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I'm here to present my research work do my presentation and The topic of my research work is the theologies of revelation in the Old Testament and its relevance to Nigeria contemporary society introduction So the concept of evolution is not exclusive to the Judeo-Christian religion Many other world religion also lay claim to revelation a different degree But in the Old Testament there is a theologies of revelation gala wish encompasses girls works Nature Professes an historical act of God intervention in the histories of Easter light the holistic theories of evolution reflected how to how the Easter light related with God how it is related with God in In worship with one another and in family and community with other nation in diplomatic or military relation and other essential matter The needed to respond to however speaking the theses of these theologies of revelation in the Old Testament have been gesting by some Contemporary Nigeria and Nigeria churches rather the grace this mission being taught as not Send continent continents the point in that accorded the subredent to God revelation in the Old Testament today many schoolers argue that Agree that the grace cover everything but in reality it will be argue that Part of the content of theology relevant of revelation was that every act had consequences the terms of a Revision of terms Revision is divine as God makness and Communications of himself to the world for the realization of the hand of the creation and the service of the full commitment of man With God revelation is also divine communication to human Being in terms inspiration is applied It's applied to scriptures come from the opposed to poor Treatment all scriptures is given by inspirations of God second to multi chapter chapter 3 v. 16 inspiration is a male is a male of how God works this is an especially mythological issue the Holy Spirit inspired the prophet the theologians and the pressure Prophet I mentioned throughout the histories of the Easterlight people they were not primary writer both speaker and plural and political activities Activities the Hebrew word for prophet is Nabi from the word never which means to announce or to declare The prophet was primarily an announcer or a declare of the will of God. He represents God God's will before man. He is God ambassador to man To me in the Old Testament theology an important place and Importance we belong to what the whole testament teach about God's revelation Likewise, we must know what the whole testament Disclose about the inspiration as a revelation from God this pertain to the to that wish God make known to Particular time and inspiration refer to divine control process of recording that relation to make an Accurate record available to order who were not present when it was revealed in the Old Testament and the H There have been Attempt to know and discern fully the nature and purpose of God which are ultimately unsuccessful to achieve Since God by his nature is removed from man is God not a man He's only one of history as a chapter 46 verse 9 also is the case after that never seven or do a Natural knowledge of God is generally had to be possible the The discussion of the nature and necessity of revelation within the Christian tradition has been both interesting interesting and important The aims and objective of this study is to examine the levels of truth The aims is to examine the level of truth religion depth and trilogy of revelation in the Old Testament Look at the front and did a society also to broaden the knowledge of the social political Economist cultural and religion activities of the easterly in history as well as it is relevant to contemporary and just Reliventary history how the redemption of Israel how the lesson of Israel provide for humanity a model of a Community carry out the rules of the revolutions in the war and the objectives and the objectives are To hand it by the examine the trilogy of revelation in the Old Testament and its relevance to contemplate in a jazz society To identify the aspect that Old Testament revelation as introduced for contemporary in a jazz society to elaborate on the concept of Old Testament revelation to evaluate the concept of Old Testament revelation to look into those discreditable elements in the present day, which are the wrong concept and Motifs to patting to the revelation and finally to provide a possible solution to the problem-facing Revelation shows that we regenerate and revert allies contemporary society Nigeria now the study discuss the trilogy of revelation Discussed the trilogy of revelation in the Old Testament and it is relevant to contemporary Nigeria society For that more it is given a portion to how the redemptive history of Israel may provide Contemporary Nigeria society with a mode of a communist on community Carrying out the rules of revelation in the world and provide an easy way to handle the subject matter to expand shades on the values of placement and important of revelation to show how they are Don't show how their life history can serve as a guiding step to humanity also to regenerate and is the first contemporary Nigeria society for better living for better living and The scope of this study is based on on the trilogy of revelation in the Old Testament and it's relevant to contemporary Nigeria It is common knowledge that today Relatively few people consider the Bible relevance for contemporary times for them The document is to hold and the contents are not the same Consciously and constantly they make use of the of the revelation in their daily activities without giving meticulous consideration to to eat to eat