 I'm Chika Konago and joining me today in the studio is Gran Murata, President of Ryukyu Koten Afusoryu Ongaku Genkyu, Choe Ichika USA, and Ryukyu Koten Ongaku Afusoryu Genseikai, Hawaii, Shibu. President Murata is called Sanda Sensei, has been teaching Okinawan classical music, which is singing and playing Sanshin, and contributing to reserve and pass on Okinawan culture to the next generation in Hawaii. Hello everyone, I'm Honolulu Downtown, and I'm from Japan. Hello, I'm Kako Nagochi, a host of Hawaii. Today's broadcast is about Sanda Sensei, who has been teaching Okinawan classical music, which is singing and playing Sanshin, and is teaching Gran Murata Sensei in the studio. Sanda Sensei, thank you very much. Thank you very much. Do you understand what you are hearing now? We talked about Okinawa Jina-Guchi, but you just introduced yourself, right? Please speak in Japanese. Today we are going to talk about Sanda Sensei. Actually, Sanda Sensei is from Hawaii, not Japan. Yes, she is in her fourth grade. Yes, she is in her fourth grade, but she is not only in Japanese, but also in Jina-Guchi. Yes, I would like to speak in Japanese. Please speak in Japanese. I study Japanese everyday. You love Japanese, don't you? Yes, I do. I study Japanese in order to convey such classical music and culture, so I have to study Okinawa Jina-Guchi a little. I have been studying Okinawa Jina-Guchi since a long time ago, but I have been using the word Shimakotoba recently. I see. So, you introduced yourself in the language of Ryukyu-Koten-On-Gaku. What is Ryukyu-Koten-On-Gaku in the first place? If you don't know anything about it, please tell us what it is. That's right. It is about 400 years ago that Sanshin came to Okinawa from China. Before that, there was a song called Omo-Rososhi, which is a song that doesn't have musical instruments. When Sanshin came from China, we put this song on Sanshin, and what we have done now is the word Ota-Sanshin in Ryukyu-Koten-On-Gaku. The word Ota is the main word, and Sanshin was made as a version of the song. Even if you say Sanshin, there are some people who don't know about Hawaii, and I think most Japanese people know about it. Can you show it up a little? Yes, this is Sanshin. This is a kind of snake called Belma Nishiki. According to the story, to make this Sanshin, it was imported from China and then imported hundreds of years ago. The Chinese Sanshin is a little smaller in size. It's small. On the other side, Sanshin doesn't sing. It's like an orchestra. If you listen to Sanshin, if you sing, there are lyrics. That's why Okinawa has a unique song called Sanshin. Ryukyu-Koten-On-Gaku. Even now, Sanshin has a modern version of the song, which is called Uta-Sanshin. I see. In general, it's known as the Minyo of Okinawa. That's right. It's called Okinawa-On-Gaku. Right now, Minyo is a popular song. But the original song is Ryukyu-Koten-On-Gaku. I see, I see. Why did Sanda-sensei of the 4th grade draw Sanshin? In Hawaii, right? My grandmother wanted me to experience all the culture of Japan from the point of view of my grandmother. There was Japanese culture, Ryukyu culture, and karate. I think I was interested in Okinawa's music. Anyway, it's all about Japan. At that time, I didn't say anything about Okinawa. Overall, it's all about Japan. There are many options. My grandmother wasn't born in Okinawa, so I thought about it until now, but my grandmother pushed me a lot. She taught me the culture of Okinawa, and she taught me the culture of Okinawa, and she encouraged me a lot. I wanted to do this. There are many options, and Sanshin is really a destiny. That's why when I was asked, I didn't say anything. I didn't say anything. The environment around me was like that, and I loved it. How old were you when you started drawing Sanshin? I was 12 years old. At that time, you were a teacher, right? Yes. There was a teacher named Higa Masatada. He said, I'm a boy, I'm a boy. I did this and that. At that time, I made a mistake. I was drawing a cat face, not a snake's face. At that time, most of the people who were drawing Japanese Sanshin were women. Most of the people who were drawing Japanese Sanshin were men. So I was like, I'm a woman, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, The Japanese language they taught me was a bit different. When I first talked to my grandmother there, in Okinawa, it used to be a big country, so there was a proper language in Okinawa. That was the first time I knew about