 Coming up on DTNS, Google helps you avoid wildfires, will Microsoft Flight Simulator make computer hardware sore, and how can we all be fans together while apart? This is the Daily Tech News. For Friday, August 21, 2020, in lovely Cleveland, Ohio, I'm Rich Strafilino. And from Columbus, Ohio, I'm Rob Dunwood. Drawing the top tech stories from Cleveland, Ohio, I'm Len Peralta. And I'm the show's producer, Roger Chang. And if you want to get the wider conversation on our expanded show with the Ohio Contingent in full effect, you can get good day internet by becoming a member at patreon.com. But first, let's get started with a few tech things you should know. The Israeli newspaper Calcalist reports that, according to sources, Apple acquired the augmented reality startup Camera AI sometime between 2018 and 2019. The company's employees were reportedly integrated into Apple's computer vision team with the company's tech already integrated into Apple's product line as of 2020. Before the reported acquisition, Camera AI sold an SDK and a set of AR tools that offered the ability to outline objects and apply filters to them in an image, as well as their own software-based background blurring portrait mode. LG announced it will bring transparent OLED displays to subways in Beijing and Xinjiang. The 55-inch panels will display real-time info about subway schedules, locations and transfers on train windows, starting on line 6 in Beijing and line 10 in Xinjiang. The company plans to extend the tech to other subway lines over time. They just need to put the L cars interface on that, and it'll be really awesome. In a regulatory filing, Amazon announced that Jeff Wilkie, CEO of its worldwide consumer business, will retire next year. Current Senior Vice President of Retail Operations Dave Clark will succeed him in the role. Wilkie initially joined Amazon in 1999 and is part of Amazon's S team of senior executives that report directly to Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos. Facebook updated a support page to advise that the classic Facebook UI experience featuring the blue navigation bar at the top will no longer be available starting in September. Facebook began rolling out its platform redesign on mobile last year and introduced a wider opt-in web design in March. And TikTok Senior Executive Vanessa Pappas told Bloomberg that TikTok will continue to operate in the U.S., saying we have multiple paths forward. Pappas said TikTok has not been presented with evidence regarding the national security currents cited in the executive order that will ban transactions with the company, and that so far, the company has not seen an exodus of employees. Let's get further into our discussion, Rob. I cannot wait. First up here, Google announced updates to provide users with more information about ongoing wildfires. When searching for a wildfire in search, Google will now show a map featuring near real-time boundary lines of the fire. This feature was already initially rolled out as a pilot in California last year and is now rolling out across the U.S. Google Maps will also update with road closures impacted by the wildfires and round-around roadblocks as well as providing alert notifications if viewing an area near a wildfire. Google developed the mapping features with input from the California Governor's Office of Emergency Services and uses data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's GOES satellites, which is then processed through Google's geospatial analysis platform, Earth Engine, with maps updated hourly. Obviously, this is something kind of critically needed, the most up-to-date information that you can get, especially now at this time with everything that's going on, particularly in California. But it's interesting, Rob, seeing this rolling out across the U.S., I'm sure this is useful for people that are obviously concerned about what's going on in California, but definitely can see some applications if Google can kind of integrate this with other datasets and other services over time, kind of worldwide. Yeah, so this is one of the things. I'm actually glad that they're taking this step. Now, you're always going to have the privacy concerns of, you are kind of the product when it comes to Google, but this is one where they really are, this is going to help people. You can look at your phone, you can kind of see, I probably should not hike up this hill this day. That is a good thing. So I'm looking forward to these type of uses of big data from a company like Google. Yeah, and we're seeing them being very aggressive with rolling out updates to maps. We've seen ways, which is a Google-owned property, being kind of aggressive with expanding more contextual information, providing more topographical information, which seemingly is kind of, I think now that everyone has kind of figured out turn-by-turn or at least the big kind of two competitors in the map space kind of have that lockdown as a consumer product, that these kind of services are really the value add. If you want to look at it in a very cynical way, outside of being potentially life-saving for people as well. Yeah, and Alex, I was a huge fan of Waze when they serve you around trains, because I can save you 10, 15 minutes. If you get stuck behind a train, especially when you're in an area that you know, you kind of ignore when it reroutes you. But if you understand why they're doing it, as they're doing with trains, you kind of might take their advice. Yeah, and the thing I'll be interested to see is if they can, like I said, they've been working with government agencies and kind of open data sets. If