 Hello everybody, if it's Saturday and we're here, it must be because it happened. We got the announcement age of Sigmar 3.0, the most expected and yet still welcome announcement we've had that we knew was coming. And Tom, your initial reactions, oh goodness, as I have to be myself over here. I mean, I guess I'll start with, I called it. Sure, as did everybody. Yes, we all used the power of common sense. Yes, exactly. Well, I mean, that was nine months ago, but sure. Like anybody who thought this reveal before today was going to be anything except AOS 3.0 was deluding yourself. They announced these addition changes about eight weeks in advance because they have an eight-week hype cycle for them. This is the big event. They're not going to announce it in a random community article, right? They weren't going to do another one next week or the week after that, so they need the time to get it. So this was the obvious weekend it had to happen. Just like last time we got AOS 2.0 at Warhammer Fest. There we go. So at any rate, yes, we got it. I'm going to let this video play while we're talking. Yeah. I mean, I'm super stoked. Like everything we saw, I love. Some of it, I love more than other. I'm super excited for like, man, that angel. Oh, yeah. Androssa. Let's just bring her up right now. I love her. She's everything that I wanted. This is where I'm living. Are you freaking kidding me over here with this? Right. So good. So good. And Vintas has an entire army of like feather, angel, wing, storm cast. I did. Yeah. It's been retired, but yes, I still have it. We'll play this video of her. Sorry. There we go. Yeah. It's just, yeah, it looks really good. It does. She's incredible. Can't wait to get my hands on her. Like the exciting part for me is I've been wanting to do this rat cast, you know, Skaven, Sigmar, redeemed Skaven, storm cast army for a long time. Clearly we have the best example here now to do it like, yep, we're in. This is happening. We're good. So now I know what my new army project is for the summer and I'm excited. You're going to do a rat cast. You're going to do the rat cast. Yep. Skig's rat cast. Yes. It's going to be winged. Is that going to be Skig? I don't know. I don't know. We'll have to see. We'll have to see what the total thing looks like. We clearly haven't seen all of it yet. Yeah. I was just hoping that we got the Sisters of Sigmar call out. As soon as I saw her, I was like, oh, is it? But maybe those are part of the Order of Aesir. Maybe the Sisters of Sigmar is like an actual human, but yeah. So I'm super stoked by the reveals that we got. As am I. Let's go through each of these in turn. So we'll start with the Angel. She's what's up on screen right now. You'd hear us or whatever her name is. Yindrasta. Sorry if that's her name, Yindrasta. And she's absolutely great. Not only is that art that around her is incredible, I really love the design on the new armor. Let's talk of pure aesthetics for a minute. We know we're taking place a lot in the realm of Gerr. She's a monster hunter. They've said that she's big and she's like a prime level, like the Celestin prime level leader amongst the Stormcast. They did also say that she'll show up in other armies, that she transcends the Order Alliance. So my guess is she'll have a rule much like we've seen kind of scattered around lately with Cragnos and with the Twins in Lumeneth, where they can kind of be in any part of their Grand Alliance. Which is very funny to me, because there were some people who were like, oh, they're going to get rid of Grand Alliances in AOS 3.0. Those are gone. And instead they're like, no, no, no, wrong answer. We're going to turn into it harder. Like we're hand-breaking into the Grand Alliances, right? Like they were never getting rid of those because they're such a good framing device. But. And I wonder if, like I will say that what we've seen in the most recent book releases is that allies seem to have been heavily restricted. Like the number of armies that another army can ally with seems to be being limited more and more the farther we go. And so I think that units like this, like Cragnos, will become more important in that world. Yeah. Captain Athenatheno says, do you feel they missed a glorious chance by not making the new sect Valkyrie? Who knows? We don't have Valkyrie coming yet, buddy. I'm not sure this is all of it. So maybe she has her own elite guard that are more winged Stormcodes. So I couldn't be in fast enough, OK, if that was the case. Right. You've wanted true angels for a very long time. For a very long time. It would have made me buy Lumeneth if they made Angel Elves. Like I've said that on repeated occasions and I stand behind it. The new armor design is really good. It has a different shape to it. The plates are in different positions. The integration with the scale mail is a lot different. It looks more flexible. It does. Yeah. And just like the volumes as they're identified on here are just a lot better. I really like the way that they've constructed the armor out of the various pieces. And it feels, one, like it'll be a real pleasure to paint. Two, like it'll still be good for newer painters like there's stuff here that this doesn't seem like it's. It seems like they're preserving this more than what they did with Sacrosanct. Honestly, when I looked at Sacrosanct, I thought they actually made it harder for newer painters with Stormcast, right? Because they have like a lot of junk going on, is the best way I can describe it, right? There are bibles and bobbles and all that stuff everywhere. These are a little sleeker, a little more form-fitting as we'll see as we get into it, right? But they preserved the fundamental like ease of this is going to be both friendly for new painters and really shine in the hands of an adept painter. And I think that's crap. That's what you want out of your main line, right? Yep. So I'm there for it. I'm here for her 100%, her base clearly speaking to the fact that the story is gonna take place in the realm of Gur, right? So this swampy sort of base. Okay, yep, so we got a couple more shots of her. She looks great. They mentioned this symbol is a call-out. I didn't have time to research what that symbol is for. So if somebody in the audience already looked and researched what