那么 mwy anonwyr cyntaf, David, yw'n ddim o'n ymweld yn yr Hedory Woginswyr, ac mae'n gweithio bod yn ddlivellio. Mae'n gweithio ar y dyfynol ar gyfer i gynnwys iawn, ac mae'n lŵn yn ymddi'n ymweld! Mae'n rhai cyntaf arnyntio ar hyn, a'ch hyn, mae'n gwirionedd yr hyn, a'n ganwellt i chi fod yn ddefnyddio ryddig, mae'n meddwl iddyn nhw i'r fatho aquíad hyn o'w yn dweud? Mae'n gweithio... Mae'n meddwl gyda'r lle... Ac oddo dwi'n gwneud bod ni'n ddim'n d Safari-tyodol am tŷ a ddim ddim ni'n ddigon yn y blynyddu. Ond adnewch gennym, dwi'n deull y cyfrifio, bo ni'n golygu am ddod y cyfrifio, roeddwn i'n gorfod o 15. Dw i'n mig ddweud y maesur. Rwych mewn cyrfor yn ei bodened i chi oherwydd flwyddyn bwysigol, ac mae'n ro production ar Ffwrdd Rhunodol Cymru. I played a whole year of league football with rheumatoid arts writers. That's a whole story in itself. But what that did is it developed in you. Cos all these things are within us and experience brings them out. And if you don't have experience often they don't come out. So I have this phrase, life tends to give us our greatest gifts brilliantly disguised as our worst nightmares. Because often our worst nightmare will bring things out of us that wouldn't otherwise happen. This is why if you bring your kids up and you protect them from everything, you're doing them no favours. Because you're not developing strong people who will be able to deal with life. You're developing people who are always looking to be protected. Look at what we have now and once you have a generation or you have a population that wants to be protected and perceives itself all the time as being a victim, where does the point of power move? It moves to authority because people look to authority to protect them from what they fear or what they feel victimised by. So what we've been developing is a population of emotionally weak people who perceive themselves in terms of victims. When you have challenges in life and you meet them it brings something out of you. So for instance when my arthritis came and I didn't know what else I'm going to do at that time. I wanted to be a footballer. I wanted to be a footballer since I was a kid. Now I'm going to be joints as well and they're telling me I'm going to have to pack it in. Now I've thought I'm not packing it in. I want to give it a go. So I went to a club called Hereford United that was a league club then. I played the whole season with rheumatoid arthritis. Every morning when we were training and warming up for training on cold English mornings I was in agony. I would be limpin and what have you and the players would say what's wrong now Ikea. I would give a different excuse. I've got a bit of a pull. I've got a bit of a blister. But actually it was the same thing all the time. I played the season out and eventually it got so bad that I couldn't carry on. But it brought something out of me. This determination not to give up and not to give in. Then I decided because when I was a kid I was always reading newspapers. I was very interested in journalism. So I became a journalist and long story short I eventually became a television presenter. Very well known back then. Yeah I was. I was a national television presenter in those days. When I look at my life now you see and what I'm doing. My life before which appeared to be a series of random events. Same with you. You've had your challenges in life. What has it done? It's made you the person you are. You wouldn't be the person you are now without them. And people say well I regret that. I regret that. Well the thing to regret is if you don't learn from the experience. That's the regret but learning from the experience well you're just like a gift. What are you regretting for? So I went into journalism because I was very interested in that. And I eventually became this television presenter. And when you look at my life as I was saying all the different elements of it including going into journalism and seeing the media for what it is. Going into politics with the Green Party and seeing politics for what it is. Well I didn't know at the time but they were all giving me very very important understandings that will be useful later on. And then what happened is this is a kind of bizarre story but it happened. I was in the Green Party and I was still working for the BBC as a television presenter and both were leaving me completely cold. The BBC it's not a great organisation to work for if you care about the truth and you care about more than the official version of everything. And I also was looking at the Green Party politics from the inside and seeing that it was just like every other party. And so I was what do I do with my life now because I can't go on with either of these. And what happened was a very strange thing happened because in the early part of what would it be 1989 I started having this feeling that when I was in a room alone I wasn't alone. And it's like there was an atmosphere there, there's something there. And through 1989 this got more and more and more powerful to the point where in early 1990 I was working for the BBC and I was staying at a hotel called Kensington Hilton just down from the BBC headquarters. And I'm sitting on the side of the bed in this apparently empty room and there was such a sense of a presence there that I said into the room, you know, if there's something there would you please contact me because you'll drive me up the wall. A few days later I'm on the seafront with my son Gareth little boy then in ride where I live on the Isle of Wides and I go into this news agent shop where Gaz was looking at one of the books and I said to him come on Gaz we'll come and get some lunch in the town and as I said it it was like the atmosphere changed. Like the energetic field around me changed and all I heard it wasn't it wasn't a voice it was a very strong thought for me. It said go and look at the books on the far side and I'm standing there thinking, you know, did I shut yourself. So, yeah. That basically what the. So I start walking across to the books in a days thinking what is happening. And I knew this book shop and the books it sold were for you know the tourists that come to the Isle of Wides. They were basically Mills and Boone and and and you know perfectly form English roses and having relationships with perfectly form you know uniform soldiers and all this stuff. So I'm thinking what am I going over here for but