 Hi folks. Thank you all for coming. We're gonna go ahead and get started. We have a speaker too that's not yet here but they will be here shortly so I want to get going. My name is Chris Miller. I lead the advocacy and activism work at Ben & Jerry's. I'm just here to act as your emcee although the company is strongly supportive of this legislation. So we're here today to urge the Vermont legislature to move forward with their effort to end qualified immunity. You know, as many of you know, qualified immunity was in fact invented by the courts in the Jim Crow south to prevent people who were victims of police misconduct from having their day in court. The Vermont legislature can fix this problem and we're here today to ask the legislature to act and to pass legislation that would end qualified immunity. We have about 10 speakers. Folks are going to be relatively brief. I'd ask that you hold questions until the end. And so with that, I would invite our first speaker Senator Rom Hinsdale to say a few words. Thank you. Thank you all. Thank you so much for being here on a day that we are recommitting to ending qualified immunity in Vermont. I personally and particularly want to thank Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield, not only for standing up for this issue and standing up for criminal justice reform, but also because we should enjoy free ice cream. We should remember that we deserve joy and that everyone deserves to have joy and eat ice cream and remember why life is worth living. And who has that right and privilege been taken away from? It's been taken away from Tamir Rice, who was 12 years old when he was killed by the police. It's been taken away from George Floyd, who can never have ice cream with his daughter again. It's been taken away from Ahmaud Arbery, who can't go out for a run and then get a scoop of ice cream, a mere lock and on and on Brianna Taylor. And so so often we have to remember that people of color deserve joy, too. They deserve to be able to get a scoop of ice cream with their kids and and pass wisdom and joy on to the next generation. And so often because of corruption, misconduct and police brutality that has taken away from them. I was 13 years old when I was arrested by the LAPD with a friend of mine who is also brown. We were on a street corner, a block away from her house, getting something she needed at the store at about 9 30 at night. And two officers pulled up and the first two questions they asked us were, Are you Mexican? Are you sure you're not Mexican? And then they told us we were breaking curfew and took us to a precinct that was about 45 minutes away from where we were a block away from her house on a school night. They handcuffed us to a bench and they didn't talk to us for most of the rest of this school night. And finally, when they went to call our parents at around 2 AM, another officer came over and I thought, you know, that officer had a look of concern on his face. And I thought finally, you know, I don't I think we've ended up with some really bad police officers who held us for most of the night, didn't share our rights with us, didn't call our parents. And that officer came over and he said, Hey, it's pretty late to have these young girls here on a school night. Don't you think? And the officers that had detained us said, You know what? We're getting overtime for this. It's fine. And that officer that I hoped would be the good cop would be the one to say that's not right. Where have you called their parents? Do they know their rights? Have you talked to anybody? Laughed and walked away. And that's what a system does that has no accountability built in is even if you have a good officer, one who you think shares some concern for your well being as a 13 year old kid. The system doesn't really create a lot of opportunities for them to hold their colleagues accountable. And that officer walked away that night. And that's when I learned that you can't have a system that just relies on good cops to police bad cops. You need actual accountability. You need to end qualified immunity. And remember that officers of the law who have the right and ability to detain people to pull a gun on people and to take away their civil liberties and in some cases take away their life need more accountability, not less than every other job in America. And that's why we're here today to ask folks to end qualified immunity. And it's not just about the folks in other states that we know and my own experience in Los Angeles. You know, we know that Greg Zulo in in Castleton area was detained by the police for having snow on his license plate. And they instead of, you know, helping him along his way and giving him a warning, asked to search his car. And when he refused, they towed his car, impounded his car, and he had to walk in the snow back to the college campus or Mark Johnson, who will never be able to enjoy ice cream again, who was gunned down in Montpelier, someone with known mental illness who had an air gun in his hand that officers thought was a dangerous weapon. We have issues here in Burlington where you see that black teenagers are detained almost at the same rate as white teenagers in a city where they are a tiny fraction of the population compared to white Burlingtonians and where in Chittenden County, young black men make up 2.5% of the youth population, but 25% of those charged as youthful offenders in court. This is a system that is broken in Vermont that we need to fix in Vermont. And finally, I'll say, you know, I've talked to officers about this legislation because I've spent a decade in the legislature fighting so that law enforcement has the trust they need to do their job and protect and serve all Vermonters. And when we talk about this bill, they say, we can't possibly pass this bill. We have a shortage of law enforcement officers, and this will take away the ability for us to recruit more law enforcement officers. Well, first of all, we don't want the kind of law enforcement officers that don't believe in accountability, that don't believe in oversight of their job, which which Americans and Vermonters are supposed to be guaranteed. And second of all, we have a