 My cat just came in. She's so confused because the room is completely different It's looking all right. What we're gonna do is we're gonna split the tier lists up. So at the moment we've got It's all in one tier list. What we're gonna do is we're gonna do two tier lists One for healers one for dps 40 predictions. So this is where I'm thinking we're gonna the spec is gonna go uh barring any you know what in fact I'll do a proper intro and We'll just check this on youtube. I think so basically this is gonna be the Level 40 tier list and it's gonna be a prediction tier list because we don't know what runes are coming out yet What we do know is what talents people are gonna be getting and what spells people are gonna be getting You know, whether they get a new rank at level 38 40 anything like that Whether they get specific new spells at certain levels between 25 and 40 that are actually gonna be you know relevant powerful things like innovate and We're gonna use that information to try and adjust the tier list Which we currently have for level 25 and see whether or not specs are looking like they're gonna get stronger Or weaker compared to other specs based on what they're gonna be getting So we're gonna start out with priests. I guess what we're gonna do. We're gonna start out with the dps specs I'm not gonna do any of the the healer specs. We're gonna start the dps specs for the First video and we're gonna do another video for healer specs. So shadow Right now it's not really a spec. You can't really take mind flay and I don't really consider it shadow If you're not taking mind flay personally I think that right now you're just playing disc with you know A couple of shadow talents that are making you able to go more offensive as disc right now I've got shadows and a however at 40 i'm gonna have shadow in as s tier I think i'm gonna create a brand new tier list for this whole time This is gonna be a dps run one right so shadow I'm actually gonna put straight in s tier the reasoning for that is they're getting double the spell They're getting a good new rank of shield. They're getting mindblast Unfortunately pain is at 42 so they won't be getting pain But they're getting a new rank of inner fire and these these are 40 and then talent wise they're getting shadow weaving They're getting silence. They're getting vamp embrace. They're getting shadow form Honestly, they're also getting you can probably put this on here. They're gonna get darkness. I think darkness is worth putting on there So they're getting all of these great new talents that increase their shadow damage by a lot But they're also gonna be getting more tanky due to shadow form and this is not you know without considering any new runes We don't know what new runes are coming in So shadow gonna hit a really nice power spike at 40. I'm putting it in s tier I think they have a really good base toolkit in general And if any of the runes that they get are strong in in any way shape or form I think they have a really good base rune kit as well Then Yeah, they're gonna be thinking it'll be very spicy next up We've got feral and right now we have feral in beta and feral is gonna be I think getting stronger. They're gonna be getting the moment feral is kind of held back by the fact that they're They don't have enough talents and there's not any specific talents that Are massively strong for them But it's just this general utility that they're building up that they aren't able to get so things like improved shred Are very nice and gonna help them out a lot But it's just the general like being able to swap to bear and have rage due to furra things like that So they can you know run both furra and interrupt having more damage Uh, yeah the manual cried pomela obviously you're gonna be a factor as well for them I think And then getting things like innovate travel form shred at a good rank Diabare form which is going to make them way more tanky if they swap into bear bite Which you don't have at the moment. They're going to get a 38 rank. Obviously there's the pounce stun And then rip at 36 as well. So I think feral actually is going to get a lot more actual feral stuff as opposed to the The cheese that they have at the moment with the sunfire spec. They're gonna actually be able to play feral more Traditionally, so I think feral is going to be moving up in power from from for me from b to a Which is going to be nice to see Balance is I think just going to remain in the s tier as long as they don't nerf star surge if they nerf star surge Then it's going to lose a bunch of power But yeah, as again, they get all this great utility. They get nice Nice ranks for you know core damage stuff. They get a bunch of A bunch of stuff to actually buff their star surge They can get star surge stun. They're getting more crit on it crit damage on it Damage on it in general. So yeah, the star surge gonna gonna still be very painful if they don't nerf it hard So that's going to be interesting to see But yeah for now I've got them in s tier. We've got ret I think is actually comparatively Gonna gonna lose some power because there's not that much extra that they actually get That Is that you know That devastating they get the