whatever I want type of deal because you can do that or create an eating disorder or something like right So I don't want to do any of that stuff. So every once in a while Special events like I I'll buy them these types of things. I want them to know that it's okay every once in a while It's not this evil thing, but it's probably better if we don't have it most of time Like the movies like when we go to the movies I always get my kids a small popcorn It's just something we do but what I'm going to start doing now Because I've noticed how they're so good with managing their electronic time is when we go to the movies I'll say, okay kids, you know, I'm going to get to your popcorn or I'm going to give you an extra 30 minutes of electronic time if you don't get the popcorn And I'm going to let them start to play with that trade and now that's up to me Of course, how much time I'll give them for whatever that's just an example But I want to see I want them to start to You know prioritize things that they want more than the other and just learn that skill And so I'm something I thought about this morning. That's interesting. I like that. Yeah, I We've we've implemented a whole new idea as well, which Is is somewhat based off of like that sort of a reward thing But also like you earn it. So we have a board That I've actually taken like so My kids have done certain chores and like they can earn a certain amount of money for whatever they're doing And I've already kind of established some kind of like an economy with that, you know Like okay this equates to this and like just on a real small level of like, you know, real tough tasks You know, like you mean like the trash is a dollar. Yeah, if I do dishes after it's seven dollars And if you mow the lawn, that's ten dollars. Exactly. Okay, cool. Exactly. So They understand they understand that already that each one carries a little more weight And we have to been monitoring a lot of their electronic time as well Um, but so what I've done that's been a little bit more powerful is actually taking That the cash of that money and then put it in like the different slots for the different activities So they actually like see it as they walk upstairs. They see the cash And then they just get self motivated to work towards that cash And then that cash can pay for like like you said like a more electronic time Or you know, like oh that's kind of like Legos. I like that or whatever. So those are skills Those are so Valuable because a lot of kids don't have those skills because whatever they want to get right in front of them And so then in the real world, you know, if you'd have what a brilliant idea. Very smart. Yeah No, you so they have to they would have to now purchase their Yeah, their time they purchase just like any other economy that we're Such a great lesson because this is an adult if you did want to muck out on that You'd have to do it you'd have to buy it, you know I'm saying you had to buy it And you'd have to sacrifice working and making more money for that time And you'd have to find a balance or else you'd be broke because you can't just spend money all the time and not work for that So what a great fucking way to teach that lesson when your kids start to identify with with that or understand that You start to see it in other behaviors like, you know, one thing that I always Since birth with my kids that I try to to you know to instill in them is the value of Hard work and how and over talent over anything like I rarely ever tell my kids You're super smart. You're super talented whatever Not because I don't think that they are or I don't think they have any talents but because I want them to I want them to value the hard work that went into it instead of the natural ability So like my son's super good at math like he's and you know, he scores really really high in academics I I don't sit down and tell them. Hey, you're you're you're brilliant In fact, what I tend to do is I sit down with them and I say look a lot of these things come easy to you So you're gonna you're gonna need to figure out how to challenge yourself And push yourself because you're gonna do better than a lot of other kids just and it's easy And so what the crazy thing is last night Again because the electronic thing, right? It's like Seven o'clock or seven thirty at night and you know, the kids are up front of the couple hours or whatever And we're sitting around and you know my my my son's like, hey Can we watch a movie together because it doesn't count on the time if we all do it as a family? So I'm like now, you know, I don't really I'm probably gonna go to bed early tonight I need you some work. So sorry. I'm not gonna be able to watch tv with you But you can go if you want to read or whatever it's up to you So he looks at me and he goes, you know what I'm gonna do he goes I'm gonna go upstairs and do uh We have this they have this weekly homework that they're supposed to do And studying he's like I'm gonna go up and do that and I'm like what like he's voluntarily choosing to do that Yeah, so I go upstairs. You know after about an after about 30 minutes or so and he's doing it still And I'm like, why are you why'd you choose to do this instead of? You know reading your books and stuff like that and he goes well, he goes I have the time he goes. I think I'm gonna do this because I like uh, you know, I like getting good grades and this this is something I want to work towards He goes after about another 20 minutes. I think I'll start reading. I didn't say anything else I just left but to see it in action To see that your kid starts to make those decisions and what you're doing is working Because sometimes it's I'll tell you man. It's hard as a parent dude because Nobody wants you don't want your kids to hate you and let me tell you something right now as a divorce father That's even more pressure way harder because especially if mom is on the other side feeding them crap Letting them play video games whenever they want or or and the good news is for the most part We work together really well me and my ex but