shortage of nurses. We have a shortage of educators. And do we say just reduce the standards? Just get rid of the accountability measures? You know, who cares if your kids aren't aren't educated as well in school? Who cares if you don't get the quality you need in the hospital? Because we have a shortage of those staff. No, we don't do that. And that's not what we should do for law enforcement either. So I ask and I'm joined by so many other community leaders and 75% of Vermonters in asking that the legislature end qualified immunity and finally bring responsiveness and accountability to law enforcement. Thank you. Thank you, Senator Rom Hinsdale. I did forget to mention that we will be serving ice cream in the shop after this stick around for that. If I can ask representative Selena Colburn to come forward. Thank you. I want to start by thanking everyone for being here and thanking folks for organizing this event. And huge thanks to Senator Rom Hinsdale, Senator Fallon and others who really led on this issue in the Vermont Senate for where to working with them as a member of the Vermont House. It's clear from the stories we just heard from stories we've heard again and again, that our system of justice in this country often delivers anything but justice. It's true in Vermont, where we see documented racial disparities as Keisha just noted in really every step of the criminal legal system process. We have the worst record for disparities and incarcerations in the country in the state of Vermont. And the process of how these disparities happens, it was recently affirmed in a report by the Council of Government that the Legislature commissioned that showed that black people in Vermont are over represented in misdemeanor and felony prosecutions by up to 14 times more likely to be charged with a felony for drug offenses. The good news is that there is truly I believe growing support for transformation of our justice system and for how we respond in this country and in this state to people who cause harm and to survivors and victims of crime. But we have to reevaluate the role of police in our communities to to enact this transformation. We have to be asking ourselves when is a police response the appropriate response? And we also have to be asking in cases where it is, how do we really build trust with police in our communities? There are many answers to this, so I don't want to pretend that qualified immunity is the only answer because that's what happens after something really terrible has happened, right? So we need policies to create equity in our justice system all across the board. We need community oversight of police. We need better training. We need to really investigate alternative responses to what are sometimes called behavioral crises for really understanding when a police officer maybe isn't the right person to be responding. We need to look at seats attorney Sarah George is doing here at limiting what's sometimes called secondary enforcement. Those kind of pull over stops that can then escalate and really rethinking about how we criminalize drugs and poverty and a host of other things in our state that are really social constructions. So ending qualified immunity alone is not enough, but it is a really important piece of this puzzle. Vermonters who experience abuse, injury, or even fatality at the hands of police deserve their day in court. I worked in the state legislature as a member of the House Judiciary Committee on our recent revisions to the police use of force policies that we have. And I can tell you that the laws governing police conduct in this state already include significant balancing factors and protections for officers as they should. So we really need to get rid of this practice of just wholesale shielding officers because that tips the balance and it really nullifies our efforts at reform in other areas. So I want to join Vermonters who have spoken really loudly and clearly in support of ending qualified immunity in this state in support of transparency and accountability and policing. And I really hope that my we'll see this bill cross over from the Senate to the House and really look forward to working on it there and and getting the strongest policy that we can for the state of Vermont. Thank you very much. Thank you Representative Colburn. Next up Senator Becabella. Good afternoon. I think I want to start by saying I come to this not just as a legislator but also as a parent and someone who has studied history for a long time and has been a student of history for a long time. And when I have a platform like this it's really important to lift up other voices who are more directly impacted by this on a regular basis. So I want to talk about the writer Isabel Wilkerson for a moment. Black writer who has an amazing book called cast and what she says is we have an invisible cast system not invisible to her as a black woman but invisible to so many other people in this nation and that we actually are in many ways not different from India and not different from Germany during the Holocaust that we too have a cast system here and she said when you have a cast system and you're not seeing it for what it is you don't see that the structure itself that the society is built on is actually rotten at the base and she like can say to an old house and that you have to tend to that rot you have to tend to the base of the system that is flawed and that's what we are doing by examining qualified immunity for the very first time in 50 years in Vermont and the Senate and saying just because it's been this way doesn't mean it has to stay this way that we have to be able to look under the head of the system and say is it doing the things that it was intended to do or is it having in fact an impact on all of us as a society that's what we're trying to do in the Senate and I want to thank Senator Rom Hinsdale for speaking to you know we've heard from a lot of law enforcement that they're very uncomfortable with this and I could tell you as a gay woman there were people who are very uncomfortable with me having equal rights they were very uncomfortable with civil unions very uncomfortable with civil marriage we have