 Meeting to order we'll start out with the roll call All the person aclea she left. Okay All the person deckers me. I'm here all the person Felde all the person for lucky Panoski all the person Heidemann all the person Mitchell All the person Perala all the person rainy. Yeah all the person rust All the person Salazar Okay, we'll start out with the Pledge of Allegiance Pledge of Allegiance to the flag Alrighty is there anyone here for public forum There's no one sitting. Okay We'll go right on to know item four approvals minutes from the committee the whole meeting from September 6th Motion's made a second at any comments on those minutes all in favor Any opposed? They are approved. Okay. I look for discussion number five resolution 79 20 to 23 by all the persons Felde and Flicky Panoski establishing the 2023 budget appropriations and the 2022 tax levy for you stirring the calendar year Caitlyn, I guess you're the One to start this off Great. Thank you. Thank you. I have a two slide PowerPoint So keeping it very short today So on the screen first I have the budget timeline just as an update of where we are currently So we're at the committee of the whole update where I'm just giving you a brief Update on where the budget is today and then next Monday the 24th will be the public hearing in that proposed final Version of the budget from the city administrator's office with my assistance will come forward and then the November 7th Common Council agenda will include the finalized version of that proposed budget for possible action So where we are as of today We had the preliminary deficit presented a few weeks ago, and that was a hundred ninety two thousand five hundred eighty dollars The state of Wisconsin we did receive those aid Estimates for 2023, and we were lucky enough that it did increase by two hundred and two thousand almost two hundred three thousand dollars So we had a surplus for a moment of the ten thousand dollars With the ordinance that was just passed tonight. We for the fifteen dollar minimum wage We now have a budget impact of fifty to sixty thousand dollars that I mentioned so tomorrow I'll be looking to adjust the budget to account for that So we will have a revised final balancing and review tomorrow to make sure we do account for the Additional pay for the positions, and then the Department of Revenue. We still are waiting for those final assessment figures Those are what determines the tax rate the final tax rate, and I guess I lied that's three slides And so this is the point where the committee has the opportunity if you have any Suggestions or comments after all of the committee meetings that occurred last week This is a chance for you to bring those to my attention so that Administrator and I will if and I can work tomorrow to include those in the budget if there are additional Changes that you're requesting at this time Okay, thank you Caitlin does anyone have any questions or comments about the budget any questions at all anyone like to bring forward Going once Back go go ahead all the rest. I Notice that we spend a hundred thousand dollars for se DC We give basically the shabuagan Economic fund money, what do we as a city get out of that because I know we spend a hundred thousand dollars as well As the county and that was an initial thing and we were supposed to They're supposed to find Monies of their own and so I'm just curious what the city is getting out of it if we're let's say $100,000 and 85,000 of it goes to Howard's Grove. What do we see out of that? Chadder Thank You chair So that actually does come out of the development budget 50,000 is budgeted in the general fund and the rest comes out of tax incremental financing district funds What I would say is like you said it was originally it's in there as a Seed money and once they raise enough private Funding from private sector they we were to back away. It's been 12 plus years that we've been funding that organization. I think on a day-to-day You know, there is some partnership that happened, but it's Not a ton of You know that we get some referrals from them a lot of the stuff were you know handling and and leading ourselves so You know, I think it's it should it could be something that's looked at long-term and and how much we you know continue to fund Thank you Questions on it all to us. Yeah, so If we so are we The county and us are we the only ones that are funding it right currently or are they Able to fund themselves or they still relying on that after all these years, you know They had the understanding that they were we weren't going to do this forever I right now the county is funding a hundred thousand and we're funding a hundred thousand other municipalities in this in the county are funding their share of their population so in Plymouth, it's You know seven to maybe 15,000 and then it you know goes down from there There's a number of private sector Companies the major ones that we know of Kohler Johnsonville those and a bunch of other ones that are funding I think their budget is about six or seven hundred thousands So we're probably a third of it, but there is substantial private contributions as well. Thank you Yes, my concern about this is The citizens of the city shaboy and are paying for this double They pay county taxes too. So they're paying for it again I guess and that's my concern on this work We're getting double-dipped on a lot of things when it comes to and I guess that's that's my comment on that Alder Look at Eski. It's not about this topic. So if there's still Conversation I have another question Okay, perfect, and this is for the fire chief public safety I am recalling that You were sending some of your fire staff to do National training state training back up. Can you refresh my memory about that? And is it in this budget? So are you referring to the Wisconsin State Task Force? I believe so you take you take your employees and Mobilize them for a state problem. Yeah, so that and that's all reimbursable by the state So it's a zero cost to the city. Okay, so when your fire Employees are off to training. Are we going to be? Paying over time for the employees that are still here. Yeah, if there's over time to cover their shift Yeah, and but then we get reimbursed. So It's a zero cost Yep, okay. Thank you. Sure anyone else have any other comments? I I guess I did skip away from get skip ahead