 In this episode of Mind Pump, the world's top fitness, health, and entertainment slash comedy podcast, we answer fitness and health questions asked by listeners just like you. But the way we open the episode is with, you know, just unscripted fun conversation. Oftentimes we talk about studies or our lives. We talk about whatever we want to talk about. Sometimes we mention our sponsors. So the intro portion took about 36 minutes. After that, we answered fitness questions. So here's the breakdown of what went on in today's Mind Pump episode. We started by talking about my hair. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes, my hair. I'm going to get it. Fair of faucet. I'm getting it cut finally, but right now it's got nothing in it and it's fluffy. Yeah. Then we talk about CrossFit, more CrossFit craziness going on right now. Then Justin talked about a new show on Netflix called The Floor is Lava. That's right. It's based off of all of our favorite. You know, you played this as a kid. We all did. Then I talk about drones. Apparently the military just bought a bunch of drones that can fit in your pocket. What could possibly go wrong there? Yeah. Keep watching us. Then I talked about gut bacteria and how that may actually influence your eating habits. Your bacteria may be controlling what you crave. Are we people or bacteria? Then we talked about grass fed versus grain fed meat. You know, we've observed just on our own that when we eat a lot of meat, if it's grass fed, we tend to feel better than when it's grain fed. I've had a lot of people message us on this as well. Now we do work with a company called Butcher box that delivers all grass fed meats to your door. So you don't have to go to the grocery store. You don't have to go to deal with that craziness right now. You can go on, sign up and then get grass fed meat sent to your door. Now because of everything that's been going on, the demand has been crazy for this company. They had to actually stop bringing people on for a little while, but they're open back up. So right now you can get on butcherbox.com forward slash mind pump and you will be able to get on their wait list and then they'll email you when it's time to take your order. By the way, that link right there, if you use the code mind pump, you get a discount on your order. Then I talked about how the way we dress got the stamp of approval from young people. Oh, thank God. Probably because we're sponsored by Viori. Now Viori makes athleisure wear and they make great athleisure wear, very comfortable, has a lifetime guarantee and it looks really good. No joke. Go on their website. I'm not making this up. It's the best looking athleisure wear, comfort wear that you'll find anywhere. And of course, because you listen to mind pump, you get 25% off. That's huge. Stay cool. Look cool on all their stuff. So here's how you get the discount. Go to Viori clothing.com. That's V-U-O-R-I clothing.com forward slash mind pump. Use the code that's listed on that page to get the 25% off. Then we got to the fitness questions. Here's the first one. This person says, look, I've heard that some people say it's bad to combine fat and carbs at the same time in a meal because it can cause insulin issues. Is this true? So we answer that for them. Next question. Are trigger sessions useful when I'm trying to cut? If you're confused on what a trigger session is, listen to the episode. We explain it all. The next question. And what ways have you guys subliminally molded your children? That sounds kind of nefarious. And the final question, what is the biggest lesson we've all learned from our fathers? So we talk about our dads in that part of the episode. Also, I got something special to announce right now. This is pretty cool. It's the biggest sale of the year for us. We never discount everything. Here it comes. Like we are right now. Right now, all individual maps programs, every single individual maps program is 40% off. All of them, 40% off. Use the code summer program. That's not all though. Now we have bundles. This is where we combine programs and typically put them on sale anyway. So bundles typically discount the total price of the combined programs by about 30% off. You can get an additional 25% off right now as well with the code summer bundle. So here's the two codes. Summer program for 40% off all programs. Summer bundle for 25% off all bundles. The site you go to to get all of this is maps fitness products.com. This will end at the end of this month. This is a once a year massive, massive promotion. The sale will end again at the end of the month. So go and check it out. I don't think it's designed to be held like that. That's why. You gotta have it down and then elbowed. I'm not afraid of having my face on camera. Andrew needs to put a little sparkle. It just goes down. Sal Rock and the Farrah Fawcett. I got some DMs about what? About Jessica's post of you looking at the Bill of Rights. Yeah. A lot of people asking me if you're balding in the back. No, you know what that is? Just bad lighting. It's a little bit of hair loss probably. No, I have my hair slicked back before not right now as you could tell. It's all feathered out. Yeah. First of all, let's just look at this. It looks like a wind just going to come out. It's like a drunk Robert De Niro. Why? Why drunk? Why do I look drunk? Because he's like fucked up and didn't do his hair. He's caught him out of a nap. Right. No, no, no. It's because I'm getting a hair cut later today and I don't put anything in my hair so that they could. Are you going to tell the audience we have you going to a hairstylist? A hairstylist? Not supercuts. That's all right. That's a big jump. Supercuts are still closed. For the price of five haircuts, I'm going to get one. Do you know what I mean? I got you one on the black market this week. Stop. That's not true. It's actually scissors. It's not just. It's not true. Do you mean? But seriously though, I mean, I was the 80s before with the slick back hair. I'm going back to the 70s now with the fluffy. This was hair back in the day. Can you believe that? It's how people used to wear their hair. Dudes just used to do nothing. Let it go. It's funny. You mentioned it. I was thinking it'd be hilarious if somebody was like, oh dude, let's throw an 80s party. And it was like AD, like after death. It was all medieval. Oh really? Yeah. Did you go to one of those? No. You have a lot of nerdy friends, dude. Don't lie. I didn't. First of all, yes. Nobody actually dressed like that in the 80s. You do larping stuff too. So I feel like you'd go to a party like that. I don't. I don't. No. You do have a larping stick. No. I mean, I've done it, but it's not like, it's a joke. You know what I mean? It was one way that I could. I was trying to connect with my brother. That's like the guy who gets caught dressing up in his wife's clothes. You know what I'm saying? It's just a joke, it's just a joke. I just want to see how it feels. It's funny. Come on, like you guys haven't done that. What? You haven't even just jousted because you're like, dude, this would be hilarious. Oh, shit. I thought we were talking about something else for a second. That's your own bedroom. You want to know what's really weird? This is what's really weird. So I don't remember the last time I bought a soda or a, you know, just a drink like that, like a sugary drink or whatever. It wasn't a soda, but a Gatorade. Whatever. Same category. I never do that. But for whatever reason, we're going for a walk. It's not guilty. He feels right now. No, it's so funny. The one time we get, you know, whatever, we run into somebody who listens to the show. I love your show. I got a blue Gatorade in my head. Oh, no. Every time I go out for ice cream or pizza or something, hey. You know what I mean? Well, odds are a little higher. Adam's got a cigarette in the back. 100%. Oh my God. That would be terrible. No, I love meeting people who, you know, listen to the show. I just, you know, because, you know, one of the things, the drawbacks of doing this kind of communicating is that you don't get to see the people on the other side. So you don't really know if you're really helping anybody. Well, that's what was so awesome about the live events when we were going around and meeting people. That was a big thing. It finally made it kind of real there for a minute. It did. It did. So it's like, you know, you get to see someone and then you get to hear them tell you that, you know, the show has had a positive impact on their health and all that stuff. And it makes you feel really happy. I feel like she was a Doug fan, you know? She listened to Doug's private interview, which I, you know. It's like, there's only like two downloads on that. Hey, you know what? It was like one of the top episodes in his podcast. That's true. I believe it was. I know it was. He told me that. Yeah. He said, Doug and I, I think we're whooped on you two. That's not true. That's true. I believe that's actually true. You're stepping your lines here. I think so. I don't know about the