 Are you guys ready for another Nintendo Prime podcast? Episode 11 How's it going everyone? Welcome to the Nintendo Prime podcast episode. I mean a lot of technical difficulties start the stream Hopefully everything's working. It better be if it's not. I am going to strangle a deer Tomorrow I'm gonna go out in the woods. I'm gonna find one and I'm just There's plenty of them in Wisconsin. Oh, there's a lot of them I mean I can find them on the side of the road half dead. So Thank you guys for sticking by those that were here through our technical difficulties if you're catching this out of the fact Congratulations, I probably trimmed it out. So Welcome to episode 11 of the Tenor Prime podcast. We got a lot to talk about this week. We got E3 Stuff happening. So that's a big thing Nintendo announced their E3 plans today We also have a crapload of switch pro news because all of the switch pro stuff happened after last week's podcast So we have a lot I love auto tune. Yeah, I love auto tune Why not my friend? Why not auto tunes my friend? And the thing is that I guess can't hear the auto tune. Yeah, because it doesn't go to them that way So anyways auto tuning it up. This is how it goes If you guys think this is entertaining just wait Wait till you see Everything that goes wrong speaking of things going wrong. Oh my gosh, it kind of works except I'm in a low You are any moment Wow, I'm in a low frame rate. So we will get this fixed. This is a another camera I I'm having some issues with some of the cameras here. I want to see if this works Eric. Let me switch to your camera Okay, how's there good? I'm way too high. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm not that that I can fix that That's all we're about. I'm worried about your frame rate. I can't go any lower. You're looking good You know who's gonna look perfect on camera Our guess which I mean the guests look amazing our guests today By the way, our Andre's restart and 5j gaming say hi guys Hey guys, what's up? That's yeah finger guns. Yeah Yeah Hopefully my audio sounding good because everyone that I was saying that I was sounding quiet. So let me know if it sounds I Think about as well as everyone else Hopefully hopefully things are going good So, oh, this is a cute cam on Eric. Let's go. Let's go back to the Eric cam quick. What is this? It's cute. It's cute All right. All right. Um, so how are you guys doing today? I'm gonna take off the glasses because obviously meeting it off to as cool of a start as I wanted to today So yeah, we got a packed show for you guys if you're listening to the audio version Hey, good for you cuz I'm gonna For you cuz the video version's a little bit Rough but we have a lot of testing so as Eric was noting before and we'll note now that because that's parts trimmed out Is that we are doing a lot of testing every stream? We do especially when we have guests on so like a podcast It is a time for us to test things for our E3 setup And when obviously we had audio issues now the audio issues are fixed now I know how I fixed them now. I need to hope that it stays fixed Another thing I notice now is obviously when I switch to the camera on me. I'm not in a good frame rate right now I got to figure out why the camera is not putting out a good frame rate But you know, it is what it is. Well, we'll figure out these technical difficulties as they go that camera literally just arrived today I'm sure there's some settings and stuff I need to mess with because I've already messed with all the settings on here and that one just likes to show Eric's Chesticles because that's how we roll So let's get into the actual show shall we? So Eric, I believe before we were so kindly reminded that we don't have audio really working for the guests very well in a Listenable way What are we going to talk about first E3? 2021 Nintendo stuff or we could talk about switch pro first. Let me know. What are we talking about first? I let's go with the actual stuff. We know first so the facts the facts first Facts are the switch pro is getting announced tomorrow. There you go Oh That route that I like that route too. Oh So you should actually know that by the way. Yeah, I'm just kind of thinking. All right, so it's not go works in Nintendo though So, yeah, right. Yeah, that's how it goes. So all right You want to start with the facts the facts are that Nintendo announced E3 today, right? They announced what they're doing sort of they at least announced what they're when they're gonna be at E3 They're gonna be at E3 at June 15th at 9 a.m. Pacific, which is 11 a.m My time I'm I'm central time 12 12 noon basically Eastern I believe so That's all great. That's when they're gonna go they're gonna go on June 15th Which is the last day of E3 on that day ESA previously announced that they are going to do an awards show Which I presume is gonna take place after Nintendo's done You would hope but I don't actually know because there's some there's some interesting parts to what's happening And how Nintendo's doing this and why it might almost feel like they're not at E3 Because they have a 40 minute show and then they're going to follow it up immediately with three hours of Nintendo treehouse That's all they announced by the way. They didn't tease a game They didn't tease a tournament They didn't tease anything other than saying hey, it's going to focus on software exclusively for the Nintendo switch Uh, and most of it's in 2021 now most means, you know, they're going to talk about something in 2022 Maybe it'll be a new game reveal Maybe it's just because they want to top us between three and so that's a 2022 game Pokemon Legends Arceus is a 2022 game So it could just be known quantities already for 2022 or it could be something new But obviously we need to know the lineup the rest of this year because when it comes to just nintendo's involvement We have skyward sword in july Pokemon in november everything in between that's coming out that we're aware of right now We're all third party games. Should we go up and say five? I want to point one thing out Sure skyward sword and pokemon brilliant damage shining pearl Are remasters and remakes. So in terms of brand new internally published nintendo games, there's nothing It's all just remastered remakes right now plus the remaster of that pokemon game wasn't even done by a game freak So even more outside even more outside of the realm reality. So Yeah, there's the this is the facts, right? So they're gonna they have a they have to have a lot to talk about and jason schreyer, uh Well, you know what a video game journalist out there, uh put out there on twitter today Hey, look it sounds like nintendo is going to be the company that carry 2021 Because all these other companies have been announcing a bunch of game delays game delays game delays game delays Heck even horizon forbidden less for sony might not even make this holiday and get delayed So it seems like because of covet nintendo actually might be the company carrying the game industry for a little bit But we'll have to wait and see what's actually announced and what it's actually coming out Before we can officially say that and unfortunately we do have to wait till the end of e3 for it now That is happening. That's the fact. That's the the technical only fact We know because everything else comes from people who have heard things Now the people who have heard things some of them are legit Takahashi machatsuki stuff like that people are actual journalists of real sources And it would massively hurt their reputations if they are wrong on the stuff they're saying It could cost them jobs all that kind of stuff, you know people who get busted in lies get in trouble Especially when you're working at like bloomberg. So Got reputations on the line here Well, we're not going to get the switch for you Let's let's stop at the e3 stuff because we've been talking e3 rumors for weeks Maybe even months at this point, right? At least hopes dreams samus hunter other crap that's been been thrown out there You know, which fun fact there was something that samus hunter inferred would happen At e3 that hasn't been confirmed And now you wonder if it's going to happen at all things like the spatoon 3 tournament the smash bros tournament Things like she guaranteed breath of the wild would be there and those the games she guaranteed would be there could technically still be there But she said something wrong the lines that they're like nintendo would be doing stuff like every day of e3 And they're not at least officially And what's interesting about how nintendo is handling e3 is they're streaming everything on their channels, which okay Fine, right? That's what they do every year. They stream tree house on their channel They stream their own stuff on their channel, but the esa is running a show Now I presume the esa is not going to have anything going on during the show And they're just going to Restream or co-stream whatever nintendo is doing at least for the 40 minute part But what happens if they decide we don't want to stream the three hour Tree house and they just decided to go do their own things and suddenly we have competing streams of e3 content Like That's something that could happen But again, we don't know because the esa has not actually announced the full e3 schedule as well Maybe all that's left to do that day is the awards because Think about it if nintendo is going right away in the morning Because that's probably gonna be the first thing in the morning because they always run out run out of Pacific time because the esa is located in on the what is that the west coast? Yes, so they always go off that time zone anyway So if they're if they're if they're starting at nine You know, we'll be probably starting our stream at seven. You'll have your your stuff whenever you're doing it I'm just restarting. I know 5j. You don't really do much. Maybe you'll tune into mine Maybe you'll tune into my stream. We'll see maybe bring you a little one on Let him let him see let him see what a nintendo prime stream is all about Yeah, while he's too young to see some of the inappropriate things I might be doing at times um Actually, I I'm gonna keep a pretty PG dirty three for the most part Um, I can't guarantee my audience will but that's a different story So Let's just let's just start there. What do we actually think nintendo is going to do? In this time slot. Well, actually before we get that are we disappointed that they're just doing what they always do They always go on a tuesday. They always go at nine. They always follow it up with hours of tree house But instead of there being three more days of tree house, there aren't three more days of e3. There's one day Uh, and obviously we have to wait till the end of e3 basically this year because it's a digital event Uh to hear from nintendo like what what do we think about that? Is it did we expect it to be on a different day? So I'll tell you this if you watch my videos and my podcast. I've kind of like debated different days throughout but I've mentioned this several times. I scheduled one day off a few months in advance for that week One single day off and that day that was off that I scheduled months ago was june 15th So I always kind of expected it to be that day Tuesday, I don't know why but it just seems like nintendo likes doing things on a tuesday Um, yeah, it's gonna end the show, right? Um But i'll tell you because it's like the end and because it's just the direct and then tree house footage I think the esa is going to allow an intelligence to have that exclusive Full hour time slot just to themselves. They will have the limelight And then as you said because it starts early in the day, there will be time afterwards to do all the review stuff Maybe they cut into it, but I kind of don't expect them to and maybe that's why it's only three hours Just so they can fit into a certain time slot so they can get all the spotlight And then they can talk about other things afterwards during the official e3 streams Yeah, I I think that that's uh I don't know. I here's the thing like we don't know what the actual esa schedule is And it's highly possible that nintendo could be part of that schedule still as well It could do developer interviews for already announced games Like I could I could see like as an example mario golf super rush getting featured before that final day And an interview kind of setting or something like that or a gameplay setting with draig miller and the and the hosts and all that is a possibility Um, I I think it's going to be interesting to do as well just for e3 in general Obviously, how much of it's actually live and how much of it's all pre-recorded We're assuming a lot of the press conferences are pre-recorded But then you have all this the hosts and all that is all that pre done ahead of time Uh and and pre done and not actually live is tree house even going to be live Like or is it all going to be pre-recorded? Uh, that's something to consider as well Because one thing that was always kind of cool about nintendo tree house at least in my opinion was Every now and then they would acknowledge a couple comments from the live chat, right? They would kind of bring them up. They would cherry they had people off camera cherry picking You know a very family friendly comment That would probably make people laugh or at least they thought would make people laugh Usually I got to say they're probably they're pretty lame But I guess, you know, they got to consider they might have kiddos watching so they got to keep it They got to keep it put on the download. We don't got to do that here at nintendo prime, but um You guys will be leaving comments that i'm sure i'll read off that your children probably shouldn't be present for Oops So yeah, I I think i'm okay with the tuesday That is obviously the safe date if there was any safe bet to make for e3 Bet they go on the same day at the same time they've been doing every single e3 as far back as I can remember Um, I think the only reason people thought they might go sooner is one microsoft is on sunday Um, so they're you know and microsoft's gone early before but they're on sunday e3 itself starts on a weekend, uh, and You know press cover says we've had like go on weekends before but we we don't have an actual like show to look at um After the fact we don't have an expo. So You know, there's some thought process that maybe nintendo would do it different Plus just the whole fact. We don't know a lot about nintendo games, and I think we're just impatient Um, but hey, we have a date. We have a time We it's 40 minutes. It's they're calling it a nintendo direct No digital event. No nothing just straight up a nintendo direct three hours of gameplay. Let's let's see some games That's what I'm excited for And the thing is like it's starting to take shape like it was just announced today as well digital devolver Is doing their little shindig on the opening day of e3 Which guys if you guys have not seen devolver. I said digital. I think it's devolver digital Either way, yeah, they they put on one of they put on one of the best e3 shows every single year Even if you don't like the games the show is extremely entertaining Uh, so yeah the storyline which is yes It's like it's like a mini movie. Yeah, and it like continues year to year to year But yeah, if you didn't see prior ones, you could still kind of get what's going on And i'm telling you guys they're going to set the bar up here And we'll see if anyone else can really match it obviously people are really going to be looking at microsoft Really going to be looking at um nintendo, but obviously there's ubi soft air square enix is having a having a presence as well Uh, you know, there's going to be other companies that haven't announced yet Sega and wb and are they going to do like a combo events or are they just going to have like individual announcements throughout the event? um Basically, there should be something fun going on at all times and if there isn't We'll have something fun going on here to make up for the fact that maybe just maybe we got to put it this way I don't trust the esa to create a consistently entertaining show all digital for four straight days because um, Let's just be honest We can't even trust the individual game companies Making press conferences to keep them consistently entertaining for all the days that we have press conferences So if the companies can't do it, I don't know how the esa is going to pull it off Maybe it will be and then we'll be stuck extra streaming five hours after every single one to do all our giveaways and all our competitions Because it is so entertaining and we have to do it, but Uh, yeah, let's eric. What are your thoughts on this? Are you fine with the day at the time? Are you hoping they went sooner? No, I'm not surprised at all. It's nintendo nintendo is going to nintendo and I'm totally not caught off guard by this and yeah, that's What else to is there to say? I mean it it it's really nintendo is going to nintendo 5j you got any additional thoughts? Yeah, they I think they like to be the showstopper You know, I think that they are like so good at building hype You know, even if the games don't always deliver They out there the masters of the 01 last thing So they really really like that last slot so that they can Throw that out there and then they're the last bit of hype Post e3 where everyone goes well nintendo just stole the show Did they I don't know it could have just been the last exciting thing that you heard And so that's what's sticking in your mind the most But they are very good at building that hype so Unless what they announce isn't good stuff. I think the time slot's great. I'm excited for it I think what's also important to consider is Nintendo has always teased something usually when they announce their e3 is something There hasn't been any teasing which tells me that we might have more teasing coming up Uh, we might have a big announcement coming up as well, but we might have actual games teased Maybe from that announcement that turned into e3 to find out more kind of thing Um, so before we get into the switch pro stuff because I think we could end up talking about that for hours and hours and hours Because there's just so much to talk about Uh, let's just briefly go over just some realistic expectations for what we're going to see out of nintendo at e3 Since this is the big day that we've been waiting a month for basically for them to finally tell us When are they actually going to tell us about their e3 stuff? So let's uh, let's go to 5j because I haven't heard from you in ages, man What will give give me some realistic expectations for nintendo at e3 this year? Ah, well gee, I've uh, I've been a little out of the loop. So, uh, hopefully I got something for you Um, I think when they're talking about mostly 2021 stuff and it's great and everything But then that means for sure they're saying something outside of 2021 I I don't know what everyone's consensus is around when Breath of the Wild is releasing But to me that seems like the obvious choice for something that's probably coming out next year that they would definitely be talking about Uh during e3 this year um I wouldn't Realistic is a is a hard tag on there because you know, we always go wild with our thoughts I just want to hear them say something about Metroid something good. I don't want to hear anymore I always started over again. Now we need to hire new, you know top level management on the game I just want to hear that they are making progress Okay, that they didn't scrap the project. I don't know if that's realistic or not um And then a lot of my stuff is all just like I just want a new f0. I just wanted it. You know what I mean, so It's a little you know, okay project. Give us your wishlist. Come on. Okay. I mean We already know about spiltoon 3. That's great. That's awesome. But what about arms too? I really enjoyed arms. I don't know what you guys