seen this before and it doesn't mean that we as a society shouldn't be examining the system and figuring out is it serving the needs of all people so I am so excited to be here with all of these people behind me I want to keep it brief because there are other voices I want you to hear from more and I just want to thank you for being engaged in this issue I really hope we are going to continue to make progress on this in the Senate and the last thing I want to say is I want to thank Senator Sears and Senator Bruce who I know could not be here but they both believe we must not just accept that something is right just because it's been that way for a long time thank you very much thank you senator ballant next up I'd like to invite Kaya Morris who is the executive director of rights and democracy thank you all for joining us today for this important conversation and just a reminder that black lives still matter we are really fundamentally trying to address in this moment is that we had a cultural awakening that went and reverberated across the globe around the disproportionate relationship we have between those whom we have in place and in place and trusted and trusted in saving and serving our communities from harm to become those that are the actors creating the harm for our communities we have a legacy that goes back to the beginning of this nation's founding that has treated certain individuals as subhuman and as a less deserving of their human rights and so what we found that happened in that last year or two of this pandemic is that people said we're not interested in the status quo that i will not let my brother fall behind and that we must understand that what feels safe for me feels entirely unsafe for someone else and those same pillars we look to for security our visions of terror for some members of our community that people will not seek assistance from law enforcement because they know that their requests and their cries may be twisted and used against them and criminalized them for doing so that there is a constant fear that when you are pulled over that violence may erupt that that particular police officer on that particular day may have made some difficult choices that have led to this unfortunate moment that means the very end of your life and so we were here on the streets and we had youth parked in front of city hall here in burlington and we had things painted on the roads declaring that black lives matter and that this is going to be a new day and what's happening right now it's a retraction we're finding that that same energy is still it's it should be there but it's dissipated and so now it's still the same folks who were putting themselves on the front line to make progress that are actually back in the line of fire because the allies are gone so there was a promise at the beginning of this year at the beginning of this legislative cycle that we were going to put forth a bill to end qualified immunity and that bill has been gutted because the power of the people has not been in the people's house and the urgency the cries and the fear are not felt anymore and so it's easy to go back to what is comfortable instead of what is right so i am so proud to be here in this moment but i am disappointed as well because all the people who slept intense for weeks at a time all the folks who put themselves in the front lines of these protests and dealt with tear gas and rubber bullets all the people who lost their lives in the fight not just in the last few years but over the last few centuries are looking at us and saying what are you doing why are we unable to get this done and so as each of these speakers are going to outline it is crucial that we continue to press forward on making real real actually actualized reform for law enforcement so that we can make a better Vermont and one in which people do not have to fear for their lives nor do they leave as we keep seeing happening over and over again we all deserve better thank you next up i'd like to invite sarah high tower who's the executive director of the peace and justice center happening across quote in particular has been on my mind so i'm gonna start my speech with a quote because that's what we do this one is not an inspiring one restraints why are you so concerned with saving their lives the whole idea is to kill the best or it's and and the war at the end of the war okay this has been my life okay should i go is that good enough should i try it i'll shut up again if they start great so quote not a good quote but i'm gonna quote them which is just straight why are you concerned with saving their lives the whole idea is to kill the bastards at the end of the war if there are two americans and one russian left alive we win general thomas power us air force 1960 and i know that quote sounds like a tangent i promise i will make it work by the end but what i want to say is that the word reasonable and what is reasonable and who defines it and what it means because the word reasonable is very objective i think all of us will agree that if we look at the person next to us we probably have a different definition of what is reasonable to some extent than they do but to another extent i hope that we today are starting to broadly agree on what is reasonable but we're still living in a time where 25 50 75 100 years ago the people who are lifting up as leaders who we were who were creating the standards who got to say what is reasonable when how and where had very little in common with me and what i consider reasonable they were men like thomas power who could reasonably say that three americans and one russian left alive would be a win they were police who could shoot black men on the reasonable suspicion that they looked like black men wearing jeans in a neighborhood where crime had occurred they were the public defenders the judges and the prosecutors who said it is reasonable to shoot first and ask questions later they're the politicians who called black and brown brothers scary that they're super predators that they waged a war backed by billions of dollars what our society has to find is reasonable has very little to do with reason it has a lot to do with who's