accuracy of that. I don't see analytics. Anytime I follow like Sal's interview, if it's somebody who he interviewed with first, so I said, what did Sal get downloads was? Yeah. I want to know how he did. People want to hear. How viral this is. I mean, people want to hear if I say something crazy. That's why that's probably why I get more downloads. There's a 50 50 shot. He goes off and we're not there to balance him out. Adam just, I want to hear what Adam says when no one else stops him. Yeah, exactly. Let's do that one. Dude, did you hear more CrossFit news? Oh, bro or CrossFit news. I purposely didn't read it because I know you guys like both read it and I want to, I want you to tell me right now. Somebody Greg sold CrossFit to someone else. He sold it. Yeah, he's done. Fonito. Now here's the thing though. Don't blame him. And it's all over like Washington Post. I mean, all the big newspapers are writing about it. It's in new owners like Eric Rosa is the new owner. Yeah, some tech guy, right? So he sold it before that other guy that was going to reveal all this stuff. So that's okay. Now this is what's funny is not funny, but this is what's crazy is that everybody is talking about his stupid George Floyd statement. But I think the real reason why he's out is because of that podcast. The information on that is more damning than the stupid George Floyd statement. The tweet was stupid. It is what it is. But I mean, the accusations that that guy was claiming about him was way more damning. Yeah, way more damning. Like kind of misconduct, you know, sexual comments and the way you treat women or whatever. And more people were coming out about that. Yeah. So I think that's so the fact that he's getting out and he's getting out and the majority of people, unless you listen to mind pump are probably under the impression that it has everything to do with the George Floyd thing. I don't believe that for a second. Now, do you do you think he sold it at a like a discount? You know what I mean? Do you think you got a good? Yeah, it's not going to be at its peak, you know, value. I'm sure it went down substantially. I mean, who wants to touch that brand right now? Well, I mean, if you take it over now, because Greg left first, he apologized. And then he stepped down. Now he sold it. Do you go to Reebok and these other big sponsors and say, Hey, do you want to hey, can we renegotiate? Let's redo this because the guy that you guys were mad at is gone. Oh, do you really think it's just that? Do you think it's they were just I'm over? I think something was like a reason. Yeah, I think I think if you're a big company like Reebok and you decide to move away from a partnership, I don't know. They I mean, it's pretty quick like any accusation you watch how like quickly they drop people. Yeah, but when you're we're talking about millions of dollars and big and big partnerships like this is my opinion, I'm totally speculating right now. But I would think that it's normally the straw that breaks the camel's back. It's like I believe that Reebok probably saw things. Well, I think they just may not have been it may not have been as financially beneficial for Reebok as they expected it to be made. All right. And so and maybe and then maybe the contract says you can't break it unless there's like something. Right. And so I think that, you know, a statement, I mean, otherwise, are we getting that fucking weird? Yeah, like, yep, someone does a tweet and then you cancel a multimillion dollar contract. We are. And they've canceled like multimillion dollar shows on, you know, like just one thing or a tweet or anything like that. This is all over. It's a straight, I mean, you know, canceling, you know, Kevin Spacey off of, you know, whatchamacallit because that was that that's a little bit different. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like that stuff happens and like all that stuff is pretty normal to me. But I mean, to do a tweet like that. And then all of a sudden you have a fallout with companies. I don't know. Well, it's kind of weird right now, dude. Right now, people are afraid to say anything, anything for getting just this crazy backlash. Some of it's probably deserving. Some of it. I don't think you think this is a representation of the majority or do you think this is just a loud minority? I think it's a loud, I think it's a small, loud group. And I think a lot of sane people are, I think a lot of sane people are afraid of saying anything. And I think they're getting pushed to the point where I feel like there's a lot of stupid sheep that are like jumping on board. There's a loud minority. There's a bunch of stupid, scared sheep that are just falling in order. And then there's a bunch of the majority who just are like, I don't fucking want to get, I don't want, I'm not going to say shit. I don't want to be involved. They're going to start to get pushed because what happens up happening is if you push hard enough, then you're going to get a reaction that's going to people. Here's the thing, you know, and this is the best time to speak the truth is exactly when you're afraid to speak the truth. That's when you need to. And if you want to know who has power over you, think to yourself who you're afraid of when you say something that isn't bad, isn't evil, isn't violent, is just an opinion, especially if it's based in reason. If you're afraid of saying that kind of stuff, you know who's got the problem. And it's probably not you, it's the people who are, you know, shut this person down or whatever. It's getting really, really strange. And but I think people are getting pushed to come out the other end. Were you able to, I didn't find the dollar amount. Doug, can you see if we can track that down? It's not disclosed at this time. It's not disclosed. I don't think they need to, right? It's a private company, CrossFit. Does that mean they don't disclose it? I don't know if they, I don't think they have to. I don't think they have to. I think if you're public, you have to. Well, you know, if you're public, you have to. But if you're private, I don't think you need to do it at all. I still think it would be found out. There's no way that big of a deal goes down and people don't know. How much do you think? What do you think? Do you think it's in 100s? Dude, no. No. 100 million? 100 million? I mean, I don't know. I mean, they're flying private jets around. It's a big, it's a big brand. It's got a big, it's got a lot of weight behind it. Yeah. I, you know what? I don't even have a guess, dude, because I'm not educated on any of their, their company at all. Like, I don't, I know. I love reading like, the CrossFit's not one I read about at all. I'm not that interested. Well, they only post it in their own journal. Yeah. There's no other articles out there about them. Yeah. I don't know. It'd be curious. So where, where would, I don't, I can't even tell you where most of their money is made, the education, because it's not in the gyms. They get it. Well, I guess there is, because they get affiliate, they get affiliate money for the gyms. Well, what's the, what does that say? It's adherents have turned CrossFit into it. Okay. It says Colt, whose brand generates some 4 billion in annual revenue. Holy shit. And, well, that's what the brand generates. That doesn't necessarily mean. So CrossFit Incorporated rakes in perhaps a hundred million, but that's 2015. So I think when they say four billion, they're probably referring to how much all the gyms. Oh, yeah. That's not what they're, they're saying CrossFit Inc. My, and this is in 2015, raked in a hundred million. Well, it's gotta be from 2015 to now, they probably are double. Oh, I don't think that. I think that, I think that that's close to where, and we were, they were peeking. Yeah. You think, you think they've continued to climb from 2015 to now? Worldwide. Well, lots of things, the international boxes, and we're still rocking for them. So I don't know. Yeah, it's an interesting, I don't know, it's interesting. I wonder, but like right now, given everything that's going on, they lost one of their biggest sponsors ever. I wonder if he took, he just sold it, fire sale, you know, sweetheart deal. Give me this, and I'm out and you can take it over. Yeah. You know, it's still got some power behind it. Yeah. I mean, I, what would you, let me ask you guys a question, because we know we've talked about, you know, many times. Yeah. What we think CrossFit did well, what they do bad. If you took over CrossFit right now, what would be some of the stuff that you would do? Would you change anything? Or would you keep it as it, as it is and try to renegotiate the contracts? I wouldn't want it. Yeah. I've been waiting for this moment. I've been holding back. Sorry everybody, but it's true. Yeah. I'm not a big fan. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, my thing always, I've always liked the sport of it, right? So I think it's, I think it's cool. Like it's, if it's on TV and I'm clicking through, it always, it always pulls me in for at least a few minutes to watch, like to see some of the strength feats. I mean, I think it's really fascinating to watch what some of these athletes can do. I mean, it's their, their specimens, both the men and women are just amazing to watch the, what the feats that they can do. So there's definitely a market for that. I don't think that, I don't think that'll ever go away. I think it'll just become a, but more of a sport. I think it, I would gear it that way. The same way that we look at any other sport and the boxes really are like training centers, you know, and the, for people that are really serious about getting into the sport of it. And I would quit trying to market it like a, the, a fitness modality for overall, although that's the opposite of their vision. His vision was always to become the way everybody works. I would, I wonder what would happen if CrossFit took some of their money and then opened official CrossFit gyms. So, you know, you have all these affiliates, but then they'd have their own private, you know, gyms. And then in there, do kind of what we had talked about, which is, okay, here's your general fitness CrossFit programming, here's your gym. And then we have more, you know, more advanced classes for people who want to compete and just start to build it out kind of that way. Because do they even own, does the CrossFit company even own their own boxes? Or is it all? You're looking at me to give you answers. I'm all about the floor is lava. Like, let's just move every CrossFitter into that. Oh, what's that? Oh, dude, I want to show you that. It's like, what is that? Oh, it's just, it's kind of a funny thing. It's almost like, remember MXC, like that show where they were like going on all these obstacles. It was a Japanese show. It was really funny. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The one where they like run through the paper and then they try to knock them off and yeah, things spin. And so it's like, it's kind of clever. I mean, my kids are really into it right now. I could see us doing as a group, like four people have to kind of work their way around this room to find things, to unlock obstacles, to be able to get it across all the way to the other side. So it's like physically challenging, but also you're trying to like, you know, solve this riddle of like how to like pass this room. It's a clever concept. It's actually pretty entertaining. Dude, did you guys play that game when you were a kid? Totally. Yeah, I love that game. Yeah, yeah. We're like jumping from couch to couch. Yeah, the floor is lava. What a great, so I was surfing through Netflix yesterday and I came across it and I thought the same thing. I'd watch it with my kids. Did you kids enjoy it? Oh, they loved it. Yeah, yeah. That's the cool part for me. It's like, I could find things like they got into Ninja Warrior too. That stopped airing these days, but like, oh, that's not airing anymore. Well, I haven't, maybe the seasons are, you know, they haven't like re-upped the seasons, but yeah, we were really into that for a while and there's this gym and that's what got them into parkour. So I had them do in the parkour and everything at this local gymnastic gym. And man, they were like having such a great time. It's so fun. Courtney got to do it with them and everything. I was about to do it, but then COVID and all that shit. Yeah, I want a while here to see Doug's putting it on right now. So basically what they do from what I understand is they set up a room to look like a room in the house and then you have to jump from hanging from the chandelier or jump on the couch. They totally designed it. As a kid, how you would design it. It's all water, but like they have like spouts of lava, like red colored water that just like splashes you. This is what I imagined, by the way, when I was a kid. Oh, exactly. That's why it's done. That's why it's awesome. This is exactly what I... Well, here, you want to hear something crazy? I got some crazy news for you guys. Let's hear it. You guys all love this. Justin loves this kind of stuff. Okay. So the U.S. Army awards a company to buy $20 million worth of, ready for this, pocket-sized drones. Yeah, these are called the Black Hornet III personal reconnaissance systems. These drones weigh something. Are they armored? I don't know if they're armored. They got little guns on them. That's a shame too. Oh, no. Oh, man. No, they're very, very light. This is what it says, ready? So it's the size of a cell phone. So it's like this big. So this is the drone. It says here that they're extremely light and nearly silent and they can fly for up to 25 minutes. So you imagine them just launching 500 of them everywhere? I feel like I saw that was a Spider-Man movie. What's going to happen? Actually, that was on a... I don't know. It was a Mysterio or whatever the villain guy was, but he basically had all these drones that would collectively organize and then would show this kind of hologram. And so they would project the hologram and it made it look like some big whatever monstrous thing was attacking the city. And I was like, oh man, that's kind of an interesting idea. I thought I read in an article somewhere that there's a police department that's using it for patrolling. Google that for me, Doug. I could have sworn I came across. Well, so in Europe, I know this in Italy, they did this. So when they had the whole country on lockdown, they had a huge spike in COVID and there were a lot of deaths over there that cities were monitoring the people with drones. And then they put speakers on the drone so you could talk. Did you guys watch the videos of the Italian, some of these small town mayors yelling at the people? We're walking around through that. Oh, bro. You got to understand the context of the culture. They tended to yell at each other a lot, because I don't think a politician would get away with that shit here. But the stuff they were saying was like, if you don't go back inside, I'm going to kick your ass. Look, we did it in California. We did. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Look, California police used the drones to patrol coronavirus lockdown. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, we have drone wars pretty soon where private citizens are going to go up and try and take them out or whatever. What was that black? Wasn't there a black mirror episode where drones were like they would find somebody and then they would just definitely hit someone and detonate? Was that black mirror? Was that something else? That could have been. I think I know you're talking about it. It might have been a different movie. What was that, 1980, the Orwell 1984? 1984. If you want to read a book that sounds like what's happening. Explain it all. Then just read that book, 1984. And you're going to be like, oh, shit. It's all coming to fruition. Oh, really? Yeah. I mean, it talks about, you know, it kind of a dystopian situation where they start tearing down statues and burning books. And everybody's being monitored. Everybody's being monitored. Little by little, it becomes this crazy. We're allowing all this shit because we're just enraged about other things. Are you still following what's going on with what's her face? Who wrote the JK Rawlings, who wrote the hashtag and all that? Are you following that still? No. Yeah. Well, from what I read, so she did a whole statement. Apparently, she said something that offended the LGBTQ community. I forgot all the letters almost there. Yeah. Well, there's more, right? I think I held them all silent. You covered it. And she got hammered by the actors in Harry Potter. She got hammered by the public. She think she got support from other people. I read what she wrote. I thought it was fantastic. Yeah. I mean, I can understand what she's trying to communicate. I understand what she's trying to say. Like I said, it's a weird, it's one of those situations where you feel like, oh, what am I going to say? If I say the wrong thing, I'm going to, you know what I'm saying? Weren't people, weren't people burning her books and then they were threatening Hachette to not publish her next one that's coming out or something like that? I think the publisher was saying that they weren't going to. Oh, that's what it was. That was if I'm not mistaken. Oh, interesting. Yeah. So it's interesting. It's very, very interesting. You know, we should probably read her what she wrote so we could better represent kind of what she said. I read it. But you can, I know, but I forgot. Oh, yeah. You forgot after reading it. I know. Yeah. I've been reading it a lot lately. You can actually find it online. You can find what she wrote and kind of see for yourself and see if you agree with her standpoint or if you think that she was being, you know, super insensitive or whatever. Do you think so when you remember when you first read it? I thought she communicated pretty effectively what she was trying to say. You know, I didn't see what some people are saying necessarily. I could see how some people could maybe take offense to what