this symbol is for or where it gets mentioned, I'm sure it's in one of the books somewhere. But I didn't get a chance to go dig because I didn't have time before we went live. But if somebody out there has or knows, please say I am interested. But yeah, love the feathers, love her. She has a great face, beautiful shape, wonderful. Fantastic. A plus, like again, sculpted it, just great. Okay, so then we got the other guys. So we started with this one. This is our new vindicators who are in Thunderstrike armor. I'm just gonna stop, I'm just gonna sit right here instead of on the video because I think this is actually a good shot. This is sort of the most static of the poses. It is, this guy's kind of just standing with his spear at rest. What's your take on these guys? I like them. The first time I saw them, I love the little skirts. I like the variation in texture. I like the larger shields. That all feels great. It's interesting. I know for me, I actually like the static pose. But I know that that's something that we've had conversation about that you actually prefer some of the other ones for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I really like this new design. Okay, a couple of things about it I like. I love the pauldron design a lot better, the shoulder pauldron a lot better. Although it's gonna catch, it's gonna catch a sword into your neck. Well, you're telling you if they hit in here, sure. I mean, technically their gorget should be a little tighter, but they don't do that because it would be really hard to paint then and hard to model, so it's hard to fit heads into. Indeed. But yes, you're right. But I like the shoulder design. I like the not being completely surrounded by the metal, so we don't have the brocade going all the way around. It's now just up on the top. I like the more rounded shape of it with the flourish on the outside. Yeah, I think that's really nice. I just love the sleek form a lot better, like the sort of faux muscle shape, I think looks good. I think these guys would look really awesome with capes. Somebody mentioned that in the chat that they need capes. I think this would, if you gave this design a cape or a half cape or something, I think it would just be really banging, like right there. Well, we can trust Steve Herner to produce those for us. Absolutely. The only part I don't like is the shield, honest answer. Really? Yeah. Oh, I love the longer, kind of like the longer Tomb Kings-esque shield because like, if you remember Tomb Kings, they had like the larger fan top and had the divots in and then the longer bottom. Oh, I still have a lot of those shields, Tom, like a lot. I do, I do too. I have like 150, but I don't know, I like them. I like it as a whole. What don't you like about it? Let me ask that. The only thing I don't like is the shield, honest answer. What don't you like about the shield? Oh, just the shape of it doesn't read as true to me. I'm not sure about the Sigmar face on there. It's like, it's so taken up with space. I kind of liked the hammer and lightning bolt design because I could ground it off a lot easier up and make them flat and then do freehand on them. It feels like it should be a little longer. Like it doesn't, it feels like it should be maybe like a quarter inch longer on the model, probably. Like it just felt a little short. But again, that's not like a huge deal breaker. It doesn't matter. I'm not like, oh no, their model's ruined for me because I don't quite love the shield. I think you could use the old brown shields if you could get your hands on them. Remember when they made those kits? I mean, those notches are for the spears. Yeah, I understand. I get the functionality of it, right? But I don't care at the same time. Sure, sure. It's like, I'm not worried about the functionality of my lightning-powered, God-forged, superhuman soldiers, right? Like I'm good with it. The elves need a little holdy thing to hold their spear because they're weak little elves. The storm cast can one hand a spear without issue because, you know- I mean, the guy we're gonna look here in a minute can definitely one hand a hammer. Yes, indeed. So, you know, like ultimately, a shield swap is an easy thing to do. You could just use the classic storm cast shields and like, if you really love them. I think I just really love the clat. Like I think the storm cast shield that their original one was really a almost perfect design. It was very iconic. Yeah, exactly. Like it just, it has that shape I really like. I don't know. That's just me, right? I can see it. Yeah. Again, this is not, the overall, the model itself is so much better. I honestly wish this is how storm cast had looked when they first launched. This would have been the perfect design. Like the, they feel- Regal? Yes, absolutely. Like there's sort of a little bit of Greek hop light in here. Yeah. There's sort of a little bit of a much more like, they feel more agile, but still heavy at the same time. Yeah. And I just, I really like the way that they re-sculpted the chest plate. It has a better angularity to it now. This is all minor stuff, but it's just things that caught my attention. Anyways, these guys are great. I want to take a look because at these, because we clearly have other poses. This is the worst angle for this. I think this figure will actually look really good, but I think this is a terrible angle for this one. Like they need to work on their golden angle photography a little more. Like this guy with the spear down in the vindicator color or whatever. The animals of the Heldenhammer. This is my favorite one right here. She looks so good. I love that we're going to have mixed female and male kits. Clearly, this is what this is saying. And as well as we'll see, we're going to get some non-armored head options as well. I hope we get lots of them. Honestly, I would love to open up a box of five of these and find like a dozen heads, 15 heads. Like just go nuts. As they showed with the, like this is completely non sequitur, but did you see yesterday with the 40K reveal how they're putting in a new, they're just sliding through into the KD entrance. And if you look at those heads, I mean it's like what, 20 heads in that box for 10 dudes? Like that's what I want. Yes, agreed, agreed. Where you can really