 Okay, we got a cozy group today. That's good. Before I get into this legal stuff, I want to just briefly go over that again. There's some people criticizing me for the teaching I've had on territorial warfare. So I just want you to ignore that, which is what I do. Any kind of criticism I get, I just ignore it. I take a look at it and see if it's valid first. And if it's not, then I just blow it off. It doesn't have any effect on me at all. I've trained myself over the years to learn to do that because you can't take offenses and be in the ministry. Your ministry will crash and burn. I mean like a Boeing 747 right into the tank. But anyway, the scriptures they use, as you know, are Ephesians 6 and Luke 10. So it sounds like it's possible. So if you read those scriptures, behold I give you power to tread on scorpions and serpents and over all the power of the enemy. That's what it says all there. Pas is the Greek word. It sounds like I've got authority over Satan and hell. Hell itself. Demons in Saudi Arabia. It sounds like I'm essentially one of the rulers of the world. And I, myself individually, can straighten out Tanzania by praying here in my prayer closet, binding spirits in Tanzania that are human trafficking. And I can put an end to human trafficking in Guam by praying here today. We can do it together. We can bind all the demons in Guam and stop human trafficking. It sounds like that. So if you take it out of context, you can make any scripture sound any way you want it to. But if you added that scripture to the Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, you'll see that no one ever did any of that. And Jesus never said you had that kind of authority to wipe out, you know, the demons running Japan. There's no examples of it. Are there? Is there any example of it? Have I overlooked something? Mike? Okay. I did watch a video where they said that they documented themselves. They said that they were going to bind and loose and then get a bunch of people saved and they found out that the numbers actually went down. They didn't get anybody saved. Oh, I didn't know that. New epistolic reverberation. They believed that? Okay. Okay. Well, like I said, it sounds like it works if you just look at that scripture and ignore everything else. It's kind of sick because it does say everything. I have authority over all the works of the devil, which would be any kind of work of the devil. Any work running Russia, causing Ukraine war. That's all the devil. He's doing that. They're not doing it. He's doing it. He's running the whole show. They're just puppets, right? I can't stop to Ukraine war here. Please. So, secondly, as I mentioned, in my experience has been horrible with this. I've had numerous people come in for prayer who'd done territorial warfare and their lives have been just gutted financially, physically, illnesses, bankruptcies, divorces, kids on drug. All kinds of weird, bad, horrible things happen. And so after that, I saw that pattern over the years. I started saying to myself, hey, something, this territorial warfare thing, there's no examples of it in the Bible that I know of. Even Daniel had nothing to do with it. All that stuff was going on and Daniel didn't know anything about it. And if Daniel can't do it, I sure the heck can do it. And so I'm getting a lot of heat off that. Some people think it's I've got my faith is poor. I'm misinformed. I'm ignorant. I've heard all, hey, I've heard everything about me. They think I'm an apostate and that kind of stuff. So we don't do any of that territorial warfare here because there's retribution following it. I've seen it. And since I can't get any scriptures to support it, I can't advocate it. And then Ephesians 6, they use that. It sounds like, yeah, it could be a possibility. You got principalities, powers, and so on. And that's what we wrestle against. Well, that's true. But it doesn't say, you know, in Matthew 18, whatever you bind on earth is bound in heaven. Well, it sounds like you could do it. It sounds like I could bind the demons running the mayor's office and get these horrible decisions they make stopped. But I can't do that. Just like we can't cast demons out of people at the altar who don't want them to go. If they want to keep their demons, I don't even try to get demons out of them because I don't want to spend all my time on that person. When I can rotate over to somebody else who'd be more open to being healed. I just wear myself out. And a lot of people come looking for that. They want you to flip a light switch and help them and wave a wand over them and everything will go away. And it just doesn't work like that. All deliverance has to be repentance based. And it's not like YouTube where you go into the mall, the parking lot at Walmart and start blowing demons out of people, blowing groceries. It just doesn't. That's not the way to do deliverance. Personal repentance has to be involved in it. The person has to be agreeable. They have to want it, right? And every case you've had that didn't want it, they went out. None of them were delivered. Remember? Ask Julie. Ask Kelly. They don't write. They leave loaded with demons. So this stuff here is to be blown off. They're going to say bad things about us. Whatever. We can't change because there's just no authority to do that. And I've seen too many people hurt doing that. So I'm scared of it and I don't want to get involved. I mean, it's I've seen people get stuff unleashed on them. I was going, wow, that's horrible. I mean, what would I do if that happened to me? I probably wouldn't be around. I mean, bad things, really bad things, car wrecks and all kinds of weird stuff. So that's something we need to stay away from. We have authority by overdemons here in this building, coming at me, in you, in me, whatever it is. That's our authority. Jesus sent him out two by two not to do celestial warfare. He said go to house to house. Well, those are humans in the house. They weren't just going to the house check and see if it was vacant. They were going to humans in a house offering them the gospel. If they wanted it, then their blessing was to stay on that house, not the territory over Jericho. And if they didn't want it and they told you to scram, then you were to take your blessing off and go to the next house, not the next celestial kingdom and do that. So if Jesus, with his anointing, if he wasn't casting down the demons running the temple or the demons running Herod's family and so on, that's a red flag to me. The angel came to Joseph and said, I want you to get the heck out of here. They're going to try to murder a boy and they had to go to Egypt. But nowadays they would have said, what? It's your problem, Willis. We'll just bind Herod's demons in the palace and we'll just send a warring angels over there to mop them up. What are you talking about? They told him, get the heck out of here. And of course, Joseph was a good man of God. He obeyed everything he was told to do, he did. Yeah, he would have been a powerful Christian now because he obeyed. Getting Christians to obey like pulling teeth out of yaks. It's unbelievable how hard it is. Joseph did everything to the letter. God loved him. And they left, they ran for it. And then he said to him, hey, come back. Those people are dead. Remember? Then he came back. Joseph my man. Yeah, then he kind of fades from history. I think he died shortly after that or something, but Mary stayed around to Pentecost. She got filled with holy ghost. She was singing in tongues. Then she disappeared. So one day I'll know what happened to them people. As you know, America has been lost and the devil's taken the place over. As you know, this is a major problem in deliverance. This is a major problem here, as you well know. I talk about it virtually in every service and every setting about people fighting for their lives. And it's so tough. I word it every which way I can think of and there's still people just standing there doing nothing. They just stand there. So sometimes I go grab them. If I see them standing there, I'll go get them. Or I'll wave at them. Come down here and try and get something jump started. So what typically happens is they just come down here and they just stand there waiting for God to wave his hand over them and boom, they're supernaturally healed and delivered. And I can't get it past the demons that it doesn't work like that. All through the Gospels, you see people getting healed who wanted to be healed, who would press their way in, who would do something to get healed. You've got to activate your faith, you know? You've got to step out on your faith and some people can't get any further than them. So I have to come up to them and I'd say something gentle to them. What do you want God to do for you tonight? Or what do you need prayer about? Just kind of an introduction thing. But these scriptures I thought I'd share with you, these are the ones that prove that you can get a miracle from God. And in Luke 16, Jesus said, as you know, the law of Moses extended 400 something years until John. Since then, the kingdom of God is preached and every man, Biodzo, crashes through the front door, kicks the door in, crashes through. What is he saying there? That people who want to get healed and delivered and get miracles, get the gifts of the Spirit, get their destiny, get whatever they want from God are people who kick the door in, people who press their way in, fight for their lives, push it. Why was he saying that? Well, the law, as you know, only damned people and condemned them. When John showed up, the