but it was like they they thought let's make a punch out game But let's really go nuts with it. So I really want to see what else they can do with arms So arms too big on my wishlist. I definitely want to see that um All the dead franchises obviously, you know f0 and Like pilot wings advanced wars that kind of stuff would be great But honestly, I really want to see them come up with a new ip again Because whenever they make something new like spiltoon and arms and stuff. It's so creative So yes, looking forward to zelda and metroid and Donkey Kong, you know, we haven't heard that in a while kind of things in star fox But I really want to see some new ip something Something let me ask you a question. How would you feel? if monolith soft announced a new ip like what would you sort of expect from them besides zeno blade obviously Well, I big fan is zeno blade. So I would definitely be excited. I'd be here. I mean, I'm gonna assume it'd be an rpg And nintendo doesn't have a ton of rpg under their belts, you know, like we had golden sun and that was awesome, but ds last time we saw one of those and that took a big break since its uh gba releases before that So I would love to see Some sort of new rpg come and if monolith is making something other than an rpg That's perhaps even more intriguing. What are they gonna come up with? They're a great developer in my book. So I would love that Yeah, I think they have their I think whatever they do is gonna be for sure like pretty sick Absolutely, especially if they harness You know the the horsepower of the system, of course, we're all like switch pro switch pro We'd love to see monolith really take a switch pro and push it to the limits, but Anything they do would be great Yeah, um other than that, I mean you're gonna see a little bit of splatoon 3 you're gonna see a little bit of You know, hopefully again a new ip like like everybody else said here. That's uh, that would be amazing. Um Yeah, I mean I I just maybe more zelda. I mean more actual releases of like a remake of ocarina time uh Majora's mask things like that That would be awesome. Um, because I'm again now really fully getting into the into the games of zelda so I want to start playing most of them I'd like to really see but again, this is probably not going to come from nintendo This is probably going to come more from ubisoft, but a mario plus rabbit kingdom battle 2 That's something I want to see or a some sort some sort of rabbits game um Whether it's mario, whether it's a different character, whether it's Something along the lines of that, but that would be awesome to see as well Yeah, I you know, I think uh I think it's important that A lot of the things you talked about definitely I feel like are happening There's been some low rumblings out there about a mario plus rabbit kingdom battle 2 The first one sold extremely well. Everyone seems happy about it. And the team behind it was uh very Very passionate about that project. They were they were very much, uh, I mean the guy literally cried When miimoto came on stage with yuzugimon because it it it's just Such a big deal to them because they look up to to someone like i mean who doesn't look up to someone like sugar miimoto He made almost every game developer's childhood um So it's just Amazing to think that we could get another one like that I obviously would like to see them maybe expand a little bit beyond that I mean, I've always wanted like a zelda and rabbits or a metroid and rabbits or like, I don't know Like I don't know how metroid would even work because I don't know how rabbits They could slap rabbits in anything and I'd probably be happy. I actually like the rabbits Um, not everybody I know is a big fan of rabbits, but You know when it when it comes to the nintendo, I guess from my side of things You know, I think there's some basic expectations you can have that are probably pretty safe Will vcs platoon 3 again Probably maybe they did announce it this year. It looked pretty far along just based on their initial announcement It definitely wasn't like a metroid prime 4 logo teaser. Um, it actually showed what looked like potential gameplay Maybe I know they said, you know in engine or whatever, but it kind of looked like it was potential gameplay So that is definitely something that you know, could we see more of that? Especially with early 2022. Absolutely And obviously, you know, you mentioned at the beginning and you know, my audio is muted for a brief moment obviously breath of the wild too I I think everyone in their mother expects to see this game because we haven't seen it in two years and aji anom is said Oh, yeah, well, well, we need a little bit more time. We'll tell you about it later this year Well, it's later this year Uh, and we still haven't heard about it and it's zeldas 35th anniversary And yeah, scourge story. She is great and I'm sure we're going to see that That's like a guarantee they'll show another trailer or at least play it on treehouse if nothing else but it's like but Breath of the wild too. You can't just keep hiding that from us. The last one sold 23 million copies on switch alone on switch alone You can't like you can't all the zelda fans know like, okay. Yeah, it's gonna overshadow It already overshadowed skyward store just because we know it exists right So it's like just just fill the beans at least a trailer I yeah, I want it to be really like I kind of expect a trailer and a release date or a release year Like if they say 2022 fine not what I want to hear But whatever at least give me an expectation of when we can maybe play the game potentially Even if that expectation is like an 18 month window or whatever. I don't know just I just want to see the game again. I want a new trailer And what's always interesting is a lot of things in the initial zelda reveal trailers Don't actually make it into the final game Um, so it's kind of curious to see like Did that stuff from the initial reveal trailer? Is that like like seemed very story heavy Is that stuff gonna be It's still in the game or did they completely change directions? What if it's like a twilight princess situation, right? Remember when we saw like that early early footage for twilight princess It was what an e3 2004 trailer and then when the game came out 2006 two and a half years later Similar sort of window there A lot of things that were in that initial trailer were all gone. It's almost like a different game So, uh, yeah, it'll be interesting to see what we actually see Yeah, and the thing is like even you don't have to go by that like breath of the wild The initial reveal trailer for that the entire overworld landscape changed from what we saw on that reveal trailer. It's like, okay Cool, what's happening now? Is this stuff you told me about my theory? Oh boy, the initial breath of the wild trailer. Nope. Let's go. Let's hear. Oh boy. Let's hear. Here we go It's not okay. It's more of a more of a fun idea. Okay. Um, and I think there's some truth to it But not like 100 true. So the initial Zelda u trailer, right? Remember. Oh, what was it? Um e3 2014 ad noob was like on a green screen, right? And He like they he was talking about the the conventions and foundations of zelda and then he pops on that that big sprawling world with the mist in the mountains and the green hills and he's like beautiful, right? Or something like that and then we see the guardian come out of nowhere and chase link and then he sort of popped off the hood And then everyone thought it was a girl, but it never was that trailer. Yeah um That that's what you were talking about and like that Was it wasn't really what we got in breath of the wild like a lot changed sort of since then Now resolute like there are obviously some things done in terms of like aesthetic choices and such that make breath of the wild Look really good But there is a lot going on in that world that isn't in breath of the wild Like the villagers and the way the mist was working in with the mountains and the coloring and the lighting And the windmills and things that nature like it almost seemed like a world that wasn't necessarily like a Apocalyptic or post apocalyptic high rule seemed like a free apocalyptic high rule almost so My thinking is that with breath of the wild too. They will have had the time and the resources to kind of Have choose to not make a post apocalyptic high rule but a high rule that has more of a living breathing environment perhaps with villagers and Like little sheeps like grazing the hills and obviously more graphical effects like that really cool fog and mist they had It was it's a different world. So I just kind of wonder if like with breath of the wild too. There perhaps to get closer to that initial vision they had And obviously we presented better perhaps with higher resolutions and things that nature and more in there But it's just kind of interesting when you take a look at the w trailer There are a lot of things that they perhaps suggested they wanted to do Some of it was accomplished, but not entirely everything was accomplished. For example, the environments were destructible We have it to some extent, but like you can't like break bridges. You can't break stone monuments What if in breath of the wild too you can't so I'm just saying like I feel like there are some ideas They were playing around with at the time that they weren't able to actually execute with the initial breath of the wild But with breath of the wild too They just might so that's my sort of idea about the initial zelda view trailer Yeah, I honestly that that's all that makes a lot of sense to me Um, I've always had a lot of wild speculation about all of the zelda games that get these trailers to announce them But then we don't really see anything after uh, or don't see a lot of those additional I mean, you know, you brought up the twilight princess one I mean gosh did that not just look like an out of this world zelda game big giant epic open field battles Uh, and then, you know, obviously being able to explore a dense and mysterious forest and walking through none of that happens in the game Uh, it it it's like a bunch of ideas they had that they just for one reason or another Couldn't actually realize as they got deeper into development. Um, but a great teaser I mean, that's why the princess teaser was one of the greatest moments in e3 history Which is which is You're crazy when we think about we're heading into another e3. What's going to be that moment this year? What's going to be that moment that captures everyone because breath of the wild too? It's kind of that expected thing But can they still wow us with it? Can they still do like it was a while when they announced the sequel was coming two years ago? Because like hey dlc just happened not that long ago And a sequel but then okay, it's still been a couple years Okay, so it still was a couple years away, you know two three years away, so We'll see we'll see what what that's going to do what that's going to be. Um to 5j's hopes and dreams man I do think we are going to see uh Symmetroid, I don't know what I don't know if it's for prime trilogy if we're going to finally get a teaser for prime 4 even if they even if they Disapp here's the problem. Here's the problem I'm going to tell you guys right now if they give us a teaser for prime 4 But they say 2023 on it which I think would be like worst-case scenario at the end they go 2023 I don't even care Because I saw it and I know it exists and that's what I need to know right now They announced this thing in 2017 and rebooted development halfway through. I need to just know it exists Okay, oh great retro studios is hiring all these big towns, but okay. I need to see the game Yeah, like I don't care if it's still years away. Let me know it's real Don't just give me another title splash screen Show me even if it's just like a 15 second tease where metroids going up against ridley or something It's just this epic thing and it just looks completely different And so much more improved graphically than we've seen with other metro prime games and your your minds getting blown All of a sudden you get like this little heartbeat to do to do 2023. Yeah, that sucks But it's also at least we know the games actually being made Now right, I think I think 2d Metroid. I think it's something that's actually going to happen for legit. Awesome. Yes, it's been mercury steam did the samus returns remake It seems to be out there that nintendo has likely tabbed them again They liked what they did with samus returns. They didn't like the sales of samus returns And nintendo I think internally realized well the sales of samus returns sucked because switch was out and in hindsight We probably should have pushed this game over to switch in hd and it probably would at least performed On the level of like a yoshi game or a kirby game. It could it probably would have did okay Um, you know not definitely better than that did on 3ds at the time. They just bombed on 3ds. I do love it though um, so Uh, that is something that I do expect them to have some sort of 2d metro game and and that's why I wonder Are they're going to be like, okay, give us the disappointing news that it's 2023 for Metroid Prime 4 But then be like, but hey while you wait We do have a new Metroid thing for you You know, yes, so so again and now 2023 by his worst-case scenario I I think if they show it, it'll be 2022. I mean if it is 2023 like you say It gives credence to my thought process that next year's e3 is Metro themed Well, if it's well, here's the thing if next if Metroid Prime Metroid Prime 4 could be a 2022 game We'd be coming up towards the holidays which would be a bit shocking because Metroid is not a big seller So for Nintendo to push it as a holiday title would be a shocker Oh, maybe they're trying to boost it a little bit. So having it as like we'll see e3 game I'll say this If it gets announced that samus is going to fortnite Which has been a leaked document from that court case going on and that actually it gets announced that e3 Okay, then I believe that the nintendo is actually trying to push on that for a moment So what's interesting about that right and it's all public information right because we got that document, right? Yeah Have you noticed that things that were in that document even though they didn't come out at the time suggested within the document They have still come to fruition to some extent like obviously we knew we saw the the cradle thing and um Master chief thing but that was already a known quantity by the time we got the document But there were other things in there that now have become a reality for example There was batman batman was added to fortnite. There was um LeBron James and other NBA players added to the game now It isn't specifically LeBron James, but for the playoffs they added a whole bunch of NBA players And there is one model that looks similar to the model they were using to emulate LeBron James. So There's a little it's almost a pattern here a lot of characters that were in that document It didn't seem like we'd maybe get them right could have been could have talked it up to oh They were planned but cancelled they came so is it possible that samus is another one of those characters that Didn't come out as at the time that perhaps wanted it But will eventually come once the time is ready to announce Metroid Maybe there was also that that weird thing. I saw gamics playing copper a couple weeks ago There was like this fortnite concept art that had various characters and there was one that had like a silhouette that looked like samus Not saying it's for sure it was for sure meant to be samus But it was certainly a character that had those big broad variety of suit shoulders So You know, there's there's some hope here. I think a lot actually Oh, yeah, there's definitely There's definitely hope so well, we'll see what happens with that and also speaking of those documents that you brought them up This isn't necessarily I think going to get announced at nintendo's thing I think there's going to be a jump on this in those documents nintendo redacted certain details about contract negotiations between microsoft and nintendo Over xcloud coming to their system that was redacted by nintendo So we don't even know the exact words But it was they had when you redact something has to say what company requested the redaction and what the reasons were And it was nintendo who requested it and the reason was because it it reveals details of ongoing talks between microsoft and nintendo My thing is and obviously we know about the switch being in the background of a bunch of microsoft things a major microsoft event It literally was prominent next to the xbox series x and the xbox series s almost like it was microsoft system, but it's not Uh, which to me means one of the very first big announcements for switch might not even happen at microsoft Or at nintendo's conference, but at microsoft instead where they announced that xcloud is coming to nintendo switch And i can see nintendo letting them announce that because xcloud is microsoft's baby. Yeah Right And like that would be that would be a huge get if they announce it I mean and imagine if they announce that and somehow game pass is going to come later down the line to it as well That just guys halo infinite On your switch even if you gotta plug it and by the way, you know if a switch grows a thing and it has an ethernet port Uh, that's just going to make xcloud that much better. So I mean Oh man, I just the dreams the dreams there Uh, there's going to be other nintendo announcements as well before nintendo's stuff Uh, because ubi soft is probably going to have something uh all the traditional third party companies that that bring games over capcom It's going to have a thing going on. So they'll they'll they'll have some announcements as well And like the idea If the xcloud does come to switch up playing like for example the new perfect art that's in development on a nintendo switch Yes That makes it makes sense right and maybe we could play it There's other obviously other rare games that have already been like made For example, there's a relatively recent killer instinct. I would love to get play that like It would just be interesting to see some of these Rare ip that haven't been nintendo be playable on switch via xcloud Especially if you can play them in 4k thanks to the switch pro like that would just be a beauty And I I don't know. I feel like it's not We don't know yet, right but What could possibly make sense in terms of Hype levels like if you look at how they've been teasing it This is bigger than just a singular sort of like or report, right? There's there's something more to it Than that It may be it may just be like a bigger game release Like maybe like a master chief collection, which would be still like crazy awesome But you know xcloud Given that they were like presenting the switch in the background for multiple official xbox streams when we know this company officially Like in an official capacity has told us that they tease things in their backgrounds It's it's being framed as if switch is like another part of the family of systems for xbox games So when you when you look at it in that way, that's how they sort of presented in their streams in the background Maybe they are teasing xcloud, right? That would just I think I'm excited at the possibility of it But I'm not assuming it because you know potential disappointment I mean the other thing it could be though too is we all think it's xcloud and they all want us to think it's xcloud But it turns out it's like halo or something coming to to switch and that's that That would still be huge Halo or like master chief and smash or something like that That would be big enough But I feel like if you're putting the switch prominently in the background On equal levels with your system, right, right? There's something it's on equal level with your system with I just find it