 Welcome to the ITU studio in Geneva, on the occasion of GSR 2018, the Global Symposium for Regulators. I'm very pleased to be joined in the studio today with Mr. Tarik Hamza Zain El Abdain, who is the CEO of Pseudotel. Mr. El Abdain, thank you very much, Steve, for joining us in the studio today. Thank you for having me here. Now, I'd like to start off talking to you a little bit about the regulatory challenges. We've been talking about here new regulatory frontiers. It's been very much the byline for this symposium. What regulatory challenges are you facing in view of the new ICT ecosystem now dominated by emerging technologies such as AI, Internet of Things, et cetera? Thank you very much for having me here today. It was one of very impressive, actually, panel I did today. Our challenges in Sudan or in Africa are the same as the challenges in the globe. Very the challenge of making the spectrum available for the coming 5G, which is a complete transformation of the technology, because 5G is not just a broad map of new technology, but it's a new paradigm and a new shift of technology, which is going to affect the human life. One of the issue of the, not only the regulatory, also the availability or the availability of the fund. Actually, the lack of fund will stop and prevent the move to 5G and vice versa. And also, one of the issues is to make the skill, the human being skill to be available to deal with the new arena of the digital economy, the new ecosystem of tomorrow. This is one of the few challenges that you are meeting with the regulatory today. And have you got a schedule in place? Have you got a time, a date, some kind of goal in mind in terms of rolling out 5G? Yeah, actually, even we are under discussion now with the regulatory in Sudan, and also we are operating in West Africa and many other countries. Actually we started the pilot project of 5G now in Sudan, and we're going to start this in Senegal and Mauritania very soon. I think by 2020, first quarter of 2020, 5G will be available for our customer and consumer across Africa and Middle East. How do you think it will change people's lives? Absolutely, because 5G with IoT, with AI, with all this will impact the social life of people. For example, if I talk about healthcare, the 5G will connect the patient and the care providers and the care takers, they will put them together and will connect them with always on secure devices, which allow the doctor to talk to the patient, which is very important especially for Africa, and I'm sure it's going to impact the people life very positive. Also, on money transfer now with the limited available of cash in all over the globe, we'll try to use the mobile and 5G to transfer the money around and be in line with the FinTech technology. And how important is this GSR to your organization who is taking the time to be here? I want to find out what concrete outcomes do you hope to be taking away from it? It's good. Really, I'm very impressed about this because I met a lot of folks from financial firms and also some regulatory firms and also the policymaker and ITU. So it's very important for us to be around. So as I said, we are not only operating in Sudan, we are operating in all Africa and very soon we are going to Middle East. I think this kind of dialogue and discussion is very important for us to get in connection with the ITU and the folks around the globe. One of the main problems for the new digital arena or new digital transformation is still the financial firm, then they try to find a way how to finance the new project, how to finance the new 5G network or the IoT or whatever and they are still using the old paradigm of financing which is not going to be in line. We have a lot of discussion today with folks from ING and from IFC in U.S. that they have to change their mindset, their mentality because today the value chain has been changed. Before the value chain, who is making money, the operator, the supplier and that's it, that's most of it. Now part of the value chain is the customer himself. Now the customer is not only using the mobile just for the sake of usage but now from that mobile, from the application, he can be an investor, he can be a businessman or businesswoman. Instead of just taking that mobile and use it to talk or to chat on the data, you can build a business around it. So the banks sector, they need to find a way to go to that person and try to finance him to create a new job. I think that will add about 22 million new jobs by 2020. We expected $12.3 trillion to be added to the economy of the world by 2025. All this comes just from how this new paradigm of 5G, AI and IoT. Well, that's brilliant. Well, thank you very much for being with us in the studio today and we look forward to catching up with you again sometime in the near future. Ms. Al Abdain, thank you very much indeed. Thank you, sir. Have a good one. Thank you. And do check out our other videos on the ITU YouTube channel and ITU SoundCloud for podcasts as well. Thank you.