 Our stupid reactions tune in for the It's so weird. Like I feel I've lost track of time. So Right now we've been living in the Twilight Zone. Were you here for Sacred Games or Gully Boy? No, I was there for meeting. Gotcha. But then it was at the back of Sacred Games and it was nominated for the Emmys International. So the awards are going to happen in in New York. And then I said, Oh, it's just a six hour flight. Let's do it. And then I came in and I did my meetings. Yep. It's always, it's always meetings. Talk to people. Talk to people. Exactly. That's that's how that's how it works. Yeah. And then I chilled. And then you had your people. Yeah, it's so weird. No, but I have to tell you this really, really bizarre story of being in LA. I was quite a cultural shock for me. I mean, in the sense that I haven't been to LA in years. I can't remember the last time. I think I was there in like 2011 or something. And it's so bizarre because I feel it's just changed. Or maybe I changed, you know, and I was walking around looking for this place to eat. And it's like, it's even stupid of me to say that I was walking in LA because nobody walked in LA. I was walking in LA and and, you know, finally, I just got tired of walking because there's really nothing to see just roads and gray buildings. So I finally found the stupid square that had like decent amount of food to eat. So when I got myself fries and a salad. And that's a great combination, as you may have already get. But then I just saw the. The postures size of this is male. I couldn't finish the fries. So I walked out with the fries and I thought I would give it to somebody who would be willing to take it off my hand. And there was this person who looked positively homeless. And I almost walked up, almost tapped his shoulder and said, do you want these fries? And this person looked at me and said, no, he didn't even look at me. He just whipped out his phone and it was an iPhone. And I. Doc for my life. I was like, this guy would have like slammed those fries in my face. I'm like, I'm leaving this country now, if I could. I was just like, I was going to the taxi and I told the taxi driver to give it to somebody if he was kind enough to do that. And he said, oh, I'll grab it off you. And then he's like, OK. Yeah, we have a lot of different types of people here in Los Angeles and huge portions as America like this person was homeless. He looked homeless, but he clearly had an iPhone. No, that's just the LA look. That's just how we look. It is absolutely the LA look. There was a guy that there's a friend of mine. His name is Pedro Aosta. She's a really world-renowned woodwind player. And he was at this place where we were doing this event. And I had someone say to me, would you go help that homeless man out of the building? And I turned to him and said, that's Pedro. Yep. No, it's bizarre. Well, it's a pleasure to talk to you. We are. Oh, thank you. Yeah, we obviously, I think like a lot of people were first introduced to you in Sacred Games, even though we know you've been around longer than that. But we were immediately transfixed with you when you came on screen. We actually did episode by episode reactions to each episode. Oh, wow. And we were. If this light is better. I think there's a shadow on my face. Hold on. Is it better? It looks great. Yeah, fine, good. You know, I have the actor syndrome. I just want to make sure. I understand. I totally understand. Awesome. Tell me. No, you're good. Yeah, no. You can episode by episode reaction. Yeah, we did an episode by episode reaction. And we were when you first came on screen, I think we were just raving about you. And then spoiler for anybody who hasn't seen Sacred Games when you died. We were extremely sad. You know what is the most sacred games up to like one and a half years if it's released? That I didn't die. They need to die. Exactly. We were mad. We were angry when you're. I remember our reaction when you died. We were angry that your character is gone because we so enjoyed your character on the show and enjoyed your work. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, you want to see a poster of Sacred Games in my house. Yes, yes, yes. I can't see it. I can't. Oh, there it is. I got it. Yeah, that's great. I haven't seen one of just you on it. That's awesome. Yeah, if somebody comes to deliver food to my doorstep and they don't know who I am, I'm like. Have you seen Sacred Games? It's like, what? I don't even know who I am. Me? Just like I would judge for my existence. Yeah, but we were extremely impressed that because we consider we got to interview Nawaz for an interview and we think he's one of the greatest actors we've ever seen and the fact that you went in there and were able to hold your own and go toe to toe in your scenes with Nawaz was so impressive to us. And so all the credit goes to you and obviously on your ag and the writers, of course. But you did a phenomenal, phenomenal job. Thank you. Thank you. I honestly thought it was really easy to be with Nawaz because he has a person. He's so quiet and I am like the chatty one. You know, he's just like, he's like the dormant cat. He's not going to fight back. He's just going to be