 That's like the weirdest thing ever to like stand and like you're awkwardly I'm awkwardly being talked about and it's like I guess it's all true because I wrote it at some point in my life But um, so I'm Amber like she said I'm so glad you guys are all here with me today And I'm sorry for the short technical delay. I'm gonna take Accountability for that because I use the wrong kind of slides. I don't know so Anyway, I love to travel. I love to go places. I love to talk to people, but I'm actually from Phoenix, Arizona So I'm just gonna start with that right there because I felt like I was like from some world traveler and I'm I'm from Phoenix I live like 20 minutes away, but today we're gonna talk about using the rules of improv to build better creative teams and Through this presentation. My goal is by the time we're done today You will have some tools to make build more collaborative teams More creative teams and that your teams will have more fun because that's my life goal To is to have fun and everything that I do so First of all though a couple more things about me because that wasn't enough First I'm Amber. Hey, I've been practicing waving with my left hand so I could match Tom Hanks for like a week and a half now. I think that's the best presentation. I've preparation. I've done for this talk So I'm a writer I Co-own a creative agency called amplitude media and we write words that sell stuff for people early sass the goal and I've spent the last four years here in Phoenix performing as a stand-up comedian an improper former and I've done some live storytelling I'm kind of a stage whore and But in the best way possible I love I love talking to people where there's one-on-one or in large groups I also make amazing pancakes. It's a thing My best client meetings have been around my kitchen table and I make cinnamon swirl pancakes with butter. I Can't remember the name buttermilk. I said crop syrup all of the things. Anyway, I swear I make it I'm not making that up even though it looked like I was making that up on the fly And even though this is an improv this whole thing's about improv. I actually did prepare. I'm not making up this presentation I'm also not a very good dancer, but I am inherently a creative person. I identify as such And I believe that everybody has the ability to be creative I think some people think that if you're a creative person, it means you're a writer or an artist or a musician I'm two of the three I'm sub-par at two of the three as well most of the time most of my songs are Written on state first stage to be funny and inappropriate, which is why I didn't bring my ukulele today But I think people think the inside of my brain must look like this And if you know creative people you think that the inside of their brain looks like this How many of you identify as being creative people? How many of you didn't raise your hand raise your hand now? Okay, leave your hand up. How many of you identify as being creative people? We all have the ability to be creative We all do and that was a trick it was a nasty rotten trick But by the end of today, I'm hoping that you all have that feeling that you have that ability to I'm gonna let you in on a little secret. My brain doesn't usually look like this. In fact, it usually looks like this This is my greatest fear after alligators tornadoes and trains Which are all perfectly logical rational fears when you live in Arizona As a writer, there's nothing scarier than the blank screen as a performer There's nothing scarier than blank index cards and as a presenter. There's nothing worse than a PowerPoint presentation My goal today is to make this as fun as possible. This is my most boring slide. I'm setting myself up for success Is what I'm doing. Okay, so I am I believe that creativity is a muscle and Although it looks like I go to the gym on a regular basis My creativity muscles are my strongest because I use them every day I used to Be scared that my creative ideas would dry up Because eventually they're gonna run out We all start with only a certain number ideas in our life. You can't have any more after that That's a lie And it's supposed to be a joke, but nobody laughs. So that's okay. It's happened to me before I have four kids. It happens every day. Nobody laughs my jokes. So Creative creativity comes in a lot of forms it comes I've seen some beautiful code that is some of the most creative things. I've ever seen written and I'm amazed that I'm in awe, but if you had asked my my engineer friends if they're creative. They'll say no I've seen some Some super creative math stuff physics is one of my jams And I don't understand it completely I didn't just in awe of it and I love it and I see some things that mean some things that people tell me the Means I'm like, this is the most creative thing. I've ever seen in my life and it's beautiful But they would not identify as creative people. So we all have the ability to be creative We all use creativity to solve problems and that's what we're doing when we're creative as we're solving problems We're finding solutions. So we're gonna start By learning some basic improv rules and exercises for strengthening your creative muscles So we're going to the creativity gym, which is my favorite gym After Jim Belushi, he's pretty funny, but So there are four rules and improv and I talk really fast Even when I'm not talking to I don't know how many of you are like six of you So if I'm talking too fast, we'd be like slow But I have a lot of things to get through and I want to have some fun So that's why I'm like ah and coffee. I've got a lot of coffee today. So The most basic rules of improv the first one is what I'm sure everybody's heard which is yes and So when you're on stage or in a creative brainstorm, you say yes to anything that's offered to you It's a gift when somebody pulls something out of nothing It's