 to be in the flight for pregnant and have a baby in November. To graduate in September. Yeah. Most of us, as soon as I sell those anxieties, I'm like, I wish those anxieties probably never go away, that you just get better at adapting to those anxieties, right? We make pretty impactful changes throughout our life that will, if I'm here being successful with the changes that I've been through, or I'm moving towards success every day that I've had, the effects that are important and that are true, they really tend to feel challenging in the five, 10 years. I know where I want to be. This is when I want to be retired and big bearer. Like, that's probably my five, 10 year plan, right? So I think it's challenging to commit to something that rigid and so forth in advance. But I think you have your own rules are exciting, but again, consumable change, right? Let's plan for those phases really. Thanks for the talk. And I wanted to ask you, this hinges off the last question, which was about having a vision. And it sounds like you tend to keep it fairly general, not too specific. And you made that compelling comment about iterate often, and that being a process. Can you talk a little bit about what that looked like for you? As you went along, I'm assuming your vision shaped or changed in some way, in a dynamic way, and the evaluation helped. That's an awesome, awesome question. And maybe it's hard for me to answer. My overall goal in life is, and even when I was in the Navy, was to help impact the large audience a little bit. So iteration, I mean, it really comes from my professional side of the house. We started, so to be honest, the founding CEO. I wasn't probably the best suited from an aggressive operational standpoint to scale us. So I made a decision that was very impactful to the organization, to myself, to my family, to go maybe somewhere else that I could positively impact the large audience in a positive way. I went back into the agency space. I felt that I could help create stuff on the internet. I thought that was an exciting thing to do. I had my time there. That was impactful for me. Impactful for those around me. I helped a brand. It was great, a lot of people. But then it was time to step back and rethink that. So I think it's hard to pinpoint a specific time for where I'm like, hey, I iterated here because of this, but you'll find those things as you go along, right? You continue moving towards that over and over. So I think that vision, that overall long-term vision is important to what you asked there, though. It's incremental on behind me. How have you dealt with the loss of the chargers? It's a loss of interest. Hello. With that organization, my aunt passed away at 31. Took me to my first game after work when I was like, oh, that's great. So I was like, hey, I spent many years talking to her when I was in the military. That attachment to that team is super meaningful to me. So they could have ended up in Nebraska, I'd probably do that. Any final questions? Just, Doug, I got one. Hey, you talked about early on in your lifestyles that you had. If you stay consistent in the military, leaving a college aside, I had some opportunities that found me because of my technical experience. So web cameras was web-related, and lots of products there. I kept the dialogue with Daniel going at that time in the vision of how do we check websites for the overall issues and those items. As I was working, as I was transitioning back to California, it was cold in Chicago. Kept that dialogue going, right? And the consistency of not staying in question. So I was stationed in Naples, Italy in 2004. I was doing design work, UI stuff, local arts, branding on the side because the Navy pays real well, right? And I'm going, oh, you talked about all of these cool graphics, I want to make a portfolio aside. So I'm making this just terrible HTML and CSS website and I want to get a better way to manage this and use and all this stuff. And I started going through the canon of content management system at the time. WordPress seemed like a way that I could get that launch money here after the fork. And I fell in love with it. I started creating sites at one point and that fell me to the liking of one of the new professional services. Tony and I actually bought it, so Sukuni took off. He started our own small agency for a little while. And that really kind of pulled circle when I left Sukuni for that short bit to the agency space, kind of drove that. I wanted to feel that at a higher scale level. But yeah, the chance to get it right now.