I just think it'd be funny as hell if it's all just a giant troll scheme. No, no Infinite it's halo wars three It wrote Yes Thanks for coming on 5j click gone and click Yeah, so obviously, uh, you know, I metroid zelda. I I kind of think those a little bit safe Maybe it's between three uh some other, you know, maybe safe ones. There's something coming from the mario team I know doki Kong's been kind of the rumored thing that maybe that team's been working on I know maybe they split off and made a whole new team Maybe that's going to be dedicated the doki kong moving forward So it's doki kong's 40th anniversary. It's one of the games that really got nintendo kicked off into massive video game success Yeah, they had the color tv before it They had the game and watches and the other types of video game platforms out there But really success began with doki kong and the arcades. That's what took off That's what put nintendo on the map as a video game maker because nintendo was a toy company a half lunatic card company Uh, so they made a bunch of that stuff and you know It kind of felt like their color tv and their handheld devices at that time We're just extensions of them being a toy company and then when doki kong came along it was like next level Okay, people really like this. Maybe we should really lean into this whole new video game Arcade thing made me make a home console that doesn't just have the games already pre-packaged on it Let the color tv and give you guys a way to load your own games in hence the cartridges and all that jazz so um It's interesting uh that doki kong's 40th this year and while never been a massive seller They have had some sell up in the eight nine million in the old country series Uh that I think he's going to get some attention I don't know if it's going to be a new game like spend rumored and reported out there by by several different leakers Or if it's going to end up being like, you know a doki kong 40 And we're going to play the arcade game in the same way we played mario 35 or the same way we play tetris 99 and all that stuff like Or pac-man 99 which is also really good. So it could just be one of those as well because that could take it back to its roots It could be that and something else as well. You can't can't dismiss that Um, and obviously them trying to somehow make nintendo switch online seem like a good prospect I don't think they've done a great job of that, but You know to each their own on that one, uh, I I that's the thing like that's all like my safe bets because I don't really know what they're going to do We we could go dive deep into all the rumors that have been out there, but even some of the rumors don't sound crazy So like what is the crazy game they're going to announce that we don't know about that's going to blow our minds I don't know like what is going to be that game? I mean if they show metroid prime 4 that would obviously blow some people's minds because I don't think people are Realistically expecting that to be shown Maybe not as shocking because it's been revealed before but also We don't think we're going to see like we see bayonetta 3 is anyone going to be surprised that we see bayonetta 3 I mean Probably not that game's been in development by platinum games a company that knows the ip founded the ip is very good at making that ip They keep saying development's going well and the only reason they haven't revealed or said anything is because nintendo's not letting them so Obviously the game's going well and whenever they're ready to show it is going to be probably closer to the time nintendo wants to release it So It's a situation where there's going to be a surprise game Whether it's for 2022 whether it's for this year. I don't know and what's that surprise game going to be? Is it going to be a mario kart 9? You know, is it going to be like it's going to be something big? I just don't know what and I don't know if it's this year or next year because mother for Oh, no No, don't do this to me five days. They said never never making another mother a game again Well, can we get mother three at least? No? Reggie hey reggie get out of here. No, no, we're gonna get Reggie. I don't need you to father one with your laser eyes Yeah, we're gonna get father one the regenerator Um, so yeah, I don't know like those are kind of like my I guess semi-realistic Basically, you know, you're gonna see breathable to some sort of metroid game I think a little bit of this between three probably a smash character reveal Maybe even a ghost drop shadow drop That's going to be like released later that day or something because that has happened with smash characters before potentially Both of the last ones could get revealed But I feel like they're Going to try to milk that last one for as long as they can and reveal that later this year september october or something like that um And now there's going to be a big game that uh You know we got none of us saw coming it's going to come completely out of left field And hopefully it's a game that really really excites. I mean it could be in arms too because people don't really expect that But is that because it really drive the hype as like Something else maybe it's the new monolith soft ip that we don't even know what this thing is Maybe that blows our mind like we can't wait. This is a nintendo game I thought like this looks like a vowed from xbox. How the hell is this on a nintendo platform? Oh wait This is exclusive. This is not like just something that just blows our mind And that's what it could be because after all shinter fork I was said nintendo is focusing on new ip's moving forward So that is something to look forward to that. Maybe that big announcement will be a new ip Um, that'd be it. So let's toss it over to andre. What are your realistic expectations for nintendo ad3? um very question I just want to pull something up real quick here because I like kind of looking at nintendo's tweets Um, all right. I got it. All right, cool. So they say tune in for an internal direct with roughly 40 minutes of info focused exclusively on nintendo switch software Mostly releasing in 2021 followed by around three hours a game But I just kind of like, you know, kind of framing that in my mind. Um, firstly when they say 40 minutes of info focused exclusively on the nintendo switch software I don't think that means That all the software in this direct will be exclusive to nintendo switch because I saw some sort of speculating on that Yeah, that's not what I think it means. It didn't say exclusive nintendo software. It said switch software It just means that they're not going to talk about 3ds Yeah, or like or mobile games mobile games. That's the big game or mobile games, right? So if you thought they're going to like it out the zelda correct like a zelda mobile game not going to happen You want hardware specs not going to happen But this is the interesting thing, right? Um By saying that they're implying other things The fact that they feel the need to specify exclusively on nintendo switch software That does imply that there are other options, right? But what's also interesting about that is when you consider that historically speaking they never talk about mobile games in Their big directs during the summer It's not even worth mentioning that they've never done it before Well, they're probably gone that wording I've been staring at that wording all day because we have a massive switch pro conversation about to come up I think it's a it's a clear hint to me that It's going to be announced and we want to let people know that just because we announce it before e3 doesn't mean we're talking about it They might show switch pro enhanced games because they they can show games that are enhanced by switch That's fine pro is a switch So it is a switch, but they're saying if we if we announce it basically the software not Yeah, if we announce the hardware and you want more details, you're not going to get more details on it at this event So they're kind of like setting you up for hey, even if we drop this We might show off games for it. We're not going to show off specs We're not going to tell you any extra features it has that'll be at a later event before it comes out But let me kind of beforehand all of it. Yeah But let me kind of just continue my train of thought here, right? So like when I read that Yeah, they're talking about software, but my secondary thoughts are okay They're implying there's other things beyond that just not at this direct and they feel need to specify that because There are things surrounding this direct like potentially the switch pro, right? But it's also happy that the other interesting thing here. Well, there's several Mostly releasing in 2021 So I know A lot of people and this is the majority at this point Um majority of people who are I would consider intelligent people Um are speculating Breath of the Wild 2 for 2022. So when they see mostly releasing 2021 I think a lot of people jump to okay Breath of the Wild 2 2022 like for example Are you 5 day right now? You're sort of thinking that maybe more likely 2022, which I think is a safe expectation You are saving yourself from potential disappointment. Good, right? But when you consider that we already know about two huge major likely 10 plus million selling Pokemon um internal games are slated for 2022 What is that really saying so so two and three slated for 2022 legends arc is slated for 2022 both these games have Potential to sell 10 plus million copies so If those are two major games coming on 2022 already and those both are likely going to be at e3 And then Breath of the Wild 2 probably Nintendo's biggest game development safe for Metroid Prime 4 is also coming out 2022 And all three of those are showcased at e3. We look at that wording then Does that turn the analogy mostly releasing 2021 still kind of makes sense? You know what I mean Like it's well two and three legends arc is and breath of the wild to take up 50 to 60 of the direct You know or even 40 percent. Is it fair for an internal to still call that mostly releasing in 2021? I'm not sure just something to kind of consider right um Now i'm not saying breath of the wild it's for sure coming out 2021. I that's a big debate I actually have i'm sorry Nate. I'm going to shout a video out But I have a video planned for tomorrow kind of just like going over the entire up and down nature of this debate Um, but that kind of brings me to one of my expectations breath of the wild to we're going to see it here And we're going to know when when it's actually coming out Like if they don't give us a release date for sure the game's coming out next year at the earliest, right? Or they'll give us a release date and We'll know then like that's we're going to get a good understanding when the game is coming during this direct Um, I also think legends arc is will be mentioned There may be a pokemon presents beforehand where we get more details on that But it will at least be mentioned during the direct and there will likely be tree house footage of at least one of the two Pokemon games potentially both and I also expect to see splatoon three. Those are all safe things, right? Um, the other safe thing is there will be at least one smashed DLC character there Um, all of those are kind of like my baseline expectations and I feel like most people would agree with that Um, what I also think is what I also expect I expect to see a metro game like when I say expect like it's um Think with great confidence and actually I'm actually kind of curious what you guys think think of this. Um, how would you define the word? No Define the word no The k n o w. Oh, no, oh um Like an absolute Yeah, so how often your life has someone told you they know something and they end up being wrong? Uh pretty often, but I usually can tell that they don't really know when they say it Right, so that's why I always have a problem with saying no because no really just means think with great confidence so What I'm saying is that I think with great confidence Metroid will be at the e3 show I don't know right because you can never really know but I think with great confidence Metro will be at the e3 show and I'll also say that I think with great confidence That a donkey kong is very deep into development However, I'm not going to make the mental leap to say that for sure donkey kong will be at e3 It could be I think it's a good bet, but I'm not like Nearly as convinced as I am for metroid breath of the wild to splatoon pokemon and smash brothers But it's very it's definitely like a very likely candidate and I I think it's one of those things I could What? No, no, no, you can keep going. We were immunity. There's an issue going on in my community. Oh, okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. Um, Yeah, so those things I kind of donkey kong is Not as likely as all the other things I just mentioned, but it's definitely like right right below in terms of likelihood in my opinion Um, so those are sort of my expectations smash dlc character pokemon will be mentioned breath of the wild to splatoon three Metroid expected and then going beyond that Um, donkey kong has a high likelihood Um, but I wouldn't say I fully expect it a fire emblem remake. I think it has a high likelihood Uh, I would also say a curbie game has a high likelihood All of those are definitely strong candidates at same for bayonet of three as well I think I expect to see bayonet of three to be shown off to some extent at some point During 2021 and e3 is definitely a good place to show that off If not, then then the next options would be a september direct or the game awards So that's definitely one of those likely but not like shoe in in my opinion I'm going beyond that. Um, we could see the monolith soft uip or some sort of new new xenoblade game I feel like there's a chance that nintendo ends the smash team may have been teasing that With the whole rex empire situation going on and how they actually brought in monolith soft the first time ever to actually Work on a smash trailer besides the smash team themselves So there could be something going on with that But it also could just be that they wanted to make it a special situation But you know, definitely a strong chance because they've been working on a game since 2017 We're in 2021. So timing wise that makes sense and on that note The team that they worked on arms 5j, right? They they finished arms back in 2017 They did some to see but now that we're in 2021. They've at least been working on this for about three years or so, right? So They could at least announce it They don't have to come out this year, but they can at least announce what that is It might be an arm sequel. It might be mario kart 9. It might be a new ip It might be a zero. I don't know. Um, but I would I I pray It's just a wish it's just a pure hearted Wish that is it. Um in terms of something else that I think is like Likely is a sequel to mario rata's thing to battle I think ubi stop has been working on the sequel to that for something along those lines and there's a good chance to see how to be three One other thing I want to sort of speak on though in terms of like my expectations um Is that I think we're oh also showing on intensa 5. I don't want to I don't want to miss out on that one And no more updates. No more heroes. No more heroes that'll pop in Also mods trying to rise that will probably get some updates there We've we've I think we speculated on here before right We couldn't use monster hunter as like sort of like another crossover event similar to how we're talking about the fortnight thing for For metroid like imagine they put in ridley, right? Or they put a line off for breath of the wild Like those are all like really cool monsters that they could just put in there They would sort of market either zelda or metroid and will be super super Exciting to like actually do so like maybe there could be some sort of crossover. I've also heard that Capcom really wants to push monster stories too big time. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, that that's another thing to sort of look forward to there Sonic colors we I think we I don't know if we talked about it here But I've been thinking sonic college remaster would be a thing that was confirmed last week, right? So I wouldn't be surprised if that's shown off at least in like a montage trailer But going beyond that I do think the switch pro is probably real Given that bloomberg has reported that your gamer has corroborated that story emily rogers has corroborated that story Jeff grub Like the list kind of goes on like a lot of people all sort of believe this a lot of like credible sources believe This is happening and it's happening before e3. So I also believe it's happening before e3 And I think there's a chance we see it either announced tomorrow or friday And I think the reason why they would have that would happen is because throughout e3 there will be games that will Perhaps be shown off for the switch and not necessarily a nintendo's event Um, and they're just going to be like games that run better on switch pro and that may be mentioned throughout the event So even though nintendo's event itself may not have until the final day Nintendo may still have somewhat of a presence because you're going to see different trailers And you're going to see that little switch logo a lot of different third-party trailers. Um, I don't know if they're going to be exclusive But perhaps they mentioned of like a switch enhanced version or something like that. That's not like an expectation That's more like I would say closer to like the donkey kong level of prediction where I think there's a really good chance We see a lot of switch announcements from third parties throughout e3 that's before nintendo's direct Yeah, absolutely and obviously, um, I think we've held off probably long enough at this point um Switch pro has been kind of the dominant story because we got the e3 announcement from nintendo But they didn't give us even a tease of what's going to be there. It's just software What software what game we it's all speculative at this point. We don't know we could talk about the rumors and expectations But at this point, um, if we're going to talk about rumors and expectations Why don't we talk about the thing that might imminently be upon us at least fighting for pre-orders and whatever else here in the next potential 24 48 hours next week potentially whenever because all this news happened Literally since our like the end of our podcast the very next morning News broke and it's been going non-stop since then So let's just recap at the very beginning to what happened switch posts have been rumored to be coming for years So people have been kind of dismissing a lot of the reports and rumors about it because you know It's been just a lot of trickling smoke for a couple of years. You know, is it really even a real thing? well Takahashi machizuki from Bloomberg just blew it all out of the water when he put up a report last week that said Not only is the switch pro obviously real and he's obviously been the one reporting on it primarily over the years So he obviously thinks it's real anyways He said it's gonna likely be announced before e3 because third-party companies want to show off their switch pro versions of games Uh, and not only that it's releasing In september or october of this year Like that just took average because like big that's takahashi machizuki putting a flip He he by the way, he didn't post this as a report. He didn't post this as a rumor He said this matter of fact like he put his flag on the ground and said this is what's happening And then he recapped prior things he talked about with the seven inch old led screen All that stuff that that's been talked about in the past with switch pro and then things went from there You already mentioned obviously andre that they they had all this other um People come and confirm emily