a gift when they hand it to you you accept it because if I brought you a box of chocolates You wouldn't deny them, right? Even if you don't like chocolate you would still accept it and take it and give it to somebody else, right? Otherwise you're just rude And nobody wants to be rude, right? Maybe some of you do I'm just making assumptions, but the second rule is to listen Which is a lot harder than it looks The third rule is there are no wrong answers Which is the best kind of test ever when you're being creative in your brainstorming. There are no wrong answers And number four is I've got your back. So you're on stage to support your team You're in the room to support your team whether it's your co-workers Whether it's your family whether it's a client whoever your team is your brainstorming to solve their problem Finding a creative solution and you've got their back So we're gonna go over these in more detail So you don't have to write them all down right now, and if you don't write them down I'll send you my slides because I have some really fun gifts and stuff And some other words that are important But here's a bonus tip and this isn't an improv tip. This is a life tip Have fun That's the number one rule that happens everywhere. I go It applies to life and improv if you're not having fun Change what you're doing do something different, but if you're not having fun in your creative brainstorming sessions Change what you're doing change how you're doing it because it should be fun Creativity is fun. It shouldn't be painful That's a lie. I might lie to you a couple times today, but I always catch myself creativity is sometimes painful But it should be fun pain. I know how that sounds and I'm just gonna keep going so the reason I got into improv is because I was doing stand-up comedy and One of my club owners said I think you'd be really good at improv and I'm an attention whore and so I said, okay That sounds like fun I was working in an agency and I wasn't having much fun in my creative life at the time because there were so many rules About how to be creative and the rules were who had the good idea was who had been there the longest Right, I hear some murmuring Some other rules were we don't do that because we've done it before and it didn't work Well, that was five years ago with a different client with a different tactic. So let's try it. Let's try it again Some other rules are we don't know how this is gonna turn out. So we're not gonna take any risks. How many of you done that and it's like The greatest things happen when you take the biggest risks Looking at you two right there because of our conversation before this um So I started and go back a year before that I started doing stand-up because I'd moved to Phoenix and I didn't know anybody and I was kind of bored and Everybody has stand-up comedy when it gets bored, right? It's a longer story than that, but I'm trying to hurry But my first time doing stand-up comedy and I'm telling you the story because there's nothing to do with my slide deck But it's funny and sometimes that's good So I was I was nervously pacing backstage and I was like my nervous energy that I have all the time But then I was about to perform for the first time and this old comedian Stops me and he's like I've not seen you here before You know, have you not been at this club? And I'm like, I've never been anywhere. This is my first time And he's like he looks at me dead in the eyes and he's probably like 152 years old and he Puts both hands on my shoulders and he leans in really close and I can smell whiskey and I can smell pot And I can smell cigarettes And I can smell that he had garlic for dinner and brush his teeth He was very close and he leans in and he says I've done a lot of drugs in my life full stop Says nothing for 45 seconds at least it was the longest 45 seconds of my life. I'm like, I don't know whether he's going to like Just walk away if he's gonna try and kiss me if he's gonna I don't know what's gonna go on here And I feel stuck and he's like There is no high like you'll feel when you get off that stage tonight. I'm like, oh Okay, that's a really cool. I that's really cool. I think he was like I'm saying don't do drugs Okay, Nancy Reagan. Thank you very much But he was right. I got off that stage and I was like I needed more I needed that hit again and it's become a glutton. I do I chase that high which is why I perform However, I found that I can find that high with the right creative Creativity the right moment I can find that high when I'm in a room with a client And we have been working on a project for five weeks and we nail it when we say This is your tagline and it's three words that they've paid thousands and thousands of thousands of dollars for The most important three words they're going to build in their company for the next ten years at least and I can say That's when I get that high now because it's still creative and it's still creative energy and we've solved their problem Anyway It's about when I switch from comedy to improv It was more about the less about the me and more about the we and When I switched from comedy to improv is where I saw that my best creative ideas happened on stage With my friends when we were playing on Wednesday nights and performing on Saturday nights And I didn't feel that same we when I was at work And I didn't like it because I thought I should be creative every day Because I think we all should be creative every day including today How many of you are terrified I'm about to call you up here right now now who to call on I'm just kidding I'm not going to do that because I feel like we all have choices We are allowed to make and one of the choices is not to be up here today. So um, I Lost my place in my slides. Okay, so it doesn't do much sense to do this presentation without doing a little demonstration of what