dispensation of grace started, and people wanted to get out of the law into grace. And so they would crash their way through, and that's why you had Jesus with so many of these giant crowds pressing in. The disciples basically were used as security guards during his ministry. He did all the teaching, preaching, and healing, and they kept the mobs off of him because people were seeing the miracles and they realized, hey, I've got to press my way in and get a miracle from God. I've got to push it. Mercy triumphs. And in order to trigger that mercy from God, you've got to do something, push your way in. Matthew 11, from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers, same Greek word, biadzo, people crashing through the door, kicking the door in, breaking the window and climbing in, like burglars do, crashing through. And the violent take it by force, this Greek word, harpadzo, is the same word used to describe the rapture in Thessalonians. It means to snatch it. Give me that. Well, you look at these words and you see a aggressive, violent, pushy person pushing his way in to get a miracle from God, not standing there like this person where I got to come up to him and say, what do you need from God? This is not working. In spite of the fact I gave him this sermon, wasn't a very good one. I yell at him, press your way in, confess your sins, come on, fight for your life. I go through this routine, you know, doesn't work very well. But what I'm trying to do is this. I'm trying to get the person to see that. All these blessings from God are waiting for you. Everything's here. Christ bought it all. But you've got to come get it. You've got to push your way in. You've got to fight your way in. Why? Because demons are not going to give you a break. They're not going to back off you. They're not going to give you a second chance. They're going to fight. They're going to fight like a living hell to stop you from getting your miracle from God. And Jesus says, you've got to push your way in. It's right here. It says it right here. I'm not making anything up. These are my words. These are God's words. 1 Timothy 1, Paul says to Timothy, look son, you're starting to fade out on me. You're this superpowered Holy Ghost man. But listen, you've got to keep at the war. You cannot back off. You can't fade off. You can't backslide. You can't fall apart because there's persecution. You've got a war, a good warfare. War, these words are military terms. Stratia is a Greek word. It means military strategies like patent. He would sit down for weeks on end and figure out how to kill a bunch of Germans, Nazis. That was his specialty, killing Nazis. He said, listen, he told his men, look, your job is not to die for your country. Your job is to get the other poor bastard to die for his country. And that's exactly what he taught him. That guy dies for his country, not you. You've got to fight. This is a war. Sorry for the quote, but that's how he ran it. And he was the best at it. If they'd listened to him, there wouldn't have been a Cold War for the last 50 years. Now we're back in the Cold War. That started up again now. He was the one that said, we can't let the Russians have everything. That's got to be, they got to stop them. They're going to take over the worst of the Nazis. They got rid of him. Hey, they may get rid of you for preaching the truth. They arrested them to street preachers. So if they arrest you, bless you. Good for you. And congratulations. You're being persecuted for the Lord. Great is your award in heaven. Thank you. This is a war here. This language is telling you, you've got to fight your way in. This is a battle. Your marriage is a battle. Your kids are a battle. Demons are a battle. Your finances, they're going to try and stop everything in your life. All of it. There's nothing the demons are not going to take a look at to try to screw you over. They are backstabbing butchers. And you can't just be passive with them. They'll take everything you got, your spouse, your kids, your money, your entire, everything's gone. They'll take everything. They'll steal, kill, destroy everything you got. And most of you already know that from personal experience. They'll start on you as kids as they went over last night. 1 Timothy 6, you've got to fight the good fight of faith. Fight of faith. What are you talking about? Look, it's hard to keep your faith. Yeah, it's hard to keep your faith. It sure is. It's not like, you don't have to follow off the law to keep your faith. It's hard. I finished up teaching here one Friday night, went in the bathroom, looked down the floor and there was some water on the floor. Now what? I cleaned that up. I go down to my office. So many comes walking in. Was it you? Somebody walked in. Hey, we got a sewer break, sewer break. Wow. I had to grab my face and hold on to it. They tore half this building up. This is the first time we've used this room. In what, how many months? Since Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving. Is that when it broke? Thanksgiving. What happened? All of that happened from a pool of water next to the urinal and I discovered it. It felt like Lewis and Clark. There's a little water on the floor and it turned into that $90,000 later. I had to hang on to my faith. I was driving home and I refused to pull into the drive-thru liquor. I fought it off. Whoa, I had a flashback to my old days as a counselor coming home unsaved. Yeah, I need some Jack. I just got a 90, puddle. That was all it was. A puddle of water. I didn't think anything of it. I cleaned it up. I fixed that and I wanted to be a slip of the rock because I didn't want to get sued. Like so many pipe bomb the place. But I repented and kept my faith. You've got to keep repenting to keep your faith. And nobody's perfect. Grace covers that. You have faith periods of faith where you struggle. I got it. Everybody got it. I'm not just a regular person like everybody else. And then it says here, lay home. Epileabatomoi means to grab it. I'm that kind of a person. My mother was that kind of a person. So I'll give you a hug. And it's a good one. It's not a Hollywood hug. I'll give you a hug because God's not here to hug anybody. And he expects me to hug him for him. So a stranger, somebody, nobody likes. I go get him. And I give him a hug. His father is not here to give hugs. He wants you to get a hug. So that's what this word means to just take it, fight for your life. And people with depression, low self-esteem and self-hatred, they have trouble doing that. So I try to push them. And I'm aggressive with them or I'm allowed with them or whatever it is. I try to come on, say this, pray like that. And I'll try to get them to go if they're not doing anything. If they're doing something, I join in with them. Blow them out. But if they're not doing anything, I try to give them a little loving, kicking the butt. You've got to do something. How do I know that? It's right here. It's written right here. You've got to do something. Anybody can be healed or delivered. Anybody. But you've got to do something. You can't just sit there and wait for the UFOs to come in. And beam you down. A rack of blessings from God. It doesn't work like that. You've got to crash your way through and grab your miracle from God because it's laying there ready for you. Why does God want you to do that? Because it makes you proud. That's my son or my daughter. Look at them go. I'm going to respond there. You want them, you want, that's what you're asking for. Come get it. I got it. He's proud when people press their way in. He likes it. Indifference bothers him. That he doesn't like. Okay, you've been called. It says it right there. You're called, but you've got to grab it. Get it. I can't tell you how many people have counseled over you and said, you know, I got a call when I was young. What have you been doing with it? Sex, drug, and rock and roll. Okay, let's repent and let's go get your call. Last night at the altar, some mother got mad at me because I was asking her, when did you get saved? What church were you saved in? I think she said it was Episcopal or something, Methodist. I said, well, I think what needs to be done here is you need to rededicate your life to God. Right now you need to step up and grab your destiny. You're living a casual Christian life and your daughter is in deep trouble back there. She needs help and you're not setting an example. Well, she got mad at me. Her boyfriend was down there. He probably got mad at me too. Hey, if they get mad at you, just go to the next one. You know, I tried to jump start her. I tried to get her to go. She wasn't responding to any casual quiet comforting church prayers. I have those. I have casual company church prayers. Dear Lord, I pray that you'll, I can do that. Dear Jesus, please bless this brother. Help him. See that? That's sweet, isn't it? Notice the inflection there. Notice the breathing. Church it. Learn to the church. Somebody got altar worker years, years of it. How are you? Oh God, please bless this sister. Oh, help her now. Now, uh-oh, when I got in this business, I started using this right up the family. If this doesn't work, dear Jesus, how are you? Oh, I need you to be blessed. I love you. Thank you. If that doesn't work, Mike, end over. I go after him. Push him. Pray harder. Speak in tongues. They're speaking in tongues. I'm not, couldn't hear them. Louder. Come on. Get going. Let you reach your face. Step out on your face. Speak in tongues. Sing in tongues. Yeah, somebody got, no, you don't do that. You do not talk to people like that. You