 I think this is probably a question that you can both answer. What is your key piece of advice based on your experiences in your respective projects? What was the one thing that you'd like us to take away from your presentations? So for me, I'm Angela. For me, when I think of this past experience, I'm not limited in the version tool. So I'm still a product manager for other city type products at this moment. So my key piece of advice to myself is that I'm not only building a product, I'm building a solution. And that solution may include offline mechanism and may include negotiation with the government that may include advocacy as a part of the solution. So that make me not only see the product as a digital product like an eight or a website as an ultimate goal of my project. I will work more with the government and the CSL to see what's the main impact that we want to make in design the solutions as a whole. Yeah. Great. Thank you, Angela. Neema, what should I take away, Bea? Right. So I think even for us, it was a lot of realizing the position that we're coming from. In a lot of the countries, women didn't understand what online gender-based violence was. And so we had to go into each country and contextualize a question. I think my advice to myself in the past would be to do more of that context building. And because we tried as much as possible to tailor the tools to each country, but I think that there's a lot more work that can go into that. Even after giving this talk, I think, yeah, there's so much to contextualize in any of this work that we do. So I would have spent more time doing more in-country research, figuring out what are the right kinds of words to use and then taking it from there. Great. That's really interesting. And just another one for you, Neema. I'm assuming it. The question is, have you examined the intersections between online misinformation and GBV, which I'm going to assume stands for gender-based violence, but if it was different, please let me know. But yeah, I think that was meant for you, Neema. Yeah, we haven't looked at that yet. We're actually doing a project with Mozilla on misinformation right now. But we haven't looked at that intersection, though it is very interesting. Cool. Yeah, because it's a huge, it's a huge area to be looking at, isn't it? Just trying to narrow down your research questions, I imagine is a huge task. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Angela, a question here from Ricardo Poppi. I know Gov.0 was using the POLLIS tool with great participation. How did this kind of use relate with SENSE.TW? There are lessons learned on this specific case. So yes, at the very beginning, we do think of POLLIS model. And we do think that at the later stage of SENSE.TW, we can explore our cards and argument statement into POLLIS for people to fold them and form a cluster group. But why we develop SENSE.TW is also we see that on POLLIS, people cannot give the reference or why they are thinking of that. And people cannot directly response or build on the mutual understanding of facts. And yeah, that's a main problem because, so let me give an example. Like the first thing problems in the US, people who believe that first thing is good and people who believe that vaccine is bad, they base on the different reading materials they read. So just folding, agree and disagree and see the different cluster groups doesn't help the mutual understanding and discussion. People should read each other positions reasoning and the reference that can generate more discussion that's our belief. Great. And just from again, Angela, from another question for you from Robbie Branson, when you say no one used the hypothesis tool that you were talking about, did you actually do online marketing at all to let people know that it was actually there and it was available? And if so, how much money did you spend on that? So it's a tricky problem because within the government project, we couldn't do much online marketing budget because the government budget constraint. And second of all, when we first use the fork version of hypothesis, it's to be model because we still focus on the government side of meeting. So at that time, we feel like advertising to many people is not the best way. The best way is to contact a key person in the government and convince the government in sync text to use our product. And we do right like we do. We did in bounce marketing like write blogs or we use that tools in other government meeting to do that. But within government budget, it's hard to allocate budgets for online marketing. Right. Yeah, I totally understand. And I think many other people here will as well. Neema, sorry, I'm losing my headphones. It's been a long day. Sorry, Neema. Actually, this is a question I'm quite interested in as well, actually. When you were doing the research, did you see any differences in countries that have many multiple ethnic groups in comparison to ones that are fairly homogenous? I don't think any of the countries that we did were fairly homogenous. I think every single country we went to did have quite a difference. But no, we didn't collect granular data going down to ethnic groups. I don't think we thought that was very right to do at that time. But yeah, as you said, there's so many questions that we could ask in our lives. Lifestyles work. We did see differences. We did ask income. And you could see that there were very clear differences in income and how people reacted to digital security. Like how concerned they were and what kinds of behaviors they had and took. But yeah, we didn't have questions on ethnicity or things like that. Cool. And I mean, this is a horrible question to ask because I'm sure you don't have the answer. And if you did, then you'd probably be absolutely rolling in it. But so an anonymous question here. How do we make more women or minorities to be the developers and designers of the actual technologies that they use? Yeah, I mean, of course, the answer is obvious. There's the pipeline getting more people to be designers, developers. But also, I think just listening. I think there's a real listening problem and running a small company in Africa. I see that all the time where people come from the West and they're just like, I can't hear you. It's just that they never listen. And I think that's the biggest thing is that when you come and if you bother to ask us and we tell you, then please actually take that advice and use it. So I think just paying attention, listening, asking questions. I think even that, because of course the pipeline and all that is going to take many, many years. But I think listening can happen right now. I think that more of that needs to happen. And of course, having these conversations, having these dialogues, creating space for this to happen, online, offline, I think that's really important. And of course, I mean, across the tech industry, it's a bit contentious whether you try and push more women forward into more prominent roles just so that there are recognisable female faces out there. And yeah, no one solved that argument yet either, have they? Brilliant. OK, sorry. I don't want to cut into everyone's break. Again, there were more questions on the slider that I've been able to ask. So we'll pass those on to the speakers and hopefully we can get back to you with some answers.