shadow resura that they can swap to they get divine shield, which okay They can attack during now instead of the the current little shield thing So there's that they get plate, which is probably the biggest thing right there play armor upgrade New rank of hodge so it lasts a little bit longer and then new rank of holy light to help help heal themselves And then repentance is pretty big deal. I'd say Uh Vengeance and then two-handed specks just a little bit more damage, but I don't think there's anything there that's like this massive Massive, you know game changing thing So I'm gonna say that they're gonna potentially reduce In in tier possibly again depends on runes depends on items that come out But I think it's it's not really that ret is getting weaker such they're just not getting As much stronger via talents and speck and spells than a lot of other specks are so Comparatively they're sort of falling off a little bit. I think uh pro I still think isn't gonna be a thing So we're gonna skip over that if it is I just don't know enough about to rank it honestly Haven't seen anyone really playing it So it's a very hard one to judge ellie and I think ellie is probably the speck in the game that's going to be getting the most Power gain through talents and spells this this patch. I think ellie is going to be absolutely terrifying I think most people will probably tell you that so I think ellie is ellie is a sure thing s tier right now Barring them getting some absolute trash runes and everyone else getting like god tier runes or something Or just some random hard nerfs on their current stuff But yeah 50% overload being able to use lightning bolt Loads more damage through their talents really good ranked stuff chain lightning Uh new rank of bolt at 38 earth shock at 36 searing turkham at 40 they get winchery They get grounding they get self rez they get double purge It's just the list goes on right the speck is going to be absolutely insane So yeah, you Like watch out for ellies and honestly if you're playing shaman right now and you're not sure what speck to go I'd say definitely go ellie enhance shaman And it's a tricky one to rank really because enhance shaman is going to have got two forms right It's got like damage enhance shaman and then it's kind of got like tank enhance shaman Um, and I think damage enhance shaman is just still going to suffer from lack of mobility and just generally not being that tanky If you don't play way then you're just so squishy. I've ranked it at b But arguably tank shaman could still be quite decent again. They're getting win fury grounding Um, I guess they're gonna have to use rock buyer as as the tank shaman so the win fury tome won't help them that much But they're getting a bunch of extra stuff in the way of damage So they might gain, you know some damage while being tanky. Well, we'll have to wait and see I think that the the the tank shaman is overall going to be probably better currently at 25 than it is at 40 So this is why I've kind of reduced the power a little bit and put it in b There we go It's it arms warrior and I feel like everyone's talking about arms warrior Um, and I might be wrong here, but I don't think it's going to be s tier I think mortal strike is a big deal, right? They're getting a bunch new stuff, right? They're getting zerka raising pommel zerka stance Uh intercept so they're going to be very very mobile with both intercept and charge With the warbringer rune allowing them to sort of ping around in combat a lot So you better believe that they're going to have good uptime But I just don't know if they're going to have enough rage to maintain any actual threatening damage With all the new runes that people have so that'll be interesting to see I might be wrong and and you know higher gear levels when they're getting, you know freedoms and heal bar and stuff They might just be terrifying um, and and you know It's absolutely damage machine But I think they're still going to kind of feel the same sort of niche where they're just Like pushing in tanking a lot of damage being annoying putting on mortal strikes sort of a little bit almost more utility tank front line sort of Roll rather than The scary warrior that we know from wrath I just don't think the pressure is going to be anywhere near as high as as what we see in wrath from warriors But again, I might be wrong. We'll have to wait and see I'm cautiously putting them up to a but you know It's a prediction. Watch the space sort of thing fury Is basically just why wouldn't you just play arms? I don't think that the damage is going to be Realistically that much higher than arms has just consider you have to be doing double the damage of arms to make it worth it With the 50 percent mortal strike, right? So I put fury and see I'm I'm not expecting to see that many of them But yeah, maybe you'll get a few people playing it but yeah, it just doesn't have the the same sort of utility that The arms does and the damage if any doesn't really make up for it So I'm taking them out of NA tier at least and we'll put them in in C tier Pro I'm keeping in NA again. I just don't don't know enough about the spec Haven't really seen many of them. Haven't seen