in power and what we want to do to maintain that power and i think to the point of what kaya just said is that it's wild that what we could consider reasonable wins two years ago one and a half years ago is slowly dwindling away that the allies that we had the momentum that we had is we're not keeping it there's not as much as i love to see all of your faces is a year and a half ago we had momentum to do so much more and i i want us to continue to build up the momentum starting with ending qualified immunity thank you all thank you saraya next up i'd like to invite uh reverend mark hughes the executive director of the remand racial justice alliance and um thank you ben thank you jerry and thanks for all of you come out to meet us today and have a conversation about qualified immunity it is um really unfortunate that we would have to stand before you today and have a conversation about what we all know is just the right thing to do it's it's it's really quite simple i think earlier um at the top of this press conference it was mentioned that the the whole premise of qualified immunity is is really an offshoot of the civil rights movement uh what happened was is is that a law enforcement officer decided to arrest some black ministers who were accompanied by a dozen white ministers in the freedom rides in mississippi because they refuse not to enter a restaurant and that's when qualified immunity started the concept of qualified immunity catch it please um however it was it was an adjustment uh to as chris said at the top of the presentation the kkk act now listen to what i'm trying to tell you this is why this is all stupid is is because the kkk act which was enacted in 1871 at the height of reconstruction was designed to protect black people from protect their civil liberties that's what it was designed to do and it was in 1961 when it was deconstructed and replaced with this idea that there should be this thing called qualified immunity that would make people exempt from that same protection why are we begging for this why is it being positioned in such a way that it's being something taken from the police this is actually a restore of civil liberties this is not taking anything away from anyone but the the bigger question is is why do we even have to have this conversation the logic tells us is is that it doesn't make any sense for anybody to be immune to the law especially the law hello so why why are we having this conversation but there are deeper discussions because it seems that every time we start talking we start talking about civil rights when we start talking about racial justice when we start talking about diversity equity and inclusion we always end up at the doorstep of the police why is that well i encourage you to do your history work because the same reason that this this thing was enacted in the 60s it stands true today and that is there is a racial division along an economic and a political division along racial lines that has always existed in america and it manifests itself in the criminal justice system as well as housing education employment health services economic development transportation all the way across the board so why are we having this conversation when we know that economics is at the center of it and why do we have delays in the economic policy that exists in our legislature today to address it especially having with the legislature having already acknowledged that systemic racism is a thing in a joint resolution last year why are we still having that conversation and i think the other piece of this thing it really has to do with why is it that we have a president pro tem of the senate a judiciary chair who is one of the most powerful people in there why is it that we have so much power behind this bill but yet and still is being dec is being deconstructed and gutted even as we speak where is the power to keep this thing together how could it be that we can have the president pro tem and the chair of judiciary pushing this thing and we still can't get it over the finish line why the reason is is the same reason that we had this thing passed in the house at the national level and the senate refuses to take it up it's because of political and economic power because it doesn't pay certain people to see this come out the way that is supposed to come out so let's call this thing what it is there's political and economic power that's blocking what we're trying to do and it's our voices and it's only our voices that can make this thing come to fruition how is that vote them out vote them out because if they can't get it done this session here in the state of vermont everybody's up for election in november there is no reason why we should not be able to get this done in this place at this time everybody knows that this needs to get done at this place in in this time and if we don't get this done what it means is this one thing and one thing only is that the police are more powerful than the legislator despite rule 25 in the house and despite the sixth and seventh article of the constitution so i encourage you to get busy because what we're what we're really doing is is we're not just holding a legislature accountable in a a certain chamber that is judiciary in the senate we're holding them all accountable and if they can't get this done vote them out send them home we got to get this thing done thank you i got to say it's an honor to be with these advocates of justice thank you for the my name is dwayne peterson and i appreciate the opportunity to share some perspectives i've gathered across my careers i served nine years as a patrol officer with the los angeles police department l.a.p.d and eight years as a special agent with the california department of justice i literally swore an oath to defend the constitution and i proudly serve my community and those were rough years of violent crime los angeles suffered a thousand murders in a single year when i was on duty i understand and deeply respect the challenges of working in public safety then i had the sense to choose vermont and like so many others moved my family here ten years ago i founded co-founded sun common which is the state's largest clean