they can expose some APIs so that other agencies and other big meteorological data sets can work this in, potentially expand this into stuff like the Passive Hurricanes, I know there's all sorts of alerting systems already in place with that, but it would be interesting if you could have that directly associated with maps, you know, putting things like hurricanes, maybe even flash flood warnings and stuff like that, to just really make that as useful as possible for people going forward. Right. So Facebook told the Verges Casey Newton that it's piloting new content moderation policy based off a recent report from the Center of American Progress. The report titled Fighting Coronavirus Misinformation and Disinformation suggested that social media platforms suspend algorithmic amplification and prioritize rapid review and fact-checking of trending coronavirus content that displays reliable information markers, create a privacy-focused system that scans draft posts discussing COVID-19, and suggest quality information as well as embed, and this is the key here, they're going to actually embed quality information and relevant fact-checks around coronavirus-related posts. So, yeah, this one is one that I kind of like it because there's a ton of misinformation out there, but the folks, particularly the ones that are spreading the misinformation are not going to like this. You know, how dare you correct me in real time as I try to tell the world about, you know, masks being safe or not being safe. So this is, you know, something that I think that, you know, a company like, you know, Facebook and other social media platforms, they need to do. They probably should have been doing this, you know, for years at this point, but I'm at least glad to see that they're going to be able to curb some of the crazy theories that are being put out there about this pandemic. Well, and I want to break it down really quick amongst those three kind of major points here. And let's start, I think the last one I think is potentially the least, the one that seems like they're already kind of doing in a lot of ways. They're already, a lot of social media platforms, you know, this isn't just a Facebook-specific thing. A lot of social media platforms are already kind of putting contextual information around posts that are talking, that are talking about claims related to COVID-19. And so, you know, kind of expanding that, that seems like something that the social networks have kind of agreed or there is some consensus around, okay, this is something that we can do that is a benefit to our users and, you know, could potentially help stop the spread of misinformation. It's the other two that I think get very interesting. The algorithm of amplification and kind of using that as a trigger to look at, okay, something is getting extremely popular on our platform, it's probably a good idea if we get some eyes on that going forward. Now, we don't know exactly, specifically in the context of Facebook, what their pilot looks like on this, but you know, I would be surprised if that's not already a triggering effect, but you know, Rob, from your perspective, I guess, how important would that be to kind of, okay, this is getting so many clicks or somebody likes or so many engagements per hour, let's have some eyes on that. I mean, does that seem like something, you said it should have already been done, right? They should have been doing this and this is something that's important because it is amazingly fast how stuff can spread on Facebook. I mean, you literally can have something go viral and a million people see it within an hour. This, you know, the ability for something like that to happen just didn't exist 10 years ago, 20 years ago. You know, you go back to when we were kids, it's like, you know, if something was on the nightly news that was highly produced, you know, it could get around the world, you know, pretty quickly, but literally someone can put a post on Facebook and someone in Australia can know about it within seconds. It's so fact that if something is going viral, let's get some humans looking at this and make sure it's legit. I don't really have a problem with that. And like I said, I think that this is something they should have been doing for some time now. Well, and that last one about, you know, kind of reading draft posts and being, you know, and providing some information around that, you know, to your point, I don't know how much that changes someone's behavior that's intent on doing that, but Facebook is already kind of doing something like that on Instagram where if you are about to post a comment on a post or something like that, that, you know, has certain language triggers and stuff like that, it will ask the user, are you sure you want to post that? You know, this may go against Facebook's community guidelines. And I haven't seen like a huge, now the content that goes on Instagram is very different than the content that necessarily goes on Facebook kind of by design. So that you may be speaking to different audiences, even if that is the same company. I think that will be the one that, you know, I would be interested to see if the Facebook pilot actually includes that as a policy and the effectiveness of it. People aren't going to like that. How dare you correct me as I post this misinformation because you think it's real. Probably, you know, a lot of people that are posting stuff, they think it's real. So they don't want to be corrected as they're actually typing it out. But, you know, these are, and from where I'm sitting, these are welcome enhancements to the platform. Well, and it