So we have types of revelation we have genetic revelation we are going to reveal himself to all men and we have special Revelation we are going to disclose himself to an individual so we have also had the mood mood of revelation We have also have the mood of relation God revelation through his name God revelation through his is like a heart go vision through the oracle of the prophet and God revelation through True nature so and we also have the purpose of revelation the relation of Revealant of revelation to the church Relation of relation to the politics relevant of all revelation to the nation and relevant of relation to an individual in conclusion in Conclusion consequently the work was concluded by hugging for the place of complete understanding an application of theology of the Old Testament in the globalized world since it is still saying it is T Sorry saying it is T Saying it's the sea working not only is the light is tree but also woman is free as a A recommendation following interprets principles to provide guidance for interpreting apocalyptic literatures as Old Testament Approach because of my time across apocalyptic with Meditating since it is not easy literature to interpret and interpreter must sometimes leave with uncertainty about the details of the All the passage ideas are are you yes? Yes. Yes Try to discover number two try to discover the message to the original readers. You have about one minute left Okay, sir. Sorry So Is it to interpret the try to discover the original reader apocalyptic was familiar to asians listener particularly those experiencing a crisis of suffering that Then moving immediately to compromise application reader today should familiarize themselves with the mindset of Apocalyptis and seek to discover how the first audience will have understood the Message resist the temptation to discover the apocalyptic speak chronologically map of the future and then Take apocalyptic seriously, but don't always take it literally Number five when the author himself direct and it's right on image. So that's all the time that we have a buck a thank you I have a couple of questions now I will work See your your Your research has been a kind of an academic one and you've read and Read through a lot of literature. I see that in your report Now I'd like to ask you what are two things that you can originally contribute towards this You know, it's been a lot of reading and a lot of Coating of other authors that I see so so this whole aspect of Revelation Being something that is unfolded from the ages till now And it's relevance to Nigerian society specifically as your title says Can you share one thing one original thought? Please So I can't I can't assign the question, sir No, you have an in your report and in your presentation You have posted a lot of authors. You've actually taken a lot of content from Other authors. I see that in your study of literature and also in your report as I go through I see that a lot of It has been a lot of information from a lot of authors like Gilbert B. Weaver and which is the doctrine of revelation and inspiration in the old Testament a lot of information from the Colin Gunton and so on but I just want you to share your original thought Your idea and your learning on on this topic Just one in in a couple of sentences if you could say what is your contribution to this project? I think from Yes, yeah from my research. I discovered that most Nigerians especially churches believe that the Old Testament is no more relevant to the to the situation will go hence in the world and Based on the revelations of the Old Testament, but this Testament revealed the nature and the attributes of God In which that we must follow in our churches today So we should not neglect the revelation of the Old Testament and depend only on the new Testament revelation. So that is my own My own visa. I can't hear you, sir. Sorry. How did I'm sorry? How did you come to this conclusion? So I can't answer. Yeah, so check. Can you hear me now? Yes, I can hear you now. Yeah, so my question is how did you come to that conclusion? I I come to conclusion because a lot of things is going on in Nigeria We have some servant of God here So anytime we are expecting election or maybe we're about to engage in an in a nation Do you predict? And we see it in form of prophet and prophets and prophecy So at the end of the day that they are petition Now come that came in form of an prophecy we feel so and to Nigerians now they see the revelation as a as a fake not So if anyone say I I see this revelation about you as these are is Is the relation is fake? But because they failed to learn from the Old Testament that the elevation of the true prophets Prophets is real. So now this we have different first prophets around the world that they will pre-read and they will say This is going to happen For example in our last election in our last election here in Nigeria So the the the election is between three three parties and most of the Servant of God in this country pre-read that the the certain person we win the election And at the end of the day and that person win the election won the election And so when after one day won the election there are all the social media Now the relation is known. It's no more One so it's in the relation is fake is what it has doing is that is there is the hands That's why and I said that so when you read this history of Israelite You see how God relate with them through the revelation So God will reveal himself to them through the reveal the only way he reveals himself to them is what is through the revelation So that is why I come to consider us We should go back to the revelation of