Improv looks like right? How many of you have seen an improv show of some sort? So you have a little bit of idea. Okay, um We're gonna play a game. We're gonna warm up and get our creative muscles going So I did ask for a volunteer beforehand, but are there any volunteers before I pull my volunteer Does anybody want to maybe want to volunteer? Okay, come on up Bravery I love it. You are gonna rock this because that's what I've got your back That's what we're gonna do. So what is your name April? Hi, April. I'm Amber nice to meet you We're friends now come for pancakes. Are you living Phoenix? awesome, I Have my first pancake date from WordPress. I actually make really good waffles, too I'm all for all breakfast food, but I you're gonna have to try my cinnamon swirl with better better milk Syrup tastes like frosting. It's not anyway Okay, so we're gonna play a game right now Call the alphabet game and the alpha the game the purpose is we're gonna have a conversation We're gonna set a scene so somebody shout out a place that we're at. That's not here We're at the hospital So the way the game goes is April and I'm gonna have a conversation at the hospital I'm gonna start and I'm gonna start with the letter a whatever. I say I'm gonna start with a you're gonna do b c Back and forth got it We're gonna help you out Objects to have fun, right? That's the object of everything. So we have a conversation now Just don't deny anything. I say accept it as truth and add to it. That's the secret and it's harder than it looks But we're gonna give it a shot. Okay April are you okay? But I just I just I just wanted to fall down the cliff cliffs You jumped off of cliffs. Were you diving? Diving no, I was I was looking to drown Everybody did you hear that? April was trying to drown. I'm really worried about you With the love of God, please Just just let me go Golly April we just became friends If I let you go then we'll never have pancakes. Oh heck Amber I just I just really really just wanted waffles Waffles, I promise. I'll make waffles just don't jump again Jumping was fun though. What's the goal of jumping? Love Men, huh? I get it. I totally get it Never did I see such an amazing man Can you can you tell me about it? It's harder than a look potentially potentially the the mate of my life quite spectacular Okay, so you see a big hit random applause for April I Don't know if I'm gonna if I broke it you can go sit down. Thank you. Thank you for being a good sport Oh, it did come back on it's a lot harder than it looks But it's one of those muscles that the more you do it the easier it gets That was amazing first time. Yes It's one of the ways that you flex your creative muscles by using it. I've played that game a thousand times I have some tricks for remember where I'm out in the alphabet. I am Still forget where I'm out on the alphabet. Sometimes it happens I have tricks for the words that are the hard letters I've I've learned those things because I've I've I've done it so many times that muscle is really strong in my brain And in my creative my creative set So we're gonna talk about the rules, but we're gonna start at the bottom because I don't actually like rules I Have a lot of issues with rules in general. I feel like you should know the rules You know how to break them. However Stuff for now today these rules that I'm making up are the most important rules of your life ever So a large part of my job gets involves getting people Who don't feel like they're creative to get to the heart of their creative problems? So we can help them find creative solutions, but they have to be part of the creative solution I can't build a concept for a brand without knowing the brand and I don't know the brand as well as the CEO knows The brand or the people who've been in the middle of it for a year or two so You have to be able to involve people in the creative process themselves It's the same when you're building an internal creative team. Our job is to come to the best idea We know from experience that when we're all working together We come to better ideas How many of you have ever had the best idea of your life and shared it with somebody who immediately went that is amazing? What if you also did and then they elevated to another level and then we also ever had that happen, or is that just me? Like that's how creativity happens, right when ideas collide and they build better and bigger ideas So in business often it can feel like there's a lot of ownership And it can feel like it's a competition to come up with the best idea And so the one of the challenges that I had in business was that my creative team wasn't very collaborative And it was there was a lot of throwing people under the bus and typical business bullshit And so for me going to improv every week I was on a stage of people who were there to make me look funny And there's nothing I like better than somebody who makes me look funny except for maybe pancakes So we have to flip the script on most business corporate settings So on the on the screen are on the sorry on the stage. It's not about being funny It's about making your team member be funny So one of the things you do when you have a team that practices together a lot as you get to know each other So you know where each other strengths are you know where each other's weaknesses are you can set people up? The guy who has a great Scottish accent you can set him up to surprise and delight the crowd with his accent out of the middle of Nowhere by asking him how Scotland was I say Scottish or Irish. I don't know whichever one so then What you're doing is you're helping him win you're helping him have get the last laugh When your team is doing the best to support you it being funny You have the same advantage because they do it in reverse for you what happens is Everybody's funnier when they're all working together now Okay, so