it. And then, the lyrics were all Okinawanese, but if you don't learn this language, you won't be able to understand it. That's right. If you can't understand it, it's hard to understand it, and if you don't understand it, you won't be able to sing it. So, you have to learn this language. But in a sense, it's a sound that you can't really understand. That's what I thought. That sound? Yes. That rhythm? Yes. That's interesting. After that, how did you feel when you understood the meaning? Well, in Okinawa, there was a song called Ryuka, which was made in 1986. I put it on the music board. The meaning of the song was that it was a wonderful high school or a love story. The beauty of the place in Okinawa and the beauty of the place in Okinawa were mostly made by Okinawa's classical music and folk music. When I think about it now, Okinawa's high school music is wonderful. When I think about it, I want to learn more. But when I think about it now, I want to learn more about Okinawa. That's what I felt. The next generation can express their feelings. But there are few people who can express their feelings in Okinawa. The teachers in Okinawa asked me what the meaning of this song was. They said it was good. But they couldn't understand the meaning of the song. They couldn't understand the meaning of the song. They couldn't understand the meaning of the song. That's true. In Okinawa, when you look at the teachers singing, it's really touching. I can't speak Japanese, but I think it's thanks to the teacher's guidance that Okinawa can express their feelings. Do you think so too, Chikago? I think so. Next week, please come to Keiko. Hello. I'd like to take a break here. Hello. We are taking a short break here. We'll be right back. Stay with us. Love, I am the host of Think Tech Hawaii's Law Across the Sea. Law Across the Sea is on Think Tech Hawaii every other Monday at 11 a.m. Please join me where my guests talk about law topics and ideas and music and Hawaii Ana all across the sea from Hawaii and back again. Aloha. We're back from break. I'm Chikago Nago. This is Konnichiwa, Hawaii. Talking with Sanda sensei, president of Ryukyu Koten Ongaku Absolute Gensokai, Hawaii Shibu. I'm here to deliver Think Tech Hawaii's Japanese program. Konnichiwa, Hawaii. Today, we're talking about Ryukyu Koten Ongaku Absolute Gensokai, Hawaii Shibu. I'm here to talk about Ryukyu Koten Ongaku. Please continue. Please play a song for me. What's this song? This song is a song called Mensoure in Okinawa. The Okinawa Okinawa Okinawa Tadayotoki no Kinen no kyoku de Tero Kena-choichi sensei kukurareta kyoku de Mensoure, WELCOME. It's a song Ichariba-cho Kunichou Iki Kunitokuni Kyoudai mita yana kankey na Leba That's why I made this song. It's a very good word. It's a much bigger scale. That's right. I think it's a great song for everyone to come and watch the show. It's a great song. This is the theme song of Okinawa. We'll listen to this song at various events in the community of Hawaii. How many members are there now? There are two members. Honolulu, Maui, and Kawaii. We've been doing this song for about 2012. I think there are about 200 members now. At first, it was already a small group. That's why it's getting bigger and bigger. There's no such thing as Afo Shoryu. I've been doing this song since the beginning. I've been doing this song for a long time. Many people from Kenjinkai and other Japanese communities are interested in this song. What I want to say is that even if you're not from Okinawa, no matter where you are from, I want everyone to learn this song and this music. I want everyone to study. There are a lot of people among the students. From young people to young people. I want everyone to have fun at home. I'm doing this for the first time in my life. This is how Shibu is doing. I'm going to study in Okinawa. I'm going to take the test. It's getting bigger and bigger. What did you do in Okinawa this year? In Okinawa, there's a big newspaper company, and there's a big newspaper company called Okinawa Times. This year is the 51st year of the Okinawa Music Festival. I think the time zone is longer. The newspaper company is taking the test with their own holes. They want to be more interested in the language. They want to study together. They want to learn more about the language. It's been about 50 years. Of course, there were a lot of Okinawans at the beginning, but now there's Hawaii, South America, and the United States. I don't know much about it