 Okay, the recording is on. So good morning everybody. Welcome to BC 213, our course on the end times. We're going to pray together and then we're going to get started. May I invite somebody to please unmute your mic and pray with a glass and then we'll start. Can I pray? Okay. Our Heavenly Father, once again we are most grateful. We thank you for this opportunity to Father sit at your feet and to hear your words. Father, we pray and commit ourselves into your hands once more. Lord, continue to guide us, guide our thoughts, guide our understanding and guide our interactions. Father, we commit past ashes to your hands, O God. Continue to increase His wisdom that He will be able to communicate to us in the best language that we all can benefit from these lessons. We thank you for an answered prayer in Jesus mighty name. Amen. Thank you and everybody welcome once again to have a course on the end times. Last week we started the main part of the course which is to get a panoramic view of the sequence of events. We're going to get into all the details of the sequence of events. We started that. We're going to be spending many weeks, I guess, many hours in this chapter so that we could answer all the questions, we could ask questions, discuss, try to understand why things are going to happen and why things are going to happen the way we say they're going to happen or the sequence that's going to happen. We will ask questions, we can discuss and do our best. This is where we got started. This is chapter 4 giving us a panoramic view. So we know the scriptures in many places and I have just referenced to you, but there are many scriptures that tell us Jesus is coming back and then we try to have this little chart, maybe a little smaller again, to give us kind of an overview of the sequence of events. So we are right now, I'll just quickly review and then say a few things and we go forward. So we're right now in the church age. So if you imagine the beginning of this line here, as the time and the Lord Jesus after his resurrection ascended to heaven and the day of many cost. So from that time, you know, we are in the church age. God is working in the church. He's also working with the Jewish people. He hasn't abandoned them, but the New Testament is focusing on the church. So we then talk about the rapture of the church, seven years of tribulation, the second coming of Christ and then the thousand years on which we refer to as the millennium and then the end of the age, which is the great white throne judgment and then new heavens and then new earth. Now I just want to kind of relate some of the terminology we used in the beginning when we talked about people who have different positions, you know, different views. So it's very on this chart, it's easy to point that out. So very easily, people who say they are pre-tribulation, that means they believe that the Lord Jesus is coming or the rapture of the church, sorry, we talked about the pre-trib, mid-trib and post-trib. The pre-trib people believe that the rapture of the church will take place here before the tribulation. The mid-trib people believe that the rapture of the church would take place in the middle of the tribulation. The post-trib people believe the rapture of the church will end here after the tribulation. So there are different positions. You know, as we go through scripture, we will see, you know, why some people may take these positions. You know, just to mention quickly, I will give a strong reason as to why we believe in the pre-tribulation position, why we believe the rapture of the church will take place before the tribulation, which is what we have shown in this chart. Some people believe the rapture of the church will take place in the middle of the tribulation, mainly because of what we read in Revelation chapter 14. Yeah, Revelation 14, you know, the 144,000 Jews are taken away up into heaven, and they are the first fruits because of that. That's one reason why some people have that position, and some have the position at the end of the tribulation. Now, the other terminologies are that we used in the beginning, and just to compare it with this chart, we said that our position is dispensational pre-millennialism. So that's our position. That means we believe in the rapture of the church before the millennium. So millennium is starting here, but we believe in the rapture of the church before the millennium and before the tribulation. So dispensational pre-millennialism. Now the dispensational refers to the ages. So we strongly believe that we are in the church age, and the church will be taken out of the way, at the end of the church, the church will be taken out of the way before the tribulation starts. So that is dispensational pre-millennialism. Now you don't have to remember all these terms, I'm just explaining those terms in the light of this chart. So, you know, you can understand that. And then after that, you can forget all the terms, focus on the scriptures. Okay, but I'm just explaining those terms. So dispensational pre-millennialism. Now the other another term we also saw was historical pre-millennialism. They believe the rapture of the church will take place here. There's still pre-millennialism that is before the thousand years, but they believe the church will go through the tribulation and be taken out here. So that is historical pre-millennialism, or what we would refer to as