like pick sort of what you want your folks to be. Yeah, I think that it's just, it's a big deal. Like humans are trained to look at faces, right? She's my favorite. Love the spear down, shield up, good angles. Ah, she looks great. Yeah, this is my favorite one. Looks like she's about to do some work. This guy is also fantastic. Beautiful, like love the head of the non helmed head. This is the, this is the non helmed head guy with the African-American skin tone painted on him. The, I don't, which, what white, the name is escaping me, the white armor scheme. Doesn't matter. Not the celestial vindicators. It is the, it's always blood spattered. It's always, uh... Yeah, they're the, they're the zealotous ones. Yes, I know, I know. It doesn't matter. Yeah. Anyways, one of the things... Hit it into the comments below. Sure, I'm, people are gonna say it. Hollowed Knights, thank you. No, Hollowed Knights are the silver ones. Oh, you're right. Yeah, yeah, that is. Trust me, because that's my scheme. Like my scheme is the Hollowed Knights. Yeah, it's the silver and you're right. It's not the white one. There it is, Martin coming in. Knights Excelsior. There it is. Thank you, Mark. Okay, love this guy. Love his pose. It's definitely my second favorite of the whole bunch. Also, it shows how much different the, just using the gold and minimal amounts, like on the scales. Yeah. Like, look how much different that looks. It looks so good. Like, which is why, which is why I like my Hollowed Knights. Because they're almost all silver with a little bit of touch gold here and there. Yeah, it looks good. This scheme looks so good on this armor. Yeah. Right? Nice edges that they scuffed up, like you can see where they did sort of the, like scuffing and dirt effects there, a little bit of chipping and stuff. Yup. Yeah, so good. I'm in for this guy. So how about that gold, Vince? The gold that looks pretty good to me. It does not. It looks like horrible pigment and for see from space orange gold. It's bad, but it'll look really good when you have an actual good metal paint. Like part of the problem that they have to go with, did you watch the reveal video where they're showing the model close up? I was like, I was blinded by the glitter of the pigment. I'm just like, God, your model reveals would look so much better if you would just make a good metal paint. But they refuse and so here we are. But put a good metal paint on these guys and they're gonna look fantastic. Well, it looks like the metal has texture. Yes, it does. You're not wrong. Boy, howdy. So at any rate, yeah, these guys are fantastic. I just, the regular gold scheme doesn't do it for me. The regular Hammers of Sigmar scheme has never been the thing I liked, so. Sure. So let's see. Do you use Vallejo gold metal color vins? I use, yes, I use the either Vallejo metal color or gold copper. He has a special mix. Or now I've actually created a brand new mix, which is gold plus copper plus some of the Green Stuff World Pure Pigment antique gold and oh baby boy is it. That's good. Anywho, yeah, vindicators are awesome. Love them. They have the Thunder Strike Armor. We should talk about what this armor is. We talked about the aesthetics of it. This is to punch through the cloud, which leads to a, like this leads to all of these new storm casts. So the Thunder Strike Armor now explodes. Do these guys do immortal wounds on death, Tom? I mean, I hope not. I'm just saying. And I only say that from a like, I prefer to stay away from religious zealots exploding and killing all those around them, like themes. That feels like a thing they could walk into though and not have put that together. Yeah. So I hope that they're not a suicide storm cast, but we might be there. Sure. So the armor is explosive in that it's meant to empower their soul to get through the cloud that's been spreading from Shimon and into the other realms, right? Yep, yep. Yes, not that particular. Owen said, do you have a hobby cheating episode for your gold recipe? Not for that particular recipe I've been using recently, but it's, if you look at how I use the pure metal pigment, you can use just that too. And that I have a G video on. Okay. So the Thunder Strike Armor's meant to propel Bellicorps, propel their soul through Bellicorps cloud. And they said, it doesn't work every time, but it works most of the time. So they can actually reforge, which is good. And that led to a huge reveal, Tom, that you had to be excited about. He's back. Who's back, Tom? Grungy. That's right. Yeah, we've talked about this. Yes. This is happening. Grungy is back. We were talking about him as an absentee father and where he got left off at the end of Bellicorps when we did our Bellicorps review because he does feature in that story. And guess what? He's back. He's back. Right. Which, you know what that means, right? Mood Warfuck. Sure. Mood Warfuck. Mood Warfuck. Yes. Thank you. Yes, as Anthony mentioned, I guess I do use the recipe in today's video. So there you go. You can check out today's video about Blangitu. I forgot I used it in that. So thank you. Okay. So yeah, Grungy, man, he's ready to move up. He's trying to get out of the bottom of tier three. He's all ready. He's bringing his people together. He's going to get some power armor out there, you know, get the rest of his dwarves all souped up, bring the fire slayers in, you know, try to help them out. All I'll say is if I would have known he was making these awesome new storm cast to defeat the cloud, I might have moved him up a spot in the God ranking. So all like the point being that people can move quickly on the God rankings. Yeah. I'm excited. Like I love that he's back in the narrative, which means that we may be at a spot where, like I've said this before, like I've said this as early as last a year ago, January. So a year, almost a year and a half ago, we talked about how there were references to the reforming of a new nation, like a new unified dwarven people. And there's been hints of this return of Grungy for a while. So yeah. So very excited. He's back in what that, that Harold's obviously he helped Sigma create the original anvil of apotheosis upon which the storm cast are built and able to be reforged. So that is super cool. As was mentioned, this is heralding the age of