rogers tom phillips from euro gamer. That's someone that you can like hey This is an actual journalist at another big outlet. He came out and said hey, we have our own sources on this They're saying exactly what takahashi machizuki said like to a tea. We're hearing about it before e3 It's it's released in september or october period and the story. That's just what's happening Uh, and then there's been other things that have happened We have a report out of uh vandals over in spain where they apparently were talking to some chinese Manufacturers who are working on accessories for the switch pro because we all know when new systems come out There's always day one accessories And they brought out some extra details that they know about it as they're developing accessories for the system because If they're partnered with nintendo, they would have access to that or if they happen to work in the same factory Maybe they just have the kind of access that chinese manufacturers seem to always have for products so We learned things there too potentially like the fact that instead of the normal kickstand the switch has We're going to get one that's like a surface which is really really cool because that's a way more reliable kickstand and they would put the uh, what should we call it the um Micro sd card underneath that because of course they would Like yeah, like like 5g showed it like of course they would um And then uh other things obviously that the screen is bigger and it basically has no bezel But the actual size of the switch unit itself the tablet doesn't really change They just get rid of the bezel which by the way if you kind of measure diagonally bezel corner to bezel corner It's pretty much seven inches. So yeah, they wouldn't necessarily have to make it bigger to fit that seven inch screen on there Um, they did mention that it was OLED as well Uh, and then there were some other things too. They mentioned that the dock Is basically like the current dock but a little bit thicker in the back This dock will output 4k To specify if there's a micro chip in it that up scales or if the up scales handled by the switch itself But they did say that it is a little bit thicker because they put an ethernet port in there And that is a big get That everyone's wanted to happen because it made no sense that we've had to use a dongle for ethernet Uh, especially since we have usb 3.0 ports that don't run at 3.0 speeds So you're not even getting the most you can out of an ethernet dongle anyways And that's another thing they did say that hey, it's going to have usb 3.0 now Again, they could just be usb 3.0 ports. They don't actually run at usb 3.0 because that's what switch has It doesn't run at those speeds But they technically have the correct port for it to fool you into thinking it's 3.0 But if you actually do speed magic, it's 2.0 That what the connection to the microchips they have on that little tiny board in there It's all 2.0 3.0 is not even possible on the board they put in there. So That's at least some of the more concrete stuff that's kind of been out there from actual journalists and news outlets Then you get into all the crazy stuff All the crazy stuff. Well, when are we going to get this thing? Right? Andre's meant tomorrow potentially maybe friday tomorrow's probably more likely than friday because there's not as much time to announce on friday If they want it to also be announced in japan at the same time Because it's like literally like a little bit into friday for us. It's saturday for japan So there's not that much time On a friday to announce if they want to announce it for japan. We've also heard things like This won't be a worldwide release Europe potentially has to wait until 2022 and they might stagger the release which can't point something out about that sure So i've noticed that a lot of the speculation has sort of pinpointed to september But the window was september and october I personally think that it's a late october thing Because that makes in my mind it makes more sense because if you're gonna have Most of the time then when intent will push this hardware they have a game to come out with it to push it So I think it makes more sense to put out a game that would be a suitable october game similar to luigi's mansion Three in 2019 or mario odyssey in 2017 both years where there was hardware releases by the way It makes more sense for there to be a holiday title coming out around then to support the system Not september in my opinion and when you consider that if it's like a late october release, right at that point it kind of Is not too far from november So if we're looking at more like a two or three week week window where things are sort of staggered I feel like it's not that big of a deal if it comes out like the beginning of september And then in other regions it comes out november then it's more like a two month window and then it's more of a bigger deal, right? So I don't know but for me. I just feel like why jump to speculating that's going to be early september when Part of the window also includes october and late october just makes way more sense Oh, I think uh, yeah, I think a lot of that is just because people want this thing, you know as soon as possible but There's also a lot of thought process out there Uh behind what this thing's going to cost um because regardless of when it's going to be announced, right? Like uh, it was I think it was uh nick from xbox era one of the most popular xbox podcast that put out there Hey, he was here in thursday He knows this was actually supposed to be announced like last week But it got pushed and he said it could get pushed again Uh, it sounds like from other insiders that nintendo's had this reveal trailer done for this thing for a little while I don't know what they're waiting for. Uh, maybe that's because of pokemon presents Or maybe they're waiting to see what the rest of the industry was doing because all of a sudden the sonic thing happened And nintendo doesn't control that so they maybe they wanted a date to themselves Uh, and they were waiting for that day to come Uh, and here it is and obviously everyone is saying the only reason nintendo's even unveiling is because third parties have an asking nintendo Who have the dev unit have been like, hey, we have this big event coming up If you're planning to launch this thing this year, we really want to show Our games in the best possible light on your platform, even if a majority of sales aren't going to happen on that platform this year, obviously, uh, so There is that to consider We also have to look at some of the other things that are happening today on 4chan a best buy listing came out Where it had it called new nintendo switch pro Which I don't look into anything about the naming or anything like that But then they also listed it at three hundred and ninety nine dollars To make it a four hundred dollar product here in the us Um, I think that is something that we have to consider at least as a possibility for the price point at least in the us I don't know what it'll be elsewhere Uh, and it also leads you to believe that obviously it's probably a kind of beefy If they're going to increase the price by that much now again This is a best buy listing on 4chan. It is something that I look at it and I go It does look real because I've seen the back end system of best buy because I've worked there and everything about what they showed Looks real to me and that is like people some people like oh Why is it a cell phone pick because you can't take a print screen and get it off the computer? You'll get fired. You're not allowed to do that kind of crap. You're not even supposed to take cell phone pictures So, uh, and what I do know since working at best buy is the only way those listings get put in the system isn't by best buy It's by distributors distributors inject into their system to get listings ready. So I don't know what that means, but that is something as well. There's been other retailers Uh, maybe walmart canada. Obviously there's been a listing out in amazon mexico. Also. Hey 5j Yeah, I want to turn your mic down a little bit the uh, uh, your fridge is coming through non-stop If I could I'd say something Is that better? I still hear it. Yeah, I still hear it Sorry for the brief pause here. I know I'm sure there's people in the chat being like what's going on with that buzzing? That's 5j fridge I don't have a fridge in my room. Oh better better. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we have a mini fridge in ours, but it like never makes noise Yeah, I don't know. It's weird ever. I don't even work it. I don't want it. It's cold. It's somehow cold I don't know if it ever runs, but it's somehow cool. It wasn't audible at first. Now. It's just kind of randomly Like still now well when you talk I expect to hear it, but yeah, don't say anything now Yeah, it's good. It's good. Yeah, you're at a good level now. You're good. Yeah, you gotta find that perfect balance. Yeah Yeah, that's what sucks about the blue yet. It doesn't it doesn't block out the background. That's interesting What cats that they haven't heard any buzzing. So that's good. Well, they could just be audio on our end Well, you know, you know, you want to know why they're not hearing any buzzing Um, because the the sound that they're plugged into on the computer. I have a filter turned on Oh, fair enough that so that that filter is probably cutting out is buzzing. Cool. But So good. Hey, hey, I guess we didn't have to have that brief pause. All right back to our regular kind of program. Um So, uh, yeah, I so we have all the retailer listings starting to potentially pop up getting ready to take free orders It it sounds like from all avenues This thing is expecting to be 399 at least retailers are expecting this thing to be a hundred dollars more than the current switch Uh, big thing takahashi much as he says it is going to eventually replace the base model switch not now He said slow phase out if you think about it, they're not even launching this thing worldwide So it's going to be a very slow phase out. You're going to be able to still get the og switch They're still going to be making that thing for another couple years. I wouldn't even worry about oh, what are they going to stop? Yeah, in the waning years, they're going to stop making it and you're only going to have pro models like that's That that in the light like that's just what what it's going to be Um, and the thing is, you know, I don't I don't want to get into that speculation I was about to say, you know, is there even going to be a next gen or is it just going to be a continuous Upgrading of devices, but uh, we'll talk about that in a bit. First. I just want to get eric My man, okay switch pro couple things couple things one Are you excited to are you going to buy a day one with me three? Three three What is one game you're most excited to see enhanced by your new device? Well the first two, how are they even questions? Yes and yes so Let's just throw those out because absolutely i'm i'm Getting a day one and are you sure you're going to be going to pre-order and that's a real question Well as long as I can you know, what's saying you can get a pre-order Please please What do you got? What do you got new connections at nintendo now? No connections at game stop. Oh Okay, I'm guarantee that they're doing in star pre-orders. I don't even think that's like a yeah Oh, no, they're good. They're going to do in star. So One game that I'd like to see enhanced enhanced um Anton enhance. Yeah um Let's see I mean, I just got done playing or I'm in the middle of playing marion rabbits kingdom battle that'd be awesome But I don't think that's ever gonna be upgraded um I got an easy one Yeah The greatest game of all time breath of the wild breath of the wild in 60 fps. I was I was trying not to go there How why why would you want to go there? Well, because that's like a That chip in I mean that that's just like I left it there for the taking I think would make a lot of sense to be enhanced. Um, and according to samus hunter, it's happening, but we'll see That's xeno blade and I'm referring specifically to xeno blade chronicles 2 I really feel like That game would benefit so much from an enhancement because if you remember Xeno blade chronicles 2 especially when it came out, there's been some patches of smooth things up a little bit But especially when you play in handheld mode It's like a gritty mess. I love the game But it's a gritty mess in handheld mode and even um when docked the resolution leaves something to be desired But the thing is the game has such beautiful worlds There's so many really cool graphical techniques that are actually happening in the game There's a lot of advanced stuff happening in the game It's just a switch and the way it's optimized does not run it really really well So on switch pro with a switch enhancement, maybe 4k Perhaps the lighting's sort of fixed up a little bit and the frame rates improved like the game would just look amazing Like there's a beautiful game there. It's still beautiful But it would just look far better if they were to simply just bump with the resolution And with a couple other little things this game could be one of the best looking games on switch so that's kind of like What i'm sort of pulling for to be um improved upon but uh Nate while I have everyone's attention because everyone in the chat's been sort of asking about this for a while And I kind of want to talk about it too Um, you know, you know um mvg, right? Yep Modern vintage gamer tweeted something at 10 o 5 p.m. So like 30 minutes ago for me Um, he said you want to just read it out loud. You want to you want to check it out yourself. Uh You go ahead go for it. You got the stage. It's simple. Um, nintendo fans tomorrow prepare for disappointment Oh So everyone in the chat is sort of taking this to mean I'm gonna assume The worst of the worst and you know prepare yourself for disappointment I get it because you don't want to be disappointed. So you're disappointed by preparing yourself for disappointment But what do you sort of make of what mvg is saying here? All right, so to get into the mvg stuff just for a brief moment I want to note mvg is like a co-host regular with uh, Nate the hate directory games and his podcast And literally he spent the entire last podcast trying to tell Nate and all the audience that switch pro doesn't even exist So the bottom line is he doesn't even think this system is real So of course he's going to stay prepared for disappointment because he thinks the whole thing is all fake news Meanwhile, Nate the hate is sitting there making Promises that it's going to happen that he knows Somebody making a game for it right now and that it's going to get announced before e3 So I take it as mvg is either one trolling and about to have a lot of fun and laugh Or two, uh, he legitimately is just going to keep that train going of switch pro. Is it real? You're going to keep being disappointed. He's going to laugh every single day that it's not unveiled He's not someone that believes in the platform So you shouldn't really care what he has to say and you would know that if you actually listen to Nate hates podcasts Which you absolutely should even if you don't like him as an industry insider He does bring up some very good conversational points And this was one of them and this is where we found out that mvg literally just thinks it's just all hubbub Before we get into a little bit more here. There's been a few a handful of super chats here I want to make sure we get to one that happened way back earlier in the stream from taker 610 Thank you so much for the two dollars I was waiting for this one because he says was the light and red box revision shadow dropped normally When people think of shadow dropped it means like oh, it's like announced and releases today I don't think that's what you were meant though because that clearly was not the case with either of those devices I think what you meant was did nintendo announce a date that they were going to talk about it? No They just literally dropped it. Here you go. Here's switch light come go get it, you know, and however, you know Have them many days. So that's what they did. They also did that with the red box revision Um all revision consoles. They don't do it if actually if you think about it in nintendo's history They don't tell you when they're going to announce systems. They just do it Right. It's very rare that they let you know ahead of time switch was a rare thing where they said, oh nx we had an analogy nx at at e3 Breath of the wild is going to be a launch game on nx But we're not even telling you what the hell that thing is see you later this year But they're in a bad way at that point. Yeah, so that those ones super chat Let me scroll on down here because I know there is I'm way behind in the chat. So I'm sorry. I'm not reading the current chat So let me jump down. I know there was a few other super chats that popped up since then Here we go. So Justin Beal. I was just want to let people know or just in basil. Sorry Thank you for the three dollars. Hey, everyone hit that like button. We got almost 500 people watching 350 likes, I think right right, um, let's see here, uh, maryck ackini did uh, two something I'm not sure what currency that is And it said there won't be a Rel title EU is getting the pro later. That is exactly what is being reported out there that Europe will be Getting it in like 2022, which would make a lot of sense. I think in general Because look at the situation with stock right now with everything You know if Nintendo doesn't view this as a quintessential item that you have to own but they also know it's going to be sold out Then they might as well worry about trying to get Getting control of the stock situation before they launch it worldwide because it's just going to be a shit show Launching it worldwide otherwise, and I'm just going to see if there was any other That would be a super chance. I mean, I don't think so. So I think we're is what you're looking for Oh, uh, and Merrick Ickini also had a $2 or to whatever currency that is and he did mention that Breath of the Wild 2 won't Be at E3. So that's his expectation All right, um, so yeah, so we went through like all the stories up to now I want to throw this at 5j like we haven't talked in a long time. Have a talk about switch pro and Got ages a year real so I mean he hasn't obviously you guys know I have I Want to get your thoughts right now like what do you think about all this craziness? Is it even something you're interested in do you honestly think it's gonna get announced before e3? What a weird time to announce a system right a system that they apparently don't even plan to talk about it e3 What are your thoughts on all this stuff? Well, I I definitely see having a lot more of that consistency of Of the rumors feels it feels much better to me than the last time we talked Which I remember how long ago that was but you know these rumors been going on for so long I think a lot of it was just optimism, but this feels like it's not optimism anymore This feels like real insider stuff now It before there was like this talk of like oh, it's super premium. It's like aluminum shell and like oh, man But if we're just talking about same form factor better features that sounds super Nintendo to me Just dropping system or announcements for systems out of nowhere. It's very Nintendo to me I think it's completely possible. It's 2021 four years have gone by It's so weird to me that they actually have made so few revisions in this amount of time We have a light And we have a version with a better battery But it's not even you know, it's it's really the same thing. So yeah, we'll mark it as a newer vision Right. They would just they just put it out was never once marketed like oh come get the better battery version It was just like oh we can see now here. This has better