the Old Testament to know the importance of the revelation Okay, thank you. Yes, sir. Thank you Okay, the next person to present would be Okay, Rosalind if you're ready you could present Following Rosalind maybe or success. I don't see success and Anita yet. So maybe Rebecca can get ready. Yeah success is here. Okay Okay, so after Rosalind maybe success can present success you want to ask something you want to say something So Rosalind will present now after that you can present then after that Rebecca Okay This Rosalind is not here. Okay Rosalind. Go ahead, please. Okay, so Would you like to switch on your camera as well? Yeah, we can see your screen and you can Switch on the camera as well and then you can start. Yeah, okay, whenever you're ready Now also you can see my screen first. Yeah Yeah, you like to really like to start You can yeah, I can try moving this like Just check it out and then you can start. Please. Yeah, you're ready. Okay. You can see Yes Please start There's a lot. Good morning everyone. So the title of my research is challenges and possible solutions faced in parenting with biblical principles So the so we see in Bible Proverbs 20 to 6 it says train up a child in the way that he should go when he is old He will not depart from it. So there are few questions that arise from this Verse which is in what way should the child be trained in the word of God who can train the child parents Where can the child be trained? Definitely it begins at home when can the child be trained? There's no specific age for it How can we train the child that is the challenge? So now why should we train a child so that we may have Godly children in our families in our communities and our nation So the objectives My objective was to study and identify the challenges of parents in raising godly children Based on biblical principles in my local church the house of almighty god To explore effective strategies and biblical solutions to address these challenges Whether they are related to discipline communication Or instilling faith in there in in their children And to see whether the parents are practicing the christian faith to contribute to the spiritual growth and development of their children To examine the role and the support of the church and the community in providing resources guidance and encouragement to christian families facing parenting challenges Challenges of parents parenting today has become very complicated and very challenging The reason is that there are a lot of changes occurring in our present time, especially in our culture Due to both working parents So they believe having two incomes provides greater financial stability for the family Enabling them to afford necessities like housing health care education and child care without much financial strain parents struggle to give time to their children because of this Or we see a downward shift in the cultural values of the society we live in today With social platforms like facebook twitter instagram whatsapp reels and shorts the list goes on As a result it is difficult for the children to seek the company of their parents and people in general As they are now more comfortable communicating through texting and tweeting Another challenge shared by the parents was about gaming and Korean dramas and Japanese anime series Which is also demonic negativity and bloodshed But the children are hooked on to it for hours and They enjoy it They become very emotional with the characters in the series Which is a major concern for the parents This makes the present society unsafe and compromising for our children and also for parenting Effects of social media on our children social media gives the children exposure to different beliefs and values Which can potentially have a negative influence on them They may also feel abundant or rejected by their friends if they choose to stand out and uphold Their Christian faith this may lead to the child engaging in behaviors that are not allowed at home Otherwise And they may initially hide this from their parents pretending to be godly at home While acting differently around their friends We see in jor- we read in joshua 24 15 as for me and my household We shall serve the lord also in deutronomy 11 Or 19 to 21 Or you shall teach them to your children speaking of them when you sit in your house when you walk by the way When you lie down and when you rise and you shall write them on your doorpost Of your house and your gates that your days and the days of your children may be multiplied in the land of the Lord which the Lord spoke to your fathers to give them like the days of the heaven above the earth So we you cannot lead someone where you have not been as parents believe that their relationship with god plays a Significant role in their commitment to teaching biblical values to their children Children observe the parents commitment to god and their lifestyle Parents should be role models for every child Parents also revealed that they feel there should be an agreement between the mothers and the fathers within the families in terms of parenting and only then they can contribute to the spiritual growth of their children Parents should teach their children the word of god Which is the gospel The 30 parents that I interviewed were parents of the age group between 12 to 21 years And they were active members of the house of almighty god church And they admitted that their children are influenced by secular friends media and electronic gadgets In spite of all this They have been regular in church attendance and youth meetings Most of the parents admitted that personal prayer life is missing in their children and the child does not