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This is a very special DL debate, we have J Royalty here, there was supposed to be three, but we're a man down here, Mick Senior has an important J meeting, or did he get cold feet, I'm not too sure, but we'll ask that the boy wonder himself, he's in the studio with us now, and we're going to speak to him shortly, and of course the man with the best hands in the business, big Neil Gallagher, with a lot of questions for these guys between their career and of course the 40 year anniversary of their club, what a 40 years it's been, and I'm just wondering did they ever dream they would go this far in this time, I'll be putting those questions to the boys, shortly first though I wanted to pay tribute to our horlers who went to London at the weekend and came away with another valuable victory, two from two, from Mickie McCann's side, Declare Coulter, the points machine again, Man on the match, and our horlers playing Mieth up next week, it was also one two from two, that should be a cracking game to see who tops, Division 2B, fair play to all there, on the Highlands side you can catch an interview with manager Mickie McCann from Owen Karrison at the weekend, they've got to just maintain order, under 20s kicked off their season as well, in the Leo Murphy Cup, they come up short against Derry, 114 to 12 points, now that's an All Ireland Champion squad, Derry in there, so listen a bit of work for Leo McLoone and his back room team there, but listen, he said there's a lot to be done, the team battled hard, first game out, Sligo up next of course, I think Mayo as well is in that group in the start of the championship, is at the end of March, so we wish the boys all well there, so as Entros goes, talk about needing no introduction, we talked about the drumroll there, Joe Dex is here with me tonight, of course keep me right, twiddling the knobs, these two guys, what can I say, basically they changed the course of history in terms of their club, and our county, it is of course Michael Murphy and Neil Gallar, welcome to the show lads, how are you today? Is there a bit of romance in there or no, or is there any mention of that? Obviously in your house, Murph, we're just going to be wedding bells ringing soon, what about this one, he's doing a bit of a line as well, is he? He keeps his car as close to his chest as they. Somebody dancing at the dance floor there, the show here is the G. Anything can happen, anything can happen, no lads, listen, as I say, I thought Mick senior was coming up and I was going to get interested in Michael to talk to him about the history now, but of course you guys know all the history in terms of where the club has been and the story it's been on, Michael, I throw to you just about that journey, if you go back I suppose to the time frame, I think it was around about 2002, 2003, up on that point it was division 3, 4, up and down and then there was a bit of a change at the club for Anthony Martin, you know, Erie Crawford guys I guess, kind of started to put, the team started to grow in confidence and really kicked from those dates. Yeah, I think so, no brand, probably I suppose a number of years even prior to that too, you know there's a solid base built within the club, you know, I think even off the field, you know, getting things like facilities and things like that right, you know, right up onto that point, you know, we were probably looking, probably we were getting homes here in the air, we were in Brina for a bit, we finally got up to Fox Hall then, we got our own clubhouse, the restroom, pitches and whatnot, so yeah, listen, the club would have been on around junior for a right bit, got up to Intermediate and yeah, and around that canary in the 2000s, I think between 2000 and 2005 then started to come, didn't one, I suppose it got to plenty of finals, didn't really get over the line in too many of them, but yeah, you would have been around watching away at them and been there on the side lane and on the track trying to kick a few balls back out to the original. See that 2005 there, Intermediate, which was a big title, Mike, on terms of the evolution of the team, and two years later you made a senior final, was it next year? Two years, yeah, I mean it was some job, Mike, you were about 16 then, were you involved in that team? I came in, I didn't make the county of it, the Ulster club then, I came in at that time. I had some memory of that, right? So, remember coming in now, at that time we were training, I think it was the beginning to get into the winter, we started training down in Tairman, I think under Leitzen, remember I was just getting left down the road with Sean Burkus up the road and getting into training then on the Tuesday, Thursday nights with Francia and also I was an unbelievable experience, I was 15 at the time and to know what to be playing with, lads in your club that you looked up to and was, you know, where you were watching games at and you were about dressing rooms, I had to go on and all of a sudden out training with them, and the club getting to compete in Ulster was brilliant. At that point you were watching Big Neil air kicking points, was it something you were taking note of? I sat there and Neil was like, I could kick them to either side. He was a catcher, a man who was lords in the skies, but now we had plenty of that time. Jeremy Grenner up front and Kieran Bonner, Colin Kelly, Gary McFadden, you know, there was a good side, a real backbone of the team for the next number of years, really to be brutally honest. The club went on a great run that time in Ulster and it was a good time around the various parts of the province. The whole club really got around it, it was a good experience, I remember of it anyway, didn't finish maybe the way we wanted to, but it was maybe the sign of things to come in that regard, you know. What's your early memories of that, Neil? Well, even before that, I remember back in 2000, when we were junior, at that time you didn't have to do one