post-tribulation. And the dispensational pre-millennialism, we would refer to as pre-tribulation. Then we also saw another term, which is when there was a millennialism, and then there was also a post-millennialism. So what do the post-millennials believe? Post-millennialism believes that Jesus Christ will come here at this point, at the end of what we say is a thousand years, and he will take the church directly into, so everything wraps up here. So basically, Jesus comes here and so the church is actually journeying all the way through right here, and everything that is said in the book of revelation is happening, or is going to happen all the way through here, the church is going through, and through the church the kingdom of God will be established. This thousand years of reign of Christ will happen through the church in a spiritual sense, not Christ literally reigning on the earth, and so the church goes through. So the church is a centerpiece, everything's happening through the church. Jesus is reigning for a thousand years through the church, and then he comes here and he wraps everything up. So this is post-millennialism, so that means they believe Christ comes after the millennial. The uh-millennialist, that's the fourth term, they also believe Christ comes here at the end of the millennium, but they believe something different. They believe that everything started here, that means it started here when Christ was raised from the dead, right, the last days began, and he will, you know, everything will happen, and they don't literally, they don't believe in the, you know, whatever we could reading in revelation, it's kind of, it's going to happen, you know, not literally the way it said, and it'll all, you know, so the church will just journey through all of this, things in revelation, yeah, they will happen. So basically Acts 1, Acts chapter, or the Acts chapter 2, the birth of the church, on the way to Revelation 20, happens here, and Jesus returns. So very similar to post-millennialism, except that they don't believe in the literal fulfillment of revelation, you know, till Revelation 20, it's just some things that a lot of it is just typology and so on, they don't, basically they don't believe in that happening literally. So that's why it's called a millennialism, or literally they don't actually believe in those things happening. Church came, Jesus comes back and wraps everything up. So these are the four major, you know, positions, the terms that we mentioned. Don't be too worried about those things. You know, my recommendation is just, you know, understand from the scriptures the sequence of these events and the scriptures that back these things up, okay. So we are not going to be, you know, necessarily pulling on those terms again. I just wanted to explain it with reference to this chart. So it might be a little clearer now what those terms mean. So let's get started now. So we're going to get, start looking at these things and answering some of the questions that, you know, that come to mind. So first of all, the rapture of the church is clearly, you know, it's, so the word rapture, let me just say this, the word rapture of course, it's, it doesn't appear in the English Bible or doesn't appear in Greek, but it comes from the Latin word. So from First Thessalonians up to four in Latin, the Latin Bible, and we will read First Thessalonians four, there is the word simul rapimor, simul, simultaneously, rapimor together. So the word rapture in Latin simply means together. So it is in the Bible, but it's comes from Latin, right. So some people say word rapture is not word rapture, it's not in the Bible. Well, it's the root is Latin and in the Latin Bible it is there. It's just, you know, it's just the word that means together. So we are caught, we're going to meet the Lord together, rapture means from the Latin, it simply means together or to be caught up together, right. So that's what it means, rapture means together. So we are going to meet the Lord together in the, we all together meet him in the air. So it comes from Latin. So if somebody says it's not in the Bible, you can say, yeah, it is. It's in the Latin Bible and many of our, not many, but there are English words that have a Latin root. This is one of those words that come from there. Okay. Now, the description of what happens then in the rapture is found in these two passages. So let's read them and look at them a little carefully. I'm sure, you know, many of us would have read it and I usually read both these passages in every funeral that I conduct and, you know, it's a wonderful thing that when we are, you know, when we are mourning the loss of a person, meaning the death of a person, the passing away or the home going of a person, it's encouraging for us to remind ourselves that death itself is not the end. So, and so, you know, many of us may have read these passages before, but let's read it again. Could somebody read First Thessalonians 4, 13 to 18? I just want us to focus in on certain aspects here. First Thessalonians 4, 13 to 18. First Thessalonians 4 was 13 to 18, but I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, God will bring with him those who sleep in Jesus. For this we say to you by the word of the Lord that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with a voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and thus we shall always be with the Lord, therefore