pray intentionally Either the child is reminded to pray or forced to pray by the parent This was not seen before when the child was attending Sunday school So the role of the church in raising godly children Parents cannot solely depend on the church for their child's spiritual growth But they have to make daily efforts to spend time with their child to instill Christian beliefs and to draw the child to god to have a deeper relationship with god A church on the other hand is a team that is focused on family ministry To train parents with family related camps and seminars to empower parents in their roles Will be a good step towards raising godly children The church and the community need to intentionally walk along with the parents in building a strong Generation who will follow jesus and the christian faith Live a godly life and pass on the christian faith to the next generation The local church and the various age group age specific programs for children held in the In the in my local church like the vocational bible school sunday school and youth meetings Are a blessing for the families attending the church Biblical solution christian parents discipline and guide Their children in christian ways by teaching the word of god and praying along with them Praying along with them right from a very young age The challenges arise during their adolescence. The children can be influenced by many factors Inside and outside of their homes Parents need to continue to love and care for and build a strong and emotional connection with their children During difficult times and speak louder than the other influences in their lives Parents must ensure that That they get into the world of your children Do not let them shut you out of their world invade their space From time to time and ask them probing questions when you need to do so It is crucial to actively engage with the friends Your children choose and to discourage any negative associations By consistently nurturing the teachings of god in a child's heart and live and and life in the child's heart and life You can help them grow spiritually And morally resilient Our first Corinthians 1533 says do not be deceived evil company corrupts good habits When confronting rebellious children Parents be patient and not cursing your children anger is not the solution As jesus is the mediator between god and man And so are we parents the mediator between the worldly things and our righteous children Proverbs 22 15 says foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child the rod of correction will drive it far from him Proverbs 23 13 says do not withhold correction from child for if you beat him with a rod You shall deliver his soul from hell I would like to conclude By saying that if you have challenges with your children The bible says in Psalms 102 112 verse 2 The children of the righteous shall be mighty upon the earth the generation of the upright shall be blessed so don't give up and Pray for your children And god will bring them back to you Thank you Okay Thank you rosalind. Thank you for that presentation I just have a couple of questions in your sample size Like it seems to be a varied range right three teams And people who are in their late teens as well 21 So in what age the range did you find the maximum Problems like parenting problems. Was it in the late teens or was it in the early teens? Um I met only two 21 year old Female child Rest all were like below 21 below 21. So mostly this problem these problems, which I spoke was between age 15 to Say 18 19 Okay mid to late teens. Okay. Okay So so in your research, did you also you you have met with parents but to get the other side of the perspective? Did you also Meet with the the children I did not meet with the children Right Because because we are hearing one side of the story right From the parents, but then the other side But I know one incident of a 21 year old daughter of a single parent who who was like she was Taught the word of god right from her young age and she was also Planted in the church. She was into various church activities Uh, right from age in from a teenage But all of a sudden like after she graduated from her college Then she got her first job and She just came to her mother and said that she wants to move out of the house and have her own space and The mother was a little shocked with this and she still is so So the daughter is no more staying with her and she's moved out of the house and I do not know the details of it But then she has also disconnected herself with all the church friends and church families and church activities So this was disheartening here Yeah, my uh based on the observation my suggestion was just to I mean if you if you would like to Continue with this research after the course also because it's an interesting topic My suggestion is also to get the other side of the picture like from the the children themselves, you know, of course with the parents permission To see what is it that had contributed to them? You know moving away from the faith and to So I think it you'll it'll get a you'll get a clearer or wholesome picture It could be home things at home. It could be some challenges that are unaddressed You know in their own lives personal lives some struggles that they are going to some deep hurts that are there. So Yeah, just a suggestion. Yeah, okay Okay, thank you. Thank you Okay, so um next we have uh success you're ready. Um, you could start if you're ready I'm ready Yeah, go ahead. You can try out your presentation Okay, uh, so rosalind divya has some question posted on the chat and you could uh respond to that as well, right? Can you see my presentation? Yes success