junior as you do now to go up and intermediate that, but it was all kind of doing with the league places. But remember, junior final, we played in Mulford and with some wild battles in Mulford at that time, they had a good side and we had a good side and we were one of the two best teams in the junior. We played them in the final in 2000, remember coming on as a sub like in 17 or whatever, like in the bidders by a point and I'd like to think this was the biggest game ever, like remember actually going to the final yourselves in Ardra that year and just the senior final thinking that we were going to beat in the junior final but thinking that even to play senior football like was a million miles away at that stage, like you know. But after that then we played a couple of years in intermediate and stuff and then the same, intermediate in 0-5 like we got to the 121Bs in 0-3 and then got to the final of the 121As in 0-4 Ran and Lister and Michael's like and they beat us by a couple of points in the final and that but then 0-5 then was a massive thing for you know, just the club as a whole like intermediate like and then just pushed on like in 0-6 like it was like our first year like and that was what 24 years like, you know, before we played senior first time ever playing senior like and as I say 6 years previous that like when we were playing the junior final never a million miles away like to even think of playing senior football. And do you have a look, you mentioned that at on the 21 team about where it changes you know, I mentioned a couple of guys come in no Francis Martin and you have great guys Eddie Crawford, there was a lot of working on at the club you know, the facilities went up you know, there was a lot of underage coaching there was a team there, you think that as you said, Michael, those names you mentioned can I just give it that backbone that you could really grow from that you know, you need a certain amount of core players to lift it, now you guys were coming through for a start but there was another gang of fellas like it was like a bit of a golden age that had come from and on the 21 side ah, well you probably had maybe there was a mix, a really strong mix you had an older kind of generation you had Jared and Daniels and a lot of the voice artists and Brockas and you know I even played against them in three and four as well it was different football then and Charlie Boner and you had a lot of I suppose lads who were came through them games that Neil was speaking about you know, and then you know, you mixed that then you know, Harry and all and you mixed that then with that 21 group of Neil's really it was a big backbone then not going to name the names of all them but you know, they featured in a lot of the finals there after and you know, it was just that nice mix I liked that mix coming in to see it, seeing the lads that were obviously a couple of years older to see it, to share an address with that older generation to see what they brought to the party and how much love they had for the club and drive they had for the club I think was a good thing to see and a good thing to witness, you know as a young fella you know you're a humility towards that because I remember even talking to you in lockdown and you talked about coming on the Dirty Girl squad when you weren't doing that well but you were saying the joy of joining us and playing with us, you know was so important in your time there and I always thought that's such a nice thing it made me feel a bit better with the nearly side but you know I appreciate that too because when I first started playing I got to play with Tony Boyle inside I couldn't believe it like when I walked out on the pitch you know, there was an excitement about that that it's on real need but for this man here when you were seeing what he was doing and what he was coming up with what was it like as a teammate realising that when you seen him operating at 18, 19, 20 that lesson he's going to be playing with me the next X amount of years and he's just going to get better and better what was the feeling at the club around Michael? Ah well that's like it's so much like it helps like when you're on a bit of record and players too but like he's not going to admit it like but when Michael came on to it was massive you know what I mean like it was even that final we got to when we played just 07 like you know he was like 18 or whatever at the time but he was our best player then like and he was our main man then like and just from then on like it's more so the way that I suppose the younger anybody came on and even the older fellas like they'll ask you know what you just said there we were like the older boys in our club will fade off playing what's the man stuff like that you know and I suppose the leadership other fact is the fact that he doesn't just sit on the square and just look for the ball and like he'd be working away tackling harrying away and sailing and other boys fade off that like and now like for us to know that was great you know from whatever 05 whatever when he came on and all that you had a kind of a focal point and stuff and now it was just from to go on then the whole way up to 11 and then we'd be knocking on the door for a few years and then 2010 then a member of the game against Glenty's out here in the Donald Park and we'd been like I think maybe three points up or something or whatever and going not too bad in the semi-final and then they ended up beating us like a two let goals like a two goals at the end of two Thompson's and beat us by like I think four or five points like and the members thinking after that that's so far away even to get back to another semi-final again like you know what I mean never mind even trying to get to a final and like we did like and now that was all built up like but at the same time we had players, Michael, Hamid Kilmick Fadden and boys that came on that were like you know Rick Crawford was playing and Rick had you know players there like you know forget half you know not