destruction, but also the age of order, right? Like both are pushing out simultaneously and inevitably clashing into each other as order is on a big push to, you know, really remove chaos from the realms. So there's this big move. Well, it's interesting. Like as we watched the video and I, you know, listening to them talk about it, it really feels like we are, they are like darkening the realms. Sure. They really are honing in on the fact that chaos and other bad things control a lot of the territory. Yeah. Like, and it's not that like it was not dark before, but I think what they're trying to really tease out is that like the hold of Sigma and the cities and all that, the allies, that's all still very tenuous. Sure. It's something that has to be fought for. It's not something that's there by default. It's not, yeah, it's exactly. And so I like, they showed the new cover of the book and I actually like it. Like it shows just truly how fallen, how like, how troublesome the realms still are. Like in no way are these places tamed. Yeah, sure. Absolutely. I mean, I'm sure that varies realm to realm, right? As you get into the individual ones, like as far as we know, Wulgu is like one of the least tainted chaos realms, right? Because the combination. And seemingly the least occupied by like cities and Sigma folks too. Correct, yeah. Like the other than basically the one city we know about, it's very much, the problem is like, Malaria and Marathi together have kept a really like iron grip on their realm of shadows and chaos can't really penetrate it as well. Not the art footholds, but they're kind of fighting the opposite battle there. Whereas some realms like Gur or Akshi or Gairan, right? You've got a lot of chaos mixed in with a lot of other bad guys. It's probably why we haven't seen a whole lot of Eshin. They're all hanging out on Wulgu. Just like making their way through the fog. Yeah, exactly. Just being themselves. So very exciting stuff there. We'll talk more about kind of what they said about the book and the coming of the edition here in a minute, but I want to get through the rest of the Stormcast models, which we also got this guy, the first of a whole unit. This is a unit of Paladins. So this is your retributors and that level of people, evocators, all of those are broadly construed as Paladins. So you're sort of three wound Sigma troops. Your shock troops, if you will. Yeah, absolutely. This guy's amazing. I love him. And I love the lion chest. What you recently on a show, somebody mentioned, I wish they did the lion chest more as just like a regular iconography of the chest blade. I did. Yeah, it was because the Celestan has the lion on it. We were talking about Gardis. That's when it came up, right? Right, I think so. And I love the lion iconography, not surprising. And I just wish they would do more of it. And so I've seen this, I was super. It's one of the first things that grabbed me when I looked at the model. I was like, yes, we have new Lion Halberts back. Yeah. Again, I think these guys would look awesome with cloaks. Let me just say that out like anytime, like it's a good time, green stuff cloaks are not hard to do. So check it out. But at any rate, this guy does have a two up save base. They did mention that in the article and in the video. And they hit like a truck was basically what they said. These are now will now colloquially be known as Dugs. It's because they're two plus tough. Because they're two plus tough. That's exactly right. Absolutely. Those Dugs look great. They do. All the Dugs look fantastic. Everybody should absolutely tweet at Dug and say they love the new model that they based off of him. He'll really enjoy that, I'm sure. You're welcome, Doug. Yeah. Yeah, excited for these guys. Like clearly we're getting new ranks of all of these things. I'm always glad to see this kind of stuff. I can't wait to put a scaven head on top of that. I think that's going to be fantastic. And yeah, it's going to be great. Do you reform the lion face to be scaveny? Yeah, it's not that far off. It's really not that far off. Like if the nose didn't go up. Yeah. If you were able to just file that down. Actually, I think you just need to thin it down. That's what I'm saying. I think you'd be real close to a scaven ball in the front, which would be adorable. Absolutely. The number of ways this guy is going to get to one plus is pretty good. Pretty good. Well, we don't know that. We don't know that everything continue. If ever. I hear what you're saying. Yeah, yeah. We don't know that. Mystic Shield is back to plus one, just plus one to save. And there is a reaction that you can plus one to save. So that's true. And we know that there's a new reaction coming that's plus one. It's interesting. I wonder, you know, we were talking about that. I wonder if they're going to limit rend. Is rend as a penalty to your save? I doubt it would be my answer. I would doubt it as well. But the way that it's been written in prior editions, it's a penalty to your save roll. Sure. So I was thinking about that the other day. I didn't bring it up, but. No, we have not talked about the new bad guys yet. We'll get there, don't worry. We're just going through the sculpts first. We will get there. There's actually a lot in this. Tom and I mentioned it at the beginning. Oh, he's a slightly different metaphor than I did with you, Tom, but. Oh, come on. Tom and I mentioned, he was like, I don't know, man. It was good. It was a good reveal, but I don't know. And I said, I said, it was. I just said, I wish there had been more. Right. And I said, the only reason you think that is because you expected AOS 3 and you got what you expected. It's like if you go to a nice restaurant and expect a really good meal, and then you have the meal. And it is really great. And you're like, yeah, OK, that was really great. It was what I expected. That doesn't make it not a great meal. It just means it met your expectations. If you had had no concept, they were going to announce AOS 3 before today. It would have been like, whoa, what? Holy crap, but we've been talking about it for two months. That it's going to be this thing. So anyways, yeah, excited for the annihilators. OK. So let's talk about I'm not going to play the interview because it's not going to, shall