like, yeah, fine. You know, he's like, just that person. Just come here, bite my ear. Just leave. You know, just don't fuck me. You know, he's just that person. And he just allowed me to be the nutcase that I am, just around him. Like I would just walk up to him, hug him, give him a kiss on his cheek and like, come on, let's make love. Yeah. Yeah, he, I imagine. I don't know how to react. Come on then, let's go make love. I'd imagine he makes it very easy to work with in terms of just. So easy. You know, I mean, when you are remotely kind of, you know, if you are witness to the star culture that we have in India, then you'll know that every star comes with an entourage, you know. And I think now that I'm at the entry level celebrity stage of my life, you know, like now I know that I have like all my managers outside my vanity van and then I have, you know, somebody who's doing my hair and makeup and then I have somebody who's doing my costume. And that's pretty limited. But I know people who have like, you know, their friends and family and entourage and, you know, somebody to just like carry a dumbbell. Somebody to carry a bottle of water and whatnot, right? And I would imagine Navar's having the kind of repertoire he has in terms of his work to be a person like that. And he's anything but that. He just blends into the corner that you put him in. And he would just stare and he would just met, he would just become that place. And because he was wearing a lot of those loongies, you know, the wraparound skirt that you have, like. And he would like be sitting with his foot up, you know, rolling maybe a cigarette with his, you know, with his loongie in his mouth. And you can't even notice the guy because everybody looks homeless on an Anurag Kashyap set. That's funny. With this one guy with like a walkie who just walked up to like one homeless guy on the set and be like, it's your shot. And that's when you realize it's, you know, Navar Zatine Siddique who's walking to set. Zero frills, zero around the guy. He's just so grounded, so down to earth. It was a pleasure to just chill with him. You know, the one thing that he told me that I think is going to stay with me for the rest of my life is, so there was this one day where, you know, the schedule was a little haphazard and we were waiting to like get on set. And we were waiting for like about maybe two hours or three hours. And I can't sit in my vanity van. I've got ants in the pants. I have to step out and talk to somebody. Someone was making chai or somebody was doing something. I just can't sit. So I just knocked at his door and I say, hey, what are you doing? And he's like, nothing, chilling. I'm like, hey, I'll come chill with you. He's like, sure. So what you do is vanity van. I sat with him and I said, it was like, you know, more of one of those gossip magazine questions. So I was like, so like, how do you deal with all the waiting? And he looks at me and he says, mother ma, you are waiting for this. You are waiting for this. I was waiting for my whole life. It simply means to say you're calling this waiting, like waiting for two hours is waiting for you. Right, dude. So this is like it. And I'm just like, yeah, okay. I don't want to chill with you anymore. I'm leaving. You're having for me, man. I'm leaving. Too deep. Too deep man. Filmsets are all about waiting. Yeah, yeah. Go ahead, Rick. Well, one of the things I wanted to know was when did you first want to be an actor? Was it since childhood? Was it later on when you started to do things on stage? Because I know you started speaking first. Did you not? Yeah. Oh yeah, like I reached, done. Yeah. Well, I mean, I mean like you were emceeing and you were emceeing and hosting. It's strange if I started acting. I mean, I think I was acting up before I was, before I learned how to speak, but. You started talking first, right? Like first, first. I love that. That's great. No, I'll end up. I love you, Ricky. No, I wouldn't really tell the difference between antics performance, you know? Like when you're up to your antics and you're like being this entertainer or if you're just keeping people smiling or whatever, as a child, you know, you're given that leeway to do whatever you want, just because someone else doesn't have to entertain you. This child is self-sufficient and he or she will entertain themselves. Well, they're probably that one day I would do this. But I don't think it was ever really the idea of doing it professionally. I just didn't ever think of it professionally. I started hosting events or speaking on stage, like when I was maybe 16 years old. And every time I would finish a show, I would get a check or receive an envelope, which would be called pocket money. So my mom never allowed me to ever think that I was earning out of this bizarre activity of speaking on stage. And then, you know, she kind of pushed me in the direction of having a secure job, like working where, you know, your neighbors and your friends and your family would be proud of you. And that's exactly what I did because that's when I moved to Dubai for the very first time. It was the first flight I had ever taken in my life. And eventually, after finding jobs after