yet, but there are a lot of people in South America. I want to take the chance to study in Okinawa and learn more about Okinawa. This year, there were 10 people from Hawaii. You want to take the test? Yes. It was a great achievement. The young people in Hawaii don't know Japanese. They don't know the culture of Okinawa. The 4th and 5th grade students are trying their best. What kind of reaction do Okinawans have? Of course, even in Okinawa, the young people in Okinawa are becoming more aware of the culture. The people in Okinawa are interested in the culture. In many ways, they think that they have to work hard to make sure that they don't lose. As a parent, the young people in Okinawa don't know Japanese, but they do know what Okinawans are doing in Okinawa. That's right. In both countries, Brazil, Peru, and Argentina, they are working together to increase the culture. Yes. In Okinawa, there are universities in Okinawa, and other places like KCC, and there are 5th and 4th grade students in Hawaii. They are looking at each other and saying, they are embarrassed to work with these people. There are also people who come to the lab to study. That's right. They study and work hard. When they go to Okinawa, they look for a teacher in Okinawa. There are also people who work in Okinawa. That's right. That's what they are saying. They come to Hawaii and understand Okinawa. That's right. It's not just the three-dimensionality. That's right. I was surprised. In Okinawa, there is not a lot of Okinawan food. It's delicious when you come to Hawaii. When you go to Okinawa, there is a lot of Okinawan food. I don't think there is a lot of Okinawan food in Okinawa. But in Okinawa, there is a lot of Okinawan food. I think it's the taste that came from the past. Maybe it's the taste of the past. It's a little dark. In Okinawa, there is a lot of healthy food. That's right. I think it's really nostalgic. Eating Okinawan food in Hawaii. How do you feel when you grow up among the young generation? Do you feel the sense of responsibility? Do you feel the sense of joy? What do you feel? In Okinawa, for example, I went to Okinawa, and I got a sandwich from the new house. I got a sandwich from home. I don't know what it means at all. I got a sandwich from home. I feel that I should take care of the identity of my family. I feel that I should take care of the identity of my family. That's why I went to Okinawa. Now I want to go to Okinawa more. You feel the sense of responsibility, don't you? Yes, I feel the sense of responsibility. I went to Okinawa for the first time. Then I went to Okinawa and met my relatives. I decided to go to Okinawa to meet my relatives. I decided to go to Okinawa and meet my relatives. When I went to Okinawa I thought, I look like my mom. I look like a woman. I have a connection with my family. I can feel it. I feel that these things are very touching. It's interesting, isn't it? Yes, it is. After all, I am the person here. I understand that. Interesting. I think you will be taught from now on. Is there a big meaning to it? Why are you doing this? At first, I think it's just interesting. I think everyone is like that. This is one of the tools. I think that the other 3rd, 4th and 5th grades will be born into the 6th grade. If you don't bring your identity with you, if you become a part of the Okihara culture or a gathering of the Kenjin Association, I think it will be less and less. If this disappears, it will be lonely. Even in an event, the grandparents will be very lonely. Young people like you are doing things that you and your grandparents couldn't do. They come to support you. If you feel good, you want to do your best. If you continue to do that, you will be very lonely. Lastly, I heard that you have a recital this year. Can you tell us about it? Until now, I had a lot of high school music. I didn't have a lot of high school music until now. At first, I was from Mio. I didn't have a recital in Hawaii. So, if you want to do your recital, you can do something that no one has done before. This year is the 150th anniversary of Ganemono. I thought it would be a good opportunity to thank my parents. I also want to thank my teachers. I also want to thank the people in Hawaii who have supported me. What time is it? It's the 17th of November in Hawaii. Thank you very much. We are out of time. Thank you very much for coming. Stay tuned for more shows in Japanese. Thank you for all watching. This is Konnichiwa, Hawaii. See you next time.