the problem on the corporate level is the often this doesn't happen So how can you do that in your own businesses in your own creative? Collaboration sessions, how can you instill that culture where you're at where you support each other you have each other's back Can you help each other be funny or creative or win? Building a team a team of collaboration. This is the one of the cornerstones of our company is that we are we we're not an eye We're not independent We function as a group and we function as a core with ourselves with each other with our clients When we pull in a lot of freelancers we function as a group and that way when I succeed my partner succeeds My graphic designer succeeds. We all succeed when the client's happy everyone's winning So the third the third rule is there are no wrong answers, how would you like to have had this be a rule when you were in school? Right, we learned very very fast not to take risks Very very fast you learn you have to use the right colors You have to color inside the lines you have to learn to follow the rules that are set out for you There are some reasons to have rules and stuff 2 plus 2 has got to equal 4 most of the time However in the creative process When you are garnered by rules and you have guardrails and you have to you're so wrong about so worried about failing Then you miss the big opportunities I love this quote that creativity comes from the freedom to fail and failure is a Bad word I don't like it because failure is actually opportunity in disguise That's what failure is if you never take any chances if you never take any risks if you never fall on your face You'll never fly you'll never jump off that cliff and fall in love. It'll never happen because you're not going to take any risks On the improv stage. There are no wrong answers You can say anything you want to say and your team has got your back Right rule number four and they're going to support you're going to step what you're going to say and they're going to help you move forward The bigger the risk the bigger the the bigger the magic at the other end of the the other end of the The cliff I lost my words for a minute that happens sometimes We're really really good at stopping ideas our own other People's we're really good at stopping them because they're scary and they're terrifying and the bigger idea and the bigger the risk The more scary and the more terrifying that it is but if you don't ever Explore you're never going to win. So there's the important the important rule of there are no wrong answers for a couple reasons It allows for exploration You don't stop you don't start with no, you don't start with that's the wrong answer you start with huh What if and then you explore the idea and it gets you places You never would have been before because other people's brains are the most fascinating places to explore if they'll let you and I Mean in a not creepy like Jack the Ripper kind of a way or whoever was at eight brains or a zombie way, right? But often our mind makes connections before we see them I'm in the middle of this huge research study right now with one of our clients about making decisions We don't have any answers and you don't know if you don't know the solution so predicting the future and He's doing with math because he's an actuary. I'm doing a brain cognition because that's a lot more interesting and Doing a lot of research and a lot of studying and one of the things when you study anthropology and Evolution and all of that kind of stuff brain science is that we've evolved to make connections and see things before we even know We're seeing them. It's why your gut is usually right when you don't like somebody Or when something seems off because we're really really tuned into those bad signals When you allow yourself to explore ideas you'll find connections that aren't there But if you stop exploring before you can get started then the magic never happens and we're all about magic That's what we're looking for right now it can be a launching place for somebody else to take hold of your idea and make it grow bigger and also many times our first Instinct is correct and if you have to explain your instinct Before you can have the idea then you're not going to progress because often it takes you a couple days of thinking about it That's the other creative magic is you do the painful process You bang your head against the wall and you bang your head against the wall and then you stop and everybody goes home And everybody takes a shower because that's where the best ideas happen Somebody will figure it out. It'll happen One of the biggest gifts of improv training is the ability to think quickly and the ability to speak without thinking Some of us are born with that gift and it gets us in a lot of trouble sometimes though When you can have that fully formed before I just rewound that because that didn't make any sense at all So when you can speak without thinking though, then that's the first instinct and that's what you get to act on So We are gonna play a game, but we have 10 minutes. So if we have time, we'll come back to this game and it's called three things so Keep that in mind. If not, we can play in the hall afterwards. It's a really fun game so Now number two is this can feel contradictory When you're speaking without thinking right? The key to doing that though is by listening. So if I'm having a conversation with you mark And I'm having a conversation and you're telling me something you can tell when I'm not listening. Can't you? It's really obvious. We all like to pretend like nobody can tell when we're not listening, but it's like yeah mark That's really interesting. Uh-huh. Yeah Yeah, and I'm like doing my grocery list in my head or I'm thinking, you know writing dirty lyrics to songs that I know like things like that and You would just it's obvious on stage when you're