jobs, I worked at Microsoft three years. Oh. I realized I hated it. And then I said, I think I want to go back and do something on my own. And that's what brought me to Mumbai. Now, the weird thing about moving to Mumbai when you're an adult is that you've already decided you want to be an actor. It's just what the city brings with it. It's the nature of the beast. You know, it's like, oh, what are you gonna do with Bombay? And you're like, I'm gonna be famous. I'm gonna be an actor. Yeah. No. But who does? The thing that I came with, but I think I was, I was very honest with myself. Like my first film that I did or my first outing when I saw myself on screen, I know I wasn't an actor there. I couldn't bring myself to say I'm an actor. I've done projects before sacred games and I could never call myself an actor because I would look at myself and I'm like, that's not acting. I can see myself in that and that's not acting. I'm not being anybody else. That's just me, me saying lines of somebody who's supposed to be there in that blade at times. I think it was 2017, a show called Going Viral happened for me, it was, it is on Amazon Prime. I think that was the first time that I acted because I had somebody breaking me out of the psyche of my acting that I knew. So for me, acting was more like, you know, like anything exaggerated and like, if I heaved inside at the end of a line, I thought I was acting. God. And then I remember the associate director on the show told me, why are you doing that? Is there something wrong with you? And I'm like, not yet, why? And he's like, maybe you should just see the line for what it is and how it is on paper. You mean you don't want the size? He's like, yeah, avoid them if you can. And it looked like a couple of takes and made me do them without the size. And that's the first time I felt something shift inside you. When you weren't compensating the lines with a physical gesture, gesture, I don't know how you say it. When I realized I wasn't doing that, because it wasn't just from the top, it was something inside you that was saying the line. And I think I kind of started stammering. And I think when sacred games happened, I didn't have to call myself an actor anymore. It's like weird that the whole world started calling me an actor. And then it just became an accepted reality of my life. So then I'm like, hey, do you know who you talking to? Actors. How did the opportunity of getting to do sacred games and working with Anyard Kashi up come about? Cause we got to talk to him as well. And he says he never worked with anybody he can't trust. And so did you already have a relationship with Anyard before sacred games? Yeah, it was a really interesting relationship I'd say. So again, this is a story that not too many people know. The first apartment that I ever lived in Bombay, like the first building that I ever moved into, I moved into an apartment number called 201, like a flat number called 201. And 402 was inhabited. You had Anurag Kashyap residing in there. And I never said hi to him. I never spoke to him. I always knew he lived there. And I had no courage to walk up to him and say, hi, I'm Kubra Seth and I want to be an actor. I had no courage. But it's so bizarre on the 30th of November, the first day of the shoot, we finished shooting and he said, I live right here. And I'm like, yeah, I know where you live. He's like, eww, I don't know where I live. And I'm like, because I've been your neighbor for like a year and a half. I didn't want to tell you I want to be an actor. Apparently like Anurag's and his handyman, his man Friday knows everything about my life, knows what car I used to drive when I lived there, my cat, my mom, conversations with my mom and everything. And literally it's like just Anurag and I had never met. But I think really something that he, I think he trusted in me more than I trusted my own self. I just had one directive from him, just one and it was not act in this particular way. He just told me once you're on this set, you can't be uncomfortable. Because if you're uncomfortable, if you at any point are uncomfortable, then you make everyone else uncomfortable. So just make sure if anything ticks you, bothers you, just speak to all the 80s. And finally his team has such a wonderful, diverse talent who works with him very closely. Most of them are women. And he was like, if anything bugs you, just reach out to one of my assistants and just tell them that this is bugging you. And yeah, I never felt uncomfortable in that set, in that setting. It was warm, welcoming and it was freedom, freedom to do whatever you wanted. And he would just guide you and he would just maneuver you. Yeah. I think that's what made that part so beautiful. Yeah. Yeah, he's also said that he does most of his filming as often as he can with the camera as far away from the actors as possible. Yeah, was that your case as well? Like even your tight shots with Nawaz, was he kind of back and zoomed in on you to give you space? Yeah, I would never remember ever having to cheat with the camera when he's there. That's amazing. Because when you go to like an acting school, I reckon, I haven't been to one, but when I believe when you go