 Welcome to ToffeeTV. We've got the breaking news. The capacity for Bramleymore Dock Stadium has been released. This video is sponsored by One Football. One Football's app makes it easy to keep up to date with transfer new scores and start in one place. To download the One Football, I'll click the link in the description. So Baz, 52,000, the initial build with the ability to grow the stadium to 62,000, which would likely be the end maximum capacity for the stadium. What are your initial thoughts on that? Initial thoughts are a bit disappointing, honestly. If I'm being honest, 52,000 is not the number I add in my own mind. I thought the lowest that would want the ground to be was 55. However, as a kind of caveat to that, if it can be extended, as we grow, then I suppose it's fair enough. There is obviously ways round that capacity that can be done to that, even on day one. It can be extended before, you know, ready to go on day one. But if you're being honest, the initial bounce of 52,000 you can't have to go a bit disappointing. Yeah, I mean, we could get round, I suppose, with if rail seating becomes legal, there's potential for maybe, I don't know, four, five, six thousand maybe. Well, that's what, if it becomes, if the law changes slightly, currently rail seating is one-to-one, Celtic have got one-to-one within the UK, obviously Dortmund have got one-to-eight, so 1.8 on the rail seating, so they're 10,000 seats, go to 18,000. So if the law changed slightly, so everything could get at, I don't know, 1.1, 1.5, whatever. Say 1.5, that means that our capacity immediately shoots up to 57,000 over one stand, and that could be on day one. So the stadium will be future proof, so to speak, so that's one way round it. Yeah, well, what do you think the club are basing this on? Because obviously we all want, I thought the minimum would be 55,000, I must admit, with the potential. Well, you never knew what the potential was, and I think a lot of people thought it's got to be 60,000 on day one, because we've heard there isn't much room to grow the stadium. I find it interesting that there is a caveat, it could go to 62,000, and that's 62,000, and I think just by seats, that's not rail seating, is it? I think it'll be rail seating. So it's got the potential to go to 62,000 with rail seating? Yeah. See, that makes it, see, that's a bit worrying for me, that information. That's what I think, that's what, you know, reading the thing, that's what it's indicating, that there'll be two stands, there's possibility for Alton to stand. So that is true, not 100% know whether it is true, but if that is true, there needs to be a change in the law then for us to get it up. But there will be a change in the law won't there? Day one, if nothing changes, now day one it's 52,000, right? Currently we're playing at 39,500, so it's more than what we've got in an iconic stadium. I'm trying to make the best of it, because I thought it, I honestly, I thought it wouldn't go be less than that. But Evan are basing this on the fact that we currently have 32,000 season ticket holders, 10,000 on a waiting list, 3,000 away fans. That's 45,000, yeah. And then we've got, well, we've got two, but then there's room for 7,000 fans. Now what you'd have to look at, I suppose, how Evan will have done it, and how a lot of these things are born out is they'd say, does 32,000 Evan fans go to game? She's ticket holders. There's 10,000 on a waiting list. So with Evan, with the 3,000, that's 35,000. So at the moment of Godduson you can get another 4,500 people in. So 4,500 off that 10,000 waiting list may be going to Godduson regularly. All right, so that leaves 5,500 off a waiting list left at 39,000. Yeah. So say all of the waiting list take up their thing, which won't happen because it doesn't happen anyway, but say 80% took it, that would take us to 40,000 season ticket holders with what we currently have. 3,000 of those are away fans, that's 43,000. So that's still leaving 9,000 seats. So say the other, say we took all of the waiting list, you're still talking about another 7,000 fans after the day you won. I suppose, I find it interesting how space leaped from, they were about 36, at White Art Lane, and they're going up to 62. But at Wembley they've had 80. No I know, I know, but they didn't play at Wembley before they decided to build the new ground. So I just wonder how they've looked at it. I think they've looked at it in a more ambitious way, if you ask me, as far as I'm concerned. I mean, the other thing as well is obviously the constraint of the site, I suppose, and there's not, you see Tottenham it was probably very different, right, because this stadium's literally White Art Lane, it's literally the corner of White Art Lane. So that area has had traffic going into it and fans disbasing, coming through it and disbasing for years, for