 I'm hanging out with Miss Bee, my colleague, but today I'm the one interviewing her because let's get into that. What's up Miss Bee? What's up? How are you? I'm good, how are you? Nikosao akabisa? No, na kafreshi. Ehe, nguot, pelike, ulipata lini, lisho noa. Ili tengenezoa specifically for this day. So, yeah, I hope I look the part. You do, you do. Roughly how much? Twambia, twambia. Apana lizu, skwe if you're a pana. They might come for me. Let's not talk money. They might come for me. Hey, I can say ma they might come for her in a manisha nibi mingi. So, Miss Bee, you are one of the nominees, you are nominated for talent manager of the year. And most people didn't actually know that you manage talent. Oh, yeah, they didn't know because I started managing talents before I came to SPM bars. So, that's what I was doing since 2018. But I still do on the side, you know, behind the scenes. Unajwai na irobi lazima. You have to get a few paychecks for you to become wealthy because the agenda is to become wealthy. Yeah, so I do that as well. And I've managed to work with, you know, very big artists in Kenya that I really admire their work, that I appreciate that they actually believed in me, the likes of Mamito Comedian, Mula Moa, Mine Kei, Claudia Nisaba, who I still work with until today, the likes of Masaoti, Mova's. And I mean, others that I've been able to consult for, so I'm quite honored, yes. So, let's talk about Claudia, she's the host for the night. So, does that mean that you in the process, Palle, could choose outfits, you know, managing her day? Claudia has a stylist, so what I do is I manage the business aspect of her brand, but she has a stylist, so when you see her looking good, you know, someone else has done the job, yes. So, what can you say is the state of talent management in Kenya? Is this serious? Is this something we need to put more efforts? We have a long way to go, because I feel like most artists are actually looking for people who want to manage them. I have had so many offers of big talents in this country. When they see me managing someone else, they're like, please, you need to manage. But I'm like, it's quite a task to even manage two people at a go, you know. So, we have a long way to go when it comes to talent management because also we need to understand the show business. And because again, you know, people expect if you are their manager, then you give them jobs from tomorrow, you know. But it doesn't work like that. We need to work on your brand first. We need to identify what direction are we taking. We need to work behind the scenes before we even come out to the public to tell them that you do this. So, that's how most artists go wrong, but we have a long way to go. Ya, but we are getting there. We are getting there. The fact that there is a category of talent management on people's choice awards that it means, we are getting somewhere. So, lastly, Kimalizia, what can you say at three attributes of a talent that makes them successful? Discipline, whether it is time discipline, whether it is how you manage your things, discipline is number one. Without discipline, whether you're talented or not, whether you have all these huge followers on social media or whatever you have. Without discipline, you are bound to fail. Number two is basically believing in yourself because if you don't believe in yourself, who will? So, ya. A third one, give us a third. Oh, the third one. Keep going because sometimes competition comes here and there, people are doing the same things you're doing. Nowadays, you don't really have to wait for mainstream media to put your work out there. You have a platform on what you take to come here. Instagram, you put your work there and if it's dope, people are going to love it. So, you need to believe in yourself and keep going. Don't stop. Alright, thank you so much for talking to us. Miss B, we hope you're going to scoop the award. Tuta pata pale kama atachukua, we wish you all the best. Oh, and one more thing. Thank you so much to everyone that took their time to vote for me. Honestly, I do not take it for granted. Atakama uli tumamiyambili uli tumamiyamoja. Or you even took your time to share my post a man. Hey, I have never felt so much love. Like, I felt during this, you know, telling people to vote. It's been so overwhelming, guys. Oh my goodness. Thank you so much. May God bless you and may your pockets never dry. Alright, guys, we're speaking to Miss Katinji. My name is Liz Jackson. See you on the next one.