really here's what it comes down to You know, we got divorced I just a lot of there's a lot of guilt that goes through your mind as a parent when you do that because it's tough for the Kids very tough. No matter how great you make it. It's gonna be hard. You gotta change homes You gotta you know mom dad's not living at home and more a lot of different things All I want to do is make my kids like me. I just want to make life Nice for them. So, you know how hard it is to like tell my kids you can't do something or to kind of You know be a parent it's very very hard a very difficult thing to do But then when you see the behaviors You know, it's like, okay, man, and you know in your kids thrive on it It's not here's the thing like you they call it spoiling your kids for a reason You're you're literally it's like spoiling fruit or spoiling food. You're making your kid bad Like they're not going to be a great They're not going to be as as as fruitful an adult as is fulfilled as an adult as it can be If you are afraid of Laying down the law sometimes you got to do that sometimes and food is one of those things and parents are fucking run Ragged by their kids. You know at times that parents tell me Oh my oh, you know, I want to feed my kids, you know vegetables But they just won't eat it and all they want to eat is chicken nuggets and pasta So that's all we give them. Otherwise they won't eat. It's like actually I'd like to test that theory I'd like for your kid to come live with me for a week and we'll see if they starve themselves to death If I don't give them chicken nuggets and pasta I highly highly highly not gonna happen. Not gonna happen This clause brought to you by organifi For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition Organifi fills the gap with laboratory tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health the performance the added edge Try organifi totally risk-free for 60 days by going to organifi.com That's o-r-g-a-n-i-f-i dot com and use a coupon code mine pump for 20 off at checkout Our first question is from beth lian Tips on staying on track with your diet when your partner buys snacks and treats for you and always wants to eat out You know what so this is just you and your partner. Um Well, I hate to tell you this but you are responsible for yourself Right and that's pretty much it. You know, um Well, you just have to you have to evaluate How important that is, you know, and this is uh, this is in my opinion part of You know as you get older and you date, um, lots of different people A lot of that isn't like you figuring out the the person that you want it's more about you figure out what's important to you and in your value system and You know something that I didn't piece together even being a trainer like I was a trainer But it wasn't necessary that I had a girl that was a trainer or in the health and fitness space Or hardcore into working out and dieting. So I did a lot of really awesome chicks that You know, we're pretty and you know took the decent care of themselves But also didn't value, you know eating really good or making sacrifice to be healthy They just didn't care about that stuff as much and you know, it kind of it wore on me a little bit But it wasn't like a game like oh, I'm gonna be I'm done with this girl because she likes to eat too much pasta Like it wasn't like that But what I realized after every relationship when I'd be single again Is the one of the things I love to do is to take care of myself and train and eat correctly and do that And I started to piece it together after and it took a while of relationships before I realized like I want to partner that this is important because it's so important to me because I'm not fully loving myself When I'm not taking care of myself like as far as food choices and things like that And so and I'll be the first to admit that I need help I was raised in a home that I was able to eat all those things So I battle with my own desires and wanted to say ah, fuck it just go eat all eat whatever And I know better So I also want to partner who has similar goals in that area because I know that I'm not going to be perfect All the time and if I have somebody who's constantly pulling me towards the snacks the candies the eating out all the time I I know that I'll probably eventually give in to that more than I like to and then I end up resenting myself because I don't like the way I look and feel and so really this is about you and your values now That may not be you you may not feel like you need a partner Who is cares about health the same way you do and you have the discipline To do what you need to do regardless what they do kind of what sal was saying like this is on you So it's either on you To make the right choices or it's on you to figure out if this is something that's important that you find in your partner So a lot of reflection. Well, and you just really have to communicate That it's important with your partner and I think that a lot of times You you know, you're on separate paths and um, it doesn't really get discussed a lot like I'm I'm really trying to do this and I want you to come on board But like there's no real conversation that's like, you know, this is really important to me and like these are things that Um, I value I value and I want you to support me in this and like really just like lay it Down and be like this is this is something that I'm trying to do. I would really like you to support me in this Yeah, you know, it's like if you don't have that conversation, they're not going to understand that You know when this becomes a problem It becomes a problem when two people meet and they start dating and then one of them Starts to figure out eating, you know, healthy and starts to take care of themselves And so that's when it really becomes a problem because I think it's more rare to see somebody who's really into health And wellness date someone who's not right out the gates. You know what I mean? Like that's not true I did a lot. It's more rare. It's not as it's not as common. You know what I'm saying I think it depends