comfort one another with these words. Now I just want to point us to a few things here. So in verse 16, Paul is saying, this we say to you by the word of the Lord. In other words, you know, Paul is saying, look, this is the word of the Lord. I'm not making this up. You know, I'm not coming up with some nice story. This is the word of the Lord, right? So he says, brethren, we're telling you this by the word of the Lord, meaning we are, we are transferring to you the very words of the Lord. Okay, so what do we believe? He says in verse 13, considering those who have fallen asleep, right? So here he's comparing death to sleep, right? Now that does not mean that death is sleep. You know, now that's something we should avoid. Some people, you know, literally say death is sleeping. That means the person dies, the body's there, and the spirit and soul is inside the body, and they're sleeping in the grave. You know, some people interpret it like that, and that is wrong, right? Why? Because just read on the next verse. It says, he says, those who have fallen asleep and this sleep theory of death is incorrect because the very next verse says, if we believe that, if we believe that Jesus died and was again, even so, God will bring with him those who sleep in Jesus. Well, where are those who sleep in Jesus? Where are they? They are with God. That's verse 14, because God will bring with him, right? That means the sleep theory is not correct. You know, that you put the body there and the spirit and soul is sleeping in the body, resting there in the ground, or in the lower parts of the earth. That's not true. No, why? Because verse 14 says, God will bring with him. That means those who have slept in Jesus, that means they have died in Christ. Where are they? They go to be with God, with the Lord Jesus Christ. So here's another side note. He says, God will bring with him, and then he's talking about the coming of the Lord. Verse 15, the coming of the Lord. So here again, God, the coming of the Lord. So the Lord is God. Okay, here's another side note. So what's going to happen? Verse 15, he says, he said to you by the word of the Lord, that we are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. So he's talking about the coming of the Lord. So the Lord is coming, and there are people who have died in Christ. What will happen? Verse 16, the Lord will descend with a shout, with the voice of an archangel. So there's going to be this announcement in heaven. There's going to be some sound in heaven when the Lord himself descends. There's going to be a shout. There's going to be the voice of an archangel, and there's going to be the trumpet of God. So when the Lord descends, what's going to happen? There's going to be a shout. An archangel is going to shout, and there's going to be the sound of the trumpet. And you know, later on, I just explained that trumpet is very significant, because in the Old Testament, the trumpet, the sound of the trumpet was used for two primary things in the context of God's people. One, the sound of the trumpet was used to assemble the people together, collect them together. Second, the sound of the trumpet was used to announce the presence of God. We will look at it now. So it's very significant. The sound of the trumpet is again being used here when the Lord, verse 16, when the Lord descends. So he's going to descend just the way he ascended. He's going to descend from heaven. That time an archangel is going to, you know, make a bigger shout or make a big announcement and blow the trumpet. And then it says at that moment, the dead in Christ will rise first. So those who are died in Christ, they are coming with him. That's verse 14. Their spiritual person is going to be receiving. It's going to be wrapped up with their resurrected bodies. That is the dead in Christ will rise. Then, verse 17, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together. So in an instant, we are alive. And if you and I are alive, and when this happens, in an instant, our bodies are going to be changed directly from what they are right now, flesh and blood, mortal bodies, flesh and blood, corruptible, mortal bodies. Suddenly, they will be changed into spirit bodies, flesh and bone, incorruptible, immortal, just like the body of Jesus. So in an instant, and we will look at the scripture from verse 15 and Philippians 3, they describe it. But in an instant, this flesh and blood body becomes a flesh and bone body. The flesh is not human flesh. It is incorruptible, immortal. I'm using the word flesh in a very just as a terminology, but it's spirit material. So this flesh that we have right now is a flesh and blood. It's mortal, corruptible, but it becomes a body of a different material, like the body of Jesus, flesh and bone, but it's immortal, incorruptible. Because after Jesus was raised from the dead, he said, you touch me and see me. Look, he had a spirit body, but that body passed through walls. That body just didn't have to walk. It just moved. So it's a different kind of a body and it's an immortal, incorruptible body. So we are alive. Our bodies are instantly changed and then we will ascend to meet the Lord in the air. So you can imagine this is coming together of every righteous soul. That means those who have died, all the saints who have already died, they're coming with the Lord. They come and somewhere in between, you know, from the earth. It doesn't mean