talk to them gently, lovingly, sweetly. Now, I got all those skills. I'm gentle, loving and sweet. I got it. I got it. I'm coming out of my ears. But then, if they're not responding, I learned in deliverance, you kick over to the other side and you ask them gently and lovingly, can you bend over? Because I'm fighting for that person's life. I'm not trying to get an autograph or glory. I want that person healed. And since I've read the word, I know that I've got to help them. Come on, get off the bench. Get in the game. Push it. And sure enough, once they start doing that, the Holy Ghost jumps on them, right in front of my eyes. And I'm so excited when it happens because I yell at them. That's the Holy Ghost touching you. Tuesday. I was at the dream center, the rehab center. And I was a little too hard on them. Some of the guys got really mad at me. Different things. But afterwards, I said, if you need to talk to me, I'll meet you over in the corner over there. So I go way over in the corner to get away from the next class coming in. Because I don't want them to hear me. So I'm way over there. There's a trash can over there. And there's some lady comes up and says, I need prayer for this and that. I'm having weird pains in my body. It goes from here to there to there to here. When did that start? And so on. Well, it was a demon. Just gallant, picked up a fear demon. And she had been at the dream center for a few months. I said, listen, there's no way to get that thing out of there unless you forgive. So I went down the list with her. And a girl who I had delivered the month before was there. And she's really smart and really picked up on deliverance quickly. So I said, well, I'm going to use her to help me. I recruited a partner. And this guy went through the repentance and so on. And I prayed for her back. And half of it was healed. She still had pain. I said, well, there's somebody else in there. You're not forgiving. Now, what's the problem here? Just tell me the truth. Well, two of the instructors over there had offended her. And I said, well, that's it. You're not getting healed. We're going to, you're going to repent and apologize right now. And I went from my assembly God, lovey, I lovey sweetheart, lovey, Mikey, I love you to you're going to repent right now. If you want to get healed, she starts praying for those two instructors and the demon flips out. I mean, he freaked. She fell on the floor and screeched. She hit the deck. I said, get her. Demons flying out of her. Back healed, shoulder healed, joints cleared, everything. But it was the two instructors that was blocking it. It wasn't the mother, the dad, the ones I'd gone over. I missed everything. Boom. They were utterly amazed. She was stunned. The other lady was getting delivered. And after it was all over, they're all giggling and laughing with the joy of the Lord. It was a sight to behold. But I had to push her. Sometimes you don't take no for an answer or you don't take a crappy answer, which is what they'll give you sometime. I can't thank them anyway. Yes, you can. And if you don't, they're not going to get healed. And your job is to get these people healed if it's at all possible, do whatever I have to do, say whatever I have to say, act whatever I have to act. And I manufacture stuff. I'll admit it. I'll pretend I'm appalled at something. I think that's going to get through to a, what? I should have had an Academy Award. But I never got one. But I got to be like a chameleon sometimes. You got to be a certain way to get people to respond. And if they get mad at you, sometimes they say, well, that mother's not going to come back here. These are your boyfriend. I didn't even mention about them sleeping together. I didn't mention it. I wasn't going to go there. I knew that blow right up my face. All I did was keep using the daughter as leverage to get her to change. That's what I was shooting for. It didn't work. Things don't work sometimes. Sometimes you make mistakes. You know, maybe I worded it wrong or something like that. It happens. Don't worry about your mistakes. Just keep moving forward because you're always going to make a mistake. Cannot be perfect. It's not possible. It's not possible for me. I guarantee you that. If you want to prove for that, I'll give you Karen's phone number. First, Corinthians 9. I run. Okay, run. Right there it is. Running is different from walking, correct? Run. Not, not ignorantly or not uncertainly, but I fight. What does that mean? That's boxing. He was using an example of boxing and he used the example of shadow boxing and real boxing like the Romans, the Colosseum. They fought to the death. Boxing matches. So he's using that to them. I box not somebody who shadow boxes a row. I'm not beating anybody up right now. I'm just flailing at the air, doing nothing. He says, I don't do that. But, well, here's what I do. My enemy is my body. So your enemy is your body. It wants to eat too much, lust too much, sleep too much, slazy. Your body's stupid. It doesn't want to obey. And Paul said, no, that's not going to work for me. I'm going to beat my body down. I'm going to pound on my body and force it into slavery. This guy's crazy, right? No, he was, he had been given a ministry from God to reach the Gentiles. He was the greatest of all the apostles because he thought he was the least of them. That should have landed. He thought he was the least of the apostles, which made him the greatest. And he said, my body's not going to betray me because I can't trust it. My body wants to do what it wants to do and when it wants to do it. I'm going to beat my body. I'm not going to do shadow boxing. I'm actually going to beat on my body and bring it into slavery less by any means. When I have preached to others, I should become a reprobate. How in God's name could Paul become a reprobate? Anybody can become a reprobate. Anybody can backslide. Anybody can fail. If he can fail, I'm a slam dunk when it comes to failing. Somebody of his caliber was worried about failing and becoming a reprobate. That's at the other end. And then he goes on to mention two guys that were reprobates, remember? This is describing a fight, a war. This is a war. This is a fight here. It's a fight with yourself. Your enemy is your body. It's your emotions. It's your mind. Oh my God, it's a nightmare. And these things have to be beaten down, forced to obey. You have to force your body to obey. What are you talking about? Everybody knows what I'm talking about. Professional athletes force their bodies to obey. They go way beyond their capacities. They force their bodies to give them what their body will not give. They force it. They demand it. Pro athletes, all of them do it, right? So Paul is saying here, look, these boxers in the Coliseum, look what they do. Okay, when they're training and doing shadow boxing, that's not really doing anything. I don't do that. I don't do shadow boxing. I actually beat my body and I bring it into slavery. I demand it. Obey God. I demand it. I'm not going to eat too much. I'm not going to drink too much. I'm not going to sleep too much. I'm going to force my body to serve God. And I'm going to turn it into a slave. Do a little regale. It's right there. Slavery. The guy was acted like a professional athlete, right? Years ago, I read an article on a guy named Ronnie Coleman. He was the greatest bodybuilder ever lived. The guy ate eight full meals a day. Eight full meals a day. Unbelievable. Had a side of beef and a freezer. Can you imagine going to the store and buying steaks? He went to some store and got a side of beef hanging in a logger, meat logger. Eight, nine hours a day in the gym. Ten, eight, ten meals a day. What was he doing there? Apostle Paul. I'm dominating my body. I command my body to obey. I am my body's master. What happened to the guy? He went to heaven. He got heavenly visions. He had an anointing that was unbelievable. He got everything from God he wanted. It's a fight. It's a war. It's not something that these people can casually do and get healed. It's not going to work. All right. Last one. Mark one. All these people, it says everyone in the New Testament that wanted to be healed, got healed. Every single one of them that came to Jesus and would fight will be healed. What's the toughest part of the ministry? Mental illness. Toughest thing in the world is mentally ill. People who are mentally ill, it's so hard to get them to listen, obey, and fight. The demons are constantly skidding them off the ditch in the road, sending them a distraction, religious, personal, financial, emotional, recreational. Some distraction floats into their mind. They stop. They spend hours with them teaching them how to do warfare. I command you and then the next time you see them, they're at the altar, standing there doing nothing. Routine. Crystal. Routine. Now mentally ill people, yeah, I'm a little harder on those than I am regular people. I'd be more aggressive with them. But sometimes that doesn't work and they don't respond. All right. Let's skip to the next section. Now these demonic demons, they all got plans for you. Here's how it works. Let's say 98%, be my guest. That's just my estimate. 98% of human beings, so there's what, 8 billion people on the planet. So what's 98% of 8 billion? Anybody a math person? I'm not, so I don't have any hope here. Anybody do math? Well anyway, most of 8 billion are here. They're not saved and they're not going to get saved. 7.8 billion. What's that? 7.8 billion. 10.8 billion is how many people? 7.8 billion. 