 Hello and welcome back to the Cube's continued coverage of AWS re-invent. My name is Savannah Peterson and I am very excited to be joined by two brilliant blokes in the space of efficiency and performance, whether you're on-prem or in the cloud. Today's discussion is going to be fascinating. Please welcome Brad and Simon to the show. How are you Simon coming in from the UK? How are you feeling? Very well. Thank you. Very well. Excellent. And Brad, we have you coming in from Seattle. How are you this morning? Doing fine. Thank you. Excellent. And feeling bookish given your background. Love that. I know that you both really care about efficiency and performance. It's a very hot topic both of the show and in the industry right now. I'm curious. I'm going to open it up with you, Simon. What challenges, and I think you've actually continued to tackle these throughout the course of your career, what challenges were you facing and wanting to solve when you started Yellow Dog? Really, we're just looking at cloud and coming from a non-premise environment really wants to be able to make accessing cloud particularly a volume to be simple and straightforward. If you look at today at the number of instance types available from the major cloud providers, there's more than 7,000 different instance types. Whereas on-prem, you go along, you select your processes, you select your systems, it's already easy. When you hit the cloud, you've just got this amazing amount of choice. So really it was all about how can you make intelligent decisions for where you're going to run your workload, how to match it with what you've got on-premise. And that was really the inspiration for roughly Yellow Dog. So staying there for just a second, what does Yellow Dog provide customers? So Yellow Dog is a SaaS system. So you get it by accessing through the Yellow Platform. And what it allows people to do is to be able to make intelligent decisions about where to run their workload without the on-premise or in the cloud. It has a wealth of information. It understands the costs, the performance, the latency, and the availability of every different instance type in all different clouds. It really allows people to be able to make use of that information, provision exactly what they need, and to be able to run their workloads. It also includes a provisioner. It also includes a scheduler as well, which is a cloud-native scheduler. So it's designed to be able to cope with cloud in terms of things like spots and interruptions and be able to reschedule and fail over between clouds if there's ever a need to do so. Yeah, that sounds incredible. And I know this means a lot for partners like AMD. Brad, talk to me about the partnership and what this means for AMD, for your customers. Yeah, absolutely. We're excited to be aligned with a company like Yellow Dog. The importance of compute is becoming more and more prevalent every day, and it's always been top of mind, but especially now when you think about what the economy and the rest of the world is kind of facing over the next, you know, probably a year or longer, it's so important that you're able to maximize your dollars and your spend in doing away with absolute certainty that you've got the right type of people behind you, ensuring that your dollars are being spent very wisely. And the great thing about Yellow Dog is that they have tremendous insight into cost optimization, compute optimization across the entire globe. Their index is quite remarkable, and what it does is it allows customers to actually see just how performant and cost-efficient AMD is. So it allows us to really put our best foot forward and it gives customers a chance to understand something that they probably weren't familiar with, the fact that AMD is a tremendous value in marketplace. Yeah, and Simon, can you tell us a little bit more about the Yellow Dog Index? I'm glad you brought that up, Brad. Yes, the Yellow Log Index is, essentially, it's live, it's available for anyone to access. You can just go to index.yellowdog.tech and you'll be able to see pretty much every single instance type that's available from all the major cloud providers, and be able to make your selection. Are you looking for GPU type nodes? Are you looking for AMD processors? Are you looking just for performance? Essentially, what you're able to do is really a live view of, effectively, what's available in different data centers around the world and the price at this moment in time. Also, just as Brad mentioned in terms of cost efficiency and taking green values as seriously as we should do, the Yellow Log Index also has the ability to be able to see, at that point in time, where the best place to be at a runner job is, based upon the lowest carbon impact of running at this moment in time. And that, for many organizations, gives an amazing insight in not just about being able to find the most efficient processors, but being able to ensure the greenest energy possible is powering that process when you want to be able to run your workload. It's so powerful what you just said, and I think when we, exactly, it's not just about, it's not just about power, but it's about place when we are looking at global computing at scale. I know that there's ESG advantages and ESG being a very hot topic when we're talking about AMW on AWS and leveraging tools like Yellow Dog. What other sorts of advantages, beyond being least carbon impactful, can your mutual customers benefit from? So it's not, like I say, there's many other features. A very important thing when you're running a high performance computing workload is being able to match the instruction set that you're running on-premise, and then being able to use that in the cloud as well. And also to be able to make intelligent decisions of where, so should something run, should something be more efficient to be on-premise? Should we always try and maximize our on-premise resources before going into the cloud? There's a lot about being able to just be able to make decisions. And Yellow Dog itself, it makes thousands of decisions per second to be able to work out where they are the best and most optimized places to run your workload. Yeah. So Brad, you work with a lot of companies at scale. What type of scale is possible when leveraging technologies like AMD and Yellow Dog combined? Well, I love the fact that you mentioned HPC. And it's one of the areas that actually is most exciting for me personally and for AMD with the combination of Yellow Dog and AWS. And AWS launched the very first HPC instance type last year. And we haven't even begun to answer a question. We haven't even begun to see the full-scale capability in the cloud when it comes to these very