name them all not to forget them but you know you can't name them all but you needed a good like as well as having Michael never like I remember you used to watch a lot of your club football and watch a lot of synduines like like Adrian McClaffery and McKinley and you know Johnny Scannell and the members thinking once and all like these boys are brilliant players like they'll seven, seven, eight or ten every day like you know and like even the Clinties they have it now they have superstar players and stuff but they have a while every player there is a great solid club player like and we kind of found that as well that we had plenty of that and you need them like you know yeah that's mad that the mindset was there and it was great to be honest because what was going to happen in the years after very quickly after it was going to turn all that on the edges we're going to become champs and want to get your thoughts on that we're going to take a quick break first we'll be back after these The DL debate with sister Sarah's Laddercanny serving food you'll love 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start you're made captain of the senior team did you did you feel straight away that there's going to be something special hi listen it was a good few years looking back on it fairly probably early 2009 the winter 2009 was kind of that bad-ish I think it was a it was a bad winter the fall winter was a bad winter but anyway remember we trained with under 21s in the RR with Jim ahead of a 21 campaign I suppose you know previous 21 campaigns was very much you know training the seniors and you know number maybe a month two months six weeks before the championship you would get together but that was certainly a difference I suppose straight away with Jim which was very much we were getting prepared from November October November that year we were getting prepared for an under 21 campaign but you loved that maker that was that's the way you wanted it in fairness like it was it was brilliant the conversations at that stage with them around football and around preparation that's exactly what you were you were you were suppose you were craving don't get me wrong it was hard work it was damn hard work but it was constant and there was standards and levels brought to it that you just had a maybe a gut feeling in your own head it was the right way to go around it listen there's no doubt about it then the results thereafter play a big part in it you know remember still to this day one in that first game against Armaa and Anna Skellen and that under 21 campaign like it was a that for that you know it was a tough type of a game but we came out on the right side of it and that all of a sudden maxed the results were there the training the preparation worthwhile and probably a snowball since then and lots of wild belief in it and we had a lot of work done got through one on Ulster one on Ulster under 21 was a great feeling and yeah as I say final that day probably didn't play our best you know we played well in every game up until that didn't play our best that day we still hung in there Leo Kelly Morris made a good goal that day but I couldn't get the third one but yeah listen wasn't to be but that was probably April May time and championship then the show got back in the road then it wasn't long for you know we came in for after John Joe's time the show got back in the road you know it was some turnaround I suppose Michael and I suppose being bestowed with honour being captain you know a lot of people looked at that because he had some serious experience guys and there who you might have thought was a safe I suppose most managers would go for the most experienced player there but I mean you were far from the most experienced but I think there was a sense there Jim knew what you were about to become and we all realised now that that was the perfect position but at the time you expecting to become captain were you happy with that? Definitely wasn't expecting it like I remember getting the call at the time again at the house I remember taking the bedroom I remember talking about it but I suppose I had known working with Jim for that year to 18 months prior to that you know the role of a captain people think is you know it's massive but you know with him and the setup that he put in place it was very much you know you had to try and hard and perform well you know and the captain even up and took the toss really for him that kind of way so when I came with the seniors I knew that those are the things you could control you could try and hard and fairness I had the three to four years there prior to that with the best bunch of books you could have and you know Neil and Kav and Cassidy and you know the McGee's and the boys you know and they were all there as Christie they were all there as former captains too so I knew myself that there's no I didn't think that there would be any huge issues I wouldn't say that type of way and they weren't going to stop but they were doing in terms of the lead and they were at so you know it doesn't I can't remember about them down the phone yes but you know I took it on that type of listen we're glad you did I'm sorry your dad is throwing me on the question I wanted to put a question about your physicality Michael you joined us when you were 17 and I always tell the story we were training out in the park and I ran into you and I was like I was like rolling down the wall I was thinking to myself how is this man in this type of you look at young boys coming through now young players they need a few years to be ready physically you were ready how much of that Michael was in your jeans in your make up on how much were you already doing gym because you were in a serious physical shape from a very early age I don't know I don't know much about it I've had a lot of eating I've had too much eating but no I wasn't probably I'd do the gym right but I remember probably in the early years when I was that age I was kind of injuries in the winter months quite a lot I