any of them do anything really of note So it's really hard for me to compare what I don't know now to you know with the new the new tools they're getting it's It's too hard for me to judge so I'm gonna put that in F tier NA you might see some it might end up being good. There might be some some Cheese spec that somebody comes up with but again, I it's a predictive list And I just don't know enough to to predict it assa So assa is going to have really really high sustained damage. I think they're gonna have good poison talents and then that with the Uh, the poison rune is gonna be Super annoying. I think they're gonna be getting cold blood seal Silphate vigor and and rogues are a tricky one to rank because they have so many options to sort of half spec right they can go like, you know A bunch of points into assa and then finish off with some in combat or some in serve or whatever right and do this sort of hybrid hybrid spec and then it's really hard to sort of Quantify what that spec actually is so I'm just going with pure assa at the moment, but there'll likely be some potential variants that are also very strong But yeah, the assa is going to be the sustained damage spec for sure where I think combat will have sustained damage as well, but I think assa is generally scarier due to the the nature of the way that it deals damages scary into both play and and Clothies and stuff like that as well. But these specs will most likely lack a little bit in utility and mobility Combat I've actually put the same but just slightly worse I think than assa combat is good at the moment because the early early talents are quite good So pretty much regardless what you play you can put a bunch of points in early combat and it's good right now at 25 But if you fully commit to it, you're basically just just like PvE damage, but it's very similar to fury. I think in that regard So I put combat down to be and then sub I think is going to be very very scary with prep They got cheap shot. They got kidney shot. They got blind, right? They got a good rank of abyss They they got a new backstab at 36. Okay. It's not amazing. It's not too bad They're gonna have a wound poison And then on top of that they're gonna have a bunch more damage Uh through the talents So definitely watch out for subrogues. They are they're gonna be scary I think they're gonna be bursting people down like crazy. Next up we have hunter Just getting quite a lot of stuff I've kind of got spells pretty much the same for all of the specs because they're kind of relevant for all three specs The the specs don't really differ that hard in terms of the You know the way they play for the most part They deal damage in slightly different ways, but the the Spells and utilities are still relevant. So we've got rapid fire We've got frost trap, which is very strong Flair again really strong spell Uh feign death. So the ability to start actually, you know feigning and using traps. This is a huge deal Viper's thing, which is very annoying although more serious players will be having a big stack of uh Poison resistance potions to remove that Uh aspect of the pack So this is going to be nice for the group. So things like warsong and group world pvp Uh, the armor class is going to be getting upgraded to male They get a new rank of hawk a new mark and a new rank of freezing trap. So it lasts a longer duration Uh, and then marksman is getting true shot or a talent if you go all the way down It's gets range specialization. So more damage barrage scatter scatter is a very big deal. I think so marksman Potentially it depends it depends on if they decide to change the way that hunters is dealing damage. So right now they are very very heavy on pet damage and Blizzard has done some changes to reduce that and to put a little bit more of the weight on the Range damage. I think they need to to do even more. I think pets are still doing too much of a percentage of hunter's damage I think it's too easy for bad players to just autopilot do damage with them um And it would be it would be nice to see more of that damage shifted to their actual shots rather than just letting the pet do Auto attacks basically So yeah, I think that if that happens Then marksman will will potentially come up to s tier Because the damage is going to be crazy high from mark marksman in that regard And then I think bm could come down to a tier right if the pet is weaker than bm is weaker right makes sense and then I think survival is going to Likely stay in a tier. They're much more of a utility spec, right? They've got wyvern They've got lightning reflex counter attack sure-footed and trap mastery. So you're gonna You know be causing a lot of problems with things like frost trap as survival With the trap and trap and things like that as well that are going to be way more relevant in this patch And yeah survival is going to be really really annoying However, it's not going to be the kind of spec that's like in your face. Just one shotting you. It's more of a team player So it's it's hard to actually rank that but yeah, just for overall pvp and overall Ranking I'm giving it an a Keeping it an a I'm not sure whether it's a right now or not I haven't seen that many