on where you're at in your life Like I don't know who this person is in their profile and if they're Before 30 years old it's way common I think that's less common as a 35 38 39 year old man to go find a woman That's like if we were all single now, right? If we were all single and on the dating market, right and swipe and left Then we literally would not all day pick somebody who's not in that because we know ourselves Because we know how important it is So we wouldn't even gravitate towards a person that didn't have similar values Now when you're in your 20s and everybody looks decent Even when they eat shitty food, you know I'm saying or have bad choices or bad habits Like I mean I did a lot of like modeled like chicks that like ate literally jack-in-the-box and carrots Like that's what they had and they looked awesome. I mean awesome enough to make magazines and do things like that That's what I mean. It's not really a problem It's not really a problem until one person, you know realizes it's super important to them It's basically my point And I mean you're right if someone's in their 20s and they're really kind of eating right and what It's more rare to find someone in their 20s who's really into health and wellness more It's more common to find someone in their 20s who eats a particular way to look a particular way Like I get that like in my 20s. Look here's the deal I ate a particular way, but it wasn't for health and wellness. It was because I wanted to look buffed I really didn't care about the other stuff and so my choices weren't necessarily driven by right by health So that's I think when it becomes a problem when it becomes a big problem Is when you have a partner that you have a child with Now there's a big problem because now how do we feed your value system is different? Yeah, how do we feed the kid now? Because it's one thing for you to feed yourself a particular way And you don't want to take care of yourself and maybe I've accepted that and whatever But when it comes to a child, that's also my kid Now this may be an issue because I think they need to eat a particular way for their health and you Don't think it's that important and I feel like you're harming the kid that that's when it can become a problem But at the end of the day, here's a deal Uh, who is it more of a bigger who who's a more of a pain in the ass? The person who doesn't eat healthy and just buys lots of snacks or the person who eats healthy And we'll need all those snacks The reality is you're probably a bigger pain in the ass to the other person and that's okay My point is don't give in like if they buy a bunch of food and one eat out And you're like no, I don't want to eat there because it's not really that healthy You know, maybe they'll get the maybe if they really want to be with you They'll be like, okay fine. We'll eat out somewhere that I know you'll want to eat Look, a lot of people a lot of my friends and family think I'm a pain in the ass because of that I can't tell you how many times people will throw a party And then they'll be like, well, what's Sal gonna eat? Because they know I'm not going to eat the the domino's pizza and the and the cupcakes And so many times I'll tell them, well, don't worry. I won't eat anything. I'm fine And then they feel guilty and they're like, well, we'll make some, you know, something else for you or whatever Here's some mineral water. Yeah, just kind of, you know Oh, dude, it's a duper chico Demeaning you. It's so funny. We, you know, Jessica and I went to her friend's Kids birthday party and there wasn't anything there that I really could eat or wanted to eat, right? So people were coming up to be like, hey, how come you're not eating any food and whatever? And I could tell they're taking it personal and so it's like it's hard to explain to them Why without them taking it personal. So I'm just telling them like and usually what I'll say to people If I want to lie just to get out of it or whatever as I'll say Oh, I have an intolerance to that food or I have a bad stomach right now People usually leave me alone when I say something like that. Nobody will feed you if you tell them you have diarrhea Yeah, trust me. It's coming out hot if I eat that but yeah, it's You know, here's the thing like you got to decide how important it is to you that your partner, especially if it's a You know, it's it's tough when you have a partner and you can see In witness their their poor health So besides the aesthetics like yeah, if they're getting overweight and you're pretty fit I mean, you're not attracted to anymore to them anymore Like I get that but when you notice that they're like more lazy Or their moods are shifting a lot and you know, like, oh man, it's because you're not eating really healthy You know, you got to decide how important it is to you because if this is a very important thing to you Like if you're a christian and it's super important, your religion is really important to you Might be hard for you to date a an atheist or a you know, a satan worshiper, you know, so So if you're really really healthy, it's like cupcakes or broccoli Satan's nutrition is like religion. It's well, I mean, it's the thing Like if it's super important to you and they're the opposite of that You might you might you might not last very long. You might want to talk to them about it But otherwise just just worry about yourself Just do your thing and either they'll come along and and follow with you or You'll start to get sick of them and you know, maybe it won't work out Next question is from naturally britney I'm 24 weeks pregnant And I've been lifting weights the entire pregnancy with plans to continue through to the end My question is should I be concerned about my recruitment patterns? Changing as my belly and body is drastically changing. If so, what would you recommend? Do recruitment patterns change as your your baby grows and your belly grows? Absolutely It's supposed to yeah, so recruitment patterns are You know, and I'm gonna I'm gonna just give you a real general explanation This is how your muscles fire which