remember two operations maybe one in the knee one in the hip and just for them winter months probably myself and James Pat actually remember me and I'm just literally going to the gym for the two winters like you know and looking back what we were doing maybe it wasn't the best of you know best of program stuff but it was just consistent and we lifted and we pushed each other on and I always remember winter with them and all that type of way we left and made it for him a bit of a bulk definitely stood to you Michael let me tell you Neil switch over and back between because this was a phenomenal few years for the two of yous and Glenn Swilly and Donny Goll you apparently had a special training regime where you took a bike to Burns's Bar and you would you would drink and cycle back Murphy was in the gym you were cycling to Burns's Bar having a lot of shanties and cycling backwards, where did this come from? No, no, I just made up that one. It's folklore, is it? What made it go? It must have put something under the legs, it only got better. No, listen, I did do about a bike an hour until I remember the back end of 2011 but it wasn't. Right, fair enough but Neil, so the county was kicking off in 2011, a lot of new things in place, you know we had this huge monkey of Ulster, first and foremost nobody was thinking about anything else and Jim had come in and the sense around the county was something was going to happen here but you know, in your mind again you were saying about the doubts at club level that we're going to be right what were you thinking at the start of that season because we heard all about all interviews and downings and how things became from what you would call amateur to professional, it seemed to just happen overnight. I mean, we had all watched on and seen what had happened with the 121s and the run they went on and stuff like that and I suppose that meeting and downings like whatever it was in November and stuff like it just, I suppose we were there a good part of the day and stuff and do you know what, Bren, we just kind of trained and trained, like I suppose we thought as players we were training hard but really and truly like we weren't and Jim just, you know, he was there every night, you know, having Rory pushing us on and making us train hard and you know, I suppose then I remember looking on or whatever at games and different things thinking that you know, you could just see that something special was happening and everybody was kind of, as a squad pushing each other on because everybody wanted to be playing and I was like, jeez, do you know what I'm doing some effort here because like you don't want to mess out on things like that, you know what's happening like and I just think the way the whole way the first game actually we played in the league, I think Slago I think Neil McGee, Hardee's hamstring and put him on full fard, I don't know where there's no subs left and they end up getting a go We were at points down in that game at a stage and went in the league or whatever and then just the championship then was just like I'll always remember that final loss against Derry like up and Clonus because again as for like Watson, Lexus & Juniors and Glent is all one of the championships of the club, seeing the Lexus Theron and our man like and you know played with yourself for a lot like with the county and do you know an odd day, I mean we caught them an odd day 0-4 against Theron and 0-7 against our man but not consistently but seeing them one and like you're mad they won it like and then eventually they get over the line and was was was a great feeling like you know and because it had been 19 years since Dunnegal since it won it like it just yeah it was Hardee know what to kind of Hardee know what to do but that was enjoyable like you get on your bike they burn the bike well what happened actually there was a story about the bike here we go look it's just coming out driver there was a story about the bike one time we went home and jumped on the bike and made it maybe 100 yards up the road and ended up in a ditch but it actually did and 2011 then after the Dublin game no no sorry after the champ after like Glenn Swolley normally you know when you normally when the club season finishes like the county then doesn't start until Christmas or whatever but I remember actually after we finished we put it all through with Glenn Swolley and I remember actually you know I'm gonna take a wee break but I was like do you know what and I remember actually did get on the bike I used to meet Sean Riley he was the fuzzy one in the town and go way up Glenn Carrow way up them hulls and stuff like because kind of in my head then was that you know we'd been on out of the team in 11 and I was like you know what you need to train like a dog here and get on the team because everybody wants to be playing like you know what I mean and that was no different like and that's where I've done my best part of the training on the bike that's what I remember that's what I remember being on the bike leave the bike now if you want to be as good as Neil Gallagher on the bike listen we have a question coming in from some man we're going back now to this 2011 club and we're going to have a question after a sad break from a man we had a wee part to play in that the DL debate with Sister Sarah's Laddercanny serving food you'll love till 9pm daily in Sarah's Kitchen and there's free admission entertainment every weekend at Cherrymore kitchens and bedrooms we are now operating out of one new state-of-the-art showroom in Dunnigaltown and we invite you to visit our new 5,000 square foot Dunnigaltown showroom to discover the latest eye-catching designs. 