I say, things I'm not going to listen to it. So we'll talk about the launch box here and the rules. They mentioned some rules things, things I'm very happy about. One, we're keeping the priority rule, OK? Yep. And two, they're changing the way priority works. So if you end up going second, you command points will be awarded at the top of the battle round. That's basically what we've heard as a rumor, OK? Right, right. And that was discussed before. And now we know that if you go second, you get more command points, OK? Which is really interesting. Which is really interesting, but at the same time, like that I don't, I guess maybe the removing objective going into turn three, but like it just made the turn two into turn three really problematic. Originally, if you had bottom of two and top of three, it would seal most games. It was certainly a power turn, yes. Yes, it was a power turn. And so it would just be really interesting to see how that, you know, how that what the breakdown ends up being. Sure. I think that's really good. I love the idea of changing the way that the changing up the incentive structure for choosing on priority. I think that's fantastic. So like that is a very good change. You know, if I had to guess what they'll do, it'll be like you get your normal one command point if you go first, but if you go second, you get to get to something like that. That would be sort of a sensible way to do this. Because you have a flow of how where the battle is going. So you can prepare accordingly. Right. And as well, like think about what that means knowing that we have these reaction command points, right? It actually means you're probably doing a lot more in the enemy turn, right? If you're responding with a plus one to save when you get attacked or like a sort of stand and shoot type of thing, right? That means you actually have a lot more agency by getting command points at the top of the battle round, right? Even if it's the other person's turn. Like oftentimes it will incentivize people to take the bottom because they will have like all their buffs up from the prior turn and now a bunch of command points that they're sitting on to buff, you know, to receive charges. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Like there can, I think it will really, really dramatically change the incentive structure for like turn priority and what your pick and win and make you really think about it, which I'm excited about. You know, they said a lot of they said that they had gone through and really tried to that they're really trying to like refine the game down and that this will be the best addition ever. I tend to believe them. I think that like they have to have learned so much over the past. I think we're going to get a really, really solid addition. I really do. And then the other thing they mentioned was the coming, as we previously talked, they confirmed it, of the core battalions, the core battalions are coming. And so we know that the War Scroll battalions are going away and that we're getting these new base battalions. Obviously a lot more to know on that. I'm excited about it to see what happens. So we'll see. I'm skeptical. Sure. Fair enough. I mean, it's a lot of devil in the details there. My favorite part of every new book was almost always battalions because that's really often where power would lie. And so now that's not going to be the case. Sure. And I think that like at the same time, I'm actually probably better with that. Because again, like battalions have always been suckly balanced and extremely and equitously distributed. I just want to see them. Like I want to make sure that the people who suffer the most harm here, which are, as I've said many times, like BOC and a couple of people like that get taken care of in some way. As long as that happens, I'm OK. Well, it should free up some page space in books. Sure. Yeah. I mean, how many times have we had to review a book and go, well, there's one kind of OK battalion? Well, that means we're probably not going to get the super terrible megabitimes anymore. Hey, there you go. No, Tom, they'll still print them. They're just for narrative only now. How would it be even worse for you? You're probably right. Right. And you know where they're going to put it? Right after the allegiance rolls, but before the actual war scrolls. So you're going to have this whole section of unusable material. Like it's not only going to be the skirmish-based game that sits in the middle of the usable content for match play. It's also going to be battalions now. You're going to have to flip past all of that. It's going to be great. So I'm very excited for this next edition. I really am. They said they're going to do a couple more shows over the next two months. I have two or three more shows over the next two months. Two. They're going to do two in the next month, they said. OK. So probably one more in a couple of weeks in May and then one in early June. I would guess. And then we'll be into full on getting ready for the launch at any time you're getting in July. Yeah. Right. Yep. So probably about eight weeks is what I would guess. Their standard hype cycle for a new edition is an eight-week cycle. They kind of have this down. Like there's a marketing team. That marketing team has strategies and core documents and artifacts and things you use. Like this is how companies work. They don't just sit around and go, when do we want to launch? It's still a company behind all of this, right? And my guess is at this point they've kind of got it down to a science. They have a set of like, they have a launch plan. Like somewhere I guarantee in the marketing and product management department, there is a launch plan document with a racy chart that shows all the different roles and what they have to do in the eight weeks leading up to it. I can picture the project plan box in my head. Like it's going to look exactly like what I deal with every day at work. Right? Yep. So good stuff there. Okay, let's talk about the opponents. So we know we're getting a new launch box, a duh. We knew that because, again, common sense. As they said, like when we do this, we always do a big launch box, right? Like, yeah, we know you like to make money. I'm cool with it. It's good. We all like the launch boxes too, right? It's a good give and take, right? That's sort of what it's supposed to be like. Hopefully they print enough of these. We know the new Stormcast are going to be half of it, right? That's no questions there. Do you think the address will be half of it? Yeah, I don't know. That's a question, right? Is she going to be in the new launch box? I don't think so. I imagine they'll do our separate as well, but we'll see. We'll see. Okay. And so then who are our other opponents? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe not. Because they said that they wanted the herd, she'll be bigger than the army. Sure. And so if they put in the launch box, it would incentivize people to buy the launch box because everybody can use her. Yeah, that's a good point. That's a good point. Yeah, people just wanting to get that sweet angel. I'm all about it. So Tom, I'm just letting the video play here as we're talking, okay? And as it pulls back, you see a lot of eyes in the dark, right? One moon circles. So Tom, who are the new breed of evil in the dark? Crabnose. Yes, clearly. The age of Crabnose is upon us. All of the crabs. It's Orkey Goblin, sneaky, sneaky. Yeah, it's sneaky orcs, right? Mid-range sneaky orcs inspired probably by Femir, swamp-dwelling things. You might see a couple with like, like it's not going to be actually Femir, like if people clearly want. I love people's dedication to this. Like it will be, but they'll clearly draw on those aesthetics, right? Maybe we'll see some orcs with tails. Maybe we'll see some one-eyed orcs. They're aspects of the Femir story that's problematic. Like so they're not going to pull them in because of the lore stuff. Sure. Because like they are, that's, yeah, that's a PR nightmare. Yeah, I think you'll see like, like when you look, so what, let's go back here. Yeah. Let's actually see if we can go too far, too far, too far. Okay. You can see how like it looks like some of the little red eyes glowing are two eyes and some of the little red eyes glowing might be one eye. It's hard to tell. Are those eyes though? One would assume. It's red eyes in the dark. That's kind of the classic thing. I mean, that's the classic thing, but I realize I don't know that that's what that is. So. Sure. I would assume it is. But at any rate, yeah, I mean, my feeling is we're talking about, you know, sneaky, femur inspired orcs. So this is the sneaky, femur inspired orcs. So here's the, what I'll add. I suspect that maybe we have an evolution of spider fang. Okay. That the goblins that are associated with these sneaky orcs, maybe spider fang. Because like this all just echoes like, yeah. So that's the first thing I'm gonna go on record is saying. The second thing is, who is the female voice? Oh, I don't know. Somebody just reading a story. I don't know that it's supposed to be anybody. It was just really curious to me because like I don't think it was a Marathi voice factorist. But it just, it struck me as like, that's the only thing that gives me pause. Let me say that, just saying it's orcs is because it seems like that the individual that's reading may actually be associated with the villainy. The taunting, the kind of the taunting mocking voice. That said, it does say at the end of the video, a new breed emerges which would suggest to me that it's like another, we have a known breed and a new breed which again points to me towards the orc-y stuff. Yeah, it's gonna be sneaky, sneaky, like femur type inspired like swamp type stealthy orcs. And I think we already got a hint of this in the Cragnos video where you saw those kinds of orcs that didn't look like any of the orcs we really had sort of worshipping Cragnos, right? This is gonna be like the little hidden ones that are drawn out of their hiding by, by Cragnos becoming a merchant. Like it's gonna be destruction. By the way, people who are like, it's not Skaven? No, it's not Skaven. Like Cragnos is the Herald of destruction. This is the age of destruction. They're not putting Skaven in the launch box when it's destruction, destruction, destruction, destruction. Like I'm sorry, everybody. We are in GER. I, yeah, we're in GER. Like I wish it was Skaven too, but it's not. Okay, so, so yeah, there you go. Yeah, it'll be, it'll be the new, it'll be these like these things. I believe me, no one wishes more than me. It was Skaven, but it's not. Okay. The, yeah, I mean, I'm happy for that. I think we'll get, they'll probably shoot for like a different type of orc and sort of expand that out and make them their own new force. They'll probably be more distrustful, xenophobic, that kind of thing, right? They kind of keep to themselves and they don't clean up as much as the other orcs who kind of like get into a big scrap, right? They'll be more morc focused than gork focused, right? It'll be the cunning but brutal. So yeah, I mean, that feels like the, probably the way that they'll go. That's the point. Yep. So yeah, I mean, yes, as Steve Keane says, Phil Kelly literally said it was the age of the beast totally destruction. Yes, the era of the beast is upon us, right? So yeah, yep. Don't get me wrong, I think we will within this cycle, like within this AOS three cycle, at some point to get a refreshed scaven line. I really do. I think that they will draw on some- There was a, there's a molder pit. Yeah, in Inger, yeah, yeah, they have enough. Like in Inger, yeah. Mm-hmm, yep. I mean, there's a lot of things on that map. Like yes, there is a molder map. There's also nine ogre locations on that map. Okay, so. I love the ravenids area. I don't know, you saw? Yeah. It's like, tell me more. So, the, why not, why the assumption is sneaky orcs and not a beastmen variant? Well, beastmen are chaos, not destruction. So that would be one. Two, because we've heard from multiple sources and rumors that there's going to be some new, that orcs and some variety are the other half of this launch box. Like that has been something that has been shared by multiple different sources, right? And so like it comes from enough different sources. I tend to think that they're probably onto something there. It would make sense that it has to be destruction focused. And so like the question in my mind is really like, the only question in my mind with this is how much do they lean