everybody's bodies are in the earth. You know, some have died at sea, some have, you know, bodies may have been destroyed. Obviously, all bodies have been destroyed completely, but as they're descending, God is giving them this glorified bodies. Then we also are just, are immediately changed and we're all caught up together to meet the Lord in the air and it says we will be forever with the Lord. Now, it doesn't say at that point, is the Lord going to come down or is he going to go back up? But the idea is we're going to be with the Lord. The Lord is descending. We are all meeting him in the air. So you can try to imagine this. You know, people are all around the world, the globe, believers. We're all going to meet him in the air at some point. I don't know exactly where. And we're all, the bodies, we're all going to be, and there's going to be this great heavenly gathering. So if you can imagine millions and millions and millions, I don't know, maybe billions of people up in the air, between heaven, between the heavens and the earth, around the Lord. And he says, so shall we ever be with the Lord. So what we are saying is at that moment, when rapture comes, the Lord comes, we meet him here in the middle and he takes us into heaven. Now you say, how can we show that? It doesn't state that exactly here in this passage for Thessalonians 4. It doesn't state it. How can you say, because it doesn't state, we meet the Lord in the air and then where do we go? Do we come down to the earth or do we go up into heaven? It doesn't state it. It just says, so shall we be with the Lord, ever with the Lord. So we are saying he's going to take us into heaven from there when we meet him in the middle. The question is, how can we say that? Which we will answer. But let's get a little bit more detail on this event itself, the rapture. The coming together and the meeting together in the air, this changing of the bodies and meeting the Lord in the air. Let me look at that event itself and then we will answer the question. Why do we say he's going to meet us in the air and take us back into heaven and not meet us in the air and bring us to the earth? We will explain that. But let's look at the rapture event itself. Let's look at 1 Corinthians 15, 51, 58. Please somebody could read that and then we go to Philippians 3. 1 Corinthians 15, 51, 58 please. Pastor, can I read? Yes, please. I'm reading from the amplified version here. It says here in verse 51, take notice. I will tell you a mystery. We shall not all fall asleep in death, but we shall all be changed, transformed. In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye at the sound of the last trumpet call, for a trumpet will sound and the dead in Christ will be raised imperishable, free and immune from decay, and we shall be changed, transformed. For this perishable part of us must put on the imperishable nature and this mortal part of us, this nature that is capable of dying, must put on immortality, freedom from death. And when this perishable puts on the imperishable, and this that was capable of dying puts on freedom from death, then shall be fulfilled the scripture that says, death is swallowed up utterly vanquished forever, in and unto victory, or death where is your victory, or death where is your sting. Now sin is the sting of death and sin exercise its power upon the soul through the abuse of the law. But thanks be to God who gives us the victory, making us conquerors through our Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore, my beloved brethren, be firm, steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, always being superior, excelling, doing more than enough in the service of the Lord, knowing and being continually aware that your labor in the Lord is not futile. It is never wasted or to no purpose. Amen. Amen. All right. So thank you. Thank you very much. So notice he says verse 51, we shall all be changed. He says verse 52, in a moment in the twinkling of an eye. So this is going to happen, you know, we use the word instantaneously in an instant. We will be changed. Right. What part of us will be changed? He's saying, he's explaining here that I'll come back to a few things, but in verse 52 he says the dead will be raised incorruptible. So it's like a paddle passage to verse the Solonians for the dead will be raised. And we who are alive, we will also be changed. And what will happen? Verse 53, corruptible will put on incorruption, mortal will put on immortality. So in an instant, this outer man is going to be transformed. And what we can say is it will be like the resurrected body of Christ. How do we say that? Because first John 3 says, we will see him as he is. When he comes, we will be like him. So that's what happens. Our bodies, and first Philippians 3 also, we will read, these bodies will become like that resurrected body. Right. Verse 54, corruptible will put on incorruption, mortal will put on immortality. It's like we are bypassing death. Bodies are changed instead. And that's when verse 54, 55, it's like death. This is it. You have no more victory. Now yes, at this point in time, people die, even believers die, and we put their body in the grave. So it seems like nobody can escape death. But at this time, 1 Corinthians 15, death, death's powers vanquished. The dead in Christ are going to be raised and with glorified bodies. And those who are alive will receive glorified bodies directly. And, you