battery life must be new So we're totally overdue totally overdue, you know, we're used to having their portable systems get like a new revision every year so Yeah, I think this it finally feels like it's going to happen Before e3 They do seem to be being very coy and suspiciously quiet There's been plenty of occasions in the past where Nintendo has outright said we're not talking about hardware So don't expect it and they're not doing that right now They're saying yeah, we're gonna talk about switch software only Okay, well also a lot of me topia posts Yeah, I'm gonna be hoping cute ponies and GB characters everywhere every time you check the thread that tells which pro No, this is another me topia pony. Enjoy. Hey, yeah, they got nothing to talk about what I like finally tell us about it So I think it does feel real of finally for me It does really feel real and I am very excited for it I don't know if it's going to live up to everyone's expectations But it simply doesn't matter to me because I know it's gonna have some sweet improvements that are gonna make my games more enjoyable And that's all I need a new switch It doesn't have to be an OLED screen if it is awesome not gonna complain about that if it's a larger screen I think that's a no-brainer. They have a history of making, you know They're their systems a little larger with better like the SP, you know better lighting and whatnot So I think even if it's so as simple as hey better screen and you can upscale to 4k from your dock Cool, that's good stuff. Even if it was 1440p and not 4k, that's fine. Sounds great, you know So I the only thing that could really bring it down would be the price if they were to announce like hey It's 499 About that Yeah, that's your limit, but I think that they're they're cognizant of that I I think 399 makes sense Because they're gonna have the 199 light they're gonna have the the 299 regular and the 399 pro and Then after a year or two, they're gonna get rid of the regular and oh hundred dollar price cut for the pro. Isn't that convenient? That's what it feels like to me that they're just gonna keep try to keep it close to that 299 mark as far as the entire family of switch systems go so I'm on board man. I'm on board No, that's good, man. Uh, and speaking you mentioned 1440p a shout out to just your average gamer here to find out the super chat during your Conversation there and mentioned that 1440p would be great for the switchy feels I Also a 1440p to me is like I'm a PC guy as well like 1440p is like the sweet spot Even when you have a 4k monitor, you'd rather have like 1440p 240 Hertz You know you'd rather have the high refresh rate, but you know just a little bit better than 1080p So 1440p is nice. The thing is most TVs. That's not the way it goes you 1080 4k Right if it gets a 1440 signal, it's like soft upscaled 4k So like it's gonna I mean I would like 1440 like like I don't know There's probably some indie games that can maybe run it like native 1440 and then it gets upscaled the 4k because The rumors on the switch for in the past. It's an ODLSS and all the stuff that would handle all those upscaling so Yeah, it's definitely something to kind of put out there Just as an idea anyways, maybe a tease because I believe it's playstation 5 that doesn't support 1440p surprisingly well Xbox does I believe maybe it's the other way around But I keep thinking that was Sony's platform that for some reason if you plug it into a 1440p monitor It won't run at 1440p It'll run at 1080 so I It's kind of that it's a sweet spot like PC gamers have been loving that 1440p forever It's kind of weird that we don't get that on everything It's a resolution that makes sense You know 1080 was actually the weird one out because it wasn't a multiple of the resolutions we'd seen in the past It was its own thing So 1440 makes a lot of sense Now that 1080 has been a standard for so long okay 4k makes sense as well as a Four times multiple of 1080 Eric's Eric's in here with the correction here. Which one what is it Eric? No, you're right Sony doesn't have the 1440 Okay, so it's Sony. You're correct. Okay. Okay. Cool. We got that. All right So yeah, so Sony is the one that that doesn't have the 1440 so All right, so here's the thing. I obviously think switch pro is happening in this one I think there's been too much smoke too much fire too many outlets are going to get absolutely destroyed If this isn't if this isn't true and I will say as upset as I would be if this wasn't real And it was all a big ruse. I also would say that well the only way that happens is if Nintendo let it happen So if Nintendo let it happen It's like the ultimate troll for all time And I'm just gonna laugh because Nintendo would have literally just destroyed the entire video game industry and all video game Media made them all look like frauds. So it's one of those situations where it's just there is there's too many Even Jason Schreyer's talked about it a little bit Obviously we have to drop guard before like too many big names are kind of like yeah We already know about this thing It's like one of the worst-kept secrets in the industry and you'll have some people come up being like oh I talked to some developers they say they haven't heard of the same They don't have no strict the NDA as in this thing. We don't even know the specs Are you kidding me like you know strict the NDA is on this so we'll see what happens Obviously, I keep checking, you know the Nintendo has like regular times that they put out tweets at you know When they do big announcements It's usually at like eight or nine or ten and then sometimes they'll wait a little bit And then they'll have their 1 p.m. They're 2 p.m. And they're 4 p.m. Tweets and stuff like that So like they kind of have like a regular thing for it and I'll throw this out there This is just complete speculation So Samus hunter was talking to me today because she was getting in a little spat with some other leakers out there who are Getting off knit everyone's fighting over everyone being wrong about e3 Samus hunter is a hoax. Yeah. Yeah, so like there's a big battle going on So she messaged me and I'm like I don't want to get in the middle of this stuff like bottom line is you're either either hoax You're not a hoax. I don't know I'm just the messenger. It is what it is. We'll find outcome e3, right? Let e3 happen. We'll see what happens. So here's my thing She said and if you still believe in her that's fine because she has a number of things that she's gotten, right? So we can't just dismiss even if she's wrong about some e3 stuff She said that she is aware of certain tweets happening on specific days in Europe We're gonna happen in the Nintendo Europe account and she told me what those tweets are I'm not gonna tell you guys because I'm gonna kind of wait and see if they happen myself before I start to be like Okay, maybe she was right on all those and that that's a good thing But she mentioned specifically that there was no currently planned tweets on their account for tomorrow And when she asked her source her source said There's nothing going on that I'm aware of and she told me isn't that strange that there's no plans For tweets on a Thursday when they have regular tweets all the time You were just joking about the metopia tweets scours or HD tweets like they've been just throwing out stuff That we already basically know about and they're just keep doing it and keep doing it and all of a sudden tomorrow there isn't any planned ones and She noted that when you look back to the past and this is just something you can actually look up When they like an adult switch light and they dropped that their Twitter They're like tweet about it. That was like the only thing for the whole day and there was like no warning for it Apparently with the marketing department. They just dropped it. It wasn't because that's how they keep it under wraps Is that people don't know this? It's not a it's not scheduled out ahead of time, right? It's somebody some big way who's in control of it comes on upload hit send done deal So that's what sam center is claiming that she is not saying it's going to happen tomorrow But she's kind of speculating because there isn't another schedule to read at least at the time She talked to me that wouldn't that makes sense them to drop it tomorrow, but we'll see again She wouldn't even be the source on tomorrow anyways That's her speculation It would be that Nick guy from Xbox arrow who by the way has not come out and said it got moved Notable. I've been watching him follow him. He has not said anything publicly anywhere that Nintendo has kicked it further down the road, so If he's our actual insider, we'll find out tomorrow because he said tomorrow Yeah, I'll say though. I actually see a super metal Dave in the chat like also suggesting that maybe possibly like next big right like like that's Possible It's also interesting when you consider that Nintendo has a tendency to make us wait as long as they possibly can Like think about it. We only just got the confirmation of their e3 direct today Everyone else kind of announced their stuff a while ago already, right and their direct is the very last day of e3 So, you know, I don't know There's there's definitely like a pattern with the tunnel making us wait as long as possible before it actually happens And I also look at it like this though Summer game fest is next Thursday. There's a bunch of companies there that make games for switch Even though Nintendo is not there could obviously be some switch games talked about there I would assume if they want to show switch pro stuff. It would need to be unveiled before Thursday of next week, so A whole another week from today that they couldn't unveil things from this Wednesday the next Wednesday and I get that And I get that we all want this thing announced now Like there's a lot of we want this Nick guy to be right Why are we covered in this Nick guy because we want him to be right? We want this thing announced tomorrow. We you know And the thing is there's retailers that are listing it is going up for pre-order at midnight on the fourth Which lines up with what Nick said or to be an announced tomorrow So yeah, you put two and two together and you're like, yeah, it's been announced tomorrow Everyone get ready to f5 at midnight to get your pre-order in or you know, get ready to essentially get announced tomorrow You know what I'm gonna probably end up doing a bigger argument though Sure, what if those retailers are just putting up those listings and anticipating it anticipating exactly Yeah, that's why I said the only one to me that was like, oh wait a second was when the the best buy one if that's legit I know for a fact that's from a distributor. That's not from Best Buy themselves Distributors don't throw things in there willy-nilly and that was listed as the fourth So I'm just gonna one chat have been saying that it's for that that skews for an AMD processor Maybe so maybe it is I have no idea. Here's what I know. Here's what I know I Know that Actually, maybe I should use the word no. Yeah, right. Don't use the word. No. How did you phrase it? With what part? The word no Oww think with great confidence. Yeah, I think with great. I'm gonna steal in that now Every video so people get sick of hearing it. I think I think with great confidence that the switch pro is being announced Sometime in the next 48 hours Don't know when don't have any personal sources on this Obviously, Sam is under speculating that speculation Again, it would be speculation anyways on our end anyways, right rumors, whatever you want to call it So I think it's going to end up being announced this week because I think There's a nervousness that happens with their partners entering the week that they're supposed to be getting their announcements out That Nintendo still hasn't done it and last minute changes if Nintendo just decides not to do it so I Think it needs to happen this week and I as we noted way back earlier in this podcast There was a very interesting why is Nintendo specifying we're talking about software Exclusively for the switch and it's kind of like okay, but but of course you are like that's what you do The 3ds is discontinued You hardly ever ever bring up mobile games at E3 So like okay, this is what you do you talk about switch games at E3 Like we don't expect next-gen games or whatever. So like what you don't have to specify that unless you know an Additional expectation is going to be made because of something you're about to announce and you want to like let people know No, you're not going to get the details you want to know about that system here It's one of those self-aware tweets, right? Because yeah, I mean Nintendo and and their marketing team or social media team are totally aware of all this with pro hype It's everywhere and all their threads every single tweet they make. Yeah, where's the switch pro? Oh, yeah another non switch pro tweet It could be the case that like they I mean like, you know, they don't just I I'm gonna assume and I don't know for a fact But I'm gonna assume that wherever they have behind just social media people right like who do their tweets like they're planned Tweets they're not like they have some dude who just like decides, okay This is what we're gonna do right there and there like there's people who look at over there Okay, this is what you can say and that's how you're gonna phrase it, right? There's a bit of a team. There's a bit of a thought process there like they didn't just put that wording there unintentionally I Feel like it is suggestive for sure that there's something else maybe not necessarily switch pro right but That's what I think it is given all the reports Yeah, absolutely and my thing is I've I've been wanting this platform for years, right? There's been like little rumors and mutterings about this thing back in 2017 There was even one muttering in it in 2016 When when it was starting coming out that it might be the taker x1 and all that and been like oh, it's a 2015 tech coming on 2017 it's not gonna age well And this wasn't the chip Nintendo wanted to use but whatever they want to use wasn't a four Portable and whatever excuses were being thrown out there. I remember this being a big thing back then And I remember the first time we mentioned the words You know switch to or switch HD or switch 4k or switch pro switch advancement like was way back in 2017 I remember using that language and people like why the hell are we talking about this thing in 20? Well one Nintendo's always as Chintura for a kawa said himself. They're always Working on the next thing. They're always making something and he especially noted. We're at the midway point We're definitely working on hardware Period and the story like not even a question. This is what we did a whole coverage of it I said next-gen hardware. It doesn't necessarily mean it's next-gen hardware. They're just working on hardware Whatever it is. What could it be? Well, there's a lot of interesting things to pay attention to right now and video is doing a ton of announcements here They already did some apparently they got some more coming up next week And in those announcements are potentially new Tegra SOC's that they might be using in future Shield TVs or in future smart cars or future this or future that that also might end up being a chip potentially being thought of for the switch because they were factually hiring people just last year To work on a Tegra SOC for a game console and right now the only game console They have anything in is the switch So take that for what you will obviously then we have the reports that they want to discontinue the Tegra line And all this jazz a lot of stuff has been pointing to this for a while Let's take our X1 line by the way not the overall Tegra brand. So I mean What what does it mean? Okay, first off, let's talk about the number one thing I think people are worried about if this thing is dropped tomorrow How the hell are people gonna pre-order it We're technically still in a pandemic in most of the world How the hell are people gonna pre-order this device? Like we they can't even like what like right now. I'm gonna go to Amazon right now I guarantee you there are a lot of models of switch sold out right now So like how the hell are we gonna end up? Being able to get a pre order for switch for like to me The obvious reason is if they do in person ones, which I suspect Nintendo would do because they've been selling switches in person This entire pandemic that you know, that's your best method, right? It gets announced Maybe the moment it gets announced you better head off over to your local game stop and park your butt outside till the next day That's probably what I was gonna make when Eric gets off work I wouldn't be surprised if I said mom come over watch the kids. So you just don't work We got to go park our butts to make sure we get pre-orders in for this thing Because that's gonna be our best bet now doesn't mean we won't be at midnight spamming our phone Trying to get the pre-order online so we don't have to sit there all night But it's also one of those that will also be live streaming it and you guys will probably keep us company Yeah, I'm looking on Amazon right now They do have the red box switch in stock right now and they do the animal crossing once that's good So maybe wait no if you look it says in stock June 26. Oh, yeah Yeah, it does. Yeah, and stock July 1st. I see that. Yeah, so they're not in stock Yeah, they're not in stock, but they're selling you future stock orders I mean, I'm looking at even like the oh That won't that one's available pretty much right now the switch No, get it as soon now see two-day shipping light blue switch like blue is available. It's not technically in stock It is because get it as soon with prime shipping is June 8 prime ship is two days That's like a week from now. Yeah, so like that's not technically in stock They're just they're just a stock drop happening by at the end of this week. Yeah Um See like the coral the coral one. That's that's a bit closer That's like you're seeing here though like it it sold out turquoise completely sold out That's being scalped right now on Amazon. So like switch is not readily available. Is it impossible to get? No, you can go, you know, if you're willing to wait a few weeks You can go buy an order ahead of time and get a ship to your house just fine other retailers might have it You might be able to go to your local stores like around here. We've had We had like when the metopia switches came out But there was only like two left at the store all gone now and then when they came in restock of switches out at target like God like last week or whatever We got the last one in the store They said they got two hundred and fifty of them in and we got the last one on the very day they came in Dang Yeah, and our area not even that highly densely of a popular area now I don't know if that's because they're scalping them or I don't know how because you can still order an MSRP without scalping I don't think it's because of scalping. I just think it's a high demand. We're still in a pandemic people are at home Now there's been more and more pushing because hey look a lot of people turned up. They could do their job from home They don't want to stop working at home. So now there's that whole movement about hey Can we just have our life back and just work from home and make our own schedules and do our own thing? Because we're actually enjoying life a little bit better not having to do that nine to five in an office all the time You know being able to be at home and turn your Netflix on and still get your work done Because you can't do that in the office. You might get in trouble If a one-on-one person might walk in and see you're watching your show even though your work is all done You know, that's just the way it goes In some professions, obviously not every single profession can