into the sort of femur-ish aesthetic with these swamp orc races, right? Like aren't they going to be mutated with one eye? Yeah, or something like that, right? Or have big tails, big clubby tails and stuff like that. It will be, they'll still be orcs at the base, but is the question is do we have that thing? I suppose they could be like some take of like Hopgoblin or something like that. Again, I don't know that there's really some distinction. AOS doesn't have that distinction like or Warhammer in general doesn't have that distinction like say D&D does or something, right? So it's hard to say, but yeah, I'm sure we'll know more on the next show. Right, like they're coming back in two or three weeks or whatever to do another show. I would guess that's where they start to see it. I think the next one at the end of May will be Eisenhorn and then I think we'll get the actual big reveal and it's all of its orc-y glory in the beginning of June. I would be shocked, Tom, I just don't like, let me tell you why I don't buy that. Like sure, I don't doubt that they would probably also talk about the Eisenhorn thing if that's coming or whatever. Like they'll just do a standard show where they cover multiple topics, right? But like there is no way they're going to, in a launch cycle like this, the word is traction. Okay, as in 30,000 people watching today, we're doing a show, a lot of you know, thousands of people are going to watch, right? All these people are sharing it on Facebook. There's still going to be a ton of people tomorrow who play this game, who have no idea AOS 3 is coming. Right, right. Okay, just the reality of the thing. So you have to, like part of their strategy is you got to build hype and you got to create inflection points where people want to share and talk about stuff, right? And you give them something new to share and talk about. And so that preview or whatever that they do, the preview show that they do in two, three weeks, that's when I would guess we'll see the destruction force or something about it. The next one would probably be when they deep dive a little more into AOS 3 rulesy type stuff, right? And talk about more things in the setting. They would do a mix of like, here's what the updated setting looks like and here's what the updated rules look like. That's kind of a slam dunk of a show, right? And the, and then we'll get the launch, right? So there you go. Straight forward enough. And then we got some cool art. There you go. It's a little annihilator art. So good stuff. Anything else, Tom? We want to say about this. I'm super stoked. You stole my line. That's literally what I was going to say. Order of A-Z-R. That's what I'm hoping for. I'm holding out. Sure, sure. I think you could absolutely see it in AOS 3.0. The fact that they're said they're starting all these new cities. Yeah. Going out to found these new cities. Yep. Yep. Well, they can't send storm cast out with every one of those. Right. Right. There's just not enough storm cast. Right. If they take, they say like a bastion forms in the city can, can, can emerge around it. And so it has to be the order that then goes and like seeds new cities. Right. Hawkeye says Cragnos being released this month or next. Everything we know is that Cragnos is coming this month. I would not be surprised to see tomorrow's. Pre-order. Thing to say that next Saturday you'll be able to order Cragnos for it to release the week after. That would not surprise me at all. Totally. Who knows. If not tomorrow you're going to see it next Sunday for sure. Would be my answer. Yeah. All in all, big stuff. Return of Grungy. Awesome new storm cast chamber. Obviously this means we'll get a new storm cast book. Yep. Yeah. Like again, not to, that means we'll have two books go at launch. Just so we're clear. Whatever the new destruction thing is and storm cast. I'm going to say this. I'm just going to jump in and say kudos to GW. Like I want to, I want to put a pin on this because I haven't heard anybody mention this. We went an entire edition without a new storm cast. Yeah. Yeah. At the launch of AOS too. And then they was like, that's it. That's it. Yeah. One of the big complaints for AOS one was we saw like four books. Sure. But we didn't hear we saw one like, and that's great. That's awesome. Maybe I'll actually buy a collector's edition of it. They are, they're winning you back. They're winning you back. Yes. Let's see some other, some other things. Grace here says they're crusades. You make a pilgrimage to something already established. Fair enough. Any rumor engine, rumor engines in this release. I didn't see any yet. And we still have quite a few unsolved rumor engines. I'll do a, I'll do a wrap up for that and try to figure out for the show on Wednesday. See what else is out there. Let's see. Yeah. There we go. Okay. Cool. And then, oh, there's also like, when did the vampire come? Yeah. It could be that we get vampires tomorrow and then like Cragnus the week after or something like that. Cause we have to get both of it. Both of these things need to come out before AOS three really spins up. Right. Right. So there we go. Yeah. All in all. Great stuff. Very exciting. What I would expect is we'll have a month full of AOS releases. Yeah. And then we're going to get a month of 40 K stuff in June. And then from July, it'll be all AOS all the time. Yeah. Hard core AOS all the time, the launch box, new storm cast, new, whatever, you know, opposing force, whatever this new orc forces or whatever it has to be. Right. And then, and then assumingly we'll see other new battle tones roll out with 3.0. So my guess is, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a new beast book this year. Let me just say that which, and that would actually fit with like the theme. Right. Like be sure. Yeah. Yeah. Like the beasts are like, we're back baby. It's time to party. Yeah. I mean, if it's, if it's the era of the beast, it would fit in pretty well. Right. Even though they are chaos still, you know, they're like, well, you want to play? Yeah. We've got big monsters too. Hey, we got all these monsters. Can we join? Like, yeah, sure. You got enough monsters. You must have at least this many monsters to join this, to join the AOS three ride. Yeah. And they're like, and they're good