she's saying. What I try to do when I hear an argument as I try to empathize and try to understand where people are coming from, even if I don't agree. And you know why it helps me not demonize the other person? Because here's what happens. The second you demonize the other person as being evil, as being inhuman, then you will no longer listen to anything that they say because they're evil. But the reality is most people are not. Most people are generally good. We all kind of want the same thing. We all want what's right for our kids. We want to be safe. We want to have everybody has buttons. You press a button and the response happens as a result. And so it's like, okay, trying to kind of step back and see where those buttons were that got pushed and what set these things off. It's interesting to me to kind of see where all that occurs and what kind of languages use it's really like. Arthur Brooks writes some really good articles about love your enemies. And one of the things he says is try to understand where they're coming from. Even if you don't agree, you know, rather than assuming they're crazy or evil, where are they coming? Even if you disagree, where are they coming from? Because it'll help you communicate and understand. Otherwise, we're just gonna, it's a lot like what, you know, when you're talking to your kids, it's like you want to find out, you know, what, what was sort of the thought process with certain things and why they think that way and who they're talking to. And so it's all that kind of stuff. I'm applying the same principles to talking to anybody else who has a difference of opinion. Well, let me ask you guys a question. Has this ever happened to you where your significant other or maybe you have a friend and they do or say something and you are like deeply offended or shocked or angry. But then because you have a history with them, you try to talk to them and you try to understand and it ends up turning out that they didn't mean what you thought or from where they're coming from, you could say, okay, I can kind of, and then you're, you're cool. Could you imagine if instead of that, you're like, that person's evil. And you never get to that point. You'll never get to the point. Well, not only that, but, you know, I had this conversation, our conversation might, when I went, when I talked to Connor last week, went down this rabbit hole. And, you know, I told him that if somebody does something or says something, not physically harming words, right, saying something to you and it hurts your feelings or it makes you angry and it rages you, that has nothing to do with them. That has ever, it's a reflection of yourself. And that's really fucking hard for people to swallow. It's your feeling. It's my feelings. You have no, you have no control of them. So you should be able to say the most evil, awful things to me. And I should be able to control that. And if I can't, that is a direct reflection of something going on inside of me, that I would allow your whatever, your actions to affect my emotions. I'm giving my power away. And so if there, if I ever catch myself in a moment where I'm going, I can't believe you said that. Like, you got to pull yourself out of that. Why am I giving this person so much power? Why am I giving them so much power to allow them to change my emotional state? That's me, man. And they're allowed to have a different opinion. Everybody has different opinions and it's not like evil. It's just like a matter of like where we're all coming from and what we're trying to understand. Like, I can have an opinion, you can have an opinion, let's talk about it and where you formed it. Well, sometimes opinions can be evil. I mean, to be clear, but I think what you're saying is generally, you know, tends to be true is you're right. What you're saying, Adam, is a very empowering statement. It's not a disempowering one. That's a very stoic philosophy, which is, you know, that it's like, you know how they say there's power and forgiveness, like where you, where you forgive someone, by the way, forgiving someone doesn't mean that you'll go back. Like let's say you have a friend or you had a boyfriend or girlfriend that did something to cheat it on you. It doesn't mean you agree with them. It doesn't mean you're going to get back with them, but forgiving them means you've given up, you, you, you take back the power because actively hating them, actively being angry and it only hurts you. Yeah. I know people like this. I have people like this in my family where they, you know, and this is part of the old school Sicilian culture. They will hold a grudge for decades. You know, I have family members that didn't talk to, don't talk to other family members. Haven't talked to them since like 1983 over one thing. So frustrating. I have family members like that too. Yeah. And it's like, you're just, that's, you're hurting yourself, you know? And okay, fine. You don't need to talk to them, but you can, they're still harboring this anger and this hatred. And it's like, what's that doing for you besides poisoning you? Yeah. It's cancerous. Besides doing that. Yeah. Anyways, talk about, let's talk about this again. Let's talk about health and fitness. Cool. Yeah. Hey, another study came out that shows that your gut bacteria really can strongly influence your cravings. They're showing more and more studies that how your, that cause, and this is a weird concept to understand, but you're, we've talked about this before, you have more bacteria cells in and on your body than you actually have human cells. And if you think that bacteria, just like any living thing is always trying to, and they're influencing you. Yes. If they're always trying to maintain their survival, right? Bacteria might not be intelligent, but they've evolved to try to live. So let's say you have bacteria that thrive off of sugar, lots of sugar, then they have evolved to, to have mechanisms to influence their host to crave sugar. So your gut bacteria may actually be influencing you to eat certain things, among other things. Well, don't, don't you believe this is connected? Remember when I shared, I think this was back when I was competing, or maybe I shared it afterwards about when I was, how I did a show where I did like no bars, no shakes, all whole foods. And then I did, then I did shows where I like integrated bars and things like that. And I always remembered like when I cut out like protein bars for a long period of time. And then I reintroduced them. The first like couple were like, I didn't even like them. But then after about two or three of them, all of a sudden I went from not liking them to, okay, they taste good. And then craving them. And then like wanting two or three of them in a day. I wonder if that is, is similar to that. Like that has something to do with why that happens. It's probably part of it. I would assume. It was, it was, it was weird to me to feel that way to go, Oh, I thought I love these bars, but because I had taken them out of my, out of my diet for so long, my body got used to not having it. Then I introduced them again. And I'm like, and I remember, I always remember like getting like, Oh, this must be a bad box. Or this was, this is stale or older or something. And now it's not that. It's just that I hadn't had them in a while. It wasn't used to them after I had two or three of them again. Then all of a sudden I found myself craving them wanting two, three in a day. Well, if you've ever gone on a stint of eating, you know, quote unquote unhealthy food, you ever notice how the more you have, the more you want. And the more you have, and the more you want to kind of self, you know, starts to feed itself. I think we've all, you know, kind of experienced that where we start to crave more and more from really weird. And you know, they, there are bacteria that will influence, we know this in animals and in some creatures, like there's a, there's a, there's a parasitic host that will infect an insect and it'll, it'll take, almost take over its mind, make the insect, crawl to the top of a tree and present itself to be eaten by a bird. Cross hoppers and slugs. Yeah. So that the bird then gets the parasite. Have you seen the one of the snails where it like, basically the parasite makes its way up into its eyes and it like starts doing all these weird signals with its eyes to get birds to get the birds to come down to eat. So nature is, is crazy. Yeah. There's one, there's another one that if a mouse or rodent gets infected with it, it makes the mouse or rodent be attracted to the smell of like cat urine. Yes. Like it's, like it's making the host get itself eaten so that it can move. So it gets closer and closer to where the cat just like can murder it. How crazy is that? Isn't that gross? I don't know if it's crazy that that happens or that we actually have the ability to, to figure that out. Right. That to me is crazy that we have the science to, to piece that together. It's so insane. Hey, have we talked about the, the, the wait list on ButcherBox? Did we mention