energy business now a holy own subsidiary of another great vermont company isan while those various experiences brought me some insights i'd like to share i'm here in my personal capacity and not on behalf of any of those entities i'm here because i believe the very concept of qualified immunity is simply indefensible notice that those who opposed this reform don't celebrate this bizarre legal doctrine but focus on what they fear would happen when we eliminate it they alleged that it would contribute to police malaise make it more difficult to recruit new folks into law enforcement or that it would burden municipalities i'd like to address each of these qualified immunity is indefensible it doesn't protect law enforcement practitioners from frivolous lawsuits nor from accountability arising from their official actions they're well established pathways in the judicial system to address these rather it exists to prohibit victims whose constitutional rights were violated from seeking justice it only protects those who by definition acted unreasonably now notably those who oppose ending this weird doctrine tend not to defend it but instead alleged harms from enacting this common sense reform police officials claim that morale already challenged during these difficult times as law enforcement seeks to regain the public trust the law enforcement would suffer further by adding this protection for unconstitutional actions and that recruiting would suffer too i don't believe that a full throated defense of upholding the united states constitution would disparate police officers or dissuade others from joining the ranks i saw firsthand how good cops detest the bad cops standing with the constitution can only be good and now as an employer in what is the toughest labor market in my lifetime i know that young people are voracious consumers of media and have intense bs filters on what's right and wrong the pathway to attracting millennials women and bipoc folk into fulfilling careers in public safety is hardly by clinging to vestiges of injustice like qualified immunity better to tout the recent policing reforms enacted and an end to qualified immunity as visible commitments to improved policing as recruiting tools for the next generation we also heard that municipalities would be harmed by the confirmation of constitutional rights one of the aspects i appreciated about the los angeles police department was that i knew that organization had my back i received two department commendations and never a citizen complaint but i knew that if i were unfairly accused or even if i made a mistake on duty la pd would be there for me so to my current job our people are undemnified for their work i believe vermont police would expect the same adding liability coverage for this niche risk is right to protect folks on the front lines but i've also learned a lot from the caring vermont business community including that liability insurance isn't just about protecting a company's assets but in creating a pool that's available to do right by victims of accidents or wrong doing insurance appropriately provides for those who suffer harm our municipalities seeking to shirk that liability and merely shifting the risk and cost to victims that's not right so i believe qualified immunity intended to protect violations of the constitution is indefensible and worries about writing this wrong are unpersuasive as reasons to perpetuate injustice that's my perspective as a former police officer thank you dwayne uh two speakers left introduced jerry greenfield co-founder of ben and jerry's and co-chair of the campaign to end qualified immunity ben and i are here today both as co-founders of ben and jerry's and also as the co-chairs of the campaign to end qualified immunity we've been engaged in this work for the last two years both at the federal level and in about a dozen states and one of the most remarkable things about this effort for justice is the broad ideological base of groups and organizations who are seeking to end qualified immunity it starts at the supreme court with both clarence thomas and sonia satamayor agreeing that qualified immunity needs to be ended or significantly reformed and just last year ben and i co-wrote an op-ed with the general counsel of coke industries urging an end to qualified immunity in new mexico imagine that ben and jerry writing an op-ed with the general counsel of coke industries who would have guessed not us but the issue is that important and that compelling and then look at who we have here today representing all of her month elected officials business people former law enforcement grassroots organizers racial justice advocates it's incredible across the state and we all agree yes police have a difficult job and we want to celebrate the police when they do a good job we say love the good ones and at the same time when people's rights are violated they need to be able to get justice we need to end qualified immunity now thank you and finally ben cohen co-founder ben and jerry's co-chair of the campaign to end qualified immunity first i want to thank the huge majority of vermont police officers who are dedicated to helping out to protecting and serving in all sorts of difficult situations men and women who go about their jobs thoughtfully and with concern and care for the people they encounter every day and here's some things that we as vermoners and americans all believe in no one should be above the law everybody is entitled to their day in court everybody deserves equal justice under the law and you'd be hard-pressed to find a vermoner who believes that police should be immune from prosecution if accused of breaking the law let's face it the status quo is not working trust in our police is at an all-time low and it's trust between the community and police that is foundational to effective public safety we need to understand that trust and accountability go hand in hand if you're not willing to be held accountable people aren't gonna trust you the way to rebuild that trust is not to persist in the same old ways it's to bring allegations of police abuse into the sunlight into a court of law and let a jury decide that's really