ones fire harder the The you know, which ones fire first which ones stay fired which ones relax And that's what gives you your movement. Well when your baby is growing Your abs and your obliques and your transverse abdominis they stretch out stretched way out and and your hip flexors actually start to support you A lot more and that's normal and there's nothing wrong with changing recruitment patterns The reason why they change is they they're changing in a way to make you better at what you do a lot of So if you ride a bike a lot if you run a lot if you sit a lot if you're pregnant Your recruitment patterns will change to make you more efficient at that particular You know, whatever it is you're doing a lot of Um, the problem or the challenge becomes after You have the baby because now you have an old recruitment pattern that benefited you While you were pregnant And you had a you know big belly and now Your your belly goes down and you're not pregnant anymore, but you've got this old pattern So what you need to do is you need to train The pattern to be now more beneficial towards Your body the way it is now and one of the most effective exercises you can do for uh post pregnancy For that is the is vacuums vacuum vacuum poses What a great exercise the other one too is um, and we have videos of this Maybe we'll put it in the show notes. There's a we have video for vacuum We also have a video wall test as well. Yeah wall test and then also, um, you know The the hip flexor deactivator crunches that I showed on that video that one time to get people to activate You know their core which seems it seems very hard, you know Like I know my wife went through this whole process too is like Inactive at all like she couldn't really like even feel anything for a long time in her abs And uh, it it turned off. Yeah, it gets it gets frustrating, but it literally takes like super consistent reps and just like day after day of of really focusing and Trying to localize that area to to activate again and and then sure enough, you know once you get It's a respawn, you know things start to kind of go back to Uh, you know the way they were what did we ever do with that uh pregnancy suit and wig that we Yeah I burned it did you guys are gonna make me wear it Whenever we use that we don't have it. Do we don't have any more Justin no, we should still have it in the Up on the loft there. Really? Yeah, I we should do that. We need to do that pregnancy series Yeah, we were gonna do a whole pregnancy series. We're gonna put Justin in a pregnancy suit and give him a wig. Yeah Why Justin He's got the best cakes I got some some good hips for birthing. I don't know have you got you guys have trained a lot of pregnant All the way up until the day they pop man. Yeah, I think I think it's one of the uh, probably Um, silliest things that I'd hear doctors like tell Tell their uh, their patients right that they oh, you shouldn't exercise. Don't do this. Don't do that I'm like, oh, you're already telling people that are looking for excuses not to do fucking shit And then you it's like it's so easy And it's tough for me to sit by I got family members My sister right now just had a baby and the same thing like They basically prescribed being in bed to her. You know I'm saying I'm like well some cultures. They do that They like you're on bed rest like you can't move like it's interesting It's and then you see the other extreme of that you have like, uh, you know our our girl grace That's in our forum post-in videos of her training pull-ups and yeah, just savage dude And look how amazing she the bounce back and the turnover It's so amazing to watch You know when you when you keep in maintain fitness levels going in the pregnancy What is grace she's on what two or three she's on three kids. I think she has maybe yeah Her body looks bad, dude You wouldn't even know that she had a kid just literally it was like there was a video She posted in the forum where it was like I don't know weeks after and she was like working out And you're like you can't tell she just had a baby. I had The contrast between the clients that I would that I trained who would work out before during and after pregnancy Them versus people who don't do that the difference is dramatic like massive in terms of How they felt during their pregnancy So less back pain less discomfort. They more energy. They felt better and the the their health post pregnancy Like how they felt afterwards and how quickly they bounce back to feeling really really good balances out hormones Better better. It's actually better for the baby. Baby's actually born a little bit leaner They're now showing that there's some studies that suggest and there's nothing concrete But I definitely would place my money that this is the case That women who exercise before during and after Their babies IQs are higher. There's actually some studies that suggest that that may actually Be the case. It's just better health. I think resistance training is the best form Of exercise for pregnant women. I think it's the best form of exercise for a lot of people But especially for pregnant women because resistance training is so moldable Like, you know, if you're a runner, you know at some point you got to stop running if you can't run with weights, man I can I can I can apply weights to I've had paraplegics come in. Oh, yeah me too You know, you can modify and mold resistance training for pretty much anybody And so if you're pregnant and you find like, oh, I can't do that exercise anymore Modify or I can't do that one. It's something you can do. Yeah. Yeah, modify that and you'll find that you're you'll be able to work out Even it, you know, regardless of, you know, how your body's feeling and then post pregnancy You know, all the the you know strengthening of the hips. So the two areas that I would always focus on with pregnant with pregnant women post pregnancy after they had their child when they were cleared was strengthening the transverse abdominis and the core just because that was, you know, inactive When that while they were pregnant and then hips