right in the middle of these books was one called mind to mind by a woman called Betty Shine. A picture was on the front it was different to the other so I picked it up and I turn it over and I read the blurb and she was a psychic. An English psychic and she was telling her life story so I bought the book. Read it in 24 hours found it very interesting contacted up. Because I wanted to go and see if she would pick up what the hell was happening around me for the last year. And so I went I told her nothing. What I told her was because she did this hands on healing as well which is just an exchange of energy. You know, it's not mumbo jumbo. It's an exchange of energy. Ricky. Yes, it's just an exchange of energy. That's all it is. But anyway, I told her that because I said I've got arthritis. Maybe it will help because I didn't want to give anything away was happening to me. So I'm sitting on this bench. This medical type bench in her front room and you know chatting away and she's doing the whole hands on healing just next to my left knee. And suddenly the atmosphere changed again. And I felt like a spider's web on my face. Now what hit me was in her book. She said when other levels of reality are trying to lock into you, you sometimes feel like a spider's web on your face. Well, I know what that was now. It's electromagnetic energy. You know when you're in a football crowd of great emotional excitement, you feel like a charge of energy. The hair stands up on your neck, you know. That's their electromagnetic fields. So that's what I was feeling, but it did feel like a spider's web on my face. And I said nothing to Betty, but I'm thinking what the hell. And then about 10 or 15 seconds later, she reels her head back and she said, my God, this is powerful. I've got to close my eyes for this one. And me bombs for going further down there. What have you got yourself into here, Ike? And she starts telling me in March 1990 that I'm going to go out on a world stage and reveal great secrets. I would face enormous opposition, but they, whatever that is, would always be there to protect me. And that there was a shadow over the world and there was a story that needed to be told that humanity was going to go through a phase of waking up and coming out of basically its coma, which is programming, and that I was going to go out and do that. One man cannot change the world, but one man can communicate the message that can change the world was one of the things she said. And I'm sitting there. I'm a television presenter for the BBC. I'm a national spokesman for the Green Party. And I'm thinking, what are you talking about? And so I then leave her and get on a train. She lived near Hassex in Sussex or in Hassex actually. And then I drove up or went up on the train to present a television programme. But from that moment on, one of the things that was said that she said, because she said, the first thing she said, she had no idea about this interaction in the Kensington Hilton, she's saying that they're telling me they know you wanted them to contact you but the time wasn't right and now you've been brought here to be contacted. I said, they're saying that you're going to be led to knowledge and at other times knowledge will be put into your mind. All right. Okay. So anyway, after that. See at that time, David, did you think she was maybe crazy? Because you don't understand that. I don't book because when you speak out about stuff like that, people go, well, he's maybe crazy. But again, it's judging people and everybody's in their own different paths. What I've been like all my life is I've never dismissed things that I can't know absolutely are not true. I have this policy. I put things on the back burner and I see what comes. And if more information comes to support it, more information comes to support it, there comes a point where there's so much information supporting that that it crosses the line. And you start to say, okay, I accept this is what's happening. But I don't just dismiss things and never have on the basis that they're different. Just being the way I've always been. Was that the start of your journey and going to less women and everything? Like awakening us, but it's awakening. Yes, it was. And one of the things was that it was going to be tough. And so when I left that, left her house and got on with your life very, very quickly, synchronicity coincidences started to occur where I'd meet people come across information, come across books, come across documents, whatever that was starting to like hand me puzzle pieces. And I started to realise, is it built up and it built up and it built up that actually the world was not like I thought it was. Well, not like I thought it was. I didn't really have a view on that. Do you think it was just brainwashed it and didn't you understand? I never did believe that politicians around the world always felt there was something else, but you didn't even know what it was. Now I was beginning to understand what works and how it works. And another thing that happened is that I would get just a knowing that this is how I think this is what's going on here. And then what would follow would be names, dates, places, hard factual information that would support that view, which kind of connects with we will put knowledge into his mind. And this has gone on now for 30 years and it's gone through different, different phases of information. And it's taken me down an extraordinary road of uncovering the world as it is behind the facade of what we're told it is. And of course, it's taken me into realms of enormous ridicule and enormous abuse. But we come back to the greatest gift often that you ever given is your worst nightmare or what appears to be. So if we go back to the Wogan show, because what happened eventually is I went on the Wogan show and talked about what was happening to me. And at that time, I was right in that period of the Wogan shows period of about three months. I was going through an enormous transformation of perception that I didn't understand. No, because this is what happened just very, very, very briefly is that I suddenly got this feeling I needed to go to Peru. I didn't know why I'd never been there. I watched him play in the World Cup a few times, but I didn't know anything about it. A long story short, I ended up in Peru and a series of enormously amazing things happened to me. And it culminated at a place called