can be from home You can't like you know be a surgeon at your house. That's probably symbol switches from your house Yeah, I mean you can't you can't assemble the parts needed to make the switch Anyways, so yeah, there's obviously some jobs I would assume if you're at your house, you're not gonna be able to like be Paul Bunyan and create your own You know wood to build a new house. I presume you got to go to the woods somewhere Maybe maybe you own a back 40 with a whole bunch of wood soon. You might But yeah, the point is that the switches aren't necessarily always ready to get the day you want to get it but Switch pro it's gonna be so hard to pre-order and You know retailers this happens every time we're gonna take more pre-orders and they end up getting in they're gonna cancel Amazon always has that happened Best Buy always has that happened So they're like the only guaranteed way that your pre-order even if you feel like oh, I got it right away on that I'm like in the first Millisecond that it became available. Yeah, you and how many millions of others and how many of those are getting canceled Mm-hmm. The only to me This is why I always say in person pre-orders if this thing is announced tomorrow It goes up goes up for pre-order on Friday if you can go in person and obviously you're fully vaccinated and you're safe out there Go for it do it if you if you've been waiting to camp out and you're able to you work at home And you could take the time do it because the in-person ones are the ones that you guarantee because they only What happens is at least at our local game stop is they will only sell What the computer says the units they are getting? Period and they usually will sell even under that just to be safe And then they'll reopen it again, you know a few days later once it's double confirmed That's one thing that happened with me is when I went in for my Xbox Series X pre-order. I actually didn't get in on in I was one off from getting an Xbox Series X I got an Xbox Series S pre-order they called me a week and a half later and said oh, hey Turns out we're actually getting two more Xbox Series X's we remember that you were next in line. Do you want it? Yes Yes, I do The funny thing is I also got lucky and got a second pre-order on target at the time. I was see I was doing both I was trying to go in a game stop and fighting online and you could do that You can factually do that when you're waiting in line if you happen to get one online good go home I mean, maybe don't maybe just get both just in case against canceled But especially if I'm like always worried about getting stuff online Just because I like getting things as soon as possible. Yeah multiple times I've seen friends order things and not get them immediately. Yeah, I'm playing this now Why because I either bought up all night or the day Well, yeah, so so there's the thing I had the pre-order of the series X on target And then I had my one a game stop Paid both off and I ended up selling the second one because I need it to someone on Twitter or whatever and Yeah day one I had my Xbox series X the target one then show up for two or three days Which I mean when you're getting a launch system Two or three days isn't that big of a deal per se when you know It's just so hard to get but it's also yeah, but I got mine day one because I got to go in person And they just hand it to me Same thing when we got the switch we were going day one They just handed me that and now all the stuff I pre-order and and actually are pre-packed in a bag for you all nice to go You just sit there in the store. You can hold it. They won't let you open it. It was funny Yeah, you can hold it We could look at the box we could peek at it But you can't open it and you can't walk out of the store until midnight because we actually all had the switches Not like 15 minutes before midnight. It was it was really cool but yeah, I Again, so it's probably gonna be very hard to pre-order and I think that's what people are most worried about with this system getting You know, it's when it's getting announced right now is how the hell are we gonna get our pre-orders in and really the same as in the other way that you would get pre-orders in and it's kind of a crapshoot and Unless you camp out in your first in line They might only get one unit. Yeah, so good luck We had a super chat come in here from a J. B. Bonifacio for five dollars And says you're insane if Nintendo's announces means there will be a switch pro announcement They literally said the direct is focusing on software Thank you so much for that. So what we were saying there is that the announcement happening before e3 We're not saying add e3 that them saying the software was okay. Nintendo never really goes out of their way to say We're only talking about software for switch They don't have to say that It's the only platform you have at the moment. Of course, that's what you're doing The fact that they said that means that there's a reason they had to tell people to not expect anything else Either because they're aware it could just be as much as they're aware of the rumors of the pro And they're not going to talk about it and they're not going to talk about it at e3 They're not going to talk about it before e3 and it could just be as simple as that That's just being consciously aware that people think this thing is happening And maybe it's not and Nintendo wants people to stop expecting it It's also possible that means they're going to announce it before e3, but they don't want to focus on it Add e3. They don't want questions about it. They don't want people being like, what's the exact so see how much ramp How much is how much like no whatever they announced before e3 is what you're gonna get and then you probably see some games You're an e3 that are running on it And that's all you're gonna get until a later time when they want to start ramping up advertising for it more Towards the release date start letting people know what all you're getting with this thing like yeah When they announce that there'll be a couple marketing things. I'm sure they might mention a bigger screen, you know That's why some people thought oh, maybe it's called switch XL bigger screen, you know sure But it I don't know it's one of those things that it's not that it confirms anything It's just kind of interesting that they said it the way they did as if we should be expecting something else When we shouldn't be expecting anything else at e3 except software This might take Smithy Davis also said I read that the pro might be announced tomorrow What do you think? Eric, what do you think is it good? Sure, why not sure why not why not? So Eric's all in Eric's all in on that 5j. What do you think is it getting announced tomorrow? Boy trying to predict Nintendo's unpredictableness I I'm gonna be I want to say no, but something is stopping me. So I guess I'm a yes. It's it's announced tomorrow. Oh Boy Andres, what what are we thinking tomorrow? So I Try not to speak in absolutes right try not to think in absolutes So like nothing in my head is ever 100% But I'll tell you this my plan for Now all throughout the weekend is Acting as if there is something happening tomorrow now. I'm prepared for that to not happen And it'll be fine for what I plan to do but I Am I'm gonna I'm keeping my eyes peeled and I'm prepared for something to be announced tomorrow It doesn't happen tomorrow. It's fine. They can theoretically do it Friday or they can theoretically do it early next week It doesn't mean it's not happening yet. So, you know, so is this what it is this one of those I'm prepared as if I've already got my I'm sick. I can't come to work today speech prepared oh I have tomorrow off. Oh So you hope to go up tomorrow. That's what you're hoping. I Had yeah, I am prepared for to go and get pre-orders either tomorrow or Friday. Those are my two days off this week So I'm I'm prepared Notice how I always Always seems like my days are time my days off are always timed when there's when the events are happening But I don't know it's happening tomorrow. So we'll see but I'm definitely I'm prepared for it So we'll see what happens. I do want to say though on that note We're supposed to get Pokemon use So like is it possible that this year will be the first time when we get an e3 direct that there isn't a Pokemon presentation beforehand? Like that's how it's been for the last while. We got the release dates last week Which is strange normally we would get like just like the announcement of the games we get the release dates They're in a Pokemon director presents So I'm not sure what's going on here But I still feel there's a pretty good chance we get a Pokemon presents before e3 Potentially that's announced next week because the week after is the e3 direct, right? So I'm just saying like if there's a Pokemon presents next week, maybe they save an actual content showcase This week, right because yes, we get we got the confirmation that there's an e3 direct But that's just the tweet like there's not actually any demonstration of you content there, right? If we get a showcase trailer tomorrow for this switch revision, that's actual new like content Nintendo is showing us You know, so I feel like you'd be strange if For Nintendo to save that for next week and then follow that up with a Pokemon presents They could there's five days in a week They could do that, but it might make more sense for them to spread out their actual like Content reveals right so maybe this week we get that switch revision Actually shown off and we get me obviously we already got the confirmation of the direct in next week May we get a Pokemon presents then obviously the week after we get the big four-hour sort of big block of Nintendo news Yeah, yeah And I see some people in the chat they keep saying oh check central leaks I we are I already know well aware of a central leak says out there guys. It's about Amazon and that how it can be independently verified by anyone with high enough access to Amazon Which doesn't really mean much because you I'll say this to get it independently verified We have to know who's higher up at Amazon that's willing to verify it and we don't typically know people who would so just saying that Doesn't mean that it's verified on top of that it mentions that the you know The internal time is a real listening in the Amazon employee can access it Well, we don't know when the revision will be announced. That's the entire point central leaks is basically saying hey look You know, they think this thing is real, but it doesn't necessarily mean it is So a ka everything that central leaks has said means next to nothing Sorry, I know we talked about it in a video earlier today, but it kind of sounds like they don't know anything They're just making it up as they go like the rest of us now I do want to kind of throw this out to I do believe central leaks by the way I feel like they're good with their information They've gotten a lot wrong over the years. Yeah a lot wrong now They get some stuff right too. That's the thing like all insiders are right and wrong all the time So I'm not trying to like knock them down. I'm just saying that like it's funny how late they were good They were good about all the gen four stuff. Yeah, they were good about gen four. Yeah, so like yeah, I I'm just throwing out there that It feels like they're backtracking they provided receipts and now they're saying oh, but by the way We don't actually know anything and if you want this verified Go find somewhere that Amazon that can verify and it's like we don't how the common people don't have access to a high-up Amazon employee To verify it and high up Amazon employees probably wouldn't verify it anyways because they're not supposed to talk about it That's my thing I hate when it's just a way that that central leaks are presenting this as if a lot of people call in the mountain I'm saying well you get a hold of an Amazon employee and verify it and it's like but we can't that's the point We want to know how you got a hold of one to verify it But that's just again and then they say we don't know one that's going to be announced Well, if you're verifying this and you're saying this is real and that's Friday. That means it's announced tomorrow So you would know but you don't and Amazon listings by the way can also be kind of put up by Strange that I feel like a semi sympathize though and I haven't seen the whole situation But I just like in general I I sympathize with people who are known to provide him Or it's officially announced because when there's a lot of hype people have these really high expectations They perhaps really look very deeply to what they say sometimes like notice like, you know, I'm not gonna like I I'm mostly speculated predict right also occasionally I hear a few things but for the most part everything I talk about they is based off Analyzing history and what makes sort of sense and predicting it right so like, you know, I always and even when I hear something I always try to specify that like I don't know for sure What's happening, right? This is just what I think what's happening what may be happening And I don't want people to take everything anything I say as gospel because that is never the case And I also would like to sort of point out that I feel like it should be that way for everyone every single industry insider or a leaker or Rumor giver or predictor No one is a hundred percent right ever because that's just not how it works information Especially when it's before it's officially announced. It's a fluid crisis it's a fluid process and There are people who are on the inside of the inside and they're not entirely sure what's gonna happen because plans change all the time So even if let's say Central Leaks has legitimate information 100% Perhaps when they share this information, they may not want to go all in because they know there's a chance given all the potential Variables it may not happen exactly when they are suggesting it will and with everyone so hyped about it They're gonna get a lot of flak. They may lose credibility. They're gonna upset people So I'm just saying I understand the hesitance and I sympathize clearly apparently you're muted. Oh Sorry, sorry about that. Thank you guys. Thank you guys for letting me know that so what I was trying to say is One thank you for that speech. I really appreciate that because I've already been getting backlash myself I'm sure you will eventually as well everyone who's been reporting on this stuff will because oh when it turns out to maybe it's not True, maybe all of its fate and if that's the case, which by the way, we've already kind of covered that There's some really big names that are gonna be in some pretty big trouble if this stuff isn't real Like not us we're independent youtubers. No one's gonna slap us you guys can choose to stop watching and we'll move on with our lives It's not that not the big deal, but it's still one of those situations where I think We're coming to a head and We can really just point all the way back Why are we this way? Because Takahashi Machizuki broke a story last week telling us to be he set the expectation Tom Phillips followed it up and then Emily Rogers who's been one of the most reliable Nintendo leakers and the history of Nintendo leakers Told us about Mario plus Rabbids Kingdom Battle in 2016 and nobody believed her They said you're full of it No, she wasn't she knew exactly what was going on. Is she a hundred percent? No, I thought you said nobody's a hundred percent Even now it's coming out Samus under who's had a flawless track record Well, there might be some chinks in the armor coming up and now that the chinks in the armor coming up That's why she's starting to get some flat because that's what happens when the chinks happen every leaker knows that Zippo by the way He's banned from reset era now because now they think he's a fake one even though He's been leaking stuff for four years and got a bunch of stuff correct doesn't matter He had recent stuff wrong. So now people are being backlashing against him Um, I'm actually kind of surprised that Nate the hate hasn't gotten similar backlash because he's been wrong in a lot of stuff as well Bottom line is all the leakers are not the direct sources of the information. They're all getting their information from game developers from People in marketing They're getting their information, you know, sometimes maybe they have, you know, maybe they do have an uncle who works at Nintendo But wherever they're getting their information from the information doesn't come from themselves Working at the company leaking it out. They're always getting it from somebody else and when that happens You never really know sometimes it's gonna be right. Sometimes it's gonna be wrong Sometimes it is right like as an example, we don't actually know if Star Fox racing was a real game or not It could have been Supposedly that's what you know a game that was being worked on at retrospect, but we'll never we'll probably never know Yeah, we might never know that doesn't make those leaks for it in the past wrong Because the game could have got canned or it could be on the backboard or maybe it's still gonna come on We just don't know but that's the problem when you're a leaker and this is one reason why I'm glad Then I don't consider myself to be a leaker. I know some of you guys but oh, you're a leak and rumor channel That's fine. You can say what you want about that. It's rumor season. It's e3 season. This is just what happens every year But here's the thing. I'm not the direct source in any of it I'm just trying to deliver News that one sounds really good. So it's positive vibes and two Gets me excited because I like to be excited. It's a fun feeling and I recognize every video I make it could all be wrong. I try to bring you what I feel are more legit sources of information But I always know that's gonna end up being wrong as well. I've had rumor videos from a month ago that I've come true I've had one from two weeks ago that didn't that's just the way it goes in this industry That's the way it goes for these leakers So there is a some level of sympathy people should have because honestly a lot of our hype and when things come true Get us more happy say the switch pro stuff does come true And I've mentioned this to a few people in the comment sections at time or they're like the switch pros fake I can't wait for you to apologize. What am I apologizing for? Believing or thinking these things are happening because credible people are saying them I don't feel like I got to apologize if it doesn't happen But I will say this you know when it does happen are those same people gonna come out and apologize to us and apologize to all The commenters and all the other people that they attacked all this time saying it's fake saying it's fake because they didn't want to Believe it because they wanted to hold back because leakers are wrong sometimes. No, they're not going to apologize bottom line is pay attention to the positivity try to ignore the negativity and For the leakers whether it's samosa true I know is getting a lot of flack right now whether it's you know, even if the hate that's gotten some at times Or you know MVG is probably gonna get blasted a little bit because he just doesn't think this thing is real So anything is MVG's like the reason MVG doesn't think it's real is because he said he talked to ten different developers And he said none of them even heard of this thing ten different developers by the way is a very well very small sample size I'm also partially a developer. So, you know What type of developer are we talking about are we talking in game developers like an actual triple eight developer? He said he said people from Indy all the way to triple A. Okay across the spectrum. Okay, but here's the thing Yeah, when switch whack when it was NX and there was dev units out there even at the triple A developers There'd