 We have just previously seen very, very interesting videos of which Mota has just changed my life and I don't know how someone can just anachagua nyoka kama. Eh, matunda, I am still traumatized, guys. It's still making me feel some type of worry, but anyway, we have moved on swiftly and now we are where we're supposed to be, that is strength of a woman right above now. We are talking about polygamy and polyandry and I am just going to have fun, guys. I am going to enjoy this enjoyment. But couple of days later, what's your guess? We are going to introduce you. Hi. Hi. What's your name? My name is Umina Hordley. PSA. Yes, sweet, sweet. No one gave you of the time. Mama needs you to cut TV. No one gave you. Tell us about yourself. Okay, I've already introduced my name. So I work with Angaza Youth Initiative, that is in Kilefi. I also work with the team name of foundation. That is best in Nairobi, but it is a CBO. This one, it focuses mainly on kids, both gender. It is all about giving back to the society. But now Angaza Youth Initiative, this one, it is best in Kilefi South. And then it mainly focuses on the young adolescent girls and young women. So it goes there maybe because to the interior parts of Kilefi, then it does the empowerment. It also focuses on sexual reproductive health and rights. Okay. First of all, do you physically go to Kilefi? You don't travel to Kilefi? No, it's very virtual. Actually, that is where I stay. I'm a student. Oh, I'm so jealous. I am so jealous. Okay, it's fine. Let me compose myself. Okay, so tell me about environment in Kilefi first. And why sex education? When it comes now to Kilefi, Kilefi as a county, we have so many issues. We have issues on teenager pregnancy. We have also the rate of HIV and STI, it's too high. So as a group, we decided rather than just focusing on maybe environment and sanitation, conservation, something of that sort, let us focus on the gas we want to empower them because we will find that majority of the people in Kilefi, those coming from interior, they are boys. So matters dealing with the gas, they have been a bit left behind. So that is why we decided to focus on the culture. Okay, so is this like a mentorship program? So every other day you talk about the parts of the body, what they do, what goes in where, what's not supposed to go in where at what time, what walk me through it. Okay, it is part of mentorship, I can say so. But we also do, we can also sometimes we can do the pads drive, apart from that we can also do the socio-economic empowerment, whereby we can maybe assemble a group of young mothers because we will find if a girl drops out at standard 7 due to pregnancy, she won't be able to go back to school maybe because of the environment or one, two, three things from the society. So we do the mentorship, we do socio-economic empowerment, maybe we can teach her how to make soap. So just from her within, rather than just sitting there idle and you don't have any source of income and you have to get a diaper because you have already given birth to the person who impregnated you. Anaruka story. Anachizakaya. So you have to be thick upstairs. Ya, so that is why we decided to come up with such. And you see, young girls they are getting pregnant. They don't have information on the use of contraceptives. So we have to come up as a group then to Nawambia, the benefit of using contraceptives to Nawambia. Because some of the cases you will find that mother and father broke up. So the girl decided to remain with the father. Waka telikwa na period for the first day. Ha kwa na jailewa. So she got maybe idea from someone you need to have a sanitary towel. So approaching the father Umwambia, I need sanitary towels. It is tricky and then you get someone who can give you $50 and then that is why now they get pregnant. So we still have to mentor them on the use of sanitary towels. Hi, it takes deep breath but... Adi sote me pute adeyo deep breath. Okay, I don't want to put in my thoughts just yet. But kuna time, I don't know if it was last year or the other one. That kilifili kwa na trend because of so many teenage pregnancy. Like it was a lot. Nivile tu me kuja kuju wa tu juzi, ama it's been happening. So many institutions have told their workers to go home. Kilam tu. Mwera fwa kuwa shulea mingiha hasol. They are trying to put food on the table for the siblings or their parents. So niyo ime encourage amani TV tunde me fika pumashinani de katuambia. But these things have been happening. No, it has been there. It has been a corona outbreak. Ikaribu manena. Because you could find most of the people going now to work. So many small households are locked down. So those tourists used to come along the beaches. Now hawa kuji because of the lockdown. So you can imagine. Sinashambapakulima because they were there. It is too hot. So even doing that farming. It is a bit tricky. You have to be just smart. So you will find. Musazi ameka apu, dekida kwa apu. Both of them. Then kwa roll says nanza to domestic violence. And you see some mothers wako. Wako like. They can't just struggle. Before corona. So no, they used to go to work. So kupata yo time you in touch violence. It was a bit low. Breakdown of corona. Dad is there. The mum is there. The kid is also there. And they are coming from totally low background. So we can't manage to get you a pad. Natina taka kukula. Mojelazma. And even if