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Good mom Brandon, thanks very much for having me Gary, as I said we've gone through a wee bit of history there at the club something you were involved deeply in of course right across the board in 2011 Gary I just wanted to throw it to you about that season and about I was speaking to you earlier just about a turning point you pulled out a turning point for me on it it was an interesting bit of information on what would help you seize that first championship yeah suppose Brandon you get a big nail there or a jug of water I saw him earlier coming out of the ladle there two big bunches of 24 reds for the big valentines coming up through the roses question David he never flinched you caught him did you? you caught him earlier in the day so what was Brandon we were chatting back about 2011 earlier so we were I remember we were bobbing away and we out the boys and they played Dublin on that Sunday so it was in Croke Park I remember being at the game you'd been at it yourself and it was just one of the turning points in the GA history for the way the game went that day and where the media coverage had gotten at and we were back training out of the club on the Tuesday night so we were and the boys obviously got unfortunately lost on the Sunday so we did it against Dublin and we never no one expected us we were players to see them on the Tuesday evening so we didn't at the club never mind training and little hey we were about to start training and the two boys landed the pitch and trained that Tuesday evening 48 hours after the defeat to Dublin which would have been very very hard for them I know never mind physically but mentally as well it would have been hard for them after being such a high supper up low like that so late into the season but I give everyone a while left in the group so it did and you know we were going easily well at the time that year we won our first ever kind of deal to title back in May so we had never been done before and I think we're good we just might have talked there earlier but the right mix we just had the right mix of players so we had the blend of other lads and experience mixed in with that youthful exuberance and was a nice blend of throughout the team and what about your 40 man back room team I don't think it was that high it was a good bit last night you could see no boarding probably when Jim took over at Dunnegall you brought this real professionalism now you're messing but you had a good crew there but everybody played their part and I don't know you just even got the sense from that that you know no stone was going to be left on turn in terms of the team preparation and stats training you know everything was going to be right and do the players responded to that yeah listen you need the volunteers we were lucky in the club we had good people and people with skills that maybe were that weren't being utilised before and we got them on board and people that were maybe didn't have the exact skills but we're willing to go and learn the skills because they could offer the team something that way whether it was in the terms of body analysis or recording stats like games we're just very lucky with the group of people that we gathered you know and as I said they were all like local fellas and had all had their heart in the right place and wanted the gland to do well and you know without them kind of people behind you you know it's just not possible because we started I don't know I just felt when we come in that year there was a lot of things that we do different maybe not areas that were on tap you know the likes of body all working us and the likes were recording live game stats and that and it gave us a huge edge that year you know and it was a massive way edge over all our teams maybe going in you know and the games and helped our own performance massively during the season yeah fantastic stuff Gary and a lot of good things been done since someday you may get the union's job I'm up with union's college that'll do you Gary 100% thank you so much for the words I'll be speaking as the season goes on alright ok no problem appreciate it man thanks very much Gary Mcdeod there great chat he was a great character he done a lot of the club in terms of getting that ship right and making you the dangerous force in that championship I lost him without a doubt he was instrumental like he was big into but he still is big into the details and you know he put a really huge vision there along with everybody else and the whole background team he mentioned it was a real club effort and fairness right up onto that you know when you're sitting speaking about it all back through the years I think the club was very much like that everybody tried to help out in the every way he can fairness Gary was very organized that way and you know no doubt again he'll go and help out and the club again is already helping out and he retains again so he'll he'll push that on there again so yeah instrumental part and you know we're very very lucky to have him through them through them years you know he was a great man and you know memories of 2011 Michael you your first finally scored 1-7 alright my first final scored 1-7 that's probably the only similarity I have we got a left behind after that but I have this etched memory I'm up in the gantry watching the game Big deal gets the ball my eyes went worse Michael you did the wee nudge inside and that was that the goal in that game 16 was that the right I'll get mixed up on my right Joe Gibbons kicked it on the Michael right right right I'm getting that mixed up I have that memory but I was just saying there was a good telepathy between the two of yous in terms of hitting this man inside and finding them with the right ball I was only James Parts scored was it outside that in the final you have so many challenges I'm getting mixed up now you see but listen that thing of 11 the sadness of losing that semi you know because you had a system we had a system and you just felt it needed that something extra which was going to happen the following season so listen we won the championship brilliant stuff you know you're in the 2012 you know there's a lot of stuff on the county champions you know what was the start of that season like you know now listen we can match up to everybody we've got the monkey off our back you