on the one issue Did we want to make an adjustment to that? You know something I wouldn't mind going down that path Again because if we don't really see what we're actually getting get from our hundred thousand dollars We'll be better off spending that money someplace else. We just took a fifty thousand dollar hit so With what the resolution we've passed I I would make a motion to Reduce that by fifty thousand dollars Okay, there's a motion on the floor. Is there a second by anyone I'll second that Motions made and seconded Any other discussion on that go ahead go ahead mayor Let's see So You know I know and I just want to kind of offer some guidance to the council myself an administrator We'll both serve on the board for the SCEDC. I would caution just making a jump on this really quickly today I would advocate maybe having a larger discussion on this topic. I think on our end. We have to do a lot of planning As well and possibly invite the SCEDC to a city council meeting to discuss further about the Contribution from the city as well In terms of what our relationship would look like with the county in this organization too So I guess I would advocate against making this jump right away Until we have further discussion or putting this item on hold We still have a few more budget meetings as well to discuss further So just want to offer that device before we shoot from the hip. Thanks All right Alderberg Thank you. I Too will vote against this it I Think if we do withdraw funds, I think there's an appropriate way you say This is what we gave you this year next year You will see an X number of dollar decrease or X number of dollar decrease the year back So I would be against just pulling half of the half of the funding It also would give them an opportunity to Move forward Doing more development projects with us basically so I would I would appreciate not cutting it in this budget Okay, director director wolf Thank You chair. I also want to caution the council As as alder flicky paneski pointed out and and as well as the mayor making a really Quick Decision like this that affects another organization that the city has been a partner with For a very long time. I would really respect that we we meet with them We talk with them and maybe we we let them put them on notice that over the next few years We're going to Decrease our contribution If you think of it from a perspective Back in 2018 2019 we lost a significant amount of money From a lion to energy and we didn't know that was happening put ourselves in their shoes. All of a sudden they're going to lose a sizeable amount of money with with no notice and I think that would be looked at in a In a bad fashion for the city So I'd like to have them come in present to the council what their contributions are allow the council to ask questions and then Continue to make decisions from that point Thank You director wolf Anyone else have any comments? Okay, there is a motion on the floor though. I guess I do Hello, okay, I know this isn't specifically about the SEDC, but it's are there other City are there other organizations that or are there other yes There are other organizations that come out of the city planning budget that we gift money to like this This is mainly directed it director Pelle check, but I'm just trying to get some curiosity like this is the only one We work with or are there others I? Think this is the only one we work with because the business improvement district is a special tax assessment that funnels through But we don't make any contributions to any other major corporations other than professional organizations that we belong to Okay, thank you for that clarification Okay There is a motion on the floor though. I do have to have a have to have to vote on that Do I do a roll call vote on this or do I do just to kind of just do us? Okay All right, I guess we'll go down the line or You can call it you can we have that maybe I prefer Okay All the person Felde all the person flicky Panoski. No all the person Heidemann All the person Mitchell all the person Pirella All the person Raimi may all the person Rust All the person Salazar Ne All the person Decker me Seven knows two eyes Okay, that does not pass All ready does anyone else have any other questions any other comments about the budget for Caitlyn go ahead Hello, okay, you're back on I'm sorry in the budget summary you've got a section here for health and human services in the What we are estimating and what we're primarily budgeting for can you tell me specifically of what those funds are focused on? Sorry. Oh, you're fine There you go. Yeah, I believe so, but let me confirm. Yep. It's two hundred and five thousand I believe it's cemetery, but I'm confirming. Oh So it's not actual services we're providing correct. That's the that's the classification that cemetery falls into with the state Okay, so kind of the opposite you think but I'm confirming so bear with me. I kind of wish I didn't ask that My district they don't say anything at all. I thought it was really about like actual services. We were providing. Yes That is for the cemetery. Okay. Thank you. Sorry. Thank you for that clarification. Okay anyone else have a comment or anything else Holder Mitchell Thank you chair Just a quick general comment. I really appreciate again everybody who's put work into putting this budget together We face some interesting challenges over the last year from a budgetary standpoint It's nice that our shortfall was short-lived and we didn't have to have a You know bare knuckle floor fight on where we were pulling the money from to cover it So thank you everybody for your hard work. It does recognized And I just want to echo those comments. I you think you guys did a great job I know it's I know it's not an easy time this time of year for you guys at all Anyone else comments Going once Twice okay Guess then with that with that concludes our discussion on this I'm looking for a motion to adjourn Motion is made You should be sending the recommendation I'm sorry. Okay. Hold on one second Hold on that So moves, okay Motion is made in the second just recommend to send a council Trey and Zach Okay Any other discussion all in favor Any opposed We've a bite it is that of that we are approved. We're sending it to council. Okay now We'll look for a motion to adjourn Okay, all in favor Any opposed We are adjourned