all overturning qualified immunity is about letting an aggrieved person have their day in court and letting a jury decide we believe in government of the people by the people for the people ours is a representative democracy where our elected representatives support the will of the people 75 percent of vermoners believe that police officers should not be immune from prosecution police officers disagree i get that it's natural everybody would like to be immune from prosecution nobody wants to be held accountable if somebody told me hey ben you're currently immune from prosecution is it okay if we take away that immunity hell no but when police officers say that they can't do their jobs without immunity from prosecution what they're actually saying is that they do not believe they can do their jobs without violating people's constitutional or civil rights and that is not the kind of policing we want in a free society i get that it's easier to do the job if you don't have to worry about trampling people's rights but protecting and serving some people while abusing others is not the kind of policing vermoners want overturning qualified immunity is not about saying a policeman is guilty or that he or she did something wrong all it's about is allowing a person who feels abused to have their day in court and letting a jury decide that is justice that is our system of accountability saying that police are not to be held accountable is unjust all we're saying is that police should be held accountable in a court of law just like everybody else well people say this is vermont it can't happen here but it does and we've had a lot of examples today about how it continues to happen in our state mostly toward people of color so people who tend to be abused by a rogue cop don't look like me they tend to be they tend to be people of color or lower income so it's difficult for people like me to understand the problem because it's not our lived reality we need to hear the voices of those not like us you've been telling me to shut up for years when i've been telling you about this very that are crying out for justice we need to believe what they're telling us we need to stand up for those who suffer the day-to-day indignities of being other it's white people it's white people the majority that have the power in our society so i'd like you to think about three numbers the first is 450 000 the second is 1700 and the last number is five 450 000 the people of vermont have spoken over 75 of us that's 450 000 vermont citizens want to hold police officers accountable by overturning an antiquated doctrine 1700 there's 1700 police in our state who do not want to be held accountable we get that but being held accountable is a requirement of any job and it should be especially a requirement for people we authorize to use physical and lethal force in our name five but somehow or other our system of representative government is failing us and a committee of five people in the vermont legislature appears to be about to eviscerate senate bill 254 this will deny the full legislature the ability to vote to end qualified immunity and it'll continue to keep bed cops immune from prosecution that is not a representative democracy that is a police state in which cops are above the law there's a clear desire of vermonters who care about the rights of their fellow citizens so we ask pass a bill to overturn qualified immunity out of committee so that the full legislature has a chance to vote on it five people should not use their power to overrule the will of 450 000 vermonters thank you thank you then i assume uh folks participating the press council we have to take any questions if you have them and then we will open the shop for folks who want ice cream we'll have about 10 minutes to get people in and out so thank you certainly the bill has been watered down quite a bit i mean is the form that it's in right now is is that something that that you guys would support or is that kind of a non-starter on your end understanding and talking with members of the coalition that what was being discussed last week in committee is not a compromise that they could get behind so the committee is going to continue to do their work the conversation is not done and so we're we're continuing to engage the committee with a path forward so but i think i got a strong message this morning as it stands now the compromise that was considered last week is not something that we can get behind the only thing i would add is that i have another piece of legislation s250 that has the end to qualified immunity intact it also has independent investigation into use of force making sure that if there is misconduct from an officer it's put into a registry and follows them so they can't escape accountability for actions of misclassifying information or misconduct as well as banning the use of false information to coerce a confession so we have a comprehensive bill in senate government operations and my hope is that the pro tem will join me in helping to advance that bill out of senate government operations that has ending qualified immunity if we can't remain strong on ending qualified immunity as it stands in senate judiciary can i speak people can i speak i'm a victim of a heinous crime bill that was passed by madeline qman and i am roger may cover the eyes of god held me up but had vast against the brick wall that they exposed the front level of my brain it kicked the left eye out of my head i am a victim tom trombly found me and if he had i would be dead i am the reckoning of christ and i kid you not i want you people to know that i'm writing a book called how about me by robert william right and you're gonna make me a millionaire and i'm gonna take care of everybody i'm supposed to do this today i came back god bless you all i walk and the eyes of christ and jesus christ and the mother of mary thank you all for what you do for everybody and everybody is equal and in the eyes of god take care thank you sir thank you thank you and thank you all for what we do for each other uh i'm coming back i'm gonna buy eight candles about the tree of life at my family's spirit fair just for a teeny fabric thank you