will, it'll be interesting to see next time Pew comes out with their new study we talked about yesterday on the show about looking at the idea of political censorship on the platform, if these policies go into effect, what effect that would have on that discussion. Next up here, you know, it wasn't too long ago that the big question when it came to games was, can it run crisis? And those days may be behind us, but the newly released Microsoft Flight Simulator might be the app that spurs a lot of hardware upgrades, kind of to the same effect. That's according to a new report from John PD Research, which estimates that the simulator will generate $2.6 billion in PC hardware sales based on an estimated 2.27 million copies sold. How do you average $1,100 in hardware sales per copy sold? Well, part of it comes to the hardware needed to run this in, which is pretty extensive with the recommended specs to run the game, 150 gigabyte SSD, GeForce RTX 2080 or AMD Radeon 7 GPUs, and a high-end eight-core CPU from either of the big vendors. But there's also extensive peripheral market for flight sticks, throttles, rubber pedals. I know Airbus came out with an official throttle that they're kind of packaging together with the game. That's authentic to an Airbus plane and stuff like that. And it adds to that realism and kind of that culture of flight simulators that's been going on for decades now. According to Falcon Northwest owner Kelt Reeves, it's the most taxing game we've seen in its generation of hardware since crisis. So Rob, my first question is, are you a flight sim person? And do these numbers make sense? That's a lot of money to kind of spur with hardware upgrades for a game. So I am not a flight sim person from the standpoint that I would go spend $1,100 to upgrade my hardware to play the flight sim game. I might be interested in it to just, if it's gonna run on what I have, but I don't know that I'm willing to upgrade to that extent for one game. So I've thought about this, even since we talked about it in our pre-show, it's like, you wanna get that many people, they're gonna really spend that amount of money on an upgrade in this and it's like, yeah, it's possible. But this is, a lot of people have been waiting for this for a long time. So when you start adding in, as you said, joysticks, the rudder pedals, new chairs, well, I got a new sim game, gotta get a new headset. So I can hear people better. Those kinds of things, they tend to add up. So I could see it getting to that $1,100, but the non-flight simulator guy in me says, that's a lot of money. I will say from my experience, just knowing one person who is super into flight sims in college, I like to call like a 21st century model train mindset, like people who have model trains, over time their setup gets bigger as they build more elaborate track systems, get different trains, they go very meticulous with the livery, they wanna make sure it's accurate. And so for a lot of the flight sim guys, or gals too, isn't, when you play, it's more about like, I'm gonna fly this plane that I will never be able to fly in real life. I could fly a 747, I get to fly a Concorde, I get to fly, because you can purchase add-on packs that add new plane models that are more than just the models of the flight dynamics as well. And there's a huge community, like so much so there's a magazine that's kind of catered to them called the PC flight sim. And it's, you know, I mean, if you assume 2.27 million copies sold globally, it does make sense. It's not like everyone in the, you know, there's 2.27 million people in the US that's gonna splurge 1100 bucks on this, on these upgrades. And the last thing I will say is if you spec out a new PC, which if you bought the game, the last time the game came out, right? Like the official release and others been add-on packs was 2012. Let's say you built a PC 2012, 2013 to play that. Odds are your due for a new PC anyway. And, you know, if you spec out something with the, you know, a Core i7, 9800 and an RTX 2080, that's probably going to run you above that $1,100 cost anyway. So I imagine that's also rolled into there as well. Yeah, that's a good point because I didn't think about how long it's been since the last time the game came out. And, you know, so we're talking about 8, 9, 10, 11, you know, a year old hardware where this game was running before. So, you know, in preparation for this, if you need to get new hardware, it's probably going to cost you significantly more than $1,100. So, you know, could you get to that number? Yeah, but once again, I won't be shocked if that's the number that we get to a new hardware for this one thing. That is a, you know, when you, billion, that's a big number, 2.7 on that. So it's, it's, it could get there, but I just don't know that it will. So a new research effort from Fabian Minster and a team of Google research published details on image compression methodology called High Fidelity Generative Image Compression or HIFI-C for short. This is a lossy compression technique like the current JPEG standard, but uses a generative adversarial neural network with learned compression to rebuild data loss to compression when viewing the image. The resulting image in higher quality images and at smaller file sizes. The authors of the paper acknowledged that the technique in theory can produce images that are very different from the input. However, while currently still in the research phase, the paper shows that HIFI-C can achieve quality similar to the approaches of versus, excuse me, similar to the approaches that actually have two times the bit rate. So they can really