to an acting school, you know they teach you technical stuff. Like how do you cheat? To say somebody is taller than you, shorter than you, it's your close up shot. How do you look at the edge of the camera? I think I had one cheat shot that I had to do, which is, you know the scene, I don't know if you remember, but like the scene where you have his money guy, Nawaz's money guy sitting with him and bitching Cuckoo out completely and says, yeah, yeah, you know, Cuckoo, you know, she's got that extra space in there and stuff like that. And she's overhearing. She's outside the door, right? Yeah, that was the only time when I had to look at the edge of the camera without blinking. I knew that something that I had never done in my life and it was very different from anything that I had ever imagined to do because that's when Anrak pointed out to me that for me, my performance happens when I know I have eye contact across the room. Being a stage person, you know, you're like making eye contact from, you know, to the length and the breadth of the room. And through acting, you have literally one focal point and you're like concentrating there because you don't know where your audience is beyond that. But to assume that your audience is that one point on the camera at that one point, you know, near the lens and be transfixed there and seeing everything without seeing anything, I think that was a learning for me. And I honestly think that you can't have a better school than learning on the job. And I think Murag is a wonderful teacher because he's not about himself at that time. He's about you. He wants to make sure that you look good. You look fine. You look right. You look convincing. And he's doing everything for that other person in the frame, which is incredible. I mean, yeah, it was pure genius. That's a huge blessing for an actor to be able to have that freedom on camera where you don't need to worry about your- Yeah, he would just walk. Do whatever you want. This is your, and I'm like, what? You're not going to tell him to stand? You're not going to tell him? Yeah. He's like, no, whatever. My camera is good at where you are. That's fantastic. So we would first rehearse the scenes and then we'd go for it. That's so fantastic. I did want to ask you, we obviously loved you in that role. Can't see anybody else in it, but I did want to ask you what was your feedback from that? Because here in Hollywood, I don't know if it's reached Bollywood. If somebody who wasn't transgender played a transgender person, there would be a lot of backlash because people don't think actors can, you know, act. Act. But also it's a double-edged sword, obviously. You want to have the representation of those actors, but you also want the best person to play that role. So did you experience any of that or what are your opinions on that? I think the day the news came out that I was playing this role, I was actually shitting myself because the show hadn't come out. So I thought you're going to cut the part out straightaway because I wasn't allowed to speak about it. And then my PRH put up a picture of what my look was. And I thought I was going to cut my part like overnight from the show. I was so scared. Even though it was on your own kashyap, you thought that maybe on your own might not be controversial. You cannot put Anura's kashyap and you can't like not have controversial in the same sentence. Right, right, exactly. It's literally that, fish to the water. I mean, that's how it is. But I was really, really worried. But the day, you know, they put out my picture in the newspaper and a few dailies picked it up saying, what are you talking about? You know, when they picked it up, I think that was the day that we read Scarlett Johansson received flak for the portrayal of a transgender character on screen. And then she apologized and said, I don't want to play it. But I mean, look at this, okay? I'm talking about last year and you've had a show like Pose come out. I have gone on to the internet to see how many characters there were transgender. I mean, there are writers who were transgender, directors, performers who were transgender on the show. Now, but that is a collective effort to represent a segment of the society who are actors, performers, you know, on screen. Unfortunately, the segment has had so much harder. So it has had it so much harder here in our country, you know, just to fight for their basic rights. Yeah. Basic rights of acceptance. Forget about performance. Yeah, right. Basic rights, like would you allow me to travel with you in the same bus? Right. Or am I allowed to visit a place of worship? Yeah. Am I allowed to wear my identity through my clothes, to love whoever I want to love? I think that has been such a difficult situation for the segment of the society that I don't think we've had representation, you know, for them as an actor community in our business. One, two, I did ask Anurag the same question, you know, when the news came out. I have to be very honest. I was very greedy. They asked me to play a transgender. Hell yeah, I'm playing it. Heck yeah, you want to, you bet. I'm doing it, you know. It was work for me. I said I'm doing it. But when this news