know, we'll be laughing at death or death. Where is your sting? Oh, Hades or hell or grave. Where is your victory? Right. So that's, that moment is a great moment. It's like the last enemy is gone. Now, here again, verse 52, he's talking about the trumpet, the last trumpet. The trumpet will sound. Now remember in 1 Thessalonians 4, he also used the trumpet. Now, this is again a point where sometimes people connect it into the book of Revelation. In the book of Revelation, we see that during the 7th year tribulation, there are three sets of seven judgments. So there are the seven seals, seven trumpets, and seven bowls during the tribulation. So because in 1 Corinthians 15, we read the last trumpet. Or some people say, well, this rapture will take place on the 7th trumpet during the tribulation, because it says last trumpet. But then our response to that is, well, you know, the seven seals, seven trumpets, and seven bowls in the seven year tribulation are all judgments on the world. It has nothing to do with the church. So we should not connect the last trumpet of 1 Corinthians 15 with the last trumpet of the seven trumpet judgments. That is our response, you know. Whereas those who want to position the rapture on the 7th trumpet, we say, look, during the tribulation, seven seals, seven trumpets, seven bowls are judgments being poured out on the year. They're not a blessing or anything, you know, that kind of thing happening. It's on the world. And therefore, we shouldn't necessarily just because it's seven trumpets, you know, we shouldn't connect this with that. So then they will ask, you know, what do you mean by the last trumpet in 1 Corinthians 15-52? Well, the way we can understand it is, it's the last trumpet, meaning it's the final two ways we explain it. And I've put it in the notes. I'm just talking to you now, but it's in the notes that I've given you. The way we explain it is, well, it's the final announcement for the church age. So that's why it's the last trumpet. It's the last trumpet because we understand in scripture trumpet is used for two things, the gathering of people and the announcement of the coming of the presence of God. So that's why we saw when we put 1 Corinthians 4 and 1 Corinthians 15 slide by side, we see that when the Lord descends, there is this shout of the archangel and the sound of the trumpet announcing the coming of the Lord. Then there is this trumpet saying, people come gathered together. So two trumpet sounds, one announcing the Lord's coming, another announcing the coming together, the gathering of the Lord. And both these are seen in the Old Testament. Where is that? Yeah. So the trumpet of God. So numbers 10 talks about the trumpet being used to gather people. Exist 1916 talks about trumpet ushering in the presence of God. So that's how we will explain why we believe the last trumpet is not the seventh judgment trumpet, but it is the gathering together, the announcement of the presence of the Lord and that the gathering together of the saints of the Lord. The other passage that we want to read is Philippians 3, 2021. I will give some time for questions. We will cover some ground and we will differently take up some questions. Philippians 3, 2021, somebody can read that for us please. Shall I read faster? Please go ahead. For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body that it may be confirmed to his glorious body according to the working by which he is able even to subdue all things to himself. Thank you. So notice he says here we are waiting for the Lord Jesus, but verse 21 is very clear. He will change our lowly body, this death doomed, mortal, corruptible body that it may be confirmed to his glorious body. So what kind of a body are you and I going to have? What is this glorified body that we are going to receive? He says yeah, it'll be like his glorious body. So that's why we say some things that we can say about the body we are going to receive at this rapture. It's going to be like the body of Jesus. So what can we say? You know, it's a body that passed through walls, but it still could be touched and felt. Jesus told his disciples, you know, you touch me, see? I've got a body, but it's different. It's different material. It passes through walls. It ascends and descends. It's, you know, it's different. It functions in different ways. It's a glorified body, a resurrected body. He could even handle food. He could ascend into heaven and so on. So the same body Jesus has, we have. Now, I want you to think about this and I don't want to, you know, go off too much on attention, but I wanted to think that the eternal word has this glorified body, which he did not have, at least to our knowledge. We don't see, but he probably, and I should use the word probably, he probably didn't have it before his incarnation, right? Because the eternal word came into the earth, became a man, resurrected. He had this glorified body and he ascended with this glorified body. Somebody think about, we don't know everything about it, but the Bible says, in him dwells the fullness of the Godhead bodily. So that glorified body contains the fullness of the Godhead because he's, he's God, he's part of the Godhead, contains the fullness of the Godhead bodily. So while this mortal body could not and cannot contain God bodily, this glorified body contains the fullness of the Godhead bodily. Just something to think about and we