only be like three people who even knew they had a dev unit and those are the three people that reporting the game to it So it's like he could know someone say at Ubisoft, right? Oh, I know someone at Ubisoft They worked on Mario plus Travis Kingdom at all. He said nope not happening Okay, he that guy might not even be working on the damn thing. So how would he even know it could be that under wraps because Nintendo Like this is something we know about Nintendo with hardware in general You ever notice that we don't really ever get spec leaks for Nintendo hardware Nintendo has some of the strictest NDAs out there We literally have no idea what the things you got made of until it basically comes out and Then someone, you know tears it apart and then you see what it is. So This is just how how Nintendo does it nothing about this seems abnormal guys The abnormal thing is that we have these expectations with very very little Nintendo hinting There's been some Nintendo hinting. We know they're working on new hardware. Shantara Farakawa said they are We know last year they said we plant there are no plans to release new hardware in 2021 When asked the same question to get an investor meeting this year. He said we don't have any plans to release hardware soon He didn't say in 2021. He said soon and that was back in February We'll guess what soon's already coming on at this point. We're in the summer. So yeah, you're right They didn't release new hardware soon September October this holidays that wasn't soon He didn't say we're not getting it so like you can look at words from last year compared to words this year And you can say you're reading too much. It's a slip of the tongue. It's fine. That's all fine. It's all plausible and again We're just pointing out that you know Nintendo has done these revisions with handheld systems in particular Consistently for almost two decades But if we you shouldn't be expecting this system even if there weren't rumors it should be Expected the light should have been expected and XL pro whatever should be expected because we've DSI DS light DS they did that then and then there were the 3ds and now the 3ds doesn't even exist anymore It's discontinued. This is their official home console and handheld and they already did the handheld thing with the light It's only makes sense. They're gonna go in the opposite direction like they're definitely treating this of the switch more like a Handheld because think about how many color revisions we're seeing all the time, right? That's very more along the lines of how they've been treating their handheld. Yeah Obviously, there's a switch light and then it's a version 2.0 Yeah, this it just makes sense. This is kind of more like the new 3ds situation, right? When the 3ds come out Was it 2011? Yeah, yeah when the new 3ds come out 2015 yeah 2015 yeah 2015 about four years later, right? So, you know lines up. Yeah Also switch came out 2017 lots of strong software 2019 lots of strong software switch light You know 2020 was a lol same way as 2018, but then now we're in 2021 Supposedly we're getting a lot of software, right? So, you know, maybe there's a hardware lines up with that as well But a Nate I hope you give me permission here There is a super chat from Lindy that kind of goes back to where we're talking about earlier. You go for it out Go for you. I'm sure Nate appreciates your super chat Lynn But Lynn said plus plans change the intent of the science to change its mind That doesn't mean the information you had was wrong. It's just outdated It just kind of goes back to her talking about earlier right about just like sources and information Like going back to Emily Rogers She told us about mother 3 and a localization. It never happened The Nintendo themselves has an egg knowledge the demand for a mother 3 localization. It has not happened That doesn't mean Emily Rogers was a hoax. She's gotten lots of flak over the years But she's proven over time to be a very reliable person having information doesn't mean she always get things right sometimes she gets information and What she says, you know, and what we get ends up being slightly different, but that's just interpretation of information, right? You don't know exactly what it is until Nintendo shows it off Another great example is the Eurogame report about the switch and what it was when a lot of us saw it A lot of us thought it was kind of dumb didn't make any sense. It was kind of weird But what happened? It was exactly as your gamer said, but once you saw it actually presented by Nintendo It was showing off in a different light and all of a sudden made a lot more sense I guess my point here is that we get oftentimes a lot of inside information But sometimes, you know plans change like with a mother 3 localization at one point until I considered it But plans fell through so even though we got the information told to us by Emily Rogers before was officially announced It didn't actually materialize because plans change and that's kind of the risk with sort of Leaking or providing rumors of actually what's going on on the inside, right? And our thing I want to go back to is the star Fox Grand Prix thing Some people are talking about it being like a troll or just a joke or something like that another option Even one possibly is that maybe it was a real thing and our option is that it was a hoax Because guess what oftentimes game companies don't like their games getting leaked So what do they do sometimes they put out leak bait star Fox Grand Prix might have just been leaked bait they Gave it to certain people and they fed it in a way where it seemed like it was coming from a reliable source just to find out Where the leak is coming from? It's kind of an interesting analogy here, right? So like if you want to there are some some like car or repair shops if they want if they want to find like Where there's a hole in your tire they'll put the tire in Water and they'll see where the bubbles coming from to find where the hole is right well with leaks Sometimes you you put out information of like hoaxes in different places and you see where that hoax comes out from Something like a star Fox Grand Prix is a very weird thing if that starts popping out you're like, okay So our leaks are coming from this department That happens as well So that's the thing with rumors even if it's coming from a source you consider reliable You have to take it with a grain of salt because there's a lot of possibilities plans can change it can be a hoax Maybe it's delayed one great example is Skyward Sword We've known about this for years people thought it wasn't real But it just took a long time before Nintendo was ready to announce it And I think the same is gonna apply for metropartilogy by the way, so you know just Even though like all these things are really exciting and I personally think we are getting a switch revision announced before E3 Be prepared for the possibility of that not happening. That doesn't mean it doesn't have great plans but you know Take everything with grain of salt don't assume anything is a hundred percent until Nintendo confirms it themselves Yep, we had a few or two super chats I want to make sure we get to Paul Gale Network I did a $2 one earlier said n64 classic or Nintendo switch online for the 25th anniversary obviously, you know and 64 classic or N64 come into the I don't know I and 64 classic. I'm really surprised. I haven't even done I Don't know why They haven't done it. It feels like it would have been no brainer Obviously, the reasoning was because Nintendo switch online, but then they haven't added it to it yet So I don't know what do you guys think plastic line to me was Nintendo in their oh no, we're failing mode They were deploying so much like fun nostalgic stuff when the Wii wasn't doing well including the two classic consoles and I think the and SNES classic that was like 2016, right? Yeah, and then the next year the switch came out and then we got no more of that and I don't think that's a coincidence I think that's like the backup plan type stuff So I don't think we're gonna see and then 64 classic honestly as much as I would love it Until until Nintendo's failing again, and I know exactly They go oh crap. We need something now. What can we do? Oh and so we're classic So yeah, Brian see with the truth. I said he said and then they could show pal running over 20 I don't know how many people even don't he's talking about there. It's Moving on to something that you guys would know what's going on Paul Gale that were for five dollars as things change I broke news first on PlayStation all-stars Battle Royale Street Fighter 4 Super Mario 3D world I'm gonna sell a five and others some I got wrong info on That's just how it goes. Yep So what they all want to do right now for this stream because we only have two more podcasts till you three guys Do you believe it? I'm going to spend the last I don't know. Let's say half hour ish of This stream and I'm gonna actually open the floor To people in the chat if you guys want to get some questions in on anything We talked about today or anything. You're actually wondering about all of us We'll probably pick out some things that we want to respond to and we'll see what happens So if you want to add, you know 5j gaming in the chat or at Andres restart or at Nintendo Prime or at emo 8790 although he's not logged in so it doesn't really matter So it's at Nintendo Prime and it'll probably glance at mine He's reading the chat over there. That's one way you can obviously obviously super chat and all this I think it in but that's not that's not a requirement to get questions in so I know there's a little bit of a stream delay so While we wait because of the stream delay one question. I'm gonna throw it to you guys. What's your Unannounced but most anticipated announcement at E3. I'll get gone Mmm, there it is DK Like it's it's it's a tough. It's a close call between Metroid and Donkey Kong I guess the difference is to the Metroid I strongly believe is a Metroidvania side side scroller There's a lot of special implications with that because maybe there is a Metro Prime 4g's especially with the switch row vision Like we could see that E3, but I'm not expecting it But either way the metric you I know is gonna be a good thing with Donkey Kong There's a lot of question marks for that. Is it being made by the Odyssey team? Is it a side scroller? Is it 3d? Is it somewhere in between? Is this gonna be like a springboard for a whole bunch of more Donkey Kong things? Like the Donkey Kong expansion to the park maybe more with the Donkey Kong 40th anniversary So I guess I just have more questions about the Donkey Kong thing even though in terms of like what I want to play I want to play both Metroid and Donkey Kong a lot I just believe Metroid is for sure gonna be there Donkey Kong There's just a lot more questions. So that's sort of what I'm most looking forward to seeing at E3 What about you 5j? You know, I hadn't considered the possibility of 2d Metroid before we were talking tonight and hearing that I really love this idea because Metroid Prime is not a continuation of the Original storyline right? It's it's a it's a prequel series. I believe right? And Wouldn't it be awesome if we got a Metroid Prime 4 and a continuation that was left off Last with Metroid Fusion the fourth in the franchise could be Metroid 5 We've never had a mainline Metroid game that was not in 2d I mean, we had other M which had some non 2d segments As far as gameplay obviously the graphics were 3d graphics But it was still a game that had a lot of mostly a 2d gameplay to it so Sweet. Give me prime 4 and give me Metroid 5 One question I saw in the chat to get too quick was out. Lauren Webb to bone brought up the z2 222 tweet. So That was that was something that I actually did want to bring up. I forgot who put it out there. It was um, the cotton games guy Um, I always forget the name. I have the Yeah, yeah, right in front of our dms earlier. Okay. Yeah, dr. Circon toto cotton games He retweeted the nintendo of america post about their direct and he just said four different characters Z2 space 22 and then in the thread everyone's like, oh Rest of the wild to 2022. That's what everyone sort of just sort of jumped on and thread. Um, which maybe Um, oh, but I'm not sure if this person would know that be privy to the information at this point It could be speculation. It might not be we sort of chatted a little a little bit about me So I'll let you kind of yeah. Well, so so I've been following this guy for a long time. He is a kind of a consultancy Job that he lives in japan. He's from germany Um, and he does, you know, go to investors meetings and and and deal with nintendo sometimes. So Could he have heard something maybe? Uh, it's also one of those that He's usually not very cryptic. So the fact he's being cryptic means like is this just a prediction? Um, you know, why isn't he saying more? That's really weird Like the moment he saw that everyone assumed it was this if it wasn't that why didn't he correct them? Um, I just don't think he cares. I think he's just having fun Um, he could be trolling people Uh, again Breath of the wild too might be in 2022. That's like not even that like out there of a prediction or that out there Of a thing to say. So, um, I I think it just upsets people because they're hoping it's this year I'm hoping it's this year. But I mean, I just want to know when it's coming at all if they if they put up a date and say 2022 Hey, at least I know I'm gonna play it next year. That's cool. I just want to see I just want to see the game Um, we've got a lot of a lot more questions coming in. Um Anyone any of you guys spot one yet because I that was the one I was looking at for a moment Um Let's see here Small gliss glissie added you Nintendo Prime. Uh, how much storage are you hoping for? That's a good question. We haven't talked about that. Yeah I I I want like a minimum of 128 Um, I don't know if they're going to do it Thank you. I mean, that's four times what the switch has now But I also feel like We got a good Nintendo. Well, we got to consider this too. It's a more powerful system Games are going to be running at 1080p docked Games sizes for nintendo games have even started to grow over the years Um, there are third-party companies that might be making games potentially even only for pro not even available on the base switch Potentially are we've already seen games like mba2k that fill up your entire switch. Sometimes it's not even enough to play So it's one of those 128 is what I want and if they're charging 399 and it's only a little bit more powerful with an OLED screen. They better give me 128 But they're probably not going to Yeah, exactly. It makes sense To have 120. I mean Realistically, they're gonna double it the 64 and call it good. Yep. That's what that's a realistic bet Didn't they give us an eight gigabyte Wii U? Yeah, and you should have bought it because that's the one that's worth money Not the black one because they discontinued it like right away It was like eight or 32 like What? I guess the whole storage thing is something I take for granted because I have a big micro sd card in my switch And I just don't worry about it at all Um, and I guess the the benefit of switch is because they use cartridges It's not like when you get a disc for a playstation or xbox It's all the whole game on there. It just eats up your hard drive Switch doesn't have that issue. So the storage base it does have goes a little bit more of a ways than other systems But still yeah 32 is a small amount if you don't have a big micro sd card You're what many would call sol. But that's why you get a micro sd card Yeah, one you should there there prices have been dropping you can get like I mean I'm pretty sure you can get a 400 gigabyte micro sd card for less than 50 dollars Especially if there's like a deal going on um, so That's honestly my recommendation I don't really expect there to be a lot of internal storage on the switch revision just because well one It's more expensive because it's flash memory, right? So that just raises up pricing even more I do kind of hear your point, uh, nate in terms of like Because the switch may be 4k capable Some of the games that attention may come exclusive or may get patched on to This version of the switch like there's gonna be there get the games with me picker So it does make sense on more storage space But at the same time if we're talking about like big 4k games like how much is 128 going to really do for you It might help, but it's not going to make that much more of a difference Well, I can tell you right now. I have a so I have a 512 in my switch. It's full I'll gladly get an extra 100 gigs from nintendo that I don't have to pay for i'll take that It it more I here's what I think here's what I think there needs to be This is my personal opinion There needs to be enough storage that there isn't a single game you can buy that you can't put on it digitally And right now there's games you can buy that don't fit on the switch digitally you have to buy an sd card now I think the games are going to be even bigger 64 might not be enough So then where's the natural evolution from that? Well, it's 128. You don't you don't just patch on another 32 If you know anything about how chips are made and then how they're arranged on a board It that's why things increase the way that they do the next increase would be 128 So That's why I know the reason why I wanted to happen now again. Is it going to happen? No, is it possible they leave it at 32? But then they decide to toss in and you know a 128 micro sd card in every single box Possibly they do work with micro sd card manufacturers. And as you said, well 400 for under 40 So how much is it going to really cost them to throw a 128 micro in with it? Got to remember they did it with what the 3ds threw a 4 gig in with you like so it's not like they haven't given you free You know storage before in that way, so that's another just another possibility to throw out there that okay If they don't increase it well, they can at least pack in enough that you might not need to buy one right away, you know But again, this is also Nintendo. So I mean it'll probably go the opposite direction. We're gonna get 16 gigs in the next one Yeah, exactly. You never know. They don't have no storage at all. No local storage. You have to buy your own storage Yeah, and you don't really get the option of the usb hard drives because of course you unplug it from the dock. Oops, there goes my connection to the hard drive I wonder though if they would be So bold as to give us two micro sd card slots That's interesting I like that I mean you don't have that big flap. There's plenty of space to put our things under there. Why not put two slots? Exactly and I just think I never thought about two slots until I got my new camera Um that you guys are seeing seeing me on right now This camera has two sd card slots and it didn't even cross my mind that you could do something like this It's like I always knew about it But I never owned anything that did it and now I do and it's like Why the switch should have like three of these bad four Why why limit it like if you could fit it on the board give me as many slots as you could fit Screw it cube has two memory cards lots just throwing that out there. Yeah, right like it makes so much sense It makes so much sense Uh small glizzy also asked are you wishing for different themes like backgrounds? I personally don't care. I gave up I don't spend enough. Yeah, I don't spend enough time on the home screen to care about themes I want folders. I want organizational things. Yes Yes I want that I'm okay without themes. I know it was kind of cool to have month 3ds for a while I I kind of expected them to add themes and more personality to the switch because it was like It felt like a system that they got the bare minimum out there to make it perform quickly