crunch images really, really small with this technology. So it will be impressive if they can actually pull this off. But, you know, I want to make sure that, you know, if you're doing this on an image, you know, you know, if your kids that their nose is still in the right place, they still have two years because, you know, it's, this is interesting. You know, I'm for multiple reasons I'm interested in this technology. As I was saying, you know, before my father's a, you know, he is a retired photographer. And, you know, I can see where this technology could go, not just for compressing images, but actually also helping you restore other images that are also, you know, there. Whereas if you could take an image that's somewhat distorted or, you know, it's just an old Polaroid from the 50s or 60s. And you can use this type of technology to make best guesses of what this color would have been or what this picture should have looked like. You know, that is something that, you know, a lot of photographers and a lot of people who do photography editing would welcome. Yeah. And we've seen this on the other end with photography where we've started to see these neural networks do upscaling, right? Where you have a very low res image, you want to print it at a bigger size or maybe you want to see if you can enhance some detail. You know, the mythical zoom and enhance, right? And it's certainly not at a comical CSI level or anything like that, but there are algorithms that can effectively using a network that knows how images are compressed and how we're shrunken down can then kind of reverse that process and, you know, estimate what an image would look like when it's blown up. Interesting to see that in reverse. So, you know, still in the scientific stages, JPEG is a very sticky standard, right? It's, you know, Apple is trying to kind of do their own compression stuff. So even if this is effective, I will be curious to see, you know, what kind of adoption it gets, especially if there's any weird licensing or anything that goes along with it as well. There's all sorts of politics when it comes to standards. The thing with JPEG is that it works. It works really, really well. So you can't just do a little bit better than what JPEG can already do to get people to change. You're going to have to actually truly really make these images ahead of a lot smaller so that they can see the value in using a different technology. Yeah, and then another cool research news. Facebook announced its Reachers team hit a new milestone in embodied AI that might allow for virtual assistants or robots to interact with physical space more similarly to humans. Using a new open source tool called Sound Spaces, developers can train virtual AI systems in 3D environments representing indoor spaces using highly realistic acoustics that can simulate sound sources. This will allow for AIs to identify different sounds but also determine where it's coming from, using it as a data point to help navigate a space. So you can kind of train this all automatically and then kind of deploy it in a real space. This is then combined with another quote called Semantic MapNet that lets AIs systems map unknown spaces with sound and remember the locations and context of items in that space resulting in a 30% better map accuracy using similar amounts of movements and comparable to traditional room mapping. Both tools are available on Facebook's AI Habitat simulation platform. So you can go ahead and kind of try that out. I think they hope that you give it a try and start embedding that into your systems. And again, something that's still in the scientific stage, using sound is nothing new to kind of determine space. It was used in cameras in the 70s for autofocus. It's used in cars to back up. But smarter AI, smarter virtual or robot assistance, that sounds kind of cool to me, right Rob? Yeah, anything that's gonna make these things more accurate. I'm all for it and from what I'm reading and a little bit of research that I've done, this is not terribly expensive. So when you start just strapping cameras everywhere on stuff, that has a cost to it. This is using sound that you can point directionally and microphones to listen to it. So it's gonna be interesting just to see where this technology goes. And I'm just wondering like what iteration of the matrix are we in with all of this AI? All I know is I want like the first robot that has this deployed just to be named Daredevil or something like that. Cause I think that would just be maybe too cute by half, but I would approve of it and chuckle at the same time. But remember though, to get all of your tech headlines each day in about five minutes, you can subscribe to dailytechheadlines.com. All right, getting into our main discussion here. You know, since COVID-19 lockdown started to take effect earlier this year, we've seen the necessity of social distancing causing us all trying to figure out how to remotely engage in once routine activities, right? I mean, we've had things like this, this kind of all started kind of, I guess based on my recollection of it at least is around the necessities, right? Kind of figuring out how you get to work in school remotely that was kind of dominating a lot of the news in March, at least in the US here. And then as lockdowns have stayed in place, we've gradually shifted to things like remote events. You know, how do we still all kind of get together for a shared event? In the US, we're now starting to see this play out in the sports world as well. Taylor Soper over at Geekwire wrote up his experiences about what remote NBA fandom looks like in the