coordinated and very refined workloads that are running at massive scale. And we've got some products that will be launching in the near future as well that are incredibly performance. And to be honest, I don't think we have even come close to seeing the scale relative to some of these very optimized workloads in HPC that we're capable of. So we're excited. We're excited for the next few years to see how we can wrap in some of the tremendous success that AMD has had on-prem in these massive compute centers and replicating that same success inside AWS with companies like Yellow Dog. We're excited to see what's going to come forward. Can you give us a preview of anything on the record that gets you really excited about the future? I was going to ask you what had you looking forward to 2023 and beyond. Well, nothing official, of course. But I will say this, AMD has recently successfully had the launch for Genoa. It's our next gen release. And it is proving to be it absolutely is the dominant compute engine at this point that exists. And when you start to couple that with the prowess of AWS, you could see that over time becoming something potentially that can really start to change the compute landscape quite a bit. So we're hopeful that in the future we'll have something along those lines with AWS and others. And we're very bullish in that area. Love it. Simon, what about you? You've been passionate about low-carbon IT for a long time. Is carbon-neutral tech in our future? I realize this is a bold and lofty claim for you, but feel free to give us any of your future predictions. Yes. I started trying to build solutions many years ago. So 2006, I was part of a team that launched the world's lowest-powered Windows PC. That was actually based on AMD technology back then. So you can tell that AMD have been working on a low-power for a long time. In terms of carbon-neutral, yes, I think certainly there's a few data centers around the world now that are getting very close to carbon-neutral, some of which may have already achieved it. So that's really interesting. But the second part of that is really the manufacturer of everything that goes into those services and systems and being able to get to a net zero on those over a period of time. And when we do that, which is not without challenges, but certainly possible, then we really will have carbon-neutral IT, which will be a benefit to everyone, mankind itself. Casual statement. And I have to say that I wholeheartedly agree. I think that it's one of the greater challenges of our generation, especially as what we're able to do in HPC, in particular, since we're talking about it, is only going to grow in scale and magnitude and the amount of data that we have to organize sort and process is wild even today. So I love that. I'm curious, is there anything that you can share with us that's in the pipeline for Yellow Dog? Anything coming up in the future that's very exciting? So we're coming up very soon. We're going to release something called Version 4 of Yellow Log, which contains what we call a resource framework, which is all about making sure you've got everything you need before you run a job, be it on-prem or in the cloud. So that might be anything from making sure you've got the right licenses, making sure that your data is in all the right location, making sure you've got all aspects of your workflow ready before you start launching compute and start really burning through dollars with compute that you set there, not doing anything until other tasks catch up. So we're really excited about this new V4 release, which will come out very soon. Awesome. We can't wait to learn more about that hopefully here again on theCUBE. Brad, what do partnerships with companies like Yellow Dog mean for you and for the customers that you're able to serve? Yeah, it's incredibly important. One of the difficulties in compute that we have today, especially in cloud capabilities, there's so much available at this point. I mean, there was a point in time that was very simple and straightforward. It's not even close to being that any longer. And so one of the things I love about Yellow Dog itself is that it actually does a great, they do a great job of making very complex situations and environments fairly simple to understand, especially from a business perspective. And so one of the things that we love about it is it actually helps our customers, the AMD direct customers, better understand how to properly use our technology and to get the most out of it. And so it's difficult for us to articulate that message because we are semiconductor companies, so sometimes it's a little tough to be able to articulate workloads and applications in the way that our customer base will be able to understand. But it's so critical to have companies like Yellow Dog in the middle that can actually make that translation for us directly to the customer. And especially, too, when you start thinking about ESG and environmental relationships, and I'd like to make a comment on one of the things that is fantastic about AMD, AWS, and Yellow Dog, we all share the same mission and we're very public about those missions about just being better to the planet. And AMD has taken some very aggressive targets through 2025, much beyond anything that the industry has expected. And because of that, we are the most power efficient XA6 product on the marketplace, and it's not even close. And I look forward to the day when you start looking at instance types inside these public cloud providers in conjunction with the Yellow Dog, and you can actually even start to see maybe potentially what that carbon footprint is based on those decisions you make on compute. And considering that more than half the spend for everybody is generally compute in these environments, it's critical to really know what your true impact in the world is. And it's just one of the best parts about a partnership like this. Oh, what a wonderful note to close on. And I love both the synergy between all the partners on a technology level, but most importantly on a mission level, because none of it matters if we don't have a planet that we can continue to innovate on. So I'm really grateful that you're both here fighting the good fight, working together and also making a lot of information available for companies of all different sizes as they're navigating very complex decision trees and operating their stack. So thank you both, Simon and Brad, I really appreciate your time. It's been incredibly insightful. And thank you to our audience for tuning in to our continuing coverage of AWS re-invent here on theCUBE. My name is Savannah Peterson, and I look forward to learning more with you soon.