know was there a feeling in there was it just listen just try him on Ulster again or did in the back of your mind were yous thinking or was Jim saying we can win the whole Ireland definitely Alex was just speaking for myself it definitely felt like Neil mentioned something there and he alluded to like coming off the back of 11 you know he mentioned about he wanted to get back in the road again and just no doubt the doubling game was disappointing it was got wrenching but got the taste of it and got the thirst of it you just wanted to get back and get the show on the road and did that fairly fairly quickly there after boys kept at the gym you know they kept kept going at things throughout the winter and you know I think it made no you know didn't really you know Mick and I you know questions about it in terms of we needed to improve on the side of the game and I think that was done you know a lot through that through that winter months and didn't have a great didn't have a great league that year in 2012 just about last minute there was a score Armaa again I think Armaa I think we just about stayed up in the league that year memory serves me right Is that the tough training that you're doing Mick or you just weren't that worried about the league? I think we emphasised every game every game you went out to go and try and one you know you just you knew you come championship then it was you know how big a championship game was you know that kind of way and first game against Kevin that day you know the lads they took off wasn't playing that day but they were just they were at a massive level just that physically covering ground up and down that pitch that day against and and Kevin against and Kingsman against Kevin I thought right the shows on the road let's let's let's keep her going and you know then training throughout them summer months like they're like you look back in them now like they were just they're every bit as memorable as the games there you know seven minute games up and down whether it was Randall Park or McCool Park or wherever you're at they were just brilliant and you got on the camp the week before games and it was just you was churning them out enjoying it and I listen the crack was good too like you know and hotels and that kind of thing but it was not just listening to us it was good you know phenomenal year and I've heard this a few days and he loves it you know he loves the competitive nature you know sometimes a training people don't seem that bad where Michael's always ready you know to push it on and set the tone of training if you like and in 2012 of course they pretty much there was very few injuries or anything that year you know you had to kind of force force your way in which he did with with great aplomb and you know the season really kicked off for you then as well. Aye Lincoln and as Michael's receiving the details on the Boston all but even and we used to do the gym work and we spear and Larry Kenny here and do you know this you know you never really looked forward to going to the gym but we did because we had a good gang of boys in around Larry Kenny that used to go on do the jump or blast it out or whatever and then go up to Max Mason get the breakfast after and you know it was great crack like you know and even on the Boston stuff and you're creating a great bond and it was a good thing like when you train hard you don't see the training like you know you feel great after like and it does you know create a good bond but when I remember like in a lot said about 2010 the meeting down and downings but I mentioned this at the dinner dance last Sunday or last Saturday night as well like that before we played that match in Kevin in 2012 like he didn't know you're going to one now you were planning you're hoping to one it when you were training to one all Ireland but we stayed in the sleeve Russell and don't read with the fans at the time but obviously a lesson for doing it all and spoke and spoke so passionately and Michael spoke and do you know I see coming at that meeting like it was it was unreal that was it was I remember that meeting so clearly like and now it was just the training like and like Michael we used to do those types of meetings they drive you on then you know did you feel something different even inside yourself that you know I did I mean I see before some of them like they all aren't final I can't you know see now can't really remember the meetings like but a couple of them stuck out in my mind anyway just I remember another one we stayed in the sand house in the Sand House in Ross and Outlaw before 2013 we played Toronto home in the Championship and I wrote another Savage meeting as well like but I think just 2012 we just trained and trained and trained hard like and you know just everybody like Michael leading so on and so on did in the games like always the first stop leading it out and you just gradually or you just automatically just kind of went with it like and trained hard like and you know say for Michael like he's leading Patrick's inside and McFadden and all like and they're not they're all say they're sprints like it's competitive nature like you know and they're looking to beat each other the sprints and different things they're getting them seven minute games like you know there were more like you know 15 minute games I would say but do you know what people the thrown season were brilliant because a lot of it and especially in the summer time was football like you know and if you're fiddling you're able to you know train play just it was it was great now and it was competitive like I mean around around the middle like a toy and Cavanaugh and Bradley and all them but like and it was just it was hell for the other like you know you just went at it by graphing that championship victories and Michael the launch pad towards all Ireland because I forgot actually in 2011 I'm doing sideline stuff maybe we say and I go run the cross to you I've never invaded a pitch in my life but I ran across because the weight of