age of social distancing. This involved using the new Microsoft Teams Together mode that places participants in a video call against a shared virtual background and then allowing that person to see themselves with a big group of people and also having that broadcast in the arena itself. Overall, he found that the setup to be daunting for an everyday fan to kind of get initially started but that the actual experience was solid and fun. Rob, from that fandom perspective, it is something that is tough to replicate virtually. We've seen other sports leagues kind of put the tokens in of, okay, we're gonna have virtual fandom in that we're gonna have paper cutouts of people sitting in the stands. The NBA is usually pretty out front when it comes to technology. From what you've seen of this kind of experience, does that start filling the gap of what's been missing from the fan experience? The NBA and Microsoft are absolutely winning with what they're doing in the bubble with the giant video screens behind the sidelines to where as the camera goes to that low angle, you literally are looking at human basketball players and you're looking at video representation of fans simultaneously. And they talked about it at Nozium when the bubble first started, but now they'll make a mention here and there. They'll actually, if there's a famous fan who's watching, they'll do a shout out and actually go to their particular feed. But I don't notice that these basketball games are not being played in arenas but are being played in a ballroom from that aspect. From the fan aspect, it's pretty cool. If you can't go see the game with your friends, if you can actually sit in front of your computer with your camera on and watch the game and see some of your friends who are enjoying the game at the same time, there's a great play, you guys are all cheering, you can actually see that. That's cool technology to me. And I think that we are really just on the cusp of what we're going to see. This pandemic unfortunately has changed the world forever. So we're going to see a lot of things that are socially distanced. And what the NBA is doing here, the impacts of doing with them, I think is really, really impressive. Yeah, and I mean, the next step to this is like, the NBA is doing this in a very tested, very secure environment, right? It's limited to like 300 fans per game. It's all heavily moderated. You can't put signs in front of your faces. They'll kick you out if you're not being a good fan and stuff like that, which is actually a significant departure from the usual fan experiences in some stadiums. So I mean, that's like, I wonder how that can expand. The other question that I have for the NBA specifically is, okay, now I want to also have this experience and maybe have it like be able to invite, you know, a select group of people, I think is the next logical step. Obviously they're still just trying to make sure this all works and this can all scale. But then there are whole other industries. You know, once sports figure this out, sports has a lot of money. They're comfortable using technology. They're already set up for broadcast. That's one level of, you know, they have a business interest in serving those fans, but there's tons of other industries. And you brought up a really good example, you know, kind of in the comedy space of what performers like Kevon Stage has been doing. Can you talk a little bit about that and then what he's been doing with that? So yeah, so Kevon Stage is a, you know, as a, you know, a comedian. He's actually in a couple of commercials that are out right now that you might recognize. But, you know, he's a, you know, a decently mid-range comedian as far as just his stature. But he was just saying, you know, with this pandemic, I need to perform. I need to get in front of people, but I can't get in front of people. What can I do? For himself and for his friends who are also comedians, we're going to just live stream our live shows, which when you think about comedy, that's not something that's done. It's like, you know, if you ever go to a comedy show that, you know, oftentimes they make you actually not just turn your cell phone off, you have to put your cell phone in a bag and they keep it until you leave. Whereas what, you know, what, you know, Kevon Stage is doing with his socially distanced comedy tours that no, we're going to record this live and then broadcast it out. And, you know, I was listening to his podcast and he was talking about, you know, some of the comments that he's gotten and one of the ones that really stood out to me was that it was a military family where, you know, a wife rode in and said that her husband is currently stationed in Afghanistan, but his live comedy show allowed them to have a date night, even though he's on the other side of the world. So, you know, they actually watched this live show together while texting and FaceTiming each other. And even though they are separated by oceans, they were kind of able to have that joint experience of watching the same thing live in real time. And I think that that's just the start of how people are going to start using these type of technologies, whether it be on Zoom or whether it be, you know, like we're doing this, you know, via Skype, you know, regardless of the technology, you're going to see people figure out ways, how to use it and to get that closeness that they're lacking, you know, right now in this pandemic. Yeah, and it's interesting to see kind of the top down, you know, NBA and Microsoft signed signature agreement to use Microsoft Teams to virtually put fans in seats. And then, you