7.8 billion people here are here based on my analysis. Obviously that's not God talking, but in my experience this is the percent of people who never get saved. They're born here and then they die and go to hell here. During childhood they pick up levels of spirits based on child abuse, dysfunctional families, personal sin, sinful lifestyle, alcohol, drug, the whole thing. They just pick up racks of demons. They live their life good or bad and then they dropped it. And the devil, the demons transfer them out of this life and then they go to hell. Now here's B, which is the born again people, the 2%. So this would be about 2% of the people who are actually born again on the planet. So 2% of... How many billion was it? 7.8 billion. 2% of how many billion are on the planet? 8. What's 2% of 8 billion? 16,000. No, 160 million. What's 2% of? 8 billion. 160 million, yeah. Yeah, so let's say it's 2%. It could be 4%. This person here has got saved here at some age and they've picked up racks of demons and the day they got saved, unbeknownst to them, you'll see this all the time in your ministry, these demons down here took a dive and went dormant. They dove to the bottom of the pool. They're hiding. They're hiding. So here in our ministry, we'll get these demons out. That one's gone. First visit. This one's gone. Second visit. Something like that. They're shooting generalities. Generaturalities. This one's still there. The person's intelligence, knowledge, revelation knows that one's still there. However, these took a dive and they're hiding in the Christian. So as these come out, the person feels better. They're feeling better. Their spirit man has more joy. Their mind's clearing up. They're doing better, which is what we want them to do. We want them to do better and feel better. Then at this point here, the demons that went dormant now have convinced them it's all over. They're delivered and because they're feeling so much better, they think they're gone but they're hiding. Their job now is, these here, their job was to get them dead eventually and in hell. That was their assignment. So he's on drugs. He's committing adultery. He's doing this and that and that and that. He's picking up spirits, unsaved, gone. These guys have a different system. They're insurance policies. It's American family insurance. There it is. We have insurance on this building. I cleaned up that water in the bathroom because I thought to myself, I don't want anybody to slip on that because we could get stuck in a lawsuit through negligence. I have liability coverage on this building. It costs a lot of money per year to insure this place. These are the insurance policy of Satan. They're hiding in there and their job now is not to damn them to hell. It's to destroy their Christian life. From here on, they want them to go down and as Paul said, a reprobate. I don't want to become a reprobate and that's their goal is to get you to become a Christian reprobate through what? Any means possible. Discouragement, trials, tribulations, abandonment, betrayals, whatever they can dump on you, bad relationships, everything. It's all there. Finances, family, they'll hit you with anything and the person here is starting to lose their faith because all these bad things are still happening and they don't know they're in there because they thought they were delivered because they felt better. I'm doing better. My back's healed. I'm thinking clearer. I'm serving God. This demon down here is super smart. He will then get this person here into a ministry. Now we're in big trouble because he told them you can't be in the ministry serving God and look, you've got fruit. You're doing well and you're seeing fruit. People are getting saved, healed, delivered, whatever ministry you're in. It's working. See that? It's working, Jack. You can't have it. We're not in here. You're doing great in your ministry. What happens next? Happens all the time. Every time you turn on the TV, there's a scandal at this church and that church and their goal again is to get the minister now to become a reprobate. Fail, backslide, screw up, embarrass God, run away with the money, run away with the secretary, something, anything. Going into the ministry in some respects is a greater bondage. What? Yeah. Because now they're able to fully convince this Kundalini out minister that they're not there. Look, you're in the ministry and you're productive. You're doing great. This is psychological warfare at an unbelievable level. Why? I'm not having bad dreams anymore. I got delivered from, I'm delivered. Well, that's good. We don't want you to have bad dreams and we want you to deliver, but here's what happens. Then as they're going through their ministry, little symptoms start popping up in the person. They're tired one day and somebody says, hey, will you help me with this? No. Where did that come from? Suddenly there's a little chunk of anger pops up and they said, well, the demon goes, here's the excuse for that. Okay. They ignore that symptom. Then there's another one pops up, some symptom, fear, some anxiety jumps up. There it is. And then this, no, no, no, that's just, that's this and that and that. That's no problem. Oh, okay. I'm still delivered. I just had a, I'm doing good. And the person starts ignoring the signs that something's off. Something's not right. It's psychological warfare at a supernatural level. So the ones that don't go in the ministry that think they're delivered, okay, we have them in here all the time. They just come in and they just sit there. They're stalled. Okay. So the love of God then comes after the person and adversity strikes them. Oh no. I got in a car wreck. Oh my God. I got a bill I can't pay. Oh my kid just did this. Oh my wife and husband did that. Oh, I got sick. I got, oh God, I'm sick. So God allows this adversity to hit the person which exposes them because without any adversity, these, they stay hidden. They hide. So God will allow your spouse to act a fool. Your kids to act psychos. Bank to screw you over. It hits everybody from every angle. Everybody knows what I'm talking about. Trials and tribulations hit you all over the place. And so God in His mercy allows that to happen to show you, hey, I didn't get the, get this thing finished with you. And that's why I allowed that heartache to come in there because these guys are hiding. They've got you brainwashed. You think you're okay and you've ignored other symptoms that I allowed you to see. So now I have to have a stiffer, hey, the Lord said. He always goes gentle first in my experience. Hey, there's something in there. Remember when you yelled? Remember when you lusted? Remember when you over ate? Remember when you had the shakes? Hey, something's in there. And then the, the demons say, oh no, no, no, no, you're fine. You've been delivered. And the person wants to be delivered and doesn't want to think there's something wrong with them. It's human nature. I want to think I'm fine. I'm good. So the person and the spirits work together to cause this delusion of the person. This process is very prevalent with Kundalini spirits. It's almost impossible to break with those kinds of demons because they're giving the person supernatural events. Oh, there's, you had a vision. Oh, there's a dream. Oh, you're, you're right on. You're on the money boy. And then something really bad has to happen to expose them because God has to get past the deception, the blindness. And if he's just tapping at you and you're not listening, then he has to come in with a thunk. And if you're not listening, then he has to come in with that and allow that to happen to you to get you to see, hey, this has got to get fixed. This is kind of a downer day right now. But I'm showing you this because in your ministry, you're going to be running in these people all the time. I've been running into them now for 25 years or so. There is no way to get away from them. If you're going to stay in the ministry, you're going to have these self-deluded people. And it's not because they're bad people. See, this is a psychiatric process that lows you into sleep. It's a gentle process. These people are not psychos or maniacs or Satan, secret Satan worshipper. No, no, no, not at all. They're good men and women of God. They're good people. Yeah, no. They're not rotten people, not at all. But this is what you're going to be facing on a routine basis. Self-deluded people who don't see their symptoms, they don't happen to notice that event. They'll say something out of character with them. They'll say something out of character. Whoa, where'd that come from? I don't know. I just wasn't thinking. He'll pacify it and rationalize it. Went over it last night. Rationalization. The demons know all those things I listed and 100 times more than I listed. They're genius psychiatrists. So these people, you're going to have to get them to admit that they got those, right? I mean, they think they're fully delivered. They'll just think they'll never get along. Or we're stuck. So you've got to show them literally, hey, this is your symptoms. Yeah. Well, that's right. And what I do is, during the interview process, I'll nitpick it. I'll catch oddities. And then I'll present them to their mind. If that doesn't work, then I turn them over to God and wait for God to crack them. Because I'm not, it's not working with me. I just showed you what you did. Okay, you did that. Remember, why'd you do that? Well, you rationalized it. No, I think something's hiding in there that motivated you to say that, think that, do that. Okay, here's another example. So I'll put a little package together in the counseling session saying, hey, these are red flags. And then if the person is blinded, then the only way is, I just pray and ask Father to take it, get out the Singapore sticks in San Francisco convenience store. You go next, whack, whack. Because when you're getting whacked, you'll repent of stealing. And that guy did on YouTube. He wasn't stealing anymore. And this is how God, he doesn't whack them, but he allows them to get whacked, to get them to see the light, as they say. Some lady came in the ministry doing a great job. Oh, 80 pounds overweight. I said, what are you eating habits? How does that go? Well, I don't know. Sometimes I eat at night. So I said, I backtracked it. Was it any of it? Oh, it was stress related. I said, okay, now you're, you're eating for comfort and stress. Correct? Well, so finally pinned her down. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Okay, now that sounds like a lust demon. That sounds like a rejection demon. Something's motivating you to eat for comfort. And it's not you. Somebody is doing that to you. Same thing with anger, anger. Who'd you yell at? What were you feeling when your boss told you that you're a super suck? Well, I felt this. Okay, you did. Okay. Now, is there another pattern that did, did it happen with your kid? Did it happen with, well, then you notice a little pattern there of an anger spirit hiding down there. So then I show it to them. And if they don't buy it, then I'll just back off because I don't want, I don't want them to get angry at me for no reason. So I just kind of back off and just, Lord, go ahead and you got to do something because I tried and they're not listening to me. They got to get the Singapore sick, stop stealing. Okay. He didn't steal one thing that day. Nothing whipped out his free San Francisco medical card, I guess it headed for the emergency room, but he did clean them out, but we didn't clean that store out. This, this is the store. And these are the rotten customers in their shoplifting. You're anointing, stealing stuff from you. And the Singapore stick came to stop it. This is ultimate psychiatric warfare. And it's, it's scary. I went over soul ties last night. You know, you get a little pattern there of a relation, a relationship pattern. How long, you know, how long, you know, this gal? That's about two weeks. Oh, you, you fell in love in two weeks. How about this one? How about that one? See, see the pattern there? That's not you. They're doing that. How this relationship go? It's stunk. How this one go? It sucked. How this one go? Oh, violent. Oh, okay. So let me get this straight now. Everything going great. And it was quick. You fell in love quickly. Right? Yeah. Oops. Now we got a pattern. So now I got to give them to see the pattern. So they will repent and we can get them out of there. As soon as they repent, dream center, boom, they fall on the carpet. The demon screamed. He screamed when I caught him. He was fine in there until I, she had coughed up those two people, two instructors she was pissed off at. Apparently they said some things she didn't like, hurt her. They're going to fence over it. And as soon as we caught that, he pitched a fit. My attitude was, screw him. Come out. But they were hiding in there. See, she didn't know they were in there. I had to fish around in there, so dig them out. I know they were in there. So I started asking open-ended question. Can you think of anybody else? There's got to be somebody else. I don't think there's, no, there's somebody. Oh, yeah. It was these two instructors over here. I hate them. You know, you hate the two instructors repent of it. I'm probably fired over there because this class heard her scream. So I'm probably on my last day there. So that's how it works. Once they get exposed, boy, they pitch a fit. They don't like to be, they want to hide in there. They're fine. They're comfortable. But you catch them, they'll, they'll freak because they've lost the person. They know they're beaten. And they were told not to lose that person. They were given orders. I actually believe, I can't prove this, but I think the fallen angels and the higher level spirits all have Singapore sticks. And if the other demons don't keep the person and Bonnie, they get a whipping. I think that's true. I can't prove it, but I really believe that because they act scared, like they're going to get punished for screwing up. I hope it's true. Let me put it that way. I hope they get sticked. I got no, no compassion for demons of any kind. I hope they get tortured. Again, that's just a personal thing. So I can't prove that in the Bible. So, but I can prove that he screamed and she flopped on the carpet like a carp. The other girls are standing. Oh my God, you know, nobody could believe it. I could because I waved the other guy, go get her. I'm busy. I gotta go. I ran out the door. All right. So that's how that works. Realistically, all we're trying to do is get the main ones out. Okay. No, but nobody's ever perfect. And is everybody perfectly healed? I doubt it. But most of them out. Absolutely. That I've seen that numerous times. You can get most of them, almost all of them out. Is there a way, like, do you have, how can you tell if you've gotten a controller out? Well, there's always symptoms. See, all these spirits have certain symptoms. It's like a medical condition. So it usually manifests in taken offenses, temper, lust, fear, anger, those are the basics. Now, on people who have been in a new age and witchcraft, that's a different story. There's other symptoms there. But generally speaking, you God exposes some symptom that you've been having that you didn't attribute to the spirit. So this person here is fine around men, but they got emotional issues when they hang around women. Okay. So let's look at that pattern. So I try to set up a pattern there. What is it, women are bothering you? How is it their attitude, their potty posture, their sound, how they talk to you, their tone? What I try and research it a little bit and try and pick it out. See, now I kind of get a pattern there. Oh, okay. That tone, what's that tone look like? Oh gosh, you know what? My mother was on drugs. She left, but my grandmother raised me and she used to yell at me. Oh, okay. Now I got a grandmother pattern here. So when another woman acts similar to grandma, this thing pops up. You can feel it in there. It's like, oh, grandma or something like that. You can kind of tie it in there. And that's a spirit doing that. Grandma, probably from grandma. So there's always a symptom. It's like spirits of infirmity. They always give you a spirit, medical condition, a symptom, medical problem, like that gal that flopped on the floor. She had strange body pains that just developed three months ago. Well, she had gotten to the dream center a little bit before that. So that was a red flag. Hey, this is not a childhood condition. This is a contemporary condition. She got jumped somehow, probably there, dream center. So she had these symptoms in her body. It's all based on symptoms. Some people are really calm around these personality types and very agitated around those. See, that's a soul issue. I went over last night, but it trails back to somewhere back here. Something, something happened. My wife likes to watch this show. This will be deleted. Prison brides. Prison brides. You ever heard of it? I watch it every week. And it's, it's a, it's a demonic soul wound fest you can't believe. It's a buffet of insanity. A woman in a foreign country, let's say England, Australia, something like that hooks up with somebody, finds out about some guy in prison and they start communicating somehow. And the girl in England or Australia falls in love with this guy in prison here, America. So then the story unfolds. They come from the foreign country. They come here. They visit. They go to a visitation at the prison with the guy. And then they, of course, he falls in love with them instantly. Can't wait to be with them. And so they just start developing this love relationship. No touching, no kissing, nothing. This is all soul, mind, soul, love. Then, then you go to the scene back in Australia and the parents. The parents are ready to pull out Singapore six. You got to be kidding. You're falling in. You can imagine the drama. It's hilarious. You're going to sacrifice your whole life. What the parents are like down. Then, then he shows her parents recovering, you know, then they, they fight back. They say, Oh God, we love her. We can't, we, okay. Well, let's, let's try to play along with this. She, she's maddy in love with an ax murderer, Florence. We got to support her somehow. And then that drama unfolds. Then they go back. Then they get married. Then they get married in prison. It's a beautiful ceremony. It's never at the time it's supposed to be. Then there's scheduling problems. Then the prison people butt their nose in because they don't put up with any nonsense of any kind ever. So then you have the prison officials jacking everything up. Then they won't let the camera go in and film it because I would love to see this ceremony. Such love. They won't allow it filmed. They won't allow anybody to come in the print. So you get all these restrictions. Everybody's, and then after that they're married. The girl moves from Australia and England back to America. Her ax murderer is about to be paroled. Oh, it's a moment of joy. She's got the apartment ready. He's getting paroled. They're going to start their life together. Oh, it's great. And then they move in. Then everything goes to hell in a