All right Yeah, uh, are you going to switch on your camera as well? No because uh where I am And it's the mission field So we don't have a light Okay. Oh, you don't have the lights at the moment. Okay. Okay. Go ahead. Uh success. Yeah. All right. Um, my It's kind of echoing I think some my Yeah, some Mike is on Which is do you are you using multiple? um Like logins maybe through your laptop and through your phone Can you hear me now? Yeah, I can hear you but are you presenting with multiple Things like do you have your laptop mic also on and your phone mic also on is there something like that? Because I three I see three logins I mean, yes, I thought of my phone. I connected through my phone to my laptop So yeah, now it's fine. Now it's fine. Please continue Is it fine now? Yeah, the audio is fine now so you can continue. Yeah, go ahead, please Okay. Good morning. Once again Um, I'm presenting my research work is the biblical examination Of factors responsible for division In the churches a case study of minot districts in ninja states Where I'm currently serving as a missionary The aim of this recharge The main aim of this search is to determine if the difference in belief Is the major course of division of church division The study made use of primary data from the formation obtained From distribution of research questionnaire, which I carried out The study made use of a total population of 100 The sample of 40 was considered for the study The data policy was analyzed using the chair square meter They concluded that the difference in belief is the major use course of division in church division If we look at the book of john chapter 17 ever 20 to 23 the will of god is for us Is that we are united That is why jesus prayed book of john chapter 17 that this disciple would have you have unity Jesus says something say I do not ask On on behalf of this one this alone But for those also who believe in me through their wells that They may all be one even as you father Are in me and I in you it was discussing with disciple that they also may be In us so that's the world Not that the world may believe that you sent me jesus was talking to disciple there now What are the statements of the problem that make church to divide the church of jesus christ is increasing in division instead of unity Today let me use the minasic study. I'm in missionary There are some areas where we go because the area I am is full of muslim You will see the muslims will be saying that christians are not united their division because of what because of doctrine So i'm coming to that division in church seminars are increasing as the consolation consultant Our consultancy are Succeeding many churches today. They're higher cousin times For example, I'll use a force square. For example They do a lecture before they say that they are general verse here Where is the spirit of god? in such cases denominations continue to grow in number due to social division as a case as cultural mechanism We ask denomination. This is not a practical church, but we are diminishing. For example, let's look at cs apc for example, I follow apc on youtube Whenever they are preaching I see unity in the miss in the ministry It will be very very hard for division to come This on unit mostly come in form of ser division What is our tradition Which I've already stated earlier This statement now what was my objective of this study To know the biblical and theological justification which support divisions of fellowship within The body of christ number two to know what tolerance of division a biblical just if just able All permitted in the scope of scripture To know whether the church is actually in alignment with the scripture And how that issue affects the behavior of christian today in the role of the glorifying god Factors that are cost division in the church number one doctrine For example In my background Is from redeem christian church of god The doctrine of redeem christian church of god Said that instruction will be taken from the general vassia down to the parish pastors If you go to the uh matching of fire ministry decision take from the top down To the lowest pain but in these new modern churches of these days What cost the division is doctrine This is how i'm going to do my own this is how i'm going to structure the ministry Ministry today is not a business that if the general vassia dies the Son of the general vassia take over and that is the doctrine of practice Whereas there are people they only allow the only spirit to choose I'm to choose who will be a leader. This is a spiritual thing Above all this the doctrine of jesus christ is should be superseded every other doctrine give it to me number two dressing code The bible says something said when women want to pray should cover their health but today Many churches many geos wife Many workers in the church they dress on trusty That seduce men. There are some trusty. That is good But there's some they dress on seducing Dress and this can cost a division in the church finance When they come to finance Everybody want to know what comes in and what goes out of the church knowingfully that There are offices like accountants Administrative that know what how the money comes and how it goes So financially money can cost division in the church lack of training of the leaders In one of our courses about home say and leader If the leaders are not when trained Can cost a division in the church and these have been a situation that cost division in the church mostly LFF Where god have helped us to be able to restructure Now effects of division on the churches splits or closure of the church Some we said they want to close by eight