Because they get you start to notice hip dysfunction sometimes just because they've had to push a baby out and Those those areas tend to loosen up anyway And so I will do lots of hip exercises and stuff strengthening So 90 90 and connecting to the different positions of 90 90 Would also be good post pregnancy But I shit man. I said I got known for this especially when I had my studio my wellness studio Is the my clients would have their babies and then they bring their babies in And I would train them with their kids because it was my place. So, you know, babies were We're welcome and many times I would hold the babies and play with them while the mom would work out Or we'd use the baby as resistance So if the mom was doing an overhead press and the baby was getting a little fussy or whatever So we'd have fun and the she you know do overhead presses with the baby and focus on her Her posture or her form or she would do it, you know variations of crunches with the baby on her on her chest and do that kind of stuff and So it was kind of fun and they enjoyed it and for me it was good for business because They didn't stop working out and they continued coming and I developed this great relationship with these people In fact, some of these kids call me uncle sal to this day, which is pretty funny Yeah, because they were in my gym while they were in their mom's womb and afterwards, but Yeah, your your recruitment patterns do change The right kind of training post pregnancy will get them right back to where you want them to be Our next question is from d break three If my strength keeps increasing while i'm following maps anabolic, does that mean my metabolism is also speeding up? You're welcome That's what happens man. That's what's awesome when you're following a great program Right start to build muscle metabolism kicks up. I would feed the beast. I would say strength gains are a pretty good sign That your metabolic rate is increasing. I don't think it's 100 guaranteed, but I don't know. Can you guys think of a more clear sign than that like if I have a client who's You know trying to get leaner And they're losing body fat and they're getting stronger Typically, I'm like, oh cool. Your metabolism is not necessarily adapting to slow down, right? Well, I also say we're in a very I always say we're in a nice sweet spot too I mean, that's where you want to be you want to be in this place where you can actually see yourself Reducing body fat, which is hard right to be in a place where you see your waistline coming down And then you actually see strength going up That's that you are there you're in the sweet spot because if you if you cut too many calories A really good sign that you're cutting too much calories is you see a decrease in strength pretty rapidly afterwards Even if you see the weight loss or the fat loss like you want many times people Overdo it and they cut so much or they over trained to lose the body fat And one of the first signals of that is that you start to lose strength. So somebody who is Losing body fat right and their metabolism speeding up and they see their waistline going down and you see strength going I mean, you're in that you're in that sweet spot man. You've you've honed in on the holy grail Right. Yeah, just keep driving forward strength gains are one of my is my favorite Easiest signal to read with people like if I have somebody who says You know I have um hp axis dysfunction Where the hormones are kind of off or if I have a guy who's You know, does any client really say that hp? I get people like that, you know, probably because I talk about it on the podcast But You know, whatever adrenal fatigue slow metabolism, you know, like, you know, my hormones are off And when I when their strength starts to go up like I know like, okay We're definitely on the the right track now You know, it's funny about this whole metabolism speeding up thing because we talk about it so much About getting your metabolism faster. I also want people to know that Just speeding up your metabolism isn't necessarily A good or great thing. It's not necessarily a bad thing either It's just in the context of modern life You're probably better off with the metabolism that burns more calories, right? Because you're not going to be moving as much You know, modern life is sedentary You're surrounded by all this food all the time hyper palatable food You've brought out that example a few times with that tribe that Yeah, they basically had a slow They didn't burn as many calories As like people that were studying them thought because it wasn't it advantageous towards them You know going on these miles to find food and to to hunt and all that kind of stuff Yeah, the hodza tribe the h a d z a I think it is you can actually look this up But what they did is a they threw pretty sophisticated means tested their metabolic rates and these are modern hunter-gatherers And they thought oh, they're going to be burning, you know, three times as many calories as the average person Right, they're running around everywhere and it wasn't it wasn't that much more. It was actually a small A small amount more and which makes sense the bodies you're going to adapt because you know You can't just have this crazy rowing metabolism all the time when you're You know hunter-gatherer because then you wouldn't have enough food To support little away to nothing. But yeah, if you're if your strength is going up, that's a great Great sign. It's also a great sign that your hormones Are in check. I mean, I don't know adam when you when you were doing the hormone thing Did you notice like I'm sure you notice right a big change in how your strength was restored? Oh, I've been you know, I've obviously since I've started this whole process I get tons of dms probably this is probably one of the most popular thing that I talk about in my dms right now is My metabolism and how I feel on my hormones and my sex drive and all that stuff And you know, all these things that I'm using, you know, I'm using the jew I'm using the infrared We've got our products that we're using with work