doing improv You can tell when somebody isn't listening It's painfully obvious and what happens with a lot of stand-up comedians when they get on stage is they're writing jokes So I can I can see I'm like, okay We're in the scene and you're doing this and you're probably gonna do this if I say this punch line I'll get the biggest laugh and that's what I'm gonna do and then the whole scene fails because I wasn't listening because people aren't that predictable and So we're gonna especially especially Improper performers are not that predictable You're gonna think they're gonna stay left and they're gonna say purple and then you're just screwed Because your joke doesn't make any sense So listening to listen versus listening to hear and to understand as a skill We all need to work better on and our creative teams as we learn to listen and slow down and Really hear what somebody's trying to say and understand and ask the questions to make sure we're hearing and understanding It's how we build stronger teams Um so oh, sorry, I'm like getting ahead of myself and backwards and forwards and all the things so When you're on stage or you're in a creative brainstorming sessions You can't have somebody's back if you're not listening to what they have to say That's really the key the number to this rule is that you're breaking another rule when you're not doing it correctly And you can't add to the scene if you don't know what that's going on in the scene I'm telling you it's all about magic and unicorns and rainbows. That's what creativity should feel like it should feel fun and exciting So when setting up brainstorms, especially with clients We warn them that it's going to be super awkward And I just start actually I start most of my relationships and conversations with people that way I just let you know. I'm super awkward. I Say really dumb things a lot of the times and I make jokes that people don't think are funny And then I try to make up for of pancakes. It's just a thing that I do And it works most of the time and when it doesn't I Try harder next time. I don't know anyway So we weren't it's going to be awkward and we are on a phone call with a client They're in New York and Seattle and we're on the phone or brainstorming is an hour and a half long conversation And at one point we warned them. We said this is going to be awkward We're going to make you think and we're not going to answer all of your questions we're going to ask a lot of questions in return and For people who don't function in that way all the time It can be it can be super awkward and at one point the CEO of this company. She's like this just feels so weird Why does this feel so weird and I said because I'm not talking and What you're used to having happened is you say something and I respond immediately I respond I don't want to know what I have to say. I already know what I have to say in the situation I want to hear the third thing you're going to say The third thing you're going to say I want to know what that is and if I talk over the top of you I have no idea what that third thing is because the third thing is Typically where the magic happens the first idea isn't where you win is the third If you let somebody get to the third idea, I promise you'll have And rainbows and butterflies and unicorns will happen And it's awkward and it's okay. So The most commonly known rule of improv is yes and Which is why I did it backwards because I wanted you guys to feel like you already knew what was coming so you're welcome It's a gift actually so yes and is a gift when somebody is creating something out of nothing and they offer you something Right the chocolates you accept them when you're in a creative brainstorm and somebody comes up with an idea out of nowhere You accept it and then you build on it. So that's this. That's the and the and is the hard part It allows them that allows the the scene to move forward on the improv stage This is like the most awkward movie ever and I love it because it feels like my childhood So on stage, how would you feel if you were up here and I'm like, so we're at the hospital. No, we're not Okay, so how are you doing today? I'm not here Like when you stop the scene, right? That's how it feels. It's awkward How many of you have been a creative brainstorming session where somebody throws out an idea and the first thing somebody says is say why it won't work Yeah Every single one of us has been there, right? How many of you have had the thought in your head? This is never going to work, but you don't say it and then it seems to work and then you're like, I'm so glad I didn't say anything That happens to me all the time Usually when my kids have some great hair bring hair schemed idea. I've learned to just accept it and go with it I could say that about a lot of things in my life actually, but and parenting It's a life tip just say yes and see what happens and have really good health insurance But on creative teams when you have to defend every single thing you have to say It's no longer collaborative as combative and that's what you want to do when you're building teams is make sure that you're working together To build bigger ideas. You're not competing and fighting. So that's back to rule number four, right? So we're working together to make it happen And I'm gonna read you this quote even those against all of the rules of all of the things of presenting because this is one of the books I've been reading about thinking fast So allowing people to operate with without having to explain themselves constantly turns out to be like the rule of agreement in improv It enables rapid cognition So if I don't have to explain myself if you just say yes And then you add on it We build a bigger idea because we're thinking so fast. We don't have to explain ourselves yet So that's part of the the agreement, but it's also part of it's