came out, I actually reached out to Anurag and I asked him, I said, did you audition Transgender's probably? And he said, yes we did, but nobody fit the part. And we needed somebody who would pull the part off with the kind of conviction that you did. Exactly. And over the time of the release, like the show released and then people watched it, I have met people who have auditioned for it. Like girls and guys, guys even. Yeah. And I think for me, the most humbling compliment was when people who auditioned for the part said, man, nobody could have played it better than you. Yeah, 100%. I'm just grateful. I'm grateful for that kind of love that they've had for this character and the kind of respect that when you put your ego aside and say, hey, you know what, I could have done better. Because I think we always have this, as human beings, we tend to be like, really, if you would have given me that opportunity, I would have shown you. Yeah. But these actors who I met are so enormous as people, in their own personalities, that never, for once, was I told that, you know what, you could have done it differently. Yeah. They also said that you did a good job and thank you so much for the representation. Because I think what I did was create a space for representation for the community without realizing it. Yeah. Absolutely you did. I think that's what I did. I think that was something, that was a shot in the dark, you know. I don't know if the makers were coming with that point of view, but I know I was just being greedy for the opportunity. I didn't know that it's gonna do something for people or give those people a voice to speak. Yeah. I think what, like eight months later after the show released, section 377 was abolished in our deep, and literally I receive phone calls saying, hey, you know what? You can love whoever you want. And I'm like, I think I'm doing that. What? Well, when we watched it, I think one of the things that was a benefit to that character was the fact that so many people didn't know who you were. Because like we said, that was our first exposure to you. And I remember watching it. Outside of Gully Boy. You were so outside of Gully Boy. We didn't even realize we had seen you in Gully Boy. But I remember watching it and either Corbin said it to me or I said it to him and said, is she transgender? I was waiting to find out, is this actor transgender? Because you were that believable as the character. And I think that was a big contribution to it. And that was the LGBTQ community. What did friends and family, were they all supportive of you playing Cuckoo? Were they like the character you were playing? And obviously you're working with Nawaz and on your own. Yeah, but I don't think, you know, my family came from, you know, the fact that, oh, this is who you worked with. So it's fine. You can go murder a person. No, you know what I mean? Yeah. You know, and Anurag has a lot of killing people in his shows. But I think for my, I think for like, so, I said this in one of my stories. When I received the offer to do this, my mom was still my manager. So I called my mom and I told my mom that, you know what, like, and she's been a single parent for a long, long time. And I told my mom, I said, ma, you know what, you've been wearing a bulletproof jacket this entire time of your life, trying to like ward off people and, you know, fight for us. But what's coming up now is a bazooka. So just build yourself a bunker. Yeah. What I said. Like this was big. So I kind of prepared her for, you know, the eventuality of it being completely like written off. And I was pretty sure that it could have gone the way that it did, or it could have completely backfired. Sure. But then literally she watched the show. And I remember my brother watched the show in his living room. And my mom watched the show on her phone in the bedroom. And they both finished the show. They both walked out from what I hear. My brother said this, you know, mom had tears in her eyes and my mom has never said she's proud of me. Like, yeah, like it's forbidden. My mom has forbidden people in my house to say that I'm beautiful. She wouldn't let that happen. So my mom would never say I'm beautiful because apparently it gets to my head, but then I am, but whatever. But my mom, for the very first time in her life, said I'm proud of you. And I think I didn't need any more validation. I didn't need any more acceptance. My mom liked it. My mom was comfortable. And that was, and she wore it like a badge of honor. And I think that was enough. One of my favorite things you said in an interview was that you, somebody asked you if you did research into being transgender and you said, no, I'm a human. I was playing a human. And I think that's really beautiful. And I love that's how you thought. Because I think that's the problem with sometimes and it also happened a couple of years back when gay characters were being introduced and it was like very stereotypical flamboyant gay people as opposed to just real people, even though there are flamboyant gay people. But it was just, and that's why I think your character was so impressive because it was almost secondary that she was transgender. Exactly, yeah. It