anify. I've got all these different things I've got the supplements that you were you recommended to me that I've used like I'm doing all this stuff, right and and I think I've Methodically implemented all of them so I can kind of get an idea of how each of them are You know respond one does one. Yeah, which one does what which one's helping me the most And and a lot of them have definitely showed benefits and I and I've Incorporate all of them, but It's like you have all these things right the the red lights the supplements the herbs the diet all the stuff that I think is really helping and then strength training is literally in its league of its own for this And it's almost been a blessing in disguise that this I've gone through all this to really cement this and even my own brain because It it was hard for me to get motivated to to train at that when I was going through all this really really hard It's I've never felt this before where I mean, I love fitness. I love working out and you know, I never felt so unmotivated to get to the drink gym and live some weights with my sex drive my libidos down like crazy My testosterone levels super obviously super low So I've got I don't have that oomph to get inside the gym when I do actually get inside the gym I'm weak. I'm fatigued. I'm tired. It's hard all these things right But what I've recognized and it was really quick It was like the first time I did it like the first like I remember you lifted weights and then you came in the next day And you're like, fuck. Yeah, I was and so and thank god I felt that because that was really what you know made led to day two and then day three and You know so on and so forth where I'm at now And now I'm a little over a month and a half or so Being consistent with my lifting and I'm only training about three days a week right now I haven't ramped up my I just started to kind of slowly ramp up my volume I'm gonna transition into one of our maps programs now I feel like my body's getting ready. It's ready for that to take on that much volume But it was really not that much But the the impact that it made on my hormones was was insane like it's Right away. I started to notice my libido, which is the easiest way for me to measure I'm in a relationship. I can count how many times I want to have sex I can I can pay attention if I even have the desire to masturbate I can see all these things. So for me, that's a very very easy thing for me to To tell when I start adding these things in and when you first gave me those supplements And I was doing the infrared it gave me a nice little bump Like I definitely felt that like the sex drive kicked up a little bit I felt a little better energy a better attitude tiny bit when I started training and started getting really consistent with It's yeah It Katrina was just telling me tonight. I mean she was just like you feel like I feel like you're back to normal right now I'm like, I wouldn't say I'm back to normal yet. You know, I'm not there yet But I feel really good and I definitely attribute 90% of that to the strength training Lifting weights the ultimate aphrodisiac Next question is from Lil Hammy I've been a personal trainer for about seven months now and keep coming across male clients that want to start lifting straight away Even though it's obvious that they're not ready As a female I don't want to emasculate them But I want them to understand the importance of creating proper movement patterns fixing imbalances And that starting from scratch is their best approach I explain this to them, but half the time they just tell me they'd rather just have their asses kicked and put on mass right away What is the best way to explain this to them? This is the eternal struggle. This is tough question actually It doesn't just happen to women Female trainers happens to male trainers We're talking about ego here Well, I have some tips. In fact, I have something that I'm actually going to do for somebody literally today and I already have this plan And I've got this client of mine a female client of mine. Actually, she knows her way around the gym So she's not and she's been training off and on maps for the last two years Uh, but what I know she hasn't been doing and she's getting up and she's in her 30s now Is I know she hasn't been addressing like her imbalances. I know she hasn't been doing good mobility work I know that she needs that and I know that I can give that to her so far I've allowed her just to kind of follow our programs And and getting better shape and by aesthetics, right? We haven't addressed her other issues because I haven't trained her privately Well, she's coming in to see me today. She's a friend of mine And the plan today And and I know and this is my experience talking now Like old me would try and make them do the mobility moves and force them into that and and then hear them afterwards Like well, I really just wanted to get a workout I didn't even get a sweat in and all we did was stuff on the floor and this and that and then Then they don't ever come back again because they've wanted to get there and they go higher Some other trainer who's just going to beat them up And so there's got to you got to find these ways of like kind of Educating them along the way giving them a little bit about they want But then also it educated them at the same time One of the ways that I'll do this with her today is I'll allow I'm going to allow her to get into her a squat right away like whether I will go to squat rack Do your squats and I'm going to let her do a couple sets and I'm going to video her And then after I video her doing some squats I'm then going to take her away And then I'm going to do some work on her that I already know because I've seen her squat And I'm going to make her do some combat stretch work on some 90 90s And then I'm going to do our zone one test with her. That's it just three Even though I know she could use a bunch more I'm going to pick three that I know that are really impactful I know that she's got limiting range on her ankle mobility I know her hips need work and I know for