will get to know more about it when we get to heaven. Okay. So the coming of the Lord is like a thief in the night, meaning, when is this rapture going to happen? Yeah. So let's go to first the Salonians chapter five. And let's read that 11 verses. And I think after this I will pause. First the Salonians chapter five. Somebody could read verse one to 11 please for us. What's the Salonist five one to 11. So this is right after Paul has written about the the rapture, right? He continues writing this. Go ahead please. First the Salonian five one to 11. One to 11. Concerning the times and the seasons brethren, you have no need that I should write to you. For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. Or when they say peace and safety, then sudden destruction comes upon them as labor pains upon a pregnant woman and they shall not escape. But you brethren are not in darkness so that this day should overtake you as a thief. You are all sons of light and sons of the day. We are not of the night nor of darkness. Therefore let us sleep as others do. But let us watch and be sober. For those who sleep sleep at night and those who get drunk are drunk at night. But let us who are of the day be sober putting on the breastplate of faith and love and as a helmet the hope of salvation. For God did not appoint us to wrath but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ who died for us that whether we wake or sleep we should live together with Him. Therefore comfort each other and edify one another just as you also are doing. Thank you Christopher. Now remember this passage, 1st Thessalonians 5, 1, 2, 11 which we just read. It's actually a continuation of what he wrote in chapter 4. 1st Thessalonians chapter 4. It's a continuation. So chapter 4 he has said, we are going to meet the Lord in the air so shall we ever be with the Lord. Now he didn't tell us we meet him in the air. Are we coming to the earth or are we going to heaven? But we're going to be with the Lord. And then he sifts and says, okay brethren concerning the times and seasons I mean when this thing is going to happen you don't need to tell me, you know you don't need me to tell you because this is going to happen the day of the Lord. So this event happening is referred to as the day of the Lord. Now as we mentioned the very beginning and the introduction the day of the Lord is a term that's used you know in many different contexts. So depending on the context you need to understand it. And so in this context the day of the Lord means this day when this rapture is going to happen, the day of the Lord. Peter will use it differently. He'll use it to talk about the day of the Lord in terms of the new heavens and the new earth. Others will use it the day of the Lord in other ways right in the even in the Old Testament. So but here the context is this happening the rapture happening the day of the Lord this happening is like how a thief comes in the night meaning the thief comes unannounced the thief comes unexpected in the night. Now that he's saying just be ready for it just be ready for it we don't know when it's going to happen. And so he gives us you know a lot of instructions let us live as people of the light and not live as people of darkness because just like you know and he uses other pictures like a woman going into labor which is you know she can she knows yeah it's it's close to the time but she doesn't know when it's going to happen and then the time comes. So it's like that. So that's again another example. So let's live as people of a light and then in this context look at verse 9 and 10. He says this is going to happen because God did not appoint us to wrath but to have salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. And next verse it's it's one verse now verses 9 and 10 is one sentence. Took the salvation of Lord Jesus Christ died for us said whether we are alive or dead we should live together with him. So you look at verses 9 and 10 put it in context what you're saying this coming of the Lord we don't know when it's like a thief in the night. So we must live as children of the light but this is going to happen so that we can experience salvation through Jesus Christ and we don't need God did not appoint us to wrath. What is that wrath? The wrath that's going to be poured out on the earth. So God didn't appoint us to that and therefore this is going to happen the rapture is going to happen because God didn't appoint us to wrath but instead whether we are alive or dead we are going to be raptured so that we can live together with him. So previously he said we're going to be with the Lord now he says we're going to escape the wrath and we're going to live together with him. It doesn't conclusively state it doesn't you know categorically state we're going to escape tribulation but he says we're going to escape wrath because this is happening the rapture is happening we're going to escape the wrath and we're going to live together with him. So this is an indicator to us and we will give you give other clear you know reasons but right here you find Paul is telling us this rapture is taking place so that we can escape the wrath and we can live together with him and that's one indication okay he's going to meet us in the air and do what? Bring us to the earth so we can go through the wrath or are we going to be taken out so we can live together with him but from all indication of verse 