and people would be happy with that But it like had none of the personality of the previous nintendo handhelds So the fact that we haven't had that sort of personality Update in four years. It's not coming All right Just so lachlan m stops spamming in the chat and getting banned because he's going to eventually do because he's spamming this question I think 40 times in the last hour. Um, we'll finally address it. We've already addressed it once I guess I kind of addressed it. I'll let you guys address it. What did mvg mean by his tweet? um about the whole Oh every disappointment. Yeah, but for disappointment. I'll let you guys answer it because I kind of went off on a spiel on it earlier um, I mean I don't know Like you don't know like it's not like a report necessarily right like it could be him saying Oh, I saw something and you guys aren't going to like it It could mean nothing's happening tomorrow It could mean that he's just Trying to caution people from getting overly excited. There's a lot of that a lot of people Like to sort of try and contain excitement So they put out things like hey It's not happening or hey prepare to be disappointed Some people kind of just operate by expect disappointment and get surprised afterwards. Like that's a possibility So, I don't know. There's there's too many like variables in terms of interpreting what he said So I guess we'll just see what happens tomorrow. It kind of goes back to what we were talking about earlier We don't know what's actually going to happen until it happens I can you can think with great confidence, right? But you can never actually know So we'll we'll see what happens tomorrow I think it makes sense for nintendo to announce saying tomorrow, but also It doesn't mean it's the only way they can get things done. So we'll see Right, I think he's just confident that it's not going to be announced Without necessarily having any information like almost everyone here is confidence getting announced But none of us are actual insiders like we don't actually have inside information, but we're also confident I think he's just the reverse of that Yeah, yeah, well and and you've said that he's kind of a Denier that it's even happening. So He's just probably hedging his bets so that if it doesn't happen tomorrow, he can say look I told you so You know, it's it's I told you it's one of those that Um ever since some of these retailers have kind of come out and we've seen that 399 price floated out there There's been some people that I've said that have been like really 399 That's a lot of money That people don't have For a system that is probably going to be significantly weaker than a PlayStation 5 Which is also 399 for an old digital version So there is a lot of people that are like man I also look at it as it's going to be sold out day one. Anyways, Nintendo knows it They know they're not going to keep enough stock of it anyways They'll charge as much as they think they can charge for it and make as much money as they can Well, they can and they'll lower the price later like they did with the 3ds back in the day when they took advantage of day one Sales and then it kind of fell off and then they lowered the sales and got it back again Because they already have two other models that are selling incredibly well If people aren't interested in spending 400 god forbid $500 on the thing they don't have to they got other options So I think uh, I I hope that Nintendo I mean, I was I was a big believer in 349 for a while But it's also, you know what if this thing has the specs in it that I wanted to have It's going to be at least $400 So, I don't know, right So it could be one of those tweets where he's like, yeah, it'll get announced, but you're not going to like it Right, yeah, that could be another Option, so We'll see what happens. Yeah, what's up? So, uh When is the discussion ending because it's something I want to say Oh, I kind of like the idea of just dropping the bomb and ending the podcast with that Oh, my god, it's it's not I don't think it's anything that you'd have to make a whole video about it Just kind of like maybe hype inducing Yeah, but but I like hype inducing so I'll probably I don't want to play it up that much Eric wants to say something. Hold on. Hold on. Can I go one second before you Andre? Sorry, I just want to get a game in Because I never got a game in on that. Sure. I'm discussing here So we know that there's a possibility of Kirby games coming out. Yeah, one of them is going to be Kirby's dream course too Dream course too. Okay Okay, okay Or an updated dream course He's pretty he's projecting by the way. He doesn't actually know. No, no, obviously, right That's great. That's a fan classic. Taker's extended to a super chat instead of Schrodinger's switch pro. Yeah Is there really a switch pro? Is there not? Yeah. Yeah, right Oh, um, so so I'm just I gotta say do you want to drop it right at the end and then we end Or I mean we do you want us to sign out first or do you want to like drop it then sign out? I mean like I guess like I could just say it and if it's like just a couple minutes before like It's again. I don't want to over over hype. It's just a little thing that might excite some people I mean if it's a Something that's gonna excite people it's never a little There's some you know, you know my audience, right? Yeah, yeah, I mean we decided it over Kirby games. So come on now. We share a similar audience. I know Um, all right, I'll just tell you. Oh, all right. So I just thought about it because because uh 5j was talking about how we're not insiders, right? um, and I I I don't I'm not Insider either like again occasionally people might tell me things and I might trust them might trust I might not trust them I Don't really make videos. He's about the drops of inside information. Here we go. I I'm not told anything I don't make videos About what people tell me I make videos about what's public information And if I heard something that sort of confirms it or validates it I might mention that's pretty much it um So it's a very little thing but On thursday, uh, was it? Yeah, on so on thursday, we had the pokemon news. I um Nate you and I talked about the wholesome tune three thing kind of broke that together Um, and then there was a switch pro report. So I all happened in one day So I messaged a friend of mine um, and I said Shit is getting wild laughing my ass off And my friend responds and it's going to get better Ha ha That's it That I again all all I can tell you is that that that's it so The this friend of mine I can tell you I trust very very very much. Um so You know if I'm if on thursday, we got the release dates for the pokemon games There was a rumors about the swatoon three thing and there's a switch pro report And then I talk about it with him very briefly as I literally told you verbatim I I just said shit's getting wild and he's like and it's gonna get better That gets me excited So, you know, we'll see what happens. Um, but You know, I I'm excited for what's to come even if switch pro is not real. I imagine the direct is gonna have some good games I apologize for the heat that's coming your way tomorrow I I totally apologize. I'm gonna literally clip this out and be like look I like Andres. This is what he says I'm not gonna give any information on who his source is. I'm just telling you right now This is legit. Shit's about to get wild. Let's go. It's going nuts It's about to get worse or better Depends on how you view it for in my case It's really really good because it gives you really good content to make But it also gets really really bad because it also like like this switch pro So, you know, it sucks as a content creator. You guys are like, oh freedom. I'm like, I got to be around to make the news I got I got to like keep my availability open to get a new stuff Like I'm like, okay, let me make sure I'm not too far away from my house Make sure I'm not too far away from this because I got a head on down to the Make sure I'm not getting too deep in some big art project with my kids because I might have to walk Away and they're gonna destroy the house while I try to take an hour to throw together a video So they got pop paint balloons like your sister did Basically, oh my god, let's not go there. Um My hype level of just rose a couple points for tomorrow. Why not? And that scares me I don't know if it's related to morrow. I don't I don't you don't know that I don't know if he said it's it's going to get better now. That could just be e3 Yeah Could be three maybe we're gonna get what we want or some wild stuff Breath of wild, I don't know. I mean, you don't know. You don't know. It's like dropping. It's already getting well It's just being for the announcement we got today, but like that's not even that wild Let's let's just be honest, right? We're glad we now know when nintendo's doing e3, but we got nothing out of that now That's not wild. The announcement was basically ready three and this is the day we're there I'm just throwing that out there like that's not I mean that makes things better how we already knew they were ready three And we know just as much today about what they're doing at e3 is we knew yesterday Yep Oh, they're doing treehouse again. Okay. We got like yeah, okay. Oh, they're doing a 40 minute direct Okay, like they do every direct. Okay, cool Well any hints no any like subtle imagery any like logo any like logo we could find like somewhere in their little art thing That maybe hints as a Nothing that's the other interesting thing. Normally they give us a focus Yeah, and nothing focus. That's what I'm saying like mm and again Was that like greenest because the focus is going to be announced with the switch pro. I have no idea This is the other interesting thing is that Where was it that we saw no, I'm just I'm just enjoying myself or the pinnacle There's no bigger fan of the podcast than Eric He just said I'm just really enjoying this conversation as he's not saying anything He's just sitting back you guys are all at home and he's here in person. This is great This is great. All right. Go on go on No, I was just I was just kind of pointing out that it's it's weird that you know They're not specifying at all. They normally specify something Why Because they have nothing It's gonna be a distant you being the cynic It's going to be a very disappointing 83 all third party games a couple 2d stuff and people are just going to walk away pissed and they know it We're going to get the sequel to the 3d Kirby switch that we're going to get. Um, uh, donkey kong 44 It's just going to be the red girder old donkey kong game more mario. I love the suzer name korty the birdy And then two ls super chest and hide it. Well, would you like an arm sequel d3? We did talk with that briefly earlier. That was something that 5j brought up, but it'd be funny if like that's their big announcement Our big thing for e3 is an arm sequel and it's like Yeah, okay. Yeah, we're we're going to be pretty disappointed if that's like the big thing As awesome as it would be to get one of like, but that's a game that sold 2 million a sequel to that That's your big type game for the holidays Already then well, I'll see you for pokemon legends arceus on january 28 of next year Well, I just want to point out like Oh, my personal predictions would can totally be wrong. Okay. Um, they're wrong. They're probably wrong. Yeah. Yeah, probably. Um, If I had to put a five spot down you're wrong I think the metro game is coming out august or september Um, I also think breadth the watsu is coming out late october We're gonna get the pokemon game november December might have another game. Not sure what that'll be Could be bayonetta 3 Maybe not january. We get put legends arceus monolith sauce new game. So two and three That's another option. I don't think we get big or a zeno blade sauce guy. Could be a zeno blade the other Maybe fire emblem fire emblem remake. Well, the other thing is that maybe I could also see a situation where maybe a curbie game or mario part are throwing into like september or august Also, it's not necessarily one game per month. We could see two games per month like every three weeks It's like kind of like that just look at 2019 That's a good sort of like perhaps Mold of what we should sort of expect between I guess I mean from now even all the way up until march like we could be getting at least one major internal published game per month But in some cases it may be more than that But if that happens we get something along those lines like if we get Breath of the wild two legends arceus Splatoon three and a couple other things like maybe a fire emblem a donkey kong and a metroid Which is probably a lot maybe we shouldn't expect all that but if that somehow all gets out Even remove one of those things out of there. It's still really good by march 2022 meet myself personally I'm gonna be a very very happy gamer. This is gonna that's a lot for me to enjoy between now and then there's probably I mentioned that it'll be somehow be in that lineup. I think it's gonna be really good We'll see we'll see All right, I think we're gonna wrap things up here Um, I want to thank everyone who came out tonight. This was actually a record number of people at a live podcast So, thank you guys for setting a new live record for the podcast Who knows what the what'll actually be when all the views are all said and done and all the posts used I'll thank you guys so much for coming in. We obviously are super hyped The next podcast episode by the way guys will not be next week wednesday. It's actually going to be on tuesday Uh, we have a special guest coming on camelot 331. That's the day that he can make it So we're gonna kind of adjust things and make it work for him Which kind of works out because it gives me a buffer day before summer games That's so it's kind of nice to have a little buffer in there, which you guys know will probably be streaming anyways But Either way, I don't have to worry about trying to put together a show for it and having the kind of technical difficulties I have anytime anyone's on my set but me So, uh, that's another thing. I don't have to necessarily worry about maybe I'll have multiple camera angles for that show as well just of me And the many sides of Nate the many faces of Nate I should put a mask on I should put a mask on the side of my head and like that's what the different cameras Hit the different masks up. I don't know. Anyways, uh, I want to thank all you guys for tuning in All of our audio listeners. I do apologize. I know I've been a bit a bit late getting the audio ones out And the problem with getting the audio one out now is that a switch pros announced tomorrow nothing we like 75% of this podcast just became irrelevant But that's just the way it is when we're in the midst of breaking news At least we started off the podcast with e3 talk, which we are likely not going to have verified one way or another At the at least at this point tomorrow Um, so shout out to obviously our special guest here Andres restart you can go follow him on uh, twitter and on youtube I have links to both of those down in the description if you guys want to go over there subscribe to him I would really love to see him hit 10,000 subscribers before e3. He's getting close Let's keep pushing it guys. Yeah, just like I want to get the 70k. Let's get him The 10k let's get him to that next level Uh, 5j doesn't really do much anymore except I guess occasionally come on the podcast when I ask them to So, um, I have links to his stuff as well down below just in case you liked him and in case you My legacy playthroughs and stuff and you never know You know, he might like do some random stream some random day in the future. You never know It is what it is promises. No promises. Uh, and you can follow at emo 87 90 on twitter that is where eric is at so you can check him out Over there. He will read anything you tweet at him. He will not respond to you Oh, wait, wait, you've ever responded? Well, it was breaking news No, I haven't responded to anyone like in a year And I know you've been tweeted a few times because I'm always included in it for some reason Well, because they only know you I just I never said I wouldn't respond. I just Yeah, but yeah, he's not gonna respond Probably not. So, uh, come on, say it. I won't respond. I just don't Oh man, um, and shout out to obviously all the people who super chat and I thank you so much That I'm not going to go back through all of those because not all of them are actually listed here But thank you. Uh, and thank you to everyone for just tuning in. I hope you had a great time Uh, be sure to go check out what uh, andres resource got his podcast coming up on every single sunday night Since you have to go check that out. He's actually tried to get me on a number of times. It's just really hard for me to make sundays Um, I'm sure I could let him know any sunday. I'm available and he'll probably make room Don't kick him out. What about the the pre sunday a pre e3 nintendo e3 direct sunday You mean this upcoming one Is that is it really this is it that's soon already? Yes, it is. Yeah e3 is like 10 days away Like yeah, but this upcoming weekend is the weekend before well the 13th technically Is the sunday before nintendo's direct. Yeah. Oh, okay. So I could tell you this. Um On uh, that sunday, I'm literally the 12 13 14 15 my whole life is just e3 so I probably can make some some time for it as long as e3 is done by then God knows when it's even going to be done. But if it's done by then Probably probably make some time to squeeze that one out. I feel like either the sixth 13th or 20th One of those three sundays we might be able to make it work So what he's saying is I need to tell julia to buzz off for a whole night because I don't I don't want my weekends I don't want her for weekends off and be like, yeah, sorry. I got to go spend the evening with andres restart We've got a we got a lovely candle at dinner planned. Um, you know, yeah You want to make it? I'm gonna make him my favorite my famous tacos even got that candle over there in the shot glass That's right. I I oh Oh, no, you did it now the candle is gonna come on on set when I'm with him I'm gonna light up the triforce of candles Let your whole audience stare and let them know this one's for andres This one's for andres last week and this one's for andres next week since he's trying to get me on three sundays in a row Let me just let me light it up So, yeah, I I know I've I've also been talking about my fiance that said I wanted to try to It'd be cool if I could try to like make a once a month on yours It'd be really nice to get on because you've been on mine a number of times Um, and I have a good time and I know you have other guests on yours as well That'd be good to get some additional conversations. It's nice to be on other people's channels and get in front of a new audience too, you know I know we have some crossover, but not everybody When I check out your streams when I have time like there's not there's people here I don't know the hell you guys are I'm looking at my stream right now. There's people. I don't know who the heck any of you guys are So thank you for for tuning in. Um, I wish I knew every single one of you I wish I had the time to get to know every single one of you Um All right. Well, that's going to do it Thank you so much for tuning into episode 11 of the nintendo prime podcast the audio version is available Whenever I put it up, but also wherever you want to listen to it spotify iTunes anywhere you want to that it's going to be there. I'll try to get it up tomorrow No guarantees because if we have a bunch of breaking switch pro stuff happening tomorrow You know what my day is going to be spent doing breaking the news and attempting to pre-order one. So Um So anyways, thank you guys for tuning in and we'll uh catch you Same time But next week tuesday instead of wednesday Bye