sure She's got a little bit of forward shoulder like almost every fucking client you'll ever get So I'll take those three things and I'm going to do three or four rounds of that And then I'm going to take her back to the squat and then I'm going to have her squat again Show her the contract and then I'm going to show her the contract I'll video it and then together we'll look at it and I'll show her how important that is That I can do that in one fucking visit with me I can show you how much better your body moves And I already know because I've done this a bunch of times That when she gets into that squat and she does it she'll feel better It'll the squat will feel better She'll feel stronger and then I'll be able to take the video of her Which is great that we have these tools that I didn't have when I first started as a trainer And I'll be able to show her look at your movement and I'll pause the video And I'll point out different contact points like where her feet were probably protonating before Where her she's falling forward where her weight was probably shifting to the front of her toes And I can point out all these things and that's all I got to do I think if you do things like that Where you're not telling them they can't get a hard workout Or you can't do these exercises because you technically and I used to do this as a trainer I used to scare people into scare them into the clothes Yes, scare them into the clothes on all the corrective stuff that they do Yeah, it was it was a tactic that I would do to sell them because everybody's dysfunctional Everybody's fucked up somehow and I have the answers to help you Regardless if you just want to lose 30 pounds of fat and look better I know I can teach you all these other things and then I would make people do that I like that even better because yeah My my go-to would be to take them through the mobility and all that and then throw them on the squat But then to see the contrast and then actually have that visual in their head Would be such a more powerful way to break through that ego because the ego They know how much they can lift in that particular exercise, right? So they don't want to They don't want that to go away So, you know for you to be able to kind of point out What's going on with their body and then also like if there's any like Incling of pain, you know from their joints or you know, you're just sort of prompting them with all these Seeds and ideas and of what's going on and then what to feel and like really kind of take them through it It's like winning an argument, right? Like you if you ever heard in an argument or debate with somebody And all you do is go back and argue your points back and forth like nothing ever gets done So there when someone says something even if I don't agree with it like I'm going to let them know that I I understand what they're saying and and then then what I'll do is Absorb that information Go with it for a second and then I'll come back around and I'll explain my point So it's kind of like the same thing that you do in a discussion back and forth with somebody Is I'm not going to tell them that's wrong or that's going to hurt you or that's bad for you Or you can't do that. It's like absolutely you can do that In fact, if you didn't have me you probably go do it on your own because you're already telling me That's what you want to do So I'm going to give you a little bit about you what you want Like I'm going to give you what you want because that's what you're asking for But then I'm going to find another way to come back around and educate you on why you may want to listen to me And go this way because it's almost like can I now show you another way? Yeah, you know like show me yours I'll show you mine. Yeah, I'd say, you know what the scene the scene from uh days of thunder I love right it reminds me of the the struggle that tom cruise has with uh, what's robert robert of all Where he's telling him He's trying to get coach him on how to drive the car and he's he knows because he's a better racer He says listen, this is what we're going to do We're going to run 50 laps the way you want to run 50 laps And then we're going to run 50 laps the way I want to run 50 laps and then he shows them the tires afterwards Here's you you went through fucking way more tires We were here's me and we shaved two minutes off of our time or whatever was so same thing Here's the other thing too. You want to you want to always keep this in mind when people hire you To train them they're you're the expert. Okay, so and this is why this is important understand and I used to see this More so with female clients training male clients in the reverse and I think again It's because in like this situation, you know, you've got the guy with the big strong ego You're the female trainer and you may feel less confident Uh in what you're saying so remember you're the expert and be confident in what you're saying People clients actually like it for the most part when a trainer says something like Listen, I know what I'm doing. We're going to do it my way Sometimes a lot of times people like that because they want to kind of give up and give in give the control away and say, okay You're the trainer. I'll just do what you want. So speak with authority Speak with confidence sell what you're trying to sell in this case. You're trying to sell You know Correctional movement patterns. So know what you're talking about so you can sell it Well, you may want to use some examples like adam was describing where you show them The difference between doing it one way and doing the other and then sell and show look This is why we're going to do it this way because if you move better, you're going to build more muscle If you move better, you're going to get stronger eventually then you will Move in the wrong way. I know what I'm talking about. I'm the trainer Let's we're going to do it my way and and people a lot of times will respond well To that kind of confidence But it's look at this this happens to all trainers happens to happen to me all the time where I get, you know