o'clock. I mean first service second service First service. I don't have any problem with that. But however If the church is exceeding 12 o'clock People will complain even some pastors will complain. We have a meeting to attend. We have a meeting to attend With this there shall be a division. Some time ago in a post-league faith Where I grew up When you come to church by eight o'clock, you are expected to leave at least two o'clock But today if you spend more than time the closures If you spend more than time you see people become murmuring and that can cost division And a large competition losing their Christian faith In fact of division If they can lose once the church is being divided the faiths will drop Those who believe in god will now go back to their way Back way go back to their former life division creates mistrust between leaders and their followers Once the church is being divided There be misunderstanding mistrust will be there On train church leaders these are the effects on train church leaders. For example, we are here for for past three years I know most of us will not even graduate with this section Example maybe like me because I still need to learn more So that I can't help me So once a man is being trained To do the things of god It will be very very hard for that fellow To have to be a problem to be a division To stand as division for pursued and desire for wealth These are the effects Or division what are the concepts because we do ideas with with a form feeling Concept on which peace building and reconciliation can be achieved Using problem solving workshop peace commission and training in division training individual transformation We can establish the framework You have a minute You have one minute Okay peace and stability in the church elaborate effort of harmonizing now Let me go through it to the what are the mythology population of study simple and sampling techniques instrument instrumentation Validation of instrument of the instrument administration and instrument data analysis now if we look at this very well The data presentation analysis of those who will give a questionnaire. You'll see valid may frequency 20 percent 20 frequency 20 Then 50 by the time we go through this at this um This Okay, look at this now Out of the total number of 40 response, which is part of percent Presentation are made 20 And what does one tell us I have it here They showed us that the division in the church is caused by the church leaders The the the president is so much in my conclusion the true church of christ has multiplied into so many Denominations That's all we have time. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you success Just one quick question so Who are the respondents of your Of your questionnaire success was it Was it people who attend the church or was it church leaders or Yeah, could you people who are serving in church? Could you please share? Who are the people who responded to the questionnaire whom did you send out these questionnaires? Yes, um The responders are number one with like 100 people were carried out 100th question here. Yeah, what is the nature of the respondent? Who were they? The response Can you permit me to share the response? No, no, no, um, the people to whom people who answered your questionnaire Like, um, who were they are they where the people attending church where the students where the church leaders Like what would be the percentage of you know, lead like you said male female? 20 percent something That you know, so I just wanted to know like where they serving in church where they people who were attending church Yeah Yeah, uh people were attending church. They answered this question church leaders answer the question student as well answer the question and muslim also because If we we have converted them to church, we want to know what made them not to be in church not to be converted So we also give to the muslim imams to also answer this question So that we know the the area we can come into evangelize to them So we give to the muslim we give to the christian church leaders and student as well to answer the question Okay, and so, um, like how many churches were covered in this sir How many churches were covered in your research? What kind of churches? 15 churches were covered 15 ministries were covered one. Okay. Okay. That's good, right Okay, so um, just one last question. So What did they agree on? You know, there were a lot of things that are causing division But what is it that was that they agreed on? Yes, what actually agreed on was that the leaders The leader actually told me that if I organize a seminar to rebuild the church leaders Who are trialing number one those who focus on the finance of the ministry? And those who claim who said are because they are geo nobody are both god that you should teach them and We should train them with bible with paprika Dutry so that they will also know because a lot of them are carried out So the church leaders agree and that they also need to be retrained And however, I also sent some people two of them have already filled the form of apc Because I refer them so that they can also go and learn more because many of them. They are confused Thank you success. Thank you so much for that presentation. God bless you Yeah, we'll so we'll take a break now for about 10 minutes. We'll come back at 10 5 10 more minutes and and then when we come back Um, ribika can present and also I see that paul is there paul evoto So paul you can also present after ribika presents. Um, who else? Okay, anyway, we'll start with ribika and then followed by paul once we come back, right? We'll come back at 10 5. Thank you so much