wasn't, you're playing a transgender, you were playing this person do happen to be transgender. And so I think it was, I think it was brilliant. So I just wanted to tell you that. I love that. Thank you. Yeah, absolutely. But I did want, have you been in now, I'm sure you're getting tons more opportunities. I know you have something on Voot coming out this next week, right? Which is exciting. Have you found out that people are trying to typecast you into the same cuckoo role? No, I'm extremely lucky. If I can say lucky or, I don't know. I think cuckoo came out at the time when people were far more woke than they were, say 10 years ago. Yeah. When we were speaking about a stereotypical character playing gay. So, that person would be the leading lady's best friend. War peculiar clothes did something that was stereotypically would qualify to be gay. And then that probably does not exist as for the society that we live in. But it was what it was as it was portrayed on camera or on screen. But I said this with a lot of conviction then and I say it now. I think there was this collaboration of films like anthropology of films, anthropology of films. Is that how you say it? How do you say it? Anthology. Anthology, anthropology, is it? Yeah, anthropology is the study of human beings. Anthology is, yeah. Anthology, sorry. So it's the anthology of films, like a series of films that was made on 100 years of cinema. And there were, you know, like, I think four filmmakers. So there was Anurag, Debakar Banerjee, Zoya and Karan, who made films. We remember this, yes. And there was a gay character in Karan's film and there was a child who was a little, you know, effeminate in, I think, Zoya's film. And it took 100 years to bring, you know, that spectrum of a child discovering who he or she is and a man standing up to say, I'm in love with another man. Yeah, right. It was married. It took them 100 years to bring that kind of realism to cinema and through a story. And literally this happened a few years later. So I said, it's taken them 100 more years to give a realistic character to a transgender. If another story like this as real has to come, I'm in queue, don't no problem. I'll do it, but I'll do it like maybe another 10 years later or another 10 years later. Because now anything that you do will always be compared to Cuckoo. Yeah, right. I try to play around that character, around, you know, whatever. It'll always be compared to that. So I don't know if we have it in us to take that kind of a risk to play such a character, but at the same time, I think it would be disservice to play it lightly, to write a character that's loose. Absolutely. Write a character that is against stereotypical. You know, I think that would be the greatest disservice that a creator can do. Yeah. I'm so glad that nothing has been offered to me so far. And if it is offered then, I think now I'm in a place to say, I think you should audition transgender actors for it. Yeah. Yeah. So what's coming up for you that we need to know about and that you're excited about and the stupid babies we were watching should be paying attention to that's coming up for you? I have a show called Illegal that's coming out in boot. It doesn't stream in the United States, but it does stream in India. It's basically a show that works on the legal system of our country. And I think like every legal system across the world, our legal system also has loopholes. And I think what they've tried to reach out to through this show is how, yes, everybody's looking for justice, but in the course of finding justice through the legal system, are we giving enough credits to humanity? All human rights. So I play this character who is actually based out of a real story that happened in India where she killed, like she murdered. She murdered seven members of her family along with her boyfriend, like someone she loved, and she's on death row. And she has served life imprisonment, but she hasn't been hung or hasn't been executed yet because we don't have female executioners in our country. Oh. Yeah, that's a great thing. So my story is a subtle digression into, you know, the candidate for the story by itself, but I got this brilliant opportunity to play this mad, aggressive, outraged woman who just is so angry with the legal system because she knows what she's done is wrong. But you've already proved that it was wrong. You said you're gonna kill her. What the hell are you, why the fuck are you not getting done with it? Right. Just get on with the program. Like, why? That's awesome. Because it's not easy to live in jail. I don't think it's easy to live in jail. I went to the biggest jail that we have in our country once when I was hosting a show for the inmates. I was hosting a show for the rapists and the murderers in jail. And I got the opportunity to speak to like a few serving officers there. And it was bizarre because that jail was formed or established when the British ride was on. And it was a place to keep 4,000 inmates and there are 20,000 inmates there. And about 60% have never even been on trial because nobody wants to represent them. Wow. And they're just in jail. And I think that is violation of human rights. Yeah, so they don't have like a right to an attorney? Yeah, they don't have right to an attorney. You do not have enough public prosecutors. Wow. Interesting. You know, or you don't have people who are gonna fight their case pro bono. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I think for me it was an interesting opportunity to play this mad character called Meher Salam. She is just angry. I know she's angry. She's very angry. Yeah. There are a lot of screaming and shouting. Yeah. Well, that sounds awesome. I wish Voot was in America because there's a few shows that we've seen and that it looks really interesting but they just don't play it. I'm actually watching a show as we speak. It's called Aasur. Aasur means the demon. Yeah, I think we watched the trailer for that one. Yeah. We saw the trailer and when we were in India there were billboards for it. Yeah, I think it was, it's a fantastic show. I like how beautifully the show, you know, is, it's so detailed. You know, it's just not something that's been written without research. Yeah. And every, like the mind of the criminal, the mind of the guys who are solving the puzzle, everybody's so sharp and so clever. And it's wonderful. Chase, I really think we're making some really good stuff these days. Have you watched Made in Heaven? No, we, that's all, there's a couple of TV shows that, because since we react to the episodes live and it's making it much more difficult via in quarantine to do that but there's a few, that's one of them with Zoya's Made in Heaven. It's such a good show. Oh my God. Really wanna watch it. I don't know if you've seen Rick's tattoo though. No, I haven't. Rick, show your tattoo. Up my, oh my God. I thought you'd appreciate that since you're a gully boy. Zoya. Yeah. I think somebody sent it to Zoya. We haven't heard specifically from Zoya. Somebody we know that knows her very well, took a picture of it and sent it to her but I don't know if she's seen it or if Rambeer or Alia have seen it. Here, I have a fan of Rambeer's things. Oh yeah, even Corbin even more than me, a fan of Rambeer. Come on, son. He's wicked. Yeah, he's fantastic. I love his energy. I could have played the microphone in that film if I had to. I mean, I couldn't see a few lines. I was grateful. I mean, I could have played like, I don't know, the boom box. I don't care. I would have just been there, like a statue in the film. I don't care. That was our first, because we've only been doing this for a little over a year now, exposure to Indian. That's the famous. Yeah, the gully boy was the first film we saw in theaters of Indian content. Yeah. And did you have subtitles when you watched it? Yeah, yeah. So obviously, here in America obviously, there's always subtitles in everything that's in theaters here, the limited amount that they show here. But yeah, that was the first one and that was the first trailer we had ever seen of anything India. And that's how it got us into this world of knowing about India. It was gully boy. So it was your film. What a good film. Oh, it is. One of our favorites. I love that film. I think it's such a beautiful, beautiful film. And talking about like really fun films, like films that you must watch during quarantine, there's a film on Amazon Prime. It's called Javani Janeman, which basically means my youth is my love. Javani Janeman? Yeah. Are you on that one? Yeah. Yeah, so that's your site, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, we were reacting to it. Yeah. We were reacting to that. Thank you. No, we watched that trailer reaction. Because that's the first thing we were introduced to Saif Ali Khan was Sartaj. And that's what we call him. We call him Sartaj. We call him Sartaj all the time. Yes. So I got to play this beautiful character in this film. And she's anything but me. She's anything but me. And then it was such a great experience working on that film. And it just came out in March. No, no, no. No, at the end of Jan. Sorry. We changed like the whole calendar. But anyways, as you said, Rick, we're in Twilight Zone, so it doesn't really matter where we are. Yeah, exactly. Time means nothing. Exactly. Time means nothing. It's all relative right now. So yeah, it was released on the 31st of Jan, I think. And it's a very cool film. It's very happy. It's a very happy, light, easy to watch film. How was the difference between that with Saif playing more of a comedic role and then Sartaj? Since you've got... Yeah. Act alongside Saif in Sacred Games, but you saw the differences. Yeah, like, you know, so I worked with him in Javani Janiman. I wasn't expecting, you know, a particular form or a particular way that Saif would say his lines or whatever, right? And he is incredible with what he does. He sits down, he prepares his notes. He makes sure that the scene is moving in the right direction. He's always helping you out. He's doing, you know, that little bent, playing in off energies and stuff. He's really, really good at it. And then I went and watched some of his films. So I watched Salam Namaste. I watched Kabi Khushi, Kabi Graham. Yeah. Which are like now on the OTT platforms. And I felt there was this classic Saif that you get to watch in these films. Yeah. And