people actually going for survival talents. Most people are playing bm There's a few people playing mm, but yeah Survival is quite rare to see at the moment. So it might not even be an a at the moment It's just the the the talents are mostly just utility at the top of the tree marksman again Remaining the same but could go up bm remaining the same but could go down again This is very much dependent on runes, but we don't know what the rune changes are So we go with what we know and try and make a prediction based on that Next up we've got warlocks Before we had demo in an a because the talents in demo weren't really worth taking early on Even if you played something like meta, which is potentially what you could could consider demo The early on talents just weren't worth taking you would most likely take something in affliction instead However, now you can go all the way down to soul link So That's going to be more of a traditional demo spec where you're just very tanky There's most of the talents in demo actually aren't that strong It's the soul link that actually makes the spec no doubt You you have the potential to get your pet back with Feldom because you can get the master demo now reducing the cast time Other than that, it's mostly just you know a little bit of tankiness for the pets resistances You know the resummons a little bit of stamina There's nothing that really stands out that much but the soul link making you so tanky is going to be the one to watch out for On top of that they're getting tongues They're getting fel hunter. They're getting spell stone new rank of drain life. So the drain life dot is going to be particularly annoying They'll be getting seduce They'll be getting demon armor at 40. So a very nice rank of demon armor They got howl of terror devour from the pet spell lock from the pet and then a decent rank of agony With shadowbot coming in at 36 So demo is going to be very tanky especially if they play with something like meta the melee players are going to be having a very very bad time trying to kill any sort of Soul link warlocks that also running meta Um, so I'm taking it from the not uh, not applicable spec, uh tier to beat it Um and Potentially it could be higher Again, it depends on the damage they actually put out But this spec kind of reminds me of nunu from league of legends for a while where he was kind of just like trash But he also makes you trash So basically he's just running around doing nothing being tanky as fuck Uh, but he also means that you makes it so that you can't do anything either, right? You can't kill him He's too tanky. He's just being in your face. He's throwing tongues out on your castes. He's spell locking. He's devouring stuff Yeah, it's just like a bruiser build Uh, just being super annoying. So it could even be a Um, if you if you I feel like for me it almost feels the role of like a warrior Right in the front line of war song you could bring a like a warrior and a demo lock Put them in the front line and just soak up so much damage and just be a pain So, yeah, definitely. I think there's room for this in the meta Uh, but yeah, the downfall of this spec is the lack of instant cast corruption. No doubt about it 100 percent Uh, which is where affliction potentially will come in and that will have the instant cast corruption Uh, and it will have a bunch more damage But it will also have a bunch more drain So I think affliction warlocks offensively are going to be a lot scarier than they are right now Right now, they've got okay damage But there's not they don't make you sweat as hard as they will next patch And they're also going to be healing up more than they are currently next patch However, more strikes going to be in so it remains to be seen how much that actually Manages to reduce their healing how it interacts with the runes and these kind of things So affliction, I've still got staying in s. I think that they're getting enough stuff to stay in that tier in the same place They are currently Destro is actually going to move up a tears. Destro is going to move up to beat here They get a bunch more instant damage. They won't get more more crit damage due to ruin range And just flat damage and obviously they get all these these good things that we talked about before Um, there's I feel like there's a couple of options for destro this patch where they can either play with succubus and Then they can play with um with chaos bolt And the succubus is going to allow them to set up damage get cast off these kind of things Or they can play with meta and they can play with uh the fel hunter And the fel hunt is just going to run around being annoying purging cs and whatnot Meta's going to make them tank here and then they're going to have the instant searing pain And there's got there's a talent actually that's going to make that searing pain critical over it So they're going to have the option to play a lot more instant base destro Rather than Going for cast base destro and just try and put our damage in that way And then if you get any sort of cast off any sort of emulates incinerates anything like that Then your damage is going to be going through the roof with the the searing pain So that's one to