this already, Doug? Yeah. The last episode we brought or one of the last episodes we brought it up that they, I mean, first of all, they, we weren't advertising for a while from them, not because they're no longer a sponsor, but just because they couldn't take any more orders. Too popular, too much demand. Oh yeah. So it was, they, but they are now opening up and they're taking people off the wait list. So if you're somebody who maybe tried a month or two ago when COVID first hit, like probably everybody did and you're interested in it, now's the time to do it. And, you know, even if you don't, you can't get it right away, get on the wait list because it is, it's becoming that high of demand to be able to get on there. And it's, I tell you what, I was so much more convenient. I cook all, did I tell you guys about, so Katrina did the, the ribs? Yeah, you said in the, in the, whatever, in the Instant Pot. Yeah. Holy smoke. So I ordered some because Jessica wants to do the same thing. Oh, she listened to the episode. It was so good. And I can't leave off. I mean, cook the ribs like in 30 minutes, 30 or 45 minutes. Yeah. Wow. And so have you guys, have you tried the tri-tip from ButcherBox? I haven't tried the tri-tip yet, no. That's my favorite. Rib-eye was the one I'm usually doing. No, no, no. Tri-tip's my favorite now. Sweet. Yeah. It's one of my, and so have you guys noticed this? I've done this now several times where, and typically it's if we eat a lot of meat and we run out of our ButcherBox order, so I have to wait like a week or two before I get a new one. Have you guys noticed a difference when you eat, like, because I eat a lot of meat typically. I mean, I'll eat red meat most times, most days once, sometimes twice a day, maybe even three times a day if I'm really pushing it or whatever. Have you noticed a difference when you eat grain-fed versus grass-fed in terms of how you feel? Yeah. I mean, like one, being a little bit more sluggish is what you're kind of looting to. Yeah. I have felt that and like, I've been, felt like my energy's a bit better. Yes. Because I'll do like, there'll be a week or two or let's say we ate, let's say we had family over, so we ended up going through our ButcherBox order, then we'll have to go to Safeway or whatever and get the normal, you know, grain-fed stuff, which I love the taste of it of course, but we get a bunch of grain-fed meat. Then I'll eat that for a week or two and I'm starting to notice a pretty clear difference in my, how I feel in my gut health. I only notice it when I go, like, so this, how I do it is, I try and if I'm at home cooking, I try and always do my ButcherBox. I always try and do the grass-fed, but when I go out to a restaurant, that's kind of like, when I say, obviously, I'm not going to be that picky where it's like, oh, I won't eat here unless it's fucking grass-fed. I'm definitely not like this, especially since I do enjoy grain-fed steak every now and then. The steak is much- There are more restaurants out there offering it, which is interesting. They do, there are more, but I'm not that picky where, and that's the way I look at it is like, oh, every once in a while, I'll enjoy a nice grain-fed steak. And when I do it just intermittently like that, it doesn't bother me, but for some reason, like, and this was a while back when we weren't getting the ButcherBox more regularly, is I would go and do what you just said, is we get an order, a bunch of Safeway steaks, and I find if I have two or three meals on that, that's when I really notice it. I just feel like I'm a little lethargic. I feel like it doesn't digest as quickly and as easily. Okay, so it's not just me then? Yeah, yeah, I noticed that. I absolutely do. Really interesting. I didn't think it would have that, you know, that much of an effect, but I mean, apparently it does. Do you have a favorite, like, flavoring a rub or what do you call that, where you put it in the juices? Marinate? Marinate, thank you. I couldn't think of the word. I'm like, it's the juices. You have a favorite way to rub it? Tell them. Tell them your favorite way to rub it. Underhand. Underhand rub. Jessica does a very plain, clean, you know, she'll put a lot of salt on it, let it sit out, get to room temperature. Sometimes she'll add a little bit of powder garlic on it, but we like to, you know, there's that, what, that Santa Maria seasoning, which is pretty good too. That's good. But sometimes I like it just. That's great. I'll try to. Yeah, sometimes I like plain, just salt. Just salt and a good piece of meat. Yeah. To me, sometimes is the best. Yeah, I want you guys to try this one. It's like a coffee grounds with like a garlic and salt. Anything to get more caffeine, huh, Jessica? You call me out. Just call me out. It's fantastic. It's, I don't know what. You can marinate an acid or like, whatever. It just blends so well. Really? Yeah. So good. Trigger has a rub like that. Yeah. So you do coffee grounds with salt and everything else? Yeah. Yeah. Really? And garlic and a little bit of onion. Yeah. Really? Yeah. All right, I'll give that a shot. See how that is. Hey, I got the stamp of approval from a teenager on our style. Oh, well, speaking of our style and stamp of approval. Yeah, first of all, tell me who it is. Well, hold on a second. Verify this. I've had this happen now a couple of times. I've had one of my younger cousins who was 17, asked me where I got my sweats from and said that she really liked them and she liked it. You know, what company is that? Yeah. And then my son said the same thing and he wants Viori sweats now. So I got the stamp of a, you know, younger stamp of approval because apparently they know what's cool. The cool kids like it. So speaking of approval and I haven't had a chance to tell you guys this. So since you brought that up, I thought you were going this direction. We reached out, I think a month or so ago. So our marketing team has been trying to get, you know, Sal, Justin and I to dress better for quite some time and they're always harping us about being, you know, we record our podcast. Like, I don't give a shit about how I'm dressing up. Actually, you could watch on, if you're watching on Viori, sure. If you're watching on YouTube right now, because we record all these podcasts, you know exactly what I'm talking about. You can see right now. So anyways, but for all of our marketing material that goes out for Maps Fitness products, you know, we're trying to brand that like a separate company. They're always telling us that we need to have this uniform. And I just, and I've been fighting them forever because they want to dress us. And I just, I don't like that. I want to dress myself. I've dressed myself my whole life. I feel like I've done a decent job. Especially from people who don't have any style. Yes, exactly. Especially from the worst. Especially from my marketing team who I don't, I see the way they dress every day and I am not interested in them dressing me. So I finally cave. They're still wearing like big dollar shirts. I said, okay, here's the deal. I'm going to try and see if I can work out a deal with Viori where they will actually brand some of their, some of their joggers, the stuff that we already wear and we love their shirts. Put mine pump on it. And put mine pump on it. And that's approved. It's done. So we're going to have, we're going to have branded apparel for ourselves. Yes. I'm okay with that. Yeah. Right. Because this is a cool brand. Like, I mean, it's verified. 100%. So we, yeah, so we, we make our marketing team happy. And then we still get to continue to wear our Viori swag, which we all like so much. And approved by teenagers, obviously. Good job, Adam. I'm so happy. I'm so happy we made you head of style of the company. It's really done a great job for us. I appreciate it. Thank God it was you would be sponsored by Skechers. Hey, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to lead anything I'm not good at. Skechers and Argoil socks. Don't put me in charge of style or organization. I'll fail every time. Oh, also, dude, the summer sale is going off. The biggest sale of the year. Massive. We never discount like this and maybe once a year most. And so this is a massive sale for us to discount all programs and bundles. So bundles are already massively discounted, but to discount them on top of that. So this is a huge sale. Well, we get a lot of messages from people saying that they're now in some places able to go work out in their gyms again. So people are like, oh my gosh, my gyms are open again. Can I, which program should I do? And little by little, these emails have been starting to pile up. So it's really, really good timing, I think, for this particular sale. Well, it is the biggest one that we've seen. In addition to that too, I know that we all worked on what last week or the week before piecing together modifications for all the programs. I know that will be coming down the pipeline. I don't know when that'll be released. Yes, I'm glad you mentioned that. So all the programs eventually