now. Absolutely. We can only hope that AOS three does multiple things for monsters that would make them good. So fingers crossed. I have faith in you team. Bring it together. I wanted to make one final note. This is just a personal. This is completely personal note. Ben Johnson was in the video. And I saw that. I saw that. And he looks great. Ben is a nice guy, a friend. He gave Tom one of the funniest insults I've ever heard in my entire life while he was being very nice to him. Ben, you look great. I don't know if you'll watch this or not, but I just want to say congratulations. It's tough to, I went through the same thing. Still always trying to fight that. I mean, I don't know. I don't know if you'll watch this or not, but I just want to say congratulations. Yeah. It's tough to, I went through the same thing. Still always trying to fight that fight. So congratulations. I hope you stay healthy. Stay well. I hope everybody over there on the design team. I just want to thank, you know, Adam, Eddie, everybody who, who works hard for all this stuff that I think that I think they did a great job putting this one together today. I was really happy with it the whole week and whether or not this should have been six days is probably a subject of discussion. Right. Like there really wasn't enough here to fill what would have been a six days of content. It feels like it wasn't six days of content. Um, you know, my summation of the thing was Warhammer Fest is normally a two day thing and really it's a day and a half. Okay. So Tom, it's very different than you'd be used to from our conventions here. Okay. Oh. So with Warhammer Fest, you get up there on, like, I'll get into the hotel on Friday night. Okay. Nothing's happening Friday. You can walk around and just like talk to people or something, right? But nothing's actually happening. Saturday morning, you go stand outside in a super long line because you cannot pre-buy tickets to any events. All the events are free, but it's first come first serve. Wow. So you have to like get in line very early. You go in, you get little wristbands basically and every colored wristband matches to an event. And the entire thing basically happens over the content of like six hours that day. And then Sunday they have a few more panels in the morning. And then they do the golden demon thing to wrap up the day at three PM. Wow. And that's it. Done. It's like a day and a half. It's in and out. And in general, there's usually about three panels I usually want to really, really, really go to. Okay. At Fest. Not that there's not, there's lots of good panels which is generally interested in. And so it's always been this kind of thing where if you're there, you're actually there more for kind of the exhibition hall where all the designers and artists and sculptors and everybody's just there for a day and a half. And you just go talk to them and hey, cool stuff. I really like the train you made. What do you want to see in terrain? That kind of stuff. Like I had a great conversation last time I was there with the head of the studio that does all the train stuff. Had a really, really nice guy. And so that's kind of why you're there just to hang out with people. And even at the normal Fest, there's not many, there's not a lot going on. So it didn't surprise me that when you now stretch this to six days, they weren't filling a day and a half. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So like the first five days were admittedly fine. I thought the AOS day was the strongest day. Yeah. All the strongest. Great way to leave with the strongest day, by the way. Yeah. All of the strongest stuff has been AOS. Let's be honest. Cragnos, right? And everything there we got on Monday, the IDK warband and the new hashtag Crab meta, right? And now this. So I'm sorry for the 40 K people if they felt underwhelmed even though they had two days dedicated to them, which was ironic. But, you know, we, I think that probably if they ever had to do this again, maybe just do it as two days of longer shows like do a Friday and a Saturday would be the right way to go. Personal opinion on the thing. Because when you say it six days, you set people's expectations really high. And they didn't meet that for all six days. Somebody mentioned this in the comments. I want to put it in on this before we go as well. Just as an aside, they did confirm in the video that the priority rule is staying. Yes. Not that that's really surprising for a lot of us because we really love it. But a lot of people really wanted it to go. Sure. It remains a mechanic that people have questions about. I feel like they recognize though that it's a valuable part of the game and then said, okay, if we feel it's valuable enough to keep it, it's more positive than negative. It becomes how do we play with the incentive structure around it? Which is what I love. Yeah. Sorry, I didn't mean to do it. No, no, perfectly fine. So yes, I mean, we had, I think overall, the, I think if I don't think they'll do this again, the other big announcement I'm excited about was yes, you know, Golden Demon as I'd expect is coming back to AdeptCon next year in 2022. Can't wait to be on the other side of this. Can't wait to see everybody in person again. Yeah. That's fantastic. Somebody asked in the comments, am I doing Golden Demon, US or UK? I don't understand that question. Of course I'm going to go to both next year. Like assuming I'm allowed to travel to the UK next year, which I would think I would be. Yeah, we're going to both, buddy. I got two years of like time to paint figs here another year to go until the next. I got, you know, three years of buildup. I can, I can do two events. So it's no problem. It's no problem. What did you think of all of it? Are you excited about AOS 3? What are your hopes for AOS 3? What do you want to see? Drop it down in the comments. I want to know what you are excited to see. And yeah. Thank you all so much for watching. Don't forget to give this a like if you're here. Hit like. It's so easy. Just hit that little like button. You just move your mouse over and click the little thing. It's so simple and really appreciated. I appreciate it very, very much. And for all of you out there watching, we appreciate it. And as always, we'll see you next Wednesday.