someone could have approached this girl. Now I am here. We can make reusebosanitari towels. But now. Mwenyangewafunza like me I know how to make. But now source of income. Haiku kwa because we have to sit in the house. No working. And then. Ataka maniku to miaki raka. We have also to know which type of raga we use. You seem to improvise the sanitari towels. We have no idea. So you find. Like Muschana na sama isuru wa sheikai. I need to get the easiest way of finding. Money. Then umtuwa jama menta moambie. Even if you go na wuklin mahali. Or even you hook food. Una hook and jogo. Just to get your money. Azahu mani. It will be your strongest protection. Nobody is there to tell them. So you get most of them become victims. Yeah. How do you make a reusable sanitari towel? I also don't know. Ni kama daipa. Ni kama napkinia kitamba. We have certain types of material. Just don't pick any material. Teach me. Teach us. Please, we are at your mercy. So we have three types of reusable sanitari towels. We have the loose reusable sanitari towels. We have inbuilt and self-contained. Yes, so it depends. I feel like writing notes continue. So for the loose, we normally advise. For those people who maybe were traveling the student people, they need to use those ones. But kama when you say when you are at home, we advise inbuilt and self-contained. Though for the inbuilt and self-contained, they are a bit expensive. But now, as you say, we don't have a machine. We don't have anything loose reusable sanitari towel. It's a bit cheap. Material are a bit cheap. Material gunia. We have different types of cotton. So we can use the linen. We have a normal cotton. We have the flannel cotton. And then we have to use plastic press button. What? Because if we use bakrolin, itachana rakajia kufua, then after using them, duration is three to four hours. It depends with your flow. So after using them, we encourage you wash and then you dry them properly. Because if they don't again dry well, you will get rasezu kuchini. Maybe you can get vaginal yeast infection. Boy child, I know this is making you a bit uncomfortable, but you'll be fine. Okay? Sometimes there are some things you need to know. Problems are going on. Continue. Ya. If you also don't air them properly, utanuka. Oh. Ya. Problem after problem. Okay. So they are good. They last. Duration is three to four years. Ya. Okay, okay. They last. We even get the donors, we even maybe we say the governments come to chip in, but you'll see they will donate the sanitary towel. They will even look for people to do the advocacy on girl child issue with menestrol hygiene, but they won't tell you how to use them. Ya, ya. Shuleni tu me kuja aaya. Tu na pangafu lene. Tu na piawa sanitary towel. Tuna pigwa picha aaya. Tu wei shika pats. But they don't tell us how do you use. What are the effects? Do you know there are some people when they use the disposable sanitary towels, okuna itching in our face. Ya, so it also depend na padinyu na tu mi. We have the other one Zito, so hekona kuton, hukiv rute hivi that one is not advisable if you use and then you're not washing your vagina well hekonoina tokaina ina stiku kuku so the moment you continue sitting you don't rinse yourself well you mix yourself with the detergent nini nini chemicals they affect ukuchini so you'll get we have what we call the groin kwa groin we have uvimpa ndogo ndogo, small bones, but they are very hard. So because of your poor hygiene, you kitu hiivi it is too hard, like ningumu. So when you force to press it, kuna kitu inaruka kandogo kama affid. Can you see that she's telling this story? It's affecting me blood. I'm getting a lot of damage, but it's affecting me. I don't know if it's affecting the story. So you kitu affid, iki ruka, like inaruka, and then damu inato. And then this damu, it is a combination of damu in the past, not playing past. That's uchongo plus, badoku na nuka. And then it toucha kitu kama shimu. So you will find some people on their groin, even mature ladies. We have to kuna, we to kama ball because alipambana kupresiyo kitu na alifil pain. So still ilipona, ikaji funga bati utapatapu, nikama to mountain to dogo to dogo. Because of poor hygiene. And remember it is not only one. Every time you have menstruation, you don't take proper hygiene. That is what happens to you. So it's very important. Hygiene is very important. All the time yes, but especially during your cycle. And then immediately you finish your cycle. You need to taftajilet. So you have to shave. So as in good circulation of hair. Also in any nachangia to surf. Okay, do you teach boy child this? Yeah, we have to teach them. You see it is a men special. So this mean we begin with men. So men involve men. We have teachers. We have male teachers in high school. We have male teacher in NGOs. Maybe in remote schools. And maybe we have girls there. So what happens if the ladies who are teacher they are absent. The male have to come in. That is where you will see nowadays. If the girl is in the period for the first time. You will find some male teachers. They chip in their pocket. They give to them. So it is not a must. Not all men what I teach. But we have those pieces still. Okay God is watching you. So they will do that. But at the end of the day. They want something in return. But we will find. That is why we will find some men right now. Even in our group. In our Gaza