are going to have modifications free for people who only have access to normally equipped home gyms. Dumbbells are just barbells. We got options. Dumbbells or dumbbells and barbells. You actually get two versions of a mod with each program. So let's say you enroll in a program like Maps Aesthetic. There are some machines and stuff in there because it's an advanced kind of bodybuilder program, but we're going to send mods out. So if you have a home gym or just dumbbells, you could still follow the programming as it's written with the replacements for that. But yeah, so bundles already are discounted typically around 30% off. So we've added an additional 25% off to that. And then the programs, individual programs are all 40% off. And I think there's two codes for each, right? So for the programs, it's summer program. And then for the bundles, the code is summer bundle. First question is from Ninja Master 166. This guy's cool. I can tell. One of Justin's friends. Yeah. My guy. I have heard some people say that it is bad to combine fats and carbs together because it can lead to insulin resistance and more fat gain. Is there any truth to this? Or is it better to just focus on eating healthy foods? So this is the opposite is true. Actually, this can be very, very true. So if what you're eating is too many calories, don't combine fats, proteins apart. Don't have anything at all. It's really too much of that. So you know what's funny about this is I've heard people say this. That you know, don't combine this and that and the other. The only long-term health practices that really communicate this are Ayurvedic medicine. Sometimes they'll communicate not combining certain foods. Chinese medicine will do the same thing. Now they don't say fat gain or insulin resistance. They use their terminology, which you know, there's there, I forgot what they use in Ayurvedic medicine. I can't remember the names of them. There's like different forms of energy. I can't remember what they were. You know, Chinese medicine, they'll talk about yin and yang in the body. So I'm sure there's some truth to combinations in regards to energy levels and digestion in particular. But this is a very individual thing. This is not a general statement that those forms of medicines tend to make. Well, is it more like hot, cold, like, you know, in terms of spices and like what? Yeah, I don't want to represent them because I don't know them well enough. But I have heard them say, you know, and I know this because I've worked with them, not personally, but I've worked with them with clients where a client will seek out alternative medicine. Then they'll come to me and say, oh, my practitioner said to not eat, you know, these foods or combine these foods. And, you know, these are these are long traditions. So I'm sure there's some truth to what they're saying. But not this, this, this I don't, I don't necessarily see. Well, not only that, but this is the opposite. It's the opposite of this is true. If you combine a carbohydrate with a fat, you actually lower the glycemic index on the, on the carbohydrate. Yeah, that's true. So like sugar less. Yes, it's like sugar less. So the opposite is true. Eating carbohydrate all by itself will actually will spike your blood sugar level faster than if you actually pair it with a fat or a protein. Yeah. So that's like, and I remember playing with this, like when we, when I was trying to like time, like a pump or time, like the way I looked on stage, you know, if I just had like a carb by itself, I would fill up really quick, but then I would flatten back out really, really quick also. And by me actually eating it or parents, I told you guys, like I pieced together like the chicken, the avocado, rice was like this. And if I pulled the avocado out of it, as crazy as it changed the way I would look on stage. Your muscles would look less full. Yeah, they would, they wouldn't, what they would do is it would, it would, they would get filled up, but then they would deflate really quick. Interesting. Where when I would add a fat into the meal, it would actually fill up slower, but they would maintain that for a little bit longer and then come back down. So it made it easier for me to time a look on stage. Now that, for me, that's what that's for. It had nothing to do with me gaining body fat or not, like, but that's, I would manipulate adding fats with carbohydrates to slow down the digestive process so it would fill, fill me in at a slower rate instead of really fast and then leave really fast. Yeah, on the list of priorities, this is, Yeah, this is splitting hairs. Yeah, this is like somewhere near number 2000, I would say. I wouldn't worry too much about this. You know what you should pay attention to? 1.977. Yeah, you should pay attention to combining foods and your digestion. Now I've heard this from people where they'll say, if I combine these kinds of foods, I start to get digestive issues. You should pay attention to that, but that's very individual. That's typically nothing general that you can apply. Yeah, that's more like you combining two foods that you might be slightly intolerant to. Right, and now you've got a bigger, and now you've caused a bigger problem. Yeah, figure out which one it was, and yeah, do your homework. So I noticed this with like, if I go have like a cheeseburger, I noticed that the combination of the cheese and the gluten together is like the perfect storm for me to be bloated and digestive issues afterwards. If I get rid of the bun, and I have just like a burger and cheese, I'm okay. If I just have a hamburger, I'm not as bad. So it's the combination of me doing the gluten and the dairy in one meal that just hammer, and then you throw in some fries too, a bunch of carbs and extra calories. It's just like the perfect storm for me to feel absolutely bloated and terrible afterwards. But that's individual. That's me, right? I know that my body is affected that way by those foods, and my body seems to handle them by themselves in smaller doses. I had it, you know, last night, I was, by the way, I had the new bowl of peanut butter magic spoon. I know it's not a commercial for them today, but by the way, that was phenomenal. And I had it with whole milk, and I normally don't do that, but just whole milk by itself doesn't really bother me that much. But if I have whole milk and then I also have cheese later on, and then I have ice cream or something, it's like, then it's just too much. Is that why you were blasting this earlier before the podcast started? Oh yeah. I'll call you out on that. You're doing some trumpet. Trumpet music. Look, don't do that. Katrina still doesn't think I can do that. Here, Katrina, he farts all the time. I think he saves it for us because he won't fart around. We'll start videoing it. There's two main things you could do to fight or to prevent insulin resistance. The two biggest things you can do are not overeat. And then here's the second one, build muscle. Muscle is incredibly protective in this particular case because muscle helps soak up and absorb glycogen and it helps control blood sugar. People with more muscle are far less likely to have insulin resistance than people with less muscle. So those two things are the things you should focus on and not really food combinations. Next question is from M. Perks. Are trigger sessions useful during a cut? Oh, trigger sessions are useful. Just okay. Almost anything. You should lift weights and try to build muscle when you're cutting or when you're bulking. Now why, okay, obviously for bulking you want to try and build muscle because that's part of the goal. But why should you try to build muscle when you're trying to cut? Muscle preservation. Yes, because cutting typically results in or can result in the body reducing muscle to try to slow its own metabolism down. This is one of the biggest pitfalls to dieting or cutting is you end up with a slower metabolism than you went in with and now maintaining it is so difficult. So real quick trigger sessions just for people who don't know what those are. A trigger session is a very light, low intensity, short, 10 minute, you know, session where you're pumping the muscle maybe two or three times a day. On days you're not doing a normal workout. These are on off days. Now by themselves they don't really build a ton of muscle but when you add them to your normal workouts it's like a little bit of a turbo charger. So yeah during a cut, oh my gosh trigger sessions are extremely important. I actually found them even more beneficial during this time. So when I was getting ready for shows I was that's the most I ever was doing trigger sessions when I was competing like I was constantly doing that and I felt that that was one of the game changers for me of holding on to as much that's one of the hardest things one of the hardest things to do is to cut, you know, reduce your calories increase movement, add cardio and then also think you're going to hang on to all that muscle that you've worked so hard to build and obviously when you're at the competitive