that even on us like you know once I stop playing I can just do your supporter and then that's it but I made a beeline for you because I still had the headphones on and your boy was like where's Bradley where's Bradley I was out in the pitch we all the crowd after that match it was actually a picture somewhere but Michael that launch pad then ended all Ireland series you know Donegal were certainly being touted as a as a potential team the year before because she did the 2011 the boon and that but then we became a much more counter-attacking force we were posting scores we were having teams hard on the break did you feel in your own mind listen you know this is her year I definitely listen 11 I think was it the monkey off the back I think it was it was a big a big weight a big pressure off even the think in the semi-final I think was a big you know curve you know where I thought we felt where we shared a pitch with them and went toe to toe with them you know and it wasn't just a you know a flash in the pan we were actually there to one and beat them and that was a that was a big one and then again you know the 2012 that that final against down I think was a big launch in terms of it was one and it was one you know comprehensively in terms of you know defended really well and tacked brilliantly you know so yeah going on to the All Ireland series that that time then against Kerry you know it was a big one and you know we played played well it was nip and tuck definitely McFadden had a storm of a game that day having a big game you know let's say again you go through many names but they had you know massive massive games that day and then Kirk yet at Fort Hatton this man riddled through this guy that's right and we were some performers found ourselves in the final and then it was um yeah like going but um but yeah lesson process just talking we were so comfortable in each other's shoes that's the rhythm of the team it'll just look like if you're in doubt and worked hard you did your job everything else with the care of itself you know often take sometimes I'm about to play games and you expected to score this and that and you're we've disjointed from the team maybe whereas we just became a force whereas you do your job and work hard and you'll play well and there was somebody like I looked at the guys I don't mean that no pressure it's always a better pressure but you know you look at guys performances and they look very free they're very very fat number one they were together and they look really free to play in that system you know as if we everything just clicked on the place and you know what it was a very kind of a free system people a look back in it and you know the easy analysis is to say it was very restrictive you know it was very much that way but like it was a very much well-defended type of game you know and you had there's Frank were number four Paddy McGrath Neil McGhee coming up the field with the ball the Rickle has come to them very skillful players myself Pat and Colin they were not the best offensively but you know you enjoyed you did your job it gave you an outlet when you didn't have the ball to go and do something you know so it was no listen it was a very just a free flowing type of game and must say that a lot of boys had a lot of the very good skills of the game you know so now there were good times and fellow great fellows you know Michael just what was your goal at the start of the final you know it's been one of the greatest goals ever in GAA and they scored an all-out in the final you know practically we didn't get it too many but like what was going through your veins when you got that ball and rattled the net it must have been I suppose such a such a lift such a buzz because no matter what going to bed the night before you're thinking you know be a dream that is a forward you know but to do it in that style early on I listen it was probably a mix of everything but relief and just glad to get glad to get a goal to start the game with wasn't playing well that year didn't play well at all really kind of injured early part of the year didn't play well in all Ireland series quarter semi so it was just a good there's a bit of relief in that side to get off and you didn't play well your terms and his heist and others I don't hear anybody say that but I have to ask you one other question match a song you heard a rumor that was a lucky boys thrown a wager on it is this true and you had to remind them is that true about the song I think they might have been a couple of ones from you sang it well you know you wouldn't be up to use Glen boys they were going to make some serious cash on the final but you remember he's the final then of course coming back with a cup and and just I suppose the whole county went absolutely bananas you know I mean it was a phenomenal time you know to be I mean I know when people copied our style it makes obviously for terrible football which we've been locked on the way but but that year the teams didn't copy your style so you're breaking in the space and it was an absolute what a year we had done a goal support yeah but not big scores not in games too like a lot of ones this makes us go back to like restrictive or defensive but that was maybe the game against Dublin that were fairly like was eight six but them other games like they were high scoring games like you know but remember one time Jim said as well like you know that you know in 20 years time like you could you'll meet some you know this was during the season 2012 like you'll meet some of your teammates you know if you won all that and you'll meet them and you're not even just see them in the street you don't even have to say a word like and it is so can I see even now we would hardly ever chat about the games right save we made upward ever what hardly ever mention the games but more so the crack but it in the back of your mind as always the fact that you know you want to learn and like which is which is great like and see going around the county or the clubs