youth initiative. Majority are men. Majority when we come together. And do a pads drive. Men water. Still water to book on behalf of girls. So it is good to involve men. Even when we go to do the advocacy. In primary school. We normally like to involve boys. So that what you are now is going to be a fuka. Si kumcheka. Si kumcheka na kuruka. Mwantiyo umbea. Si ku. Everywhere you pass 2, 3 boys together. Ki na. Wanda wanda. Kus kwa kupilu kut standi kisha wanda. Kwa kupili kutanda wa kupili kutanda. Ati kwa kupili kutanda wa kupili kutanda. Adil kuta kutanda. Kwa kupili kutanda. Kutanda wa kupili kutanda. Kutanda wa kupili kutanda. Adil kutanda wa kupili kutanda. But if we are finally educating the boy child to know that this is normal, that okay, yes, some people do not experience their menses every month, but usually it's that's the case. So definitely in that tumizi, we too, definitely need some certain type of usafi during this time and all the hormones involved. So sayo nispo ringi, ingine, atrudin Nairobi. You told me there's something based in Nairobi that you're working on now that includes the boy child and the girl child. Yeah, that one actually is team name. So team name, we don't major on gals. It is type of a fun drive just within, we normally do, I can say within Kenya, because so far we have done in Kisumu, the drive that was feeding the street. No, ma tembe ya, na kwa na. Not really. Ha, ya'll be modest now. And then where else, that was in Kisumu. Kisumu, we went to a street just within the CBD. And then we also went to Kajulu Village to feed the old. Then currently we are going to Masaimara, that is second name on foot. So nenda kutana na nombikampel na kinawazungu. Not really. Tani beba ui. Ya, so it is a kind of giving back to the society. But apart from that, we also do the disability stuff. So with the disability because we normally say for our human home to be complete, we also need to include people living with the disability. Ya, because you know all of us, we have disability. Ya, it is only that. But even sleeping a lot, you don't like writing, you don't like reading. That is disability. Wow. Ya. Okay, that's funny. So like last year, last year we organized for a talent show that was Kilefi Disability Talent Show. Ya, where we really wanted to crown Mr. and Miss Disability Kilefi County. But according to how we could have crowned the person, it depends on how that person despite being disabled has done 1, 2, 3 to impact the lives of people in the society. But because of ABC, Haikwenda Thru. So we are still thinking on how to do this year Bardo. Ya, because we still have time. We normally celebrate our world disability day on 3rd December. So we can still do the same. But currently we are working on how on 8th March we celebrate International Women's Day. That's 5 days from now. Ya, 5 days from now. So we will be looking at those women, maybe interior or just within Kilefi County. Whether they come from town or interior but just within Kilefi County. Who did a great impact to the girls. If not even to the girls, to the people living with the disability during COVID season and we will be celebrating them. I like that. Ya. Okay. Sisi ukutu na pendoksema, April differently. So I want to ask, is there a stigma? Ya ni, wanyu aneshi mashnani na wanyu maybe ni tawtaw kia say what are able differently but kuna stigmatization of sorts like to say muku mashnani instead of kusaidio I'm being accepted for huiwao na ambiwao ni uchawi and the wombarist junini versus town maybe even places again wanaenda that they're sensitive even the structures of the building kuna ramp as opposed to stairs ama kitu kamaeo do you think it's fair in both worlds ama to say di aji kwae fair Okay. Like in Kenya misiyo ni unless to lay that person was able differently na mayo moka tu wizo ni layi kia so you mayo mayo moka I think that when he's in a good position he can even express he or she can even express herself or himself well but when we go to masinani areas you will find tweme mother ameza a deaf kid at a skia because you need a lot of things zeni zina demoralize na kumuha to break but now when you come to town it is another story maybe you are living a life yaku iko you see some people they come to town but town niniwe the so called Nairobi hapuna job yeah so they struggle they struggle but still there's nothing so you'll find ana beg kwa street nubani stigmatization so mean I wanna like town people were able differently they suffer they just suffer well but the worst thing is like there was a time that was actually last year I was doing just some statistic on people living with the disability within Nairobi town whereby I found 60% of people who are this who are able differently like wako town and a half of them they are beggars so these beggars like they will sit there from morning wala lay up and then a half now there were 30 they drop in the morning evening someone comes to people but now I ask myself if I can drop you there why can't you why should I not give you like maybe niku kwa empawani kufun zeta kama niku tengeneza bidoak you do it by yourself yeah and then we'll get now 30% of these people they are hustling like utapata someone will chair but another mask another one another one but that's the problem with the Kenyans some of the Kenyans when they see a person who is just the able different they don't want to promote niku