watch out for as well. I think there's definitely two potential options for them there I don't know if either of them either of them are going to be amazing. I think s athlete's probably going to be stronger But again want to watch they could get some nice runes if lock gets something like shadow fury, then this could be very very strong Uh, and then finally we've got mage And I think mage is definitely going to be stronger Next patch than they are now. I don't know How much stronger I think it kind of depends on like again, it depends on runes But mage gets a nice rank of bolt. They get longer poly nice rank of blast. They get more mana. They get mage armor New rank of arcane explosion. Okay. This isn't that impactful for frost But overall their single target damage is definitely going to be better on top of that They're getting barrier block and then shatter plus ice shards, right? This is where their shatter combos are going to come from from their ice lances Are going to if they run it are going to potentially be doing a lot more damage this patch And they're going to have that more traditional frost play style that you're used to seeing in in, you know tbc and rat um Isn't cone of cold 42 I feel like cone of cold comes in at 42 Can someone check that for me? No, but the rank of cone of cold It's going to be a low rank cone, right? Rank two cone is 42 Yeah So your cone of cold is mostly going to be used for utility not damage Again depends on what runes come in. Are we going to see water elemental? Are we going to see deep freeze? Stuff like this is definitely You know we're going to push frost up into s tier if they do end up getting these kind of things So yeah, we'll have to wait and see on that one. I think mage is going to be very very uh dependent on the runes that they get fire, I think I think fire could stay at a tier again. It depends but they get a lot a lot of damage Uh And right now fire is actually doing pretty good single target damage or burst damage the issue is that they go oom But yeah, if you do a fire mage, they can definitely burst you down So with this increased damage on top of that They're going to be they're going to be scary single target. I think uh At level 40. So again, I've got all mage specs rank to a tier It's difficult to say it's going to be dependent on runes big time. I think mage compares even more so than most other classes Um, and then yeah arcane arcane, I think is actually going to receive Probably would be one of the first classes to actually get some kind of nerf because of the arcane surge And right now arcane mage is already doing these cheesy arcane surge plays with arcane blast and It's only going to get worse when cs is going to be a thing I think they're going to have arcane mind and they're going to have arcane power, right? And So basically what they're going to do right is they're going to sheep you they're going to cast an arcane blast into pom arcane blast with cs Right, so you're not going to be able to react or do anything And then they're going to mana pop back to full mana and arcane surge you and they're just going to one-shot you And I don't think there's I don't think there's going to be many classes other than like things like shaman with way and maybe warriors with like the big HP pool Warlocks with soul links stuff like this that are going to actually be able to tank this I think even if the surge doesn't crit This is going to be doing crazy damage with arcane power, right? Absolutely crazy damage So I think that what is going to end up happening is I think arcane surge is going to get some sort of a change on earth Because this is a very very obvious and easy to execute one shot And people are going to cry So I'll be surprised if that doesn't be be a thing isn't isn't a isn't a regularly seen thing Yeah, it's um, it's going to be scary for sure so Arguably you could put this as s tier because of that If that sort of cheese gets it's nerfed. I don't know how much you know outside of that they have In terms of utility Or capabilities, but they get some good ranks 40 missiles um Which is yeah, this is It's good for them for sure, and I think you might see more arcane healer majors Uh, but I'll rank that in the next next tier list So, yeah putting putting major in a tier all round um rather than doing anything too crazy and Jumping the gun and putting him to s tier my original predictions for last Phase when I was doing 25 actually had major quite high and we all know how that turned out So I'm being quite cautious with mage um, and if something turns out to be busted then you know Unlucky But yeah, that's that's the tier list. I think at the moment I'm I'm pretty pretty happy with this as I said, it's it's a prediction and no doubt most stuff will will change It's it's sort of the best idea You know Rough estimate that we've got without knowing what ruins are coming in what gear's coming in all these kind of things Which will all change things no doubt, but yeah, if you want a rough idea of what to to give a go next patch What's going to be high I ranked And just a strong spec then at least this gives you some kind of an idea rather than just closing your eyes and picking a classroom