after like was the place we couldn't wait actually to get on the bus the next day because you know just so much crack like the night before and stuff like that like and then going around and seeing every every teammate every player got excited going on their own club obviously like more so you know it was great like and no more so than me and Michael and Copper like when we got back to Dublin Swally like on the bus it was exciting like it was it was great just driving on there like and seeing all the people you know Michael was a bit overwhelming at times because anyway he's been up here and talked about you know the pressure he was on thereafter and taking the cup and of course listen everybody wanted Michael Murphy everywhere all the time and cup and that did it get a bit much or did you try and try and stay away from some of it? No listen that week he spoke about there's definitely parts that were for overwhelming because of you know just pride and joy and everything but not listen very fortunately keep saying back I was away to college the next week that type of way and that kind of was you know was able to get away from it that way throughout the weekend you're back home with the weekends whatever for training in that so not listen come here it was just as brilliant and it was a listen it was a dream come true I think for us all in that way you know. Yeah and this brilliant times is he you know he's 13 and 16 the championship for Glen of course stars would follow Michael top score and and everything he did and then we had to come to this day Michael the decision won all the story go people dreaded about calling time in your career Michael just just talk us through what what was your mindset why you decided this was your time? I can I really knew you suppose that that day you know on Clonus that day and you know myself I can I knew myself what's needed I was so fortunate for you know the 15 to 16 years I was able to you know soldier with so many lads managers backroom teams players everything and enjoy it and play for the county loved and play the play the game but I just knew that the energy that was needed to for myself to get back to the level that I wanted to get to that was going to be right for Donegal I just wasn't able to get there you know Michael was it was it a question maybe we party coming on new team that was going to be a bit of a project there did you feel see the way we're talking about you set the tone and training that you think and if you double them high standards that you set for yourself that you wouldn't have been happy with that there's no doubt you could have played a part but that you like to play the part you're always playing which which was our best player and our leader so did you think as time started to catch up a wee bit that that probably you know would annoy you about too much that you weren't able to do the stuff that you were able to do is that kind of the mindset of it I think that's that level that you're able to give to that the level that I wanted to give everybody else give it to and I just don't think that I would have been able to just get there again this year I just had that feeling this year the feeling and Clonus was both that day and you know leaving that change room and going home with the parents and say I can have said that plenty of times since but I just knew it and so I spoke to this man there after and I just said I just don't know if we can get back there that you know listen I'm content with it it would be good to see that good to see the lads back up there and started out as a reporter we'll go back to the games of these boys now and we'll get watching them we'll cheer the boys on again Michael what a career and good luck to whatever club defenders after Marky now when you're coming still of course starting your stuff for the Glenn club Michael listen it's been absolutely phenomenal just watching you all this time from seeing you growing up to the man you become the leader you became taking the very pinnacle of football and your club as well you know never any speed wobbles on there like me and this man you know you just were heart and soul GAA and listen we're blessed to have had you Michael of course many things happen in the future you'll get into a bit of coaching you're working at ATU you and Annie are going to get married soon and plenty of things happen Michael you go to a sports shop and I can imagine there's no end of media people looking this way I'm glad thanks very much for coming up here tonight as well you know because I'd imagine the phones probably happen there with requests so listen loads loads for happening loads to be happening in the next chapter for Michael Murphy Hi listen just to get into it now and I'm back down with the club team and the minors there so we're back there and looking forward to getting stuck in with them we've had a good few years with them and under 20 months as well and again listen a big future now to transition into the club and listen a big future ahead hopefully now in the part of it along with this man and plenty of others and yeah listen keep supporting them they go I don't think we'll ever that'll ever come out of any of us say and yeah look forward to getting to see them again at the weekend you know yeah Michael absolutely phenomenal they're lucky guys to have you out there at the club I wish I was your minor taking heed from this man Paul Neilin for a few words there sometimes you can tell the young boys about the bike there just avoid a burnsies bar here listen that's absolutely brilliant talk come on thank you so much for coming up boys that was brilliant lads I wish you all the best now in the club season coming ahead Neil I heard you played a friendly the other night and you kicked 2-3 at 2011 team against there's a bit of life in this man yet I'll tell you listen that thanks very much the sessions this Monday night sessions is coming up next I want to thank the two guys Gary McGee for the input on the phone there and I'll speak to you all next week