the, since the year. We're going to an area where it hasn't had any of that fuffal. So maybe it's trying to satisfy the planners as well to go, we're putting this, it's a heritage site or UNESCO site, we're putting this new stadium on it, we're also putting 50,000 plus people there every other week, which we haven't done before. I don't know, maybe that comes into play, I'm not sure. The one thing I've taken that kind of will temper the disappointment very slightly is that rail seating thing, if that can increase the capacity. Oh listen, if rail seating comes in and they've been taken on board, which they clearly seem like they are, they're taking it on board, if that happens and a push it, I think, I'll be honest, I think a lot of people would be satisfied with that. It's just that thing of, it's the initial, if it doesn't, and I just wonder, I wonder whether we'll, you know. But maybe, right, we're just having it now, right, maybe by the time the planning permission comes in, maybe we'll add a little bit more rail seating or maybe one of the stands, and Dan might still be able to tell people this better, maybe one of the stands might be able to be redone anyway, that it doesn't rely on rail seating, you know what I mean? This is just the initial thought. It's literally just broken, hasn't it? If they come out and say in the future, you know, we can get it, if we can get a 62 without rail seating, I think that that'll be the one for me. Yeah, I don't think we can. But I think what it'll be is, I think what you might find is, and I don't know this, you may find that we might get to something like 58 without rail seating or 57, and then the rail seating takes it to 62. But then that's the case, I don't mind that. I don't mind that. But if we can't get higher than 52 without rail seating, then that would be just rubbish as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, I totally agree. But listen, I haven't put it out there. Yeah, it's an interesting one that they've put the attendance out before they've put pictures of the stadium out there. We've had this before. No, but I think people, I honestly feel like people would be more, more wooed by seeing images first, but haven't decided to do their way in. And listen, they'll take the shtich and listen, that's just what they're going to have to do. I think when we did this a while ago, I think the minute you put the capacity out it's out there, people are going to argue, moan about about the time the pictures come. Everyone's going to be made up with the pictures. If you put the pictures out, and then went, by the way, that's actually only 52,000. I think you're taking the hit on it. I think everyone's trying to go, look, it's us now. And then we're going to climb, we'll be back with how good it looks for them myself. But at least there's no, there was never going to be a right or wrong way to do it, unless someone, we come out and went, it's 70,000. And then we probably would have got people moaning and telling us we won't fill it. But we need to listen, we'll do a proper video when we've got all the facts and figures and everything in front of us. This is just our initial thought. Let us know your thoughts. Are you disappointed? Are you realistic about the whole thing and feel like this is the best place to start? Listen, if we can get it to 62 at rail start. Can I ask you before you finish it very quickly, if it was a simple choice of staying at Godderson? We can't stay at Godderson. No, I'm asking you, right? Or having a shiny new stadium on the next of the Mays. We're 52,000. We're 52,000. What would you go for? I'd go with the new stadium because I don't think we should stay at Godderson. We quite clearly can't. But there will be people out there who'll just say, why don't we just stay at Godderson? But we can't because we just can't compete by staying at Godderson Park. But yeah, let us know. I mean, as I said, I think a lot of, I think rail seating, I think what this does to us, if we can be one of the people who actually start putting pressure on the Premier League and on the government to change the laws, because we need to, then that's on us then as a football club. And I hope we do. It's in this country anyway. No, I know. It's not in the Premier League. But yeah, you're right. So I think we need rail seating anyway for the atmosphere in the ground anyway. And if the law changed tomorrow, I'd have it in Godderson tomorrow for a couple of seasons. I would have no problem with that. So anyway, let us know your thoughts. The news just dropped. What's your initial thoughts on this? Let us know in the comments. And as I said, are you realistic? Are you disappointed? Are you absolutely fuming by this news? Let it sink in. Let it digest it. And then, you know, let us know in the comments. Thanks for watching. We'll see you later.