know, and then the opposite of that is, you know, performers that are, we're seeing this across comedy with the virtual comedy clubs and, you know, instead of selling tickets to shows, you're selling tickets to their, you know, performances of their podcast or something like that as a way to kind of keep going. And that all seems very organic, maybe it's the wrong word, but bottom up, you know, they're using whatever tools are out there, whether they were ever designed for that or not. And if it suits their needs and it can help connect their fans to them and allow the fans, I think also to get some kind of interaction, which is key and get that feedback from fans, especially for an area like comedy, where it's like, you need to know if something is, you can write something, I think it's hilarious. And if it doesn't land with fans, you know, what good does that do you? So super interesting to see how that will develop. And I'm sure someone will find out how to make some money on the side with that as well. Absolutely, absolutely. And remember though, you can join in our conversation on Discord, which you can join by linking to our Patreon, or linking your Patreon account at patreon.com slash D T N S. We love seeing all of our patrons there, always good stuff. But now Rob, let's check out the mail bag. So in today's mail bag, we've got Mike and Steamy Debye, who actually wrote us a letter. And it goes during Rich and Justin's great discussion Thursday on Airbnb and Gathering Limitations, who wanted to add his own two cents. So I'm just gonna read this in his words. Now, I just moved and had a few weeks in DC in between. Hotels are super cheap. And I could have stated a four star hotel for about $100 a night. I chose an Airbnb that was actually slightly more expensive for the following reasons. Number one, Airbnb owners aren't getting federal bailouts. So he's trying to help the little guy out here. Two, you know, I could cook. It reduces room service expenses and restaurant exposure. Three, I was, you know, I went out in the morning for a run and I wasn't in the same stairway elevator as a hundred other guests and employees. And then four, I can do laundry, clean my own linens and towels, and I don't have some stranger in my room cleaning it frequently. I felt a lot safer in an Airbnb. I can understand why their value is weirdly increasing during a pandemic. I hope you all are safe during the pandemic and heat wave and fires. And once again, that is from Mike and Steamy Debye. Yeah, that in a lot of ways, it's it kind of just highlights what makes an Airbnb appealing to begin with, but just like kind of more so in a lot of those points, like those all sounded pre-pandemic. Like, hey, I can support a local homeowner and I can kind of have my own privacy and stuff like that. But yeah, definitely kind of puts a spotlight on it, given everything that's going on for sure. Yeah, and I think I actually probably would opt for an Airbnb if it was feasible as well. I did have to stay in a hotel since we've been in the pandemic and I did not want anybody coming in and cleaning up the rooms. Like, no, we'll be good until we leave. You know, room is clean when we got there. We actually checked it out. We probably sprayed a quarter can of disinfectant spray throughout the room. But I did not want anyone else coming into that room the whole time that myself and my family were there. So, you know, so we did not use a room service. And I can see a lot of people opting for Airbnb. That would actually work for them as well. Well, some people we do run around are our master and grandmaster level patrons. And we want to give them a shout out, including Ali Sanjabi, Paul Thiessen and John Atwood. Thank you so, so much for supporting the show at that level. Truly, truly appreciated. Another person we appreciate, Len Peralta. He's here, he's drawing, he's making art and he's joining us on a Friday, as we would expect. Len, what have we got in store today? Well, you know, Rob said something during the discussion story that COVID has changed the world forever. And that's sort of my take on it. First off, I love the virtual arenas. I think they're really, really cool. But also I feel that it's a little, if I'm gonna take this to another logical conclusion, this is what I think a watch party might look like in the future. Hopefully not, but it's a little bit scary. This is called Watch Party COVID Edition. You have a gentleman who is not only in a glass bubble, but also has a suit on, a diving bell, sort of helmet on, a mask. He is six or more feet away from a television or anything else, and he is in a padded cell. So hopefully it doesn't get this bad, but you know, it's still a very interesting take and hopefully watch parties won't really resemble this in the future, but it is kind of fun to think about, so. So this image is actually available right now, my Patreon, patreon.com, or you can get it on my online store right at lennparaldestore.com. Oh, thank you, Len. Amazing, amazing stuff as always. And thanks, Rob Dunwood for being here. Hey, it's my first time on a podcast with you, Rob. I had a blast. Hope you did too. I absolutely did. And it's like, it's the first time we've actually talked, but I feel like I've been listening to you for years because I probably have. So probably, I know I've listened to several of your shows on dozens of occasions. So it's a real good time doing the show with you this week, or I should say this day, this Friday. And remember, you can always support our show at any level at dailytechnewshow.com slash Patreon. 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