9 and 10 putting it in context we are going to escape the wrath and live together with the Lord okay. So that means this rapture taking place we're going to escape the wrath God has not appointed us to wrath seven years of tribulation judgment of God being poured out on the earth God has not appointed us to wrath but for us to live together with him so we're being taken up into heaven that's just one indication I'll give you solid many more reasons on why we say this is going to happen right. So what are we going to do there in heaven for seven years when there are seven years of tribulation during that time we know when they were seven years when we are in heaven all these things will happen we will be with him in glory we will see him as he is we will be like him living in glorified bodies it's a we also read Ephesians you know Philippians 3 21 and 1st on 3 2 we will know God as we are known 1st Corinthians 7 12 we'll be welcomed into our mansions in heaven we'll stand before the judgment seat of Christ and receive rewards for our work we will look at these passages we will engage in worship as redeemed kings and priests we will be joined in worship through martyrs who come through the tribulation that means there are people who die during the tribulation believers who people become believers and are killed they will join us in heaven and we'll be worshiping the Lord and they'll be part of the marriage of the lamb so during the seven years we know all these things will happen okay let me pause here and I know I didn't leave any time for questions in this lecture let me see other questions all right are there any questions here okay so there's a question from Debiah is there a difference between the resurrected body of Jesus Christ and after he had ascended to heaven which kind of the believers received at rapture and we will see a different body as Jesus did yeah so to answer that question and there we have we will you know we can only look at you know Philippians 3 21 and also 1st on 3 2 where it says when he comes you know we can be like him 1st on 3 2 when he is revealed we shall be like him 1st on 3 2 so Philippians 3 21 1st on 3 2 both tell us we will be you know we will have a body like his glorious body we will be like him so this this resurrected glorified body Jesus ascended with that body and that's the body he has that's the body in which he's moving so as he appeared to his disciples you know he appeared to them in that glorified body and it's just a different material we don't know what it is but we can see what Jesus did in that body and these scriptures are telling us we will our glorified bodies will be like that glorified glorious body that Jesus had that's as much as you know we know at this time okay okay I just had a follow-up on that so if it it was the same body why was Jesus telling Mary Magdalene not to cling to me or have not yet ascended to my father so why is that mentioned yeah so on the day of the resurrection when he appeared to Mary and Mary recognized him and said Rabbani and he said don't touch me yet I haven't ascended to the father yet so what happened Hebrews chapter 10 verse 14 says he ascended to the father so that he could offer his blood in the most holy place in heaven right so then he came back and after that when he met his disciples again then he told him hey touch me he told John you know and not John what is Thomas Thomas touch my touch me you know look at you know I have a real body right so what happened what was the difference what happened between the resurrection day and a few days later when he could have been maybe you know I don't exactly how many days but a few days when he came into that room and he or even when he walked on the road to Emmaus with the disciples and he sat at the table you know what was the difference the difference was Hebrews 10 oh and let me give you the exact words yeah um Hebrews 10 uh yeah uh that he um he entered into heaven uh with his own blood Hebrews 10 12 after he offered one side questions all right then there must be in Hebrews 9 yeah so Hebrews chapter 9 verse 12 Hebrews 9 verse 12 what did he do he entered the most holy place with his own blood so that's what happened he had he had not yet done that he had not yet gone into the most holy place with his own blood now you know I know some people ask the question you know how how did Jesus carry his blood you know uh because he died three days back uh on the cross who collected his blood where was it kept how did he carry his own blood into and see all those things we don't need to know uh and it may not even be necessary uh it just means that he entered into the most holy place according to Hebrews 9 12 where he said he is that sacrifice that was already offered for the people but that was the difference the only thing different between the day of resurrection when he told Mary don't touch me when a few days later when he told Thomas touch me okay okay pass thank you so much yeah all right I know we have a lot of questions a lot of hands get up um you know we will go ahead and take a break and as soon as we come back from the break we will answer we will take up all these questions uh please keep your hands raised throughout the break time I'm just joking um we'll take up your questions right after we come back from the break is that okay uh 10 minutes break and then we'll get into the questions and move forward okay thanks