also part of the previous rule, too, right? to listen and all ideas are good ideas and working together, but it's also Good ideas can come from anywhere and this is one of the things that I've been really working on lately, too is The idea of diversity in groups and diversity of thought and making sure that we have diverse ideas in a room And so I ran a team of I was in charge of our interns for a couple of years And it was my one of my favorite things I ever did because it's this group of kids who are so enthusiastic And they're so excited and they are target demographic for two-thirds of our client base at the agency I was at and we have them in a room and I told them Speak up say what you're thinking join the conversation your creative ideas are valuable And I tried to train the name film as much as I could before I sent them off into the world to have it beaten out of them Because they hadn't had enough experience Good ideas come from everywhere When you accept somebody's idea and you add to it then you're you're collaborating together And you're raising everybody to a greater greater height and a greater strength and a better team and better ideas. I Think differently than you think you think differently than you think you think differently than you think we all have different experiences different ideas When we all collaborate in a room and everyone has a voice Then we have the idea to build magical beautiful things sunshine rainbows unicorns. I swear it's gonna happen someday I Had a teammate a colleague who was the best at this and she actually taught me this lesson in a way that I've never seen it Done before in a room and it's every single collaborative brain session we brainstorm we would have Every idea was a good idea She is the queen of yes and And so I would say something and she'd be that is a really interesting idea I really liked that she would start she would frame almost every conversation with that every response It would be a positive affirmation of what you said And what if we also did so she's not denying what I said because that's a tricky thing people do sometimes Well, that's really interesting. What if and then they have a different idea And then you're just like well that was denial even though it was trick tricky denial So that's the secret to is to make sure that you're accepting and you're moving the scene forward But you're doing in a way that's genuine and real so that's a really interesting idea. I really like that What if we also and then build as you go? So just to recap the rules of both improv and creative brainstorming collaboration. Yes, and Listen to listen. Don't listen to speak. There are no wrong answers And I've got your back when we work together as a team that's when the magic happens and I'm really sad we don't have time to play more games But if you want to come over for pancakes some in email will play improv games of a great time So thank you so much. If you have any questions. I think we have like 30 seconds. So Yes How do you play three things? Okay, so the way you play three things is you can have as many people as you want and I say I'm gonna say I have What's your name? Julie has three things in the trunk of her car and then and then Julie and so then Julie has to say Three things. So what are three things in the trunk of Julie's car a? body a shovel and A bicycle pump and what we do is we as we do those three things ever goes So we say the first thing and it goes one and then she says the second thing We all go to and say the third thing we all go three and it goes the next person But it's a cadence like this And so the key is is like I have three things in my pocket I have and then the next person and then I say You have three things in your refrigerator, and it's so you just go it's a way of doing it without thinking so it's just like There are no wrong answers. You're listening and you're just you're saying the first thing you think of and It's really fun Because I'm a nerd, but it's really fun any other questions To someone that's introverted okay, so this is actually I am a super super extrovert clearly And when I did improv I was surprised how many introverts were on our team And so my secret is to go and try it that is my best tip You will not know how it feels till you're there, but what happens is you're building a safe space So improv rehearsal feels like a misnomer or an oxymoron. I'm gonna go practice improv right now Happens as you're building a team and so it's the same as practicing Collaboration as a team practice ideation practice creativity. So when you're on a team You're gonna go with your team once a week and you're gonna rehearse for three hours And you're gonna play games with your friends That is my favorite part of improv is like I would go and hang out with my friends and play games Once a week and then on the weekends. I go play for games in front of a bunch of people and They would laugh most of the time and so if you're introverted and you're interested. I'm gonna say try it I know there's like there's like I can think of three clubs off the top of my head They have a weekly drop at night if you just want to try it And if you want to know send me an email grab me afterwards I can give you whatever one's on your side of town, but that's my But that's my life tip for everything is just try it and see what happens minus jumping off cliffs Unless you have a parachute or a hang glider or there's water at the bottom. Yeah, there are well I don't know about meetups like a formal meetup.com, but there are drop-in improv classes. So I There's like three different comedy clubs I can think of that have like for public and then it can just go drop in and I'll teach you the basics And you can try it out. So catch me afterwards and I'll point you in the right direction Anyone else? I think we're I think we're out of time. Thank you so much