kwa nga wana thkiri anini wachatuni kupi example I'm really glad you said that kus kuna time a few years back nili kwa mamka ma perma niku kwa tau I don't know what I was doing I was waiting for something it had to be very early any kabla so in my head it was about to explode I was like now, how will I know who is telling me the truth nani anini pima nani anine unnitu help it's very difficult in this year's streets to know what is going on and who is who kuna wengine kuna konaflani kuna madam yushinda ameni ni wa totoa kia po o Siju ya nombam sahada alafun kwa kwa march naongelesha driver flani amemi ame umama me kuwa po for the past 5 years lakini mtotoa kwa hikuwa mkubwa soa na jina nenda nombam toi alafu ikuwa bieshada you just don't know who is being sincere in this new town now that is now the 10% remaining people are you saying they are faking ya so lakini mtotoa kwa kia nisha because me when I was taking the statistic ili nuchikwa almost one week na kuja? I just stand somewhere and then I'm like asbui pimerawa kwa town kwa na kwa galiya watu so and you just keep quiet na nga liya jana ni lemkuta hapa the next day ame locate shiz ako ako the other place asbui wa lakini mtotoa kwa kamali kwa hapa next day where you are sitting ya then kuna uletu mwenye aki ono atu anapita isha turn march ya see now that is the 10% pukuna ishinda sahu yu tanda ya mkita kwa uko sitam tani uko me kanda kanda pidongo tanda isi nipat but I am a firm believer in tenda mema nawa ndezako so if it's your heart is telling you to give or in your position if you are in a position to give where you just give nawa nde to see us juliza ati menda api wananda kwa ya nini oh no just down to it just give from the bottom of your heart and others will be added on to you I mean I am not getting my friends a hashtag when the morning alright maybe in conclusion what makes you do what you do bono kuna iroh okay for me like growing up ahead of vision this is a dream actually I am fighting I want to become a period is it period for ambassador ambassador for period let us just go with that one ya after becoming ambassador for periods then I go machinani you see bido machinani oh menda interior pene like in cost interior interior ya ni mtua mesi kwa numbaya makuti for 20 years nai meto boku meto boku na since one year rea kunyesha ya ni someone is 21 years old 21 years old she has 4 kids husband afani kazi and he sold maybe a land after selling the land to buy motorcycle so alkwa nai endesha rekesi after 2 years motorcycle you marry because so the husband is there and he just want to go to machinani kabisa then I do this reo sebo sanitary towels tutorials I teach them I explore everything on many straw ya then after that I give them I don't actually give them money but I give them empowerment you know it is good when someone give you an empowerment rather than a kupepesa I can teach you how to make the shagimats and then from there you can take it as a business to singo je to say a campaign to na kibiya so nai wana sabiwa ma nani maybe like 100 bomb you go buy soda or maybe unga from there what else but if I can teach you how to make the shagimat you can use it as a skill to wanna live because you just you are a drop out of form to class 7 mimi kumatim wana documentary not before there was empowerment before there were pad drives ya ni mtuak shikatuivi na cycle anaka kumchanga ya ni wana chimba shimo na make up for the next 3 days hasongi I am like lord at most wooo you know her cycles are different oh my gosh and then people like and now I am quite sure it is going to change we are so very proud of you thank you na kiyomoka wukumote kumboka liko wukum kushia wukumoka bado how can we support you how can we maybe give funds to the causes that you are part of how can we kama ni kujito leatu kama viewers na kama mimi how can we help you my name I take on Facebook Folic PSA P-H-O-L-I-C no kuna swag mimi givata Folic PSA na manisha kitu no I am a ministrating queen by the way if you can also check on that you will find me it's a hidden meaning twitter ni administrating queen omina folic I thought she was kidding she is not she is actually administrating queen I am proud of myself because that is now what makes me to be a woman you are going to change lives yeah I pray to God wow kama kwa roma swali ziletem bion bion kablata toka studio juchunenda kumon bia kai mali VIP because she is a queen like she said and remember it's white platform facebook white 254 channel onto her hashtag it's one of the morning next our panel coming up and again we will be talking about polygami and polyandri just one minute your thoughts about polygami is where a man marries many wives of course umtani rilete adi solomon you will bring the bible into this but polyandri which is not so common is where a woman marries many husbands and it might be a shock to you but it's something that happens quite often somewhere in the Orient it's very common for women to have more than one husband or even my brothers all three and of course a posasandota samasaitan nyuf nyuf nyuf but what do you think for me just from my personal view I can't accept which one they want to be married by one man marrying many of you or you marrying many men what I can't accept I can't accept I can't accept I am so itty with this conversation guys so very much anticipating so hit us up hashtag is white in the morning don't you go away