Male female client doesn't matter and they'll come in and be like I just want to lose 30 pounds I just want to work out and get real sweaty and get real sore And then I'd sit down and say look here's the get here's the deal I can do that for you But here's what's going to happen as a result of it or We can do it this way in which it'll take a little longer at first But it'll stay off. You'll feel better. You'll have more muscle and you'll have a faster metabolism at the end of it So are you going to trust me or is or are you going to do this your own way? In which case I ask you why'd you hire me in the first place and I'm clients like to hear that kind of confidence So be very confident in what you're saying Show them that you have some authority Explain what's going on and tell them how you're going to do it and how you're going to train them Sell it well and usually you'll be okay And then very sometimes you won't be sometimes the client will be like no I want to do it this way in which case then you got to make the decision Whether or not you should train them or not and I've there's been a couple times not very many But a couple times where I've taken a client and said well in which case I'm not going to train you actually One client in the times of the whole time I owned my my personal training studio Was was only one time that I have somebody who I told them I'd stop training them and they were just Fucked there was no way they were going to do What I was telling them but every other time I've had this these types of debates with people And you know with women it's the opposite I think sometimes I'll have female clients that don't want to lift heavier because they're scared of you know building muscle But you get the guys who want to put too much weight on the bar I always communicate to people like this too like I speak in like For in general for a lack of a better word right when I'm speaking to them I go You know most people when they train they want to do you know I'm saying but I'm really talking to them Right, so I'm talking. I had a client once that yeah, right So I do that a lot of times versus attacking them on their idea or what they want from you because if you do that They're going to put a wall up and then they're not going to be receptive So, you know when someone tells me I just want to get my ass to go. So yeah, yeah, don't worry We're going to kick some ass. I promise you you know I'm saying so we're going to kick some ass for sure And then I tell then I'll then I'll come back around and kind of tell them like oh man A lot of times when I get clients, you know, they want to come in they want to train really hard And these are the things that happen and this is why why you don't want to do that And this is why this is a better approach and so you educate like that versus getting into a debate on them And what they want to do with they're wrong. You're right. It's like no go ahead and agree with what they're saying Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah And then come back around and I speak to them in like general like I said like where I'm just talking to them as You know most people or you know lots of people that I train like want this and this is why it's not a good idea Another thing that's Very powerful and it's understated is setting the stage So what I mean by that is client hires you you sit down before you're going to go work out and you say, okay What are your goals? You know, let's say he says my goal is to build a lot of muscles excellent You know, that's one of my specialties now. Here's what we're going to do We're going to focus on this first because if I can get you to have good recruitment patterns We're going to get way more out of the exercises and you'll build way more So break it down and explain them before you go out on the workout floor because this is a tough It's a tough discussion to have On the workout floor like I'm taking you out and the guy's saying oh I want to add more weight and then you're going to have this discussion or ask a simple question Like are you are you looking just to lose as much weight as we can in the next seven weeks? Or do you want to set you want me to set you up for lifetime fitness? Like forever like do you want to be healthy and fit forever? Or you just want me real quick to get you in the most shape we can in seven weeks Because there is some truth to that like if I only got a few weeks with somebody and all they care about is as Much we can we burn as much of this and do that like you're right in in a small window a small study of four weeks I mean, absolutely you could you could do a lot more than what I would probably do with you for sure And so if that's all you care about like well, then let's do that Just let I just want to let you know though if you want long term results It's going to look more like this and then you explain why absolutely So go to our show notes and sign up for our uh, what is our vent at veori in insinitas on what's the date there may 10th May 10th go sign up for it first come first serve Thank you for listening to mine pump if your goal is to build and shape your body Dramatically improve your health and energy and maximize your overall performance Check out our discounted rgb super bundle at mine pump media dot com The rgb super bundle includes maps anabolic maps performance and maps aesthetic Nine months of phased expert exercise programming designed by sal adam and justin to systematically Transform the way your body looks feels and performs with detailed workout blueprints and over 200 videos The rgb super bundle is like having sal adam and justin as your own personal trainers But at a fraction of the price the rgb super bundle has a full 30 day money back guarantee And you can get it now plus other valuable free resources at mine pump media dot com If you enjoy this show, please share the love by leaving us a five star rating and review on itunes And by introducing mine pump to your friends and family We thank you for your support and until next time. 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