level it's very important that you maintain that otherwise why are you putting all this work in to build that muscle in the off season so I really felt that that contributed and I had shows where I didn't and I had shows I did and I felt when I was really consistent with it I held on to the most muscle when I was cutting and it's really hard to do that it's really hard to keep your muscle one of the best things you do is constantly being sending a signal that your body needs it and that's what the trigger session is without all the extra damage right you're just sending that signal of hey we need this we need this to stay around and we're using it a lot we're using it a lot that's kind of what you're doing it's just a low level version yeah it's almost therapeutic too in its own right in terms of feeling like I'm recovering as well so I tend to focus on it a lot more if I'm in a cut just mainly because it's something that I'm trying to maintain this momentum and this energy of adding extra movement and extra calorie expenditure so that's something I'm paying attention to my fit bit my step count all that stuff but I'm also just trying to make sure my muscles are getting that stimulus throughout this whole thing so I don't yeah I don't lose my muscle that's another thing that I really loved about it was when I'm in a cut I'm low calorie for long periods of time and I get tired I don't want to do anything it's an energizer it is a great energizer I mean that was one of the things that I really also enjoy just to add a benefit that I wasn't thinking about when I started to incorporate them is you know I'd be tired from a day already and I've been I sat down on the couch for a while and I don't really want to move and I'm like oh I'm supposed to do a trigger session and you know sometime in the next hour or two and I just pop up and that was back when I used to just keep it on my my door my closet door near my living room and I'd hop up just do a little 10 10 12 minute you know trigger session and all of a sudden I'd be re-energized I'd be now motivated to move around go for a walk or do something because I got up and did that so that was and then that just adds to your cut you know burning more calories you're moving more active recovery portion of it so I actually find the most benefit during a cut than in a year instead of doing 30 minutes of stationary cardio or it's not stationary but you know steady state cardio do three 10 minute trigger sessions throughout the day it's going to actually do a better job at burning body fat and preserving muscle trigger sessions are found in maps anabolic by the way if people are looking for the program that has that specific technique and also that program and all of our programs are actually 40% off right now I want to make sure I mentioned that on the show 40% off all of them but you have to use the code summer programs so you can get any individual program for well the bundles are also 25% bundles are 25 which are already discounted this this is the biggest sale we've ran all year that's it totally and that code is summer bundle so if you want to get 25% off the already discounted bundle use that code next question is from J.J. Boogie 64 in what ways have you or do you subliminally mold your children? What does that mean subliminally? Oh I don't hypnotize it No I don't I mean because I totally do this yeah so I mean like I've been telling I think I've shared it on the podcast already like the whole basketball thing just it's always on in the background yeah yeah and so I think that's what it means by subliminally I'm not like forcing my son to watch it it's just playing in the background that's how you throw that's how you throw away the garbage I did that with Star Wars and with music all the time like uh like I had mentioned this I found those um those like nursery kind of like chimes of ACDC, Metallica and the lullabies yeah the lullabies and like so and and that sort of groomed them into then I started to buy them CDs of like all these like rock bands that are just like staples you have to you know have this in your collection of like lead zeppelins and like all these bands so yeah I do that all the time that's so funny have you so there was a this reminded me of a video a couple of videos I've seen of something similar where there's like a little little baby that won't eat so the the mom or dad is like trying to give their kid like mashed vegetables or something the kids like yeah so then they take a stuffy or a doll and they like slap the doll a bunch of times and it be oh they pretend to feed the doll the doll says no then they beat the doll then they go give the food to the kid and the kid eats them I'll say oh my god it's like an interrogation yeah that's nice it's so because I'll go to they'll do it to the doll the doll goes no just like the kid did and then they'll hit the doll they set the doll on fire and they give the food to the kid the kid eats it all I'll eat the broccoli mom when I think of this in terms of subliminal I think of just my own actions you know when I especially when I'm around my kids I try to be aware of how I treat my wife in front of them I try to be aware of how I react if I if I if I'm angry if I'm happy if I if we're driving and let's say we drive by some like a homeless encampment like I try to be aware of what I'm going to say because I you know I want empathetic loving you know I want my kids to grow up to be good people so okay what am I going to say as we drive by this to show them that this is the this is how you should be around these kinds of things and so that's that's what I try to think of I mean I know one time I lost my temper this is when when when my kids were young and this is that story when the kid threw the basketball at my car while I was driving by and I got so mad and I pulled back and I turned around the kid the kid and his friends ran inside the house and I pulled their basketball hoop down and threw you know threw it or whatever and then I remember as I was leaving my son you know had a conversation with him he was real young and he's like why'd you do that you know that was worse I remember thinking to myself like what a bad example I just gave my kids of how you should act in a situation like that I think that's the most important thing there's it's even more subtle I do things like so right now Katrina and I we made a pack before we even had Max like the things that we wanted to be careful of our own behaviors and the phone was a big thing for me because that's a newer thing right like I didn't have that 20 years ago where I'd be on a cell phone all the time where I'm literally on a cell phone all the time and it is it's a it's a real temptation for me to want to grab it for a lot of reason and it's very easy for me to justify you know we're in the middle of building a business that we all love and are passionate about it and we enjoy and like so yeah I always want to check emails and respond back to people and and to do those things because I do I I really enjoy it and it's also benefiting the company building right so it's really tough for me to shut that down but I have to make a point to do that because I do not want my son to get used to seeing his father staring at his screen because that becomes normal if that's a tough one man it is a tough one but Katrina because Katrina and I both have made a such a great pack about it that if either partner does it we we always like little subtle comment you know like oh daddy's on his phone after five right now you know like and then like right away like if I get like phone I drop it like it's hot lava you know right away because I'm like that's something that's important to me and I do the same thing to her you know she's get stuff where she's communicating maybe with family about some weekend thing we're about to do and but if we're engaging with him and he's sitting in front of us that's like for us that's like a big no no and you know I know we're not a hundred percent perfect and we want ever but the fact that I think that we were we're conscious of it and we were making an effort I hope makes a difference for when that becomes something that he's interested in that he doesn't connect like oh mommy and daddy are always on their phone that's the challenge of now you know when we were kids it was processed foods which now we're seeing the ramifications the challenge of now is electronics and I see a clear difference in my kids when I when I when I monitor it versus when I don't they're totally different people so I think that's a good thing I've tried to yeah address this by starting to really model of being outside more and doing things and building things and being active and climbing and walking and hiking all that kind of stuff and like you know just making that opportunity there and available so that they you know they're just in that environment more than I am in the house and then there's nothing but electronics just because it's it is so hard it's so hard to address that when everybody's like sitting down you