Ciustani, which is near a place called Puno near Lake Titicaca, highest navigable lake in the world, they say, about 13,000 feet. And I ended up in a series of synchronicities again at this so-called Inca site called Ciustani, which is all Inca ruins on a hill and there's a lake and mountains right out in the middle of nowhere. And I went and I looked around it and then I'd hired this taxi and this guide came with me. And we're driving away from Ciustani and I'm just daydreaming, which I do all the time. Daydreaming out the window, sort of mind wandering. And I'm looking at this hill as we're coming towards it. And as I looked at this hill, all I could hear in my head was come to me, come to me, come to me. You know, and I'm thinking, you know, I was introducing, I was introducing the snooker not long ago, actually. And now this frickin' hill's talking to me. It's like, it's what's going on. Steve Davis, Jimmy White, all is forgiven. And so I asked the guy to stop. I said, I won't be a minute, I'm going up that hill. And I walked up the hill and I didn't know where I was going or why. And there's all these kind of stones. It's kind of a circle like of stones. And I walked into the middle and it's beautiful and there's not a cloud in the sky. It's a pure blue Peruvian sky, piercing sun, red nose to prove it. And I stood there and what happened to me then, happened to me. I covered this bit in the new shopping ride where I'm standing there and suddenly I feel like my feet are being pulled to the ground, like magnetically. And I'm feeling like a drill in the top of my head and the atmosphere changed again. Only this was much more powerful than the news shop. And I heard this, again, very strong thought form go through my mind which said, first of all, they'll be talking about this 100 years from now. What? And then, which seemed absolutely crazy given the sky and the sun and the... it will be over when you feel the rain, right? And then what happened is my arms went out like that without me making any decision to do that. And then this energy got more and more powerful. And in the end, my body is shaking. And what was happening, it's like when you're driving a car and you can't remember the last mile. Your subconscious has been driving the car, thank goodness. I kept coming back to some kind of consciousness and then going back somewhere else. And as I came back to consciousness at one point, my conscious mind, I noticed that over the far distant mountains there was a light grey mist. And I'm watching it and it's getting darker and it's getting darker faster. I don't think it's fricking raining. And then over, not very long, the whole thing took maybe, I don't know, an hour, 45 minutes an hour. This storm came out of the... I mean, you couldn't make it up. If you put this on a movie, they'd say, oh, come on, it happened. This storm is coming towards me. And you know whether people talk about a front? Well, this is a front. It's a straight bloody line. I'm looking up. It's literally out of some crazy movie. And it's stair-rod rain. It's not just raining, it's stair-rod rain. And it's coming towards me. And I'm standing there. And I'm seeing this wall of water coming towards me. It's like something out of Bloody Moses. And the fricking red sea. And by this time, my body's shaking like crazy with this energy coming through me. And then the water hit me. I immediately drenched because it's stair-rod rain. And bang, the energy stopped. And I staggered forward like Bambi because my legs were gone. And there was energy pouring out my feet and pouring out my hands. It's still pouring out my feet. I couldn't sleep that night because of it. And something changed. People could imagine you lived your life in a bubble. Literally a bubble of information, a bubble of perception. And someone's come along without any warning and popped the bloody thing. And suddenly everything that was outside the bubble was pouring in. So my mind is absolutely awash with information, concepts, insights. What the hell's going on? It was just a chaotic mass of information and thought and everything. And in that period, it lasted about three months. If you'd have asked me my name, I'd have checked. And it was in that period in my turquoise shell suit that I went on to the Wogan show and everything that happened. And after about three months, after all the ridicule and all the newspapers and all that stuff, basically you know when you press too many keys on a computer and the computer freezes, it says, I can't process this. Well, that was me. There was so much information pouring into my conscious mind as a result of that experience in Peru. I couldn't process it. It basically froze. What happened after three months is it unfroze. And now I'm the old David again, but I ain't. I'm seeing the world in a completely different way. As they say when you read a newspaper, the truth is in the white bits, not the words. The bits in between. So I was seeing things and connections that I couldn't see before. Did you ever question yourself there, David, and think I'm losing my mind? Do I need to go and get help? Or did you just feel right for you? Did you understand that a bit more? Well, it felt right to me. I completely understood it then. It felt right to me. I did what I always do. Like I've just mentioned earlier, I thought, okay, I'm going with this and we're going to see where it's going to go. And I didn't know where it was going, but I'm going to go with this and see where it goes. And people were coming up to me after that, you know, unfreezing. And they thought you'd gone mad. You're the same David used to know, but I wasn't. I appeared to be, but I wasn't. I was seeing the world in a completely different way. And of course, in a world which is overwhelmingly programmed to see the world in a certain way, is what happens through the education system and the media and peer pressure. It's very, very narrow band of sense of the possible sense of what is. When you start talking about things that are different to that, then immediately the reaction is you're crazy or you're dangerous or, in my case, you're both, but what followed, what followed, of course, was mass ridicule, the Wogan show. And people said it must have been horrible, what it was, but it was the greatest gift I ever have been given. Because it set me free of the prison that most people live in, which is the fear of what other people think.