the classic Saif is the guy who's in that moment and he improvises. And he improvises so well that he can like throw you off, God. That's awesome. And it's the most phenomenal experience because you don't know what's gonna hit you next. Yeah. He's gonna come up with the name. And I think it's such a wonderful journey. And I'm the kind of person, I'm the kind of person who like picks on energies, right? And over here, I can't be like Saif because it takes me 10 seconds to become Saif. Like if he says, my body, I'm like, your body. And I'm not supposed to be that totally. Yeah. I am the grounded person. I am Saif. I believe that. And I'm shitting all over the place. And it was just so, oh, you see the film? And I will tell you, I think the director was pure genius and he did such a wonderful job of restraining me and allowing Saif to do what he does. And that's what works in terms of the chemistry of the two characters coming in together. It's a great work. Check that one out. Well, I wanna thank you for your time. I wanna finish off the interview here with a little bit of rapid fire. So it's like you're on coffee with Karan. Yep. Do I get asked for when I come to LA? And when I chill? Of course. Absolutely. Anytime you come to LA, look us up, please. Absolutely, please. We will give you some coffee. And a big salad and fries. Big salad and fries. Okay, so first one, coffee or chai? Coffee in the day, chai in the evening, but coffee. And this is, do you have any pets? But I know you have a cat. So is it, are you a cat person? Or do you also like dogs? Cat. Cat, okay. I think dogs are just too sloppy. They're just too affectionate. I can't deal with that much affection. Too much love, like back off, dude. It's fine, I understand you love me. Have some independence already. Yeah, just leave, like, stopping sloppy. Favorite hobby outside of acting? Diving. Diving, very cool. Favorite Hollywood film? I just watched A Beautiful Day in the neighborhood and I love it. Yeah, the new Tom Hanks one? Oh my God, it's beautiful. But JoJo Rabbit has a piece of my heart. Ah, JoJo. Favorite- What makes me cry, sorry. The which one? Warrior, makes me cry. Oh, with Tom Hardy? Yeah, Warrior's fantastic. Yeah, it's great when I make me cry. I'm an asshole, like, just cry so much in movies. I love it. Favorite Indian film? Oh, favorite Indian food? Or film? Film. Oh, film. So hard one to pick, there's so many. Yeah. Name a few. 1-0, yeah, 1-0. Gully Boy? Yes. Perfect. Favorite Hollywood actor? Male or female? There's so many. I used to have a huge crush on Tom Cruise. Can we just stick to crush? Yeah, yeah, that's fine. That's fine. Yeah, he's not my favorite actor, I promise you that. Favorite alcoholic beverage? I thought favorite alcoholic actor. I was like, what? Favorite alcoholic, what, name it. Go, favorite alcoholic. No, I'm kidding. Yeah, wine. Perfect, what, red or white? Red. What kind? In a noir. Ah, nice. Okay, good. Now, favorite... Hi, I'm a Malbec person, like a Malbec, what do you do? Malbec, ah! Malbec, yeah. Okay, Malbec, okay, sir. Favorite Indian food? Chicken reshmikavap. Haven't had that. Yeah. It's really nice, it's green. Yeah, it's creamy, it's really low on the spice value. And... Favorite, I mean, no, not favorite, a biggest pet peeve. People who dig their noses while driving their cars? That's a good one. That's a good one. So, I have to get this somewhere. And favorite book? I picked this book up from Urban Outfitters, I know it doesn't say much about me, but it's called Japaneseme, which is basically a book that's an everything about Japanese culture. So, it's got sushi, it's got, it's got ikigai, it's got forest bathing, it's got babisabi, it's got kintsugi, it's got everything in it. And it's just such a beautiful read, like you can just go swiftly, you can pick whatever you want out of it. And it's a very beautiful, it's a very beautifully written book because it's a memoir, so it's lovely. Well, I want to thank you so much for your time. It's a huge honor for us. We really loved the performances and we're really looking forward to seeing more of you in here in the future. I'm sure you're getting tons more opportunities now with amazing roles. So, we're really looking forward to that. And Rick, I don't know if you want to say something. Yeah, no, and please do, with your in Los Angeles, let us know. We would love to see you again and either just hang out or have you where we're no longer in quarantine and actually meet you in person. So, please do let us know when you're coming to LA. We want to do that. And I promise you here today on this interview, what date is it today? On the 7th of May, is it the 7th for you or the 8th? Yeah, it's the 7th. It's the 7th. Yeah, you're ahead of us. Yeah. Oh, my interview, yeah, right. Okay, I'm gonna make you proud. Thank you. We believe it. We believe it. Yeah, I have no doubt at all. And I'm hoping we'll be able to watch that new show that you're in. It sounds fantastic. It's an interesting show. Yeah. Well, thank you so much. It was a pleasure talking to you. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. Have a great day. Bye. Bye-bye. Our stupid reactions tune in for the next episode.