just get like drawn to it and you want to know well well somebody like I'm important I got emails I got things and then the like well we're important we got our friends that want to talk to us online dad you know I'm like yeah you're right like what am I doing so yesterday I took the kids and I got home and I said hey we're gonna go to the park and I got a bunch of pushback we don't want to go to the park it's so different from when we were kids and my daughter I don't want to go it's hot I don't want to do this I don't want to do that and so I at first I feel like a jerk for forcing them and I also feel resentful like fine I'm not gonna do anything with you it's not you know what I'm gonna do it they're gonna come with me whether they like it or not so I took them and it took a good no joke 15 to 30 minutes before them to even loosen up it's like decompressing and then we had fun yeah always it takes like 15 to 30 first they complain they don't want to do it but about 15 to 30 minutes later we're throwing the frisbee we're playing on them yeah so next question is from D-Bear27 what's the biggest lesson you guys learned from your father's so that's a good one another father question you know I was with my my dad and my parents actually ate over last night and I always I consciously try to do this in front of my kids but I asked my father about what it was like when he grew up because I think context is really important and I've said I said this to Jessica I said I think the children of immigrants have an advantage sometimes because they have the advantage of context I you know which I had I had the advantage of context because my father he was very in comparison to me very poor far less opportunities left school at the age of nine because his family literally needed a nine-year-old to work in order to provide money you know for the family and so I have him tell these stories to provide that context for my you know for my kids so that they my kids can realize what they have in front of them and what they can do with what they have in front rather than taking things for granted so my dad taught me a lot of lessons he was always there for his family so we had dinner together every single night he he worked his butt off never complained my dad must have worked seven days a week for years or decades he you know seven days a week but he came home four or five o'clock and we would all have dinner together we also planned trips even when you know you know he was supporting a family of six in you know in the bay area he was able to provide us with the middle class you know lifestyle but it didn't mean we couldn't afford expensive vacations so we do inexpensive things we'd go camping or we'd go you know somewhere nearby that we could drive to but I never noticed that it was you know I always I always saw that it was a good time and he was super involved but the biggest lesson I learned from my dad was that lesson of context that he he under you know I understood what I had because I knew what it was like for him growing up and I saw his attitude about things I saw that he always took personal responsibility he never complained about working hard he always did it he always you know was family was very important to him he talked about what it was like growing up when he grew up in Sicily and so that context I think is what has kept me grounded because it's really easy to take things for granted when you have a lot of stuff around you it's really easy for you to start to expect things to happen so I think that's one of the better lessons that I got yeah I think I mean the main thing that I can think of immediately is just the the integrity of of my father and how it's just impenetrable he he strongly has beliefs and moral values that are super consistent and is is willing to still be friends and have conversations with people that completely don't abide by these standards he has for himself and his family but stays very consistent to his belief system and I mean that was a big thing for me to just because I tested it all the time as a kid and I was trying to poke holes in it and and he never varied from it and I mean I I I was that kid that was always trying to push the limits of well I don't agree with you I can have tattoos you know I'm not going to hell or you know whatever it was at the at the time that I found you know I had issues with because I was I was that kid that was searching like well why why do you know you believe this why do you think that way and he was just always very thoughtful in his response and very consistent with his belief system and so to this day like that's I tried my best to be like that and to treat people the way he's treated people to where he stays calm even in the midst of these arguments and you know a lot of too I was shielded a lot from a lot of really like like we were poor in certain instances that like I didn't even realize we were poor you know like we have only stories of like being down and out and like you said like going camping like dude there's always things we were doing but they're on a very low budget but I didn't know our financial situation I didn't know you know the turmoil amidst the family that was like really negative at the time like it was just it wasn't something I needed to dwell on as a kid and he didn't bring that that wasn't even a discussion so I find these things outweigh later as an adult why like all these things were happening and so anyway that's just some things that I reflect on that I was very thankful that you know he handled it the way he did but did you have a horse but I didn't have a horse I didn't have a horse yeah I wish I had a horse that would have been money overrated you dinners are way cooler just galloped anywhere electricity is way cooler could have fed him some hay you know by the bay so well I guess I guess what I learned from mine is to be there right so my dad took his life when I was seven years old so it wasn't obviously around and that's also why I waited so long to have Maximus is because I also because of how we grew up I was extremely motivated to to have things to have success financial success and to have security there and be able to provide for my family and not have to worry about that and I was really nervous in my 20s if I were to ever consider having a kid that young that I hadn't reached that point and I had already learned at a pretty young age what it was going to take to make really good money like anybody that I had talked to that had mentored me or that was very successful literally dedicated a lot of most of their life to trying to become financial successful I mean just the amount of work that it took and so I had this really you know crazy challenge or you know thing that I wrestled with in my brain is okay yeah I do believe I want to have a son one day and I do want to make sure that I'm every bit there for him because I didn't have a father figure really in my life and so I want to experience all that and I definitely don't want to have a kid during the time but then I had this other thing where I was like man I really really want to be successful and I know that it takes you know long hours and sacrifice and constantly being buried into whatever this career is and so I wrestled with that for a very long time and feel very blessed that you know have found what we have found now and built what we've built because it has created this ability for me to not miss out on anything that max is going through and I'm very cognizant of every milestone and every moment that I can be a part of because I know I didn't get that so you know it's a it's a sad lesson because I didn't have it but it's I'm also grateful for that because it's it's that it's on the top of mine for me all the time it's not like you know I know that some I'm sure there's a lot of fathers out there that you know look at providing for their kids is like hey I'm I'm being a great dad I'm providing and I think that you are a great dad if you're providing for your family but I also think there's another part that is really really important on how you mold and raise raise your kid and being a part of their family and I'm I feel blessed that I'm now in a position where I can do both but I'm constantly thinking about all the things that I didn't get to do all the things that I I didn't have or missed out on by not having a father figure and that I don't ever I feel like I have an opportunity to live relive all that what I missed through my son and so I feel like I'm not going to miss out on that because I'm very aware that I didn't get it so I'm very determined to make sure that I'm a part of all of it cool very cool look Mind Pump is recorded on video as well as audio you can check us out on YouTube it's Mind Pump podcast also we have a lot of free guides designed to help you with your fitness goals you can find all of these guides at mindpumpfree.com and then finally if you want to find us on social media you can find Justin at Mind Pump Justin on Instagram you can find me at Mind Pump Sal and Adam at Mind Pump Adam