handbasket. Then he violates his parole for his probation. Then he goes back. She goes back. The parents, I know what you're all thinking. You can't wait to watch prison brides with my wife. I know what you're thinking. The woman who falls in love doesn't see anything totally blind just like this person is. Not seeing the symptoms. They don't know anything about demons. They don't know anything about mental illness. They've evaluated the whole relationship themselves and they're in love. Sometimes God has to show it to them because I go over it with them in this counseling session. Here are the red flags here. He's an ax murderer. He's got a bad temper. He used to be on meth. There's a series of red flags here about this guy being a wonderful mate. And then the rest of the show is the relationship falling apart, back on drugs, quits a job, different things. Hi, drama. But again, the whole show is demons from A to Z. You can see the spirits manipulate everybody on that show, every single person under total control of demons, giving them fake love. It's all damaged souls, just like I was talking about last night. How can you help them? You have to get them to do self-monitoring. If you can convince them to do that, they'll probably get healed. If they continue in the delusion that they're fine and they're okay and they can make it, I think if I make it, if I just hang on here and there, they won't get healed. They've got them. But if they're self-auditors, oh wow, the probabilities are going to get completely free. They'll catch it. These people that don't catch it often pick up transfers since they went into the ministry. They're in the ministry now. They want to pray for people. I feel fine. It's all good. Nobody's perfect. Rationalization kicks in. So they start picking up transfer. They put their hands on people. They shouldn't. Somebody else prays for them. They go through a fire tunnel. Different things happen. And then it starts getting bad. The ones that are hiding in there want the other ones back. That's their goal. They want them reloaded. They don't want to stay there by themselves. That's their goal. Get them reloaded. Get them out of their Mickey Mouse ministry. Crush them. Smash them. That's what happens. Might be a basic question. Transfers. So in this person, whatever spiritual transaction takes place goes out of this person into this person. Because this person has the door open, just another one comes in. Could. Is that the circle of it? Not always. It doesn't happen every single time. You know, like a math problem. But this guy here has got stuff hiding in there. So if he's out putting his hands on somebody, he may not pick up a transfer, but a certain type of person is usually the cause of it. A certain, like I was saying on Soul Ties, this spirit here is similar to the one here. So these prison brides have kind of a similar demon to the axe murderer. So they have a natural bonding. You know, they've talked to 15 guys on the internet and boom, that one caught them. Yeah, I feel something for that one. Not this one. Not that one. This one. It's a setup. This demon is pulling that one. They're similar spirits. So she picked this guy out of those five. You know, Karthi, Padafam, Bank robber, axe murderer. Ah, axe murderer. I feel good. I'm going to America. They get their passport ready. They tell their parents, their parents, instant projectile diarrhea. What are you doing on convict in America? I mean, the parents are flabbergasted. These are all true stories. Every one of the relationships breaks. All of them are, none of them made it that we've seen. Yeah. What if you are left with the ministry and you know you still have bondage and you're working on that? Should you restrain yourself from praying with people? It depends. You know, that's a very common thing for people to be in the ministry and know there's something off in here. But transfers are not automatic. You know, it has something to do with what's in this person and what's in you when you put your hands on them. It doesn't automatically happen like two plus two is four. Sometimes you can get away with praying with 15 people and the 16th one, ouch, I shouldn't have done that one. In my experience, it's usually witchcraft or sorcery here that gives a quick transfer. Witchcraft's horrible. That's the worst thing there is. And those demons are, they're dangerous. Yeah. What are some physical symptoms someone might experience after they pick up a transfer? I went over them last night. You know, it's emotional. It's a mental dream, life, physical pain. Anything can happen. But whatever that other person's got, it transfers into you. If they got an infirmity spirit and you're going to have the same, now you've got headaches. They had them. But if you've got somebody who is a self-auditor, they'll catch it. They'll say, hey, I'm having these symptoms and that's, I think I got them from the service last week or whatever. The people that are ignorant that don't audit themselves, they get fooled real easy. They stay sick. This kind of stuff I'm sharing with you now, this is not stuff you're going to get on YouTube. Okay, there's about eight guys on YouTube, two couple of women who do massive deliverances. They don't understand any of this. They've just got a high anointing. It's like having an extra big Singapore stick. They've got a big anointing. And so they see big results temporarily. But then later on they all come back. You're saying that some people, they got those demons, they kind of dive down and they hide themselves. Yeah. They go in the ministry, they think they're delivered, they think they're going fine, and the symptoms start popping up. They get a little bit growly with this person or that. But is it always like if they were, I'll use myself for example, like let's say I'm going to ministry, something happened, and I just kind of got somebody, is that always a indicator if there's a demon stuck down there or could it just be that maybe in that specific instance, maybe they're just having a rough day or maybe tired? Could be, yeah. What you're looking for is a pattern, not just a one-off. So if there's a pattern of that, that would probably be a spirit. Anybody can have a bad day. But if they're growling, that's not having a bad day. Somebody's growling in there. Okay, that's a spirit. Those are usually hate or rage demons. They're very angry, huge frustrations. They'll have growl at you too. They'll have growl at you too. I've had them growl at me. They're growlers. But yeah, no, that's a spirit. But anybody can have a bad day. That doesn't mean it's your chuck full of demons. If I just walked into that store and I was buying a soda and a Singapore stick guy come up behind me, whacking me on the head for buying a soda, I would have gotten upset. What are you hitting me in the head for with a Singapore stick? So last night you were talking about how or the intention of it today is how souls are attracted together. But they're souls that are repelled, like they repel each other. Exactly is that repelling again? That happens all the time. What is that thinking about like specifically, like if I walk into a room and like, oh, something might just like, don't want to be around him much. That happens all the time. That happens all the time. Yeah, everybody has a conscience. And if you get around Jeffrey Dahmer, you don't even need to talk to him. Something's off there. It's kind of a sense that, oh my god, you know, I got to get away. So it's not necessarily something reflective on you? No, it could be your conscience picking it up. Yeah, it could be your spirit man picking it up. You can experiment it yourself. When you get home, just stand there and then just have somebody come up slowly behind you, turn the light off or something. And when they get right up here or a certain area, you kind of sense it, like something, whoa. Some people can walk into a room and then you kind of feel the creeps. No. I don't understand that, but I need to, I think I'll go. Yeah, it happens all the time. People are creepy. Does that be something you wouldn't play hands on, I'm assuming? No, I wouldn't, but I have Kelly do it, but I wouldn't do it. So yeah, your conscience and your spirit man, your inner man can pick up stuff in your environment without being told. You can sense stuff. You can pick up demons instantly in your environment, particularly if you're sleeping. You'll just wake up, my god, there's somebody in the room. It feels like somebody's in my room and they are in there. If somebody's standing around watching you, you can kind of sense it. People on drugs are really good at that while they're high, particularly meth for some reason. I don't exactly know why. Yeah, they can sense stuff in their environment. They can see it. Sometimes they'll see spirits motive moving through the room, moving behind them, or they'll turn around and swore somebody was there. So you're just sitting somewhere and someone comes up to you and you get this horrible feeling about them. They approach you and they want to shake your hand or hug you or something. How do you get away from that? Why do I want to do that? Normally, handshaking is all the further I would go with that. I wouldn't get any hugging going. I try to avoid it. Just come up to you and grab you? Some of them will, yeah. It's hard to do if you've got a kind of rejection demons and you've got low self-esteem. You're not very assertive person or you're an introvert. Somebody coming at you, hi. It's kind of hard to get them off of you if you don't have that kind of assertiveness in your personality temperament. Mace. Mace. No, we don't use mace in the ministry, but I've had a few. I thought about it. In Jesus' name, be healed. There you go. Stop manifesting. We don't use mace here. We get sued. Kelly's our ministry mace. So all this stuff here you'll be seeing accelerate as America goes into the hellhole. It's all in the Bible. It's going to happen. Revelation, I think a few years away. I mean, we're close now. You can see the signs of it here. So we got to get as many people healed and delivered and saved as we can before we get out of here. There's an urgency to this now that we didn't have in the 70s. Yeah. So these things have to manifest, right? I mean, you said some of them can go to dormant, but they'll have to manifest, right? Well, if they get exposed, I mean, if this person doesn't do any self-awareness auditing at all, they'll stay in there until the guy drops dead. Yeah, but what I'm saying is they have to be in a manifest. So they can only give what they have, right? So they have to manifest. They can just stay in there every time like this. Those demons are still better than them. They have to manifest, right? So as long as they're doing that self-awareness, they'll don't know they're there. No, no. The demons, see, this guy got saved here. So these group went dormant. The alcohol, drug, and anger, they're still active. But these guys went dormant. They won't make a peep until later. So you can't get them out. You can't get them out. You don't know they're there. That's their goal. Yeah, they want you to eventually they'll pop up. Eventually they'll pop up. They're insurance policies to destroy you. Yeah, if they don't do anything, you don't know they're there. Yeah, that's right. They'll hide. They hide. Yeah, if you know, if you suspect they're there and you've got a nice anointing, yeah, you can drive. If they're not going to audit themselves, you audit them. Right. Correct. Yeah. And this guy here's brainwashed. He said, well, I went to a fortune teller, but it was nothing. I was on a Ouija board. It was nothing. They don't think it's anything. See, because they're hiding. But you know they're there because the guy was on a Ouija board. Is it possible for them to remain hiding even though you're hitting at them? Yeah. If this person or the person working with you is doubting, doesn't have any faith, doesn't have a high anointing, they demons won't budge. They'll tell you to go screw yourself. They have to be forced out. They're not going to just go out. And they know who's a threat to them. They know who you are. And if you're not a threat, they'll either stay silent or they'll, like I said, they'll growl at you or start laughing at you right in the middle of the deliverance. They start laughing. As soon as that happens, I just shut the thing down. Well, I miss something. They're laughing at me. That means they know something I don't know. So I got to pull out until I get my bearings straight. And usually the person will know why they're laughing. If I ask them, they'll usually know. Not always, but they'll get an idea. When I first started this ministry, I had, I told you this story a few years ago, but the schizophrenic guy I was mentoring, I had gotten a call on the ministry line on my radio program. Some guy, family, called me. He's over up on Bethany. And what's that hospital up here in Bethany in 19th Avenue? Huh? John C. Lincoln. Abrazo. Abrazo used to be what? The one up here used to be, that was that hospital. Anyway, that hospital, he was over there. So me and Schizo, we go over there. And at that time, the house of healing wasn't even open. I just shut the business down, left my, laid off my employees, left my practice, went in the ministry. I bagged the whole thing. And it was just in their empty building. And then, so I didn't have anywhere to take the guy. We went over the hospital and got him, picked him up and come to find out he had wolf demons. And I know anything about wolf demons. This was, this was like 20 years ago or something, you know, when I first started. And you know, I didn't know nothing from nothing. So I'm in a total learning cycle back then, total learning cycle. So I thought, well, let's take him to my building. So I took him over to the house of healing that used to be my counseling building. And I had two saw horses over there in the storage room. And a piece of, what do you call that stuff? The wood you put on the wall to decorate. What's that called? You know, you put it on the wall. So we had a wood, wood panel, some kind of paneling, paneling. So I, so I put these two saw horses up and put this paneling thing I had in the corner on top of it. And I had the guy lay down there so we could pray for him. For some reason, I thought people needed to lay down and relax. And we start praying and his spirits start manifesting. Some of them are growling. Some of them are doing all kinds of weird stuff. I'd never seen anything like it. I didn't really know what I was doing. So the schizo kid plows into him. And I go, wow, okay. So I sit back and I pull up a chair and I sit back here. A schizo hammers away at his demons. He's all enthused in everything. And I'm just watching and learning. And this goes on for about 20 minutes. And he comes staggering over to me. The schizo kid and he goes, I'm tired. I said, okay, let's go ahead and sit down. And so the wolf guys lay in there quiet. And I'm sitting in my chair, caddy corner from in there, on this beautiful plywood bed I had created. It was a work of art actually. And suddenly another voice starts talking to me. And I'd never had a demon talk to me before. I didn't know what the heck was going on. I really didn't know what I was doing. But I wanted to help him and everything. And this demon goes, I've been in him for years. Kind of talked like a Vincent Price movie, you know? And I'm going, he isn't weird. So I just sat there quiet, looking around. He goes, I have been alive for a thousand years. Whoa. I ain't saying nothing. He goes, this is not his voice. It's a totally different voice. It is weird. I kind of swore allegiance. Then this demon starts chattering about something, telling me different stuff. And I go, after a while I go, who are you talking to? Well, he shuts up just like that. So I get out of my chair and I go over and I wake this guy up. He was in a trance. I'm poking. Hey, forgot his name. Bob. Bob. He wakes up. I said, some demon was talking to me over there. He said, you had a covenant. You had a vow. Did you give him a vow? He coughed it up. Yeah, I did give a vow. And I'm thinking to myself, that demon just screwed himself. Why did he tell me that? I guess he thought I was such an idiot that I wouldn't have caught on to it. So he was bragging for a thousand years. Who are you talking to? You know, I wasn't interested, but I was interested in that vow. That caught me. So I woke the wolf guy up. And he admitted it. And we had him pen of it. And that did it. A whole pack of wolves come out of him. They went on for like an hour, growling, barking, screaming. They all pitched a fit. But I, he had let the cat out of the bag and screwed up. Because he knew, he must have known I was a rookie deliverance person and didn't know, have any idea what I was doing. Assumed I was an idiot. But I caught that. And I never forgot it. God showed me, you know, demons are not omniscient. They don't, they're not perfect. They make mistakes like humans. And he overplayed his hands because of his ego. Because he thought he had us because he wasn't coming out. He wore my schizo front out. I was pooped. He'd beaten both of us up. And they started bragging. Hey, pride goes before destruction. A hotty spirit before a fall. I never forgot that. Great learning experience. And so that was father trying to, trying to train you. He'll, he'll stay with you 100% of the way. He's there every minute trying to help you. That guy went home healed. It was unbelievable. It was just amazing. Schizo guy, he was loaded with demons. He had been an eight. He was on eight medications that have been in six hospitals. He came out of an occult, but he had huge lust demons. He had huge fear demons. He had narcissistic personality disorder, major pride. He smoked cigarettes. What else did he have? I wonder what I forgot. But anyway, he got, we got rid of everything over four and a half years, except this one, the narcissism. That never came out. So he was with me about five years and then he left, started his own ministry. But he was completely delivered from paranoid schizophrenia within about a year and a half. He had delivered the cigarettes about six months. So it was a whittling process over the years. And he was so sick, I developed a technique of deliverance called isolation. And so what I did with the guy three times, I had him go to a hotel by himself for two or three days at a stretch and do nothing but frage worship, Bible study, and self-deliverance in a hotel room, locked away. It was that bad. That's the worst one I've run into. I've never had anybody delivered from that. It's horrible. You know, they won't listen. They think they're superior to you and their master manipulators. They don't have a sting of guilt about anything. They'll just manipulate you and trash you and nothing, no conscience. It's tough because I can't get them to repent. They won't even acknowledge it. I'm not a narcissist. I don't have pride, you know. This is blinding the self. And if you're blinding the self, you can't see that you're doing anything wrong. You can't see it. This doesn't quench that guy's anointing at all. His anointing, when he was at the house of healing, his anointing was huge. He had got to a huge point. He was blowing demons out of whole rooms full of people. I mean, almost everybody sitting here was getting deliverance. I mean, he just stood fantastic. Now his anointing is way below that. Nothing even close to it. Oh really? Yeah. But back then, he was killing it. Because of that? The narcissism? Yeah. So eventually it just started to wipe it out? It didn't wipe it out. He still has an anointing, but nothing like he had when he was at the house of healing. Not even close. He got a lot of people healed, prayed for a lot of people got healed. In fact, I was doing the seminars and now I turned the altar over to him. He'd do the altar call. And they're just blowing everybody out. It was great. Saved me a lot of work. So that's pooped. Eventually, if he pushes forth through, they'll have that same spirit. If eventually what? They'll probably transfer it into people that he's discipling. Narcissism. You know, I haven't seen that very much. The sasters and that the sexual stuff and then the other underlings will kind of get into it. Oh, the sexual stuff? That'll transfer in a heartbeat. Narcissism? That I haven't seen very much. No. I'm not sure. I don't have a lot of experience with that. Lusty. Oh, they transferred a heartbeat. Oh, they just float everywhere. It's the King David syndrome. Everybody's loaded with lust in me. Whole family. What's the bottom line? You can use these scriptures as we'll close. You can use these scriptures to help people by showing them that you have to fight for your life. And God requires it. And if you'll do that, I guarantee you're getting healed and delivered right here. If you'll do it, if you'll fight for your life, it'll work. If you don't, if you're going to let it slide, you got to stay sick to your die here. Stay there to your die. You're going to die with demons. You're going to die missing your destiny. And we can't have that. We got to do everything we can to help them. Okay. And as I'll close with this, Angel is going to be the new healing house manager. We're going to turn it into a women's facility. And yeah, she's been going through a lot of deliverance over the last six months. So she's kind of been in training. Yeah. She wasn't ready six months ago. So I was just patient with her. And she had a lot of this too. I had, she had to learn how to self analyze. She wasn't very good at that at the beginning. The demons told her she was feeling good and doing great. And in the beginning, she bought it. But over the last few months, we've got that Singapore stick. And so she should be ready to write. Okay. You need to say anything? What? Lord willing. Yeah. She works part-time somewhere. What do you do? She writes out prescriptions for pets. You what? You fill prescriptions for pets. Okay. That didn't even a job I've ever heard of. In fact, I'm going to have Kelly investigate that because I don't really believe that job exists. But anyway, do pets take medication? I guess they do. Okay. So we got a bunch of chocolate pets. She works all day with demon dogs. Okay. So I'm glad to know that now. So Renju. You're doing prescriptions too. This ministry is loaded with drug addicts. What happened? Wow. I blew it. All right. You just got a job. New job. She got a new job filling prescriptions for humans, not animals. Any other pharmacists here? Any addicts here? Anybody involved with drugs? Just you two? Okay. We're good. We're good. All right. Now, if you've audited yourself and you sensed something was in there, it shouldn't be in there. Let's turn the light off. Come down here for prayer. Let's get this thing out of there. If they're hiding in there. If not, okay. We'll just go ahead and close. Thank you, Jesus. Somebody needs to audit themselves and you feel that there's something in there that you're willing to fight for. You've got your sheet out and it shows you that you've got to press in for a miracle like the dying leper, like broader mass, like the two blind men, like the two maniacs of Gergesenius, like the maniac of Gadra, like all these people came to Jesus and they came to the Lord. They said they were not going to take no for an answer is what they did. That's basically how it worked. They came to Jesus. They knew he was the healer and the deliverer period. They knew he was a Messiah. They knew he was God and you also know that you know that that he is a Messiah and he is God period. You know that everyone you know that everybody knows that and he is the only person who can heal the only person that can help. If I cannot heal or help, he does everything. And if you press into him, you are going to get a touch from God today. That's a guarantee. That girl at the Dream Center, she repented of those two instructors. The Holy Spirit just plowed right into them demons. He stepped on her faces. He'll do the same thing for you if you push your way in. That is a guarantee. All right, let's do it now. Dear Jesus, I read those scriptures. Brother Mike gave me. I know the scriptures are divinely inspired and they are the Word of God. I read them and I know, I know I can press in. I'm not used to doing that and I don't feel comfortable with it, but the anointing is here and I can do it. I can receive the gift of pressing in and receiving my miracle from God. I can do it because grace covers it, mercy covers it. It's all here today. All of it's here. Everything's here because the Holy Spirit's here. He's got everything there is to have in this world and the next. He's got it all. And right now I'm going to take my authority in the name of Jesus. Brother Mike's right. I think something might have hidden in there and it kind of pops up occasionally. It's a lust thing, an anger thing, or what have you thing. Low self-esteem thing, self-hatred thing. I'm inadequate thing. I feel unworthy. That thing keeps popping up and I know that's not me and I want that thing out of there at any cost today, at any cost. And I command you, Spirit, by the authority of the Word of God. In the name of Jesus, come out of me right now. I want you to come out of me right now and I'm not asking you, I'm telling you. I'm telling you to leave now. Just like that girl at the Dream Center, you come out in Jesus' Holy Name. I know what the symptoms are. I know there's a red flag in my gut. I got a gut feeling. Something ain't right. Something's not right. I got a gut feeling. There's something still in there. He's still in there. I know he's still in there and you know he's still in there. Yes, you do. You know he's still in there and he is not to be in there anymore. You come out. Come out right now. Come out right now. You demon of insanity. You come out right now. Stop torturing me. You come out right now. Get out of my body right this second. Get out of my body right now. Come out right now. Go. Come out right now. Come on out. Spirit, come out of me right now. And anoint. Come out of my body right now. You spirit of insecurity and fear. Let go of me this second. Let go of me this second. How dare you steal my life from me? How dare you steal my mind? How dare you do it? I'm pressing in hard and fast. The kingdom of heaven suffers violence and the violent take it by force. They take it by force. I command you in the name of Jesus. I'm taking it by force. I'm taking it by force. I'm taking it for. Come out. Come out there right now. Evil. Come out of me. You're evil. Stop talking to my mind. Stop talking to the end. Come out. Satan, come out. Satan, come out. The violent take it by force. Come out right now. There it goes. Hold that. Good girl. Come on. Take it by force. Take it by force. Take it by force. You get out of my head right now. I'm not going to tell you twice. Get out of my head right now. Hurry up. Come out here right now. I'm not going to tell you twice. Come out of my head right now. I'm not going to tell you twice. Come out. Come out. This isn't a debate. I told you to come out. I told you to come out. Get out of my mind. Get out of my brain. Come out, you monster. I command you to come out. Go right now. Go right now. Come out. Come out right now. Get out of that body right now. Come out of there. Come on. Come out. Get out of there, buddy. Come out in Jesus' holy name. Come out right now. And go. Come out of there. Get out. Get out. Get out of that body right now. Hurry up. Come on in. Get angry. In. In fight. In fight. Come on in. Come out in. Come on in. Come on in. Come on in. Come out of that body right now. What are you doing over here? I'm trying to get cleaned up. Cleaned from what? Resentment over employers treating me with disrespect. They treat you like a doormat? Of course. Good. Now why is God allowing that to happen? Why did he allow it to happen before? Why is God allowing them to treat you like that? I'm not sure why he allowed it. There's no reason. Oh, I'm sure it's unreality. It's just like the last time you let her do it. What are you doing? They mistreat you. What are they? What do you do after they do it? After they mistreat me? Yeah. I always blame myself for something instead of saying no. Why won't you repent of it? I'm trying to destroy my life. No, you're not really repenting. You know what Godly sorrow is? I do not receive them. That's not Godly sorrow